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Post by imbondz on Feb 9, 2015 11:45:08 GMT -5
It's ludicrous to ask a woman in her 30s to edit her work for teenagers. She didn't audition to be a schoolteacher. It's just my opinion. I don't think it's ludicrous when you have as much power and influence as she does, and seems to market directly to young girls, to expect some level of self respect in her lyrics and performances. She knows exactly what she's doing.
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Post by Rican@ on Feb 9, 2015 11:49:20 GMT -5
Kanye is a bully. Just because he thinks his "friend" had better materials, doesn't make it so. I really wish they would stop inviting him to these award shows because his ego needs some tuning.
I think the Grammy did great with spreading the wealth between the top nominees. It was obvious Sam Smith will have his night and I don't think the Grammy wanted him to share that with Beyonce (if she would have won AOTY), I can respect that.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 9, 2015 11:57:27 GMT -5
It's ludicrous to ask a woman in her 30s to edit her work for teenagers. She didn't audition to be a schoolteacher. It's just my opinion. I don't think it's ludicrous when you have as much power and influence as she does, and seems to market directly to young girls, to expect some level of self respect in her lyrics and performances. She knows exactly what she's doing. Imagine if all popular artists, performers and even actors, were expected to cater their material with children in mind. Wouldn't be able to call it entertainment anymore because it would be so dull. On the bright side, I'd save so much money from not having to buy music or movies anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 11:58:26 GMT -5
I love Bey, but if I were in her position, I'd be embarrassed and humiliated that a "friend" was speaking on my behalf just to talk trash about another artist.
He needs to stop dragging Bey into his rants, Jesus.
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Post by newpower on Feb 9, 2015 11:58:35 GMT -5
Beck has offered his thoughts on the whole situation in an interview with Us Weekly. Turns out he was actually kind of stoked about the whole thing. "I was just so excited he was coming up. He deserves to be on stage as much as anybody," Beck told Us Weekly. "How many great records has he put out in the last five years, right?β Asked about West's comments that BeyoncΓ© should have won, Beck replied, βAbsolutely,β adding, "I thought she was going to win. Come on, she's BeyoncΓ©!β
That's class. Not that caricature of artist named Mr. Kardashian
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Post by surfy on Feb 9, 2015 12:00:51 GMT -5
I think it's ridiculous am that a MARRIED woman of all people is being criticized for embracing her sexuality, and then is shamed for singing a gospel sog. Ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 12:01:50 GMT -5
The Grammys are becoming just like the Oscars when it comes to the winners. So predictable the last few years. I think going in everyone knew Sam Smith was going to win all these awards. Once again, Taylor Swift coming out with 0 wins at the Grammys for the 2nd year in a row. Lackluster Award show. It seems the Grammys only nominate the hit songs for the TV ratings. Did you say that when Taylor was sweeping? lmfao.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 9, 2015 12:22:27 GMT -5
It's just my opinion. I don't think it's ludicrous when you have as much power and influence as she does, and seems to market directly to young girls, to expect some level of self respect in her lyrics and performances. She knows exactly what she's doing. Imagine if all popular artists, performers and even actors, were expected to cater their material with children in mind. Wouldn't be able to call it entertainment anymore because it would be so dull. On the bright side, I'd save so much money from not having to buy music or movies anymore. But kids can't get into R rated movies. In my opinion, If you market to kids then yes you should cater your 'art' with them in mind.
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Post by Jay D83 on Feb 9, 2015 12:24:58 GMT -5
I think it's ridiculous am that a MARRIED woman of all people is being criticized for embracing her sexuality, and then is shamed for singing a gospel sog. Ridiculous. Exactly. I've been a fan of hers since 1999 when I was 16 years old. I'm 31 now. If she was catering to kids NOW, she wouldn't have to worry about me buying her shit. She's grown up and so has her fanbase. If parents have a problem with their kids listening to Beyonce, then they shouldn't let them. /END OF.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 9, 2015 12:25:19 GMT -5
I think it's ridiculous am that a MARRIED woman of all people is being criticized for embracing her sexuality, and then is shamed for singing a gospel sog. Ridiculous. We have different ideas of what embracing sexuality means. Singing about going down on a guy in a limo and dancing w stripper polls is not embracing sexuality. But we can agree to disagree.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 9, 2015 12:25:48 GMT -5
Imagine if all popular artists, performers and even actors, were expected to cater their material with children in mind. Wouldn't be able to call it entertainment anymore because it would be so dull. On the bright side, I'd save so much money from not having to buy music or movies anymore. But kids can't get into R rated movies. In my opinion, If you market to kids then yes you should cater your 'art' with them in mind. Funny. The BeyoncΓ© cd I bought had a parental warning on the cover.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 9, 2015 12:27:02 GMT -5
Good. It should.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 9, 2015 12:28:04 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong with who her target market is then. I thought young teen girls were.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 9, 2015 12:28:26 GMT -5
Imagine if all popular artists, performers and even actors, were expected to cater their material with children in mind. Wouldn't be able to call it entertainment anymore because it would be so dull. On the bright side, I'd save so much money from not having to buy music or movies anymore. But kids can't get into R rated movies. In my opinion, If you market to kids then yes you should cater your 'art' with them in mind. When has Beyonce been peddling Kidz Bop versions of songs?! My First Time from her debut album is basically about losing her virginity, Kitty Kat on B'Day is a PUSSY anthem, Ego is a full on sexual innuendo from the first line to the last on IA...SF, Dance For You on 4 is about being a stripper for your man, and now she just said to hell with it I'll fuck you anywhere Mr. Carter.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 9, 2015 12:28:30 GMT -5
I think it's ridiculous am that a MARRIED woman of all people is being criticized for embracing her sexuality, and then is shamed for singing a gospel sog. Ridiculous. We have different ideas of what embracing sexuality means. Singing about going down on a guy in a limo and dancing w stripper polls is not embracing sexuality. But we can agree to disagree. Singing about giving head is no different than talking about it, which is done in PG movies sometimes. Simply put, if a child or teenager knows what the reference is already, the 'damage' has already been done. This is a case of displaced blame and you're using BeyoncΓ© as your scapegoat.
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Post by Rican@ on Feb 9, 2015 12:29:56 GMT -5
Imagine if all popular artists, performers and even actors, were expected to cater their material with children in mind. Wouldn't be able to call it entertainment anymore because it would be so dull. On the bright side, I'd save so much money from not having to buy music or movies anymore. But kids can't get into R rated movies. In my opinion, If you market to kids then yes you should cater your 'art' with them in mind. I see your point. I think what is lacking in this generation that there isn't any filter anymore. People (and kids) can easily be expose to anything these days. So I can understand why some people will throw their hands up with some Pop artists because no matter how we can try to play that it is the parents' responsibility, kids will see the "cool" trends from these stars. It is unfortunate that it has become tough for parents to scale these kids from inappropriate things.
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Post by Jay D83 on Feb 9, 2015 12:30:38 GMT -5
But kids can't get into R rated movies. In my opinion, If you market to kids then yes you should cater your 'art' with them in mind. When has Beyonce been peddling Kidz Bop versions of songs?! My First Time from her debut album is basically about losing her virginity, Kitty Kat on B'Day is a PUSSY anthem, Ego is a full on sexual innuendo from the first line to the last on IA...SF, Dance For You on 4 is about being a stripper for your man, and now she just said to hell with it I'll f**k you anywhere Mr. Carter. Exactly. She was practically dancing in a glass full of cum in the Naughty Girl video. BOOTYLICIOUS? come on now. Her music was NEVER *for* kids.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 9, 2015 12:33:43 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong with who her target market is then. I thought young teen girls were. Definitely 16+, which isn't an inappropriate age to know what oral sex is. If your 17 year old daughter is forbidden from hearing sex references in pop music, I guess that's your propagative as a parent. I'd say I'll see you in church Sunday but I wouldn't let my kids near that place. That's more inappropriate for kids than any BeyoncΓ© cd.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 9, 2015 12:37:02 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong with who her target market is then. I thought young teen girls were. Definitely 16+, which isn't an inappropriate age to know what oral sex is. If your 17 year old daughter is forbidden from hearing sex references in pop music, I guess that's your propagative as a parent. I'd say I'll see you in church Sunday but I wouldn't let my kids near that place. That's more inappropriate for kids than any BeyoncΓ© cd. So from that comment you should be upset BeyoncΓ© sang a gospel song last night. This is my last comment. I guess I have issues with someone who sings about all of that then sings a gospel song at the Grammys. Seems very disingenuous to me. Whether or not she markets to young teen girls I am not certain. If she does, then yes shame on her. If not, then have at it.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 9, 2015 12:38:35 GMT -5
Definitely 16+, which isn't an inappropriate age to know what oral sex is. If your 17 year old daughter is forbidden from hearing sex references in pop music, I guess that's your propagative as a parent. I'd say I'll see you in church Sunday but I wouldn't let my kids near that place. That's more inappropriate for kids than any BeyoncΓ© cd. So from that comment you should be upset BeyoncΓ© sang a gospel song last night. This is my last comment. I guess I have issues with someone who sings about all of that then sings a gospel song at the Grammys. Seems very disingenuous to me. Whether or not she markets to young teen girls I am not certain. If she does, then yes shame on her. If not, then have at it. You don't know what the congregation does in their spare time so you can't judge her for that.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 9, 2015 12:39:22 GMT -5
So it's not true that the freakiest sex is done by religious folk? They're not even allowed to talk about? I don't get what you're saying regarding BeyoncΓ© and gospel music.
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Post by surfy on Feb 9, 2015 12:42:08 GMT -5
So what you're saying is a married woman can't talk about her sex life without being deemed unholy and slutty. Right? Okay...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 12:46:55 GMT -5
Seriously, people need to stop propping celebrities as role models, and instead raise their children how they want them to act.
BeyoncΓ© is a grown-ass woman who has used her sexuality to market herself from the start, and she's not going to stop because of displaced blame.
Any parent who thinks BeyoncΓ© has a responsibility to be a role model needs to realize she's an adult woman singing about topics that aren't for children, anyway.
Parents always seem to think their kid will be damaged for life when their kids discover something violent or inappropriate, and 99% end up perfectly fine.
if every artist had a responsibility to market to children, this world would be much worse off.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 12:59:56 GMT -5
Lol people coming at Beyonce for all the wrong reasons!
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Post by BDGeek on Feb 9, 2015 13:05:01 GMT -5
So while I love Sia, "Chandelier," Kristen Wiig, etc., I can't help but be somewhat baffled by her choices. For someone who doesn't want to be famous, she sure attaches her name to a lot of famous people...
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Post by newpower on Feb 9, 2015 13:16:02 GMT -5
For some reason it's OK for men to be overtly sexual and religious at the same time. Example: R. Kelly (many of his albums contain religious songs). Not so much for women... and that's a shame.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 9, 2015 13:35:46 GMT -5
For some reason it's OK for men to be overtly sexual and religious at the same time. Example: R. Kelly (many of his albums contain religious songs). Not so much for women... and that's a shame. Hell he did a full on gospel-tinged album with Happy People/U Saved Me. This is the same Robert Kelly that had Fiesta with, "Yeah she with me on the low, getting high off the dro, with her knees on the floor, Fiesta!" and closed the album with, "I can feel Heaven, won't you come and set me free."
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 9, 2015 14:34:16 GMT -5
Ratings were down from last year, with a preliminary 8.5 in the Adults 18-49 demo, and 25.3 million overall viewers. The peak half hour was 8:30-9 p.m., with an initial 9.4 in the 18-49 demo, and 28.55 million overall viewers. I'm shocked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 14:47:20 GMT -5
M was smart to perform during peak time
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Post by Mic Technique on Feb 9, 2015 14:47:25 GMT -5
Kanye sounded like a Christina Aguilera fan when her first week sales reports come in during the post-show interview. "Respect artistry!" I mean, if we're comparing artistsβas it pertains to what is probably Kanye and others' bullshit notion of "artistry"βit only seems right to acknowledge the difference between a single person's creative output, and a corporate team combining forces to make an imminently consumable product. But I guess that's a boring distinction to make nowadays.
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