Billboard Hot 100 : 09/06/2014

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A bunch of #1's in the mid 70's fell right out of the top 10.

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Aug 23, 2014 13:08:27 GMT -5 @gagalicious said:

A bunch of #1's in the mid 70's fell right out of the top 10.

Lol you and your llamas
and thanks, but do you know happen to know the exact record by any chance?

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Aug 23, 2014 13:11:39 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Aug 23, 2014 13:08:27 GMT -5 @gagalicious said:

A bunch of #1's in the mid 70's fell right out of the top 10.

Lol you and your llamas
and thanks, but do you know happen to know the exact record by any chance?

I believe it's "Then Came You" by Dionne Warwick & Spinners (1-15)

[Gary]

Biggest drop from number one
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1-15 -Billy Preston— "Nothing from Nothing" (October 26, 1974)
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1-15 -Dionne Warwickeand The Spinners— " Then Came You"(November 2, 1974)
•
1-12 -Simon and Garfunkel— " The Sound of Silence" (January 29,1966)
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1-12 -Barry White— "Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe"(September 28, 1974)
•
1-12 -Andy Kim— "Rock Me Gently" (October 5, 1974)
•
1-12 -Stevie Wonder— " You Haven't Done Nothin'" (November 9,1974)
•
1-12 -Bachman-Turner Overdrive— " You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"(November 16, 1974)
•
1-12 - John Lennon— "Whatever Gets You thru the Night"(November 23, 1974)
•
1-11 -Diana Ross— " Theme from
Mahogany
(Do You Know Where You're Going To)" (January 31, 1976)

[Clauss]

Almost all of them in 1974.. :o

[Gary]

And all within a few weeks of each other too. More to do with issues behind how the chart was compiled in late 1974 than any song actually losing popularity that quickly

[renfield75]

Aug 23, 2014 14:03:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

And all within a few weeks of each other too. More to do with issues behind how the chart was compiled in late 1974 than any song actually losing popularity that quickly

Yes, as you can see there were 5 consecutive weeks in late 1974 where the #1 song plunged out of the top ten the following week. The charts were re-calibrated November 30, 1974, and "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" rebounded 34-8 (after dropping 1-12 two weeks earlier).

[Enigma.]

Wow this is interesting piece of info, thanks

[Au$tin]

Aug 23, 2014 13:03:33 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Aug 22, 2014 12:47:42 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

This is why I'm not too keen on the YouTube/Vevo streaming methodology because a lot of people just watched the video to look at Nicki's ass and not for the song but I'm not trying to start the rant again...

A lot of people just watched the Taylor video to see her make a fool or herself and listened to song to hear how awful it was. Doesn't mean they like it. What's the difference? If you don't want to start the rant again, don't.

I would like to point out, though, that Nicki's ass is part of what makes "Anaconda" and Taylor's personality makes "Shake It Off," so they both relate to their songs, so I'm all for that counting as streaming points. It's not like those random videos the past year have brought us.

[Daniel Collins]

2-day update. Mediabase (8/22/14) Same as the one posted by Kris in page 1. Sorry!

1. SAM SMITH – Stay With Me: 218.231 (- 2.337)
2. MAGIC! – Rude: 196.842 (- 2.834)
3. NICO & VINZ – Am I Wrong: 181.819 (- 2.793)
4. DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 132.523 (- 3.041)
5. CHARLI XCX – Boom Clap: 121.716 (+ 3.275) ▲
6. MAROON 5 – Maps: 121.599 (+ 0.706) ▼
7. JEREMIH – Don’t Tell ‘Em f/YG: 97.178 (+ 4.912) ▲
8. ARIANA GRANDE – Problem f/Iggy Azalea: 90.974 (- 5.634) ▼
9. IGGY AZALEA – Fancy: 90.206 (- 3.728) ▼
10. JOHN LEGEND – All Of Me: 84.708 (- 2.162)
11. ARIANA GRANDE – Break Free f/Zedd: 73.295 (+ 1.637) ▲
12. TINASHE – 2 On f/Schoolboy Q: 72.952 (- 0.990) ▼
13. CLEAN BANDIT – Rather Be f/Jess Glynne: 71.993 (+ 2.367)
14. ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Bailando f/D.Bueno/S.Paul/GDZ: 68.976 (+ 1.088) ▲
15. SIA – Chandelier: 68.204 (+ 3.829) ▲
16. DIERKS BENTLEY – Drunk On A Plane: 67.193 (+ 0.383) ▲
17. ONEREPUBLIC – Love Runs Out: 66.750 (- 2.732) ▼
18. TIM MCGRAW F/FAITH HILL – Meanwhile Back At Mama’s: 65.049 (+ 1.962) ▲
19. MEGHAN TRAINOR – All About That Bass: 64.289 (+ 5.637) ▲
20. IGGY AZALEA – Black Widow f/Rita Ora: 64.264 (+ 1.348) ▲


CALVIN HARRIS – Summer: 64.170 (- 4.398)
LADY ANTEBELLUM – Bartender: 63.723 (+ 0.871)
DEMI LOVATO – Really Don’t Care f/Cher Lloyd: 63.593 (- 0.298)
COLDPLAY – A Sky Full Of Stars: 61.854 (+ 2.248)
KENNY CHESNEY – American Kids: 59.036 (+ 1.801)
TAYLOR SWIFT – Shake It Off: 56.835 (+ 22.413)
JESSIE J/A. GRANDE/N. MINAJ – Bang Bang: 55.890 (+ 1.139)
SCHOOLBOY Q – Studio f/BJ The Chicago Kid: 54.265 (+ 1.130)
COLE SWINDELL – Hope You Get Lonely Tonight: 49.899 (+ 1.465)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Dirt: 46.796 (+ 1.068)
ECHOSMITH – Cool Kids: 37.428 (+ 1.506)
JASON ALDEAN – Burnin’ It Down: 36.212 (+ 0.695)
M. LAMBERT & C. UNDERWOOD – Somethin’ Bad: 36.104 (+ 0.571)
T.I. – No Mediocre f/Iggy Azalea: 35.897 (+ 2.005)
KIESZA – Hideaway: 31.488 (+ 1.407)
CHRIS BROWN – New Flame f/Rick Ross: 29.667 (+ 1.733)
ED SHEERAN – Don’t: 28.185 (+ 1.384)
LITTLE BIG TOWN – Day Drinking: 26.888 (+ 1.171)
NICKI MINAJ – Anaconda : 24.799 (+ 2.250)
TOVE LO – Habits (Stay High): 24.782 (+ 1.421)
DRAKE – 0 To 100/The Catch Up: 23.619 (+ 1.378)
TRAIN – Angel In Blue Jeans: 23.353 (- 0.094)
KATY PERRY – This Is How We Do: 21.806 (+ 1.761)
5 SECONDS OF SUMMER – Amnesia: 19.335 (+ 0.237)
BLAKE SHELTON – Neon Light: 16.655
BEYONCE – Flawless: 14.982 (+ 0.811)
VANCE JOY – Riptide: 14.462 (+ 0.155)
MARY LAMBERT – Secrets: 12.354 (+ 0.497)
PITBULL – Fireball f/John Ryan: 11.942 (+ 0.371)
HOZIER – Take Me To Church: 7.572 (+ 0.221)
BASTILLE – Flaws: 3.850 (+ 0.132)
NICKELBACK – Edge Of A Revolution: 1.830 (+ 0.779)
JASON DERULO – Trumpets: 1.718 (+ 0.520)

[imbondz]

Aug 23, 2014 16:27:01 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Aug 23, 2014 13:03:33 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

A lot of people just watched the Taylor video to see her make a fool or herself and listened to song to hear how awful it was. Doesn't mean they like it. What's the difference? If you don't want to start the rant again, don't.

I would like to point out, though, that Nicki's ass is part of what makes "Anaconda" and Taylor's personality makes "Shake It Off," so they both relate to their songs, so I'm all for that counting as streaming points. It's not like those random videos the past year have brought us.

Her ass relates to the song? Huh? k no need to reply I'll just disagree.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

So you didn't listen to it I guess. Fair enough

[josh]

2-day update:

1. SAM SMITH – Stay With Me: 215.392 (- 2.839)
2. MAGIC! – Rude: 193.210 (- 3.632)
3. NICO & VINZ – Am I Wrong: 180.212 (- 1.607)
4. DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 127.898 (- 4.625)
5. CHARLI XCX – Boom Clap: 124.496 (+ 2.780)
6. MAROON 5 – Maps: 122.090 (+ 0.491)
7. JEREMIH – Don’t Tell ‘Em f/YG: 100.799 (+ 3.621)
8. ARIANA GRANDE – Problem f/Iggy Azalea: 85.770 (- 5.204)
9. IGGY AZALEA – Fancy: 85.210 (- 4.996)
10. JOHN LEGEND – All Of Me: 83.208 (- 1.500)
11. TAYLOR SWIFT – Shake It Off: 81.422 (+ 24.587) ▲
12. ARIANA GRANDE – Break Free f/Zedd: 74.992 (+ 1.697) ▼
13. CLEAN BANDIT – Rather Be f/Jess Glynne: 74.342 (+ 2.349)
14. SIA – Chandelier: 71.722 (+ 3.518) ▲
15. TINASHE – 2 On f/Schoolboy Q: 71.324 (- 1.628) ▼
16. ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Bailando f/D.Bueno/S.Paul/GDZ: 70.443 (+ 1.467) ▼
17. DIERKS BENTLEY – Drunk On A Plane: 67.199 (+ 0.006) ▼
18. TIM MCGRAW F/FAITH HILL – Meanwhile Back At Mama’s: 66.823 (+ 1.774)
19. MEGHAN TRAINOR – All About That Bass: 69.776 (+ 5.487)
20. IGGY AZALEA – Black Widow f/Rita Ora: 66.762 (+ 2.498)

ONEREPUBLIC – Love Runs Out: 64.620 (- 2.130)
LADY ANTEBELLUM – Bartender: 64.523 (+ 0.800)
COLDPLAY – A Sky Full Of Stars: 63.868 (+ 2.014)
KENNY CHESNEY – American Kids: 60.730 (+ 1.694)
JESSIE J/A. GRANDE/N. MINAJ – Bang Bang: 58.324 (+ 2.434)
SCHOOLBOY Q – Studio f/BJ The Chicago Kid: 54.746 (+ 0.481)
COLE SWINDELL – Hope You Get Lonely Tonight: 51.703 (+ 1.804)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Dirt: 47.696 (+ 0.900)
ECHOSMITH – Cool Kids: 38.978 (+ 1.550)
JASON ALDEAN – Burnin’ It Down: 37.869 (+ 1.657)
T.I. – No Mediocre f/Iggy Azalea: 36.886 (+ 0.989)
M. LAMBERT & C. UNDERWOOD – Somethin’ Bad: 36.705 (+ 0.601)
KIESZA – Hideaway: 32.695 (+ 1.207)
CHRIS BROWN – New Flame f/Rick Ross: 30.865 (+ 1.198)
ED SHEERAN – Don’t: 29.549 (+ 1.364)
LITTLE BIG TOWN – Day Drinking: 27.774 (+ 0.886)
NICKI MINAJ – Anaconda : 26.970 (+ 2.171)
TOVE LO – Habits (Stay High): 26.609 (+ 1.827)
DRAKE – 0 To 100/The Catch Up: 24.518 (+ 0.899)
TRAIN – Angel In Blue Jeans: 23.570 (+ 0.217)
KATY PERRY – This Is How We Do: 23.062 (+ 1.256)
BLAKE SHELTON – Neon Light: 21.927 (+ 5.272)
5 SECONDS OF SUMMER – Amnesia: 19.777 (+ 0.442)
BEYONCE – Flawless: 15.928 (+ 0.946)
VANCE JOY – Riptide: 14.481 (+ 0.019)
PITBULL – Fireball f/John Ryan: 12.831 (+ 0.889)
MARY LAMBERT – Secrets: 12.598 (+ 0.244)
HOZIER – Take Me To Church: 7.868 (+ 0.296)
BASTILLE – Flaws: 3.935 (+ 0.085)
NICKELBACK – Edge Of A Revolution: 2.620 (+ 0.790)
JASON DERULO – Trumpets: 2.484 (+ 0.766)
TROYE SIVAN – Happy Little Pill: 0.002

[Kris]

Aug 24, 2014 7:14:52 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

2-day update. Mediabase

Where did you get this from? This is the list I'm seeing on the bcharts page. 

Edit: Tool thats the 22nd update!  

Edit2: omg josh beat me to it by seconds I had all the colours done and everything :( 

[Daniel Collins]

#MESS
HAHAHA

[Kris]

So Taylor will debut at #8 huh. Wonder what the 8th day will drop the AI to.

[josh]

something like this

8th day: +3 million
9th day: -11 million

[Au$tin]

Aug 24, 2014 9:44:30 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Aug 23, 2014 16:27:01 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I would like to point out, though, that Nicki's ass is part of what makes "Anaconda" and Taylor's personality makes "Shake It Off," so they both relate to their songs, so I'm all for that counting as streaming points. It's not like those random videos the past year have brought us.

Her ass relates to the song? Huh? k no need to reply I'll just disagree.

I mean, the song is all about having a fat ass, so...

[Kris]

@markg94 the 3rd person to post that update today  

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Aug 24, 2014 11:00:52 GMT -5 Kris said:

So Taylor will debut at #8 huh. Wonder what the 8th day will drop the AI to.

She debuted at #45 last week no? Anyway that's a pretty massive jump! And like Josh said 8th day update won't be a large negative since it got it's big "debut" in its second day of airplay of 23 million.

[mluv]

Mary Lambert's Secrets is a cute song with that popular female empowerment theme. I hope it continues to grow.

[Deleted]

SIO is an Airplay monster, 10 Million updates a day :O

[85la]

Aug 23, 2014 14:20:08 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Aug 23, 2014 14:03:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

And all within a few weeks of each other too. More to do with issues behind how the chart was compiled in late 1974 than any song actually losing popularity that quickly

Yes, as you can see there were 5 consecutive weeks in late 1974 where the #1 song plunged out of the top ten the following week. The charts were re-calibrated November 30, 1974, and "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" rebounded 34-8 (after dropping 1-12 two weeks earlier).

But does anyone know the specific weakness in the chart methodology that caused the songs to plummet so steeply?

[jebsib]

85la, I know:

There are two reasons.
In those days, radio airplay wasn't monitored by computers, it was based on where the songs fell on all the different Top 40 radio stations' playlists.
These lists were imperfect, and were often based on the Program Director's desires, not specifically what his # 17 song was versus his #3 song.
In those days, multiple singles off hit albums were released every three months, regardless of their predecessor's success.
Thus the speed of the charts (and music / radio culture) was far faster than today.
It would be like once Dark Horse hit #1 on the Hot 100, stations would be satisfied, and in order to keep their audience interested, would drop it and immediately start playing only Birthday.

So, once a song reached #1 on a radio station's playlist, it was frequently dropped or no longer reported the following week, in anticipation of the immediate followup.
It's like the stations no longer cared. Occasionally a song would drop at different times nationally, or sales would lag a bit, thus a softer drop (Or even a 2nd or third week at the top of the Hot 100).

Now, why so dramatic in 1974? Popular theory is that Bill Wardlow, the Hot 100 Chart manger of the 70s was crooked, and fixed the charts for money (like Payola but nationally!).
There are numerous such stories, particularly during the Saturday Night Fever era. Maybe true, maybe not.
But those big drops in 74 - all falling to similar numbers outside the top 10 - always seemed pretty coincidental not to be fixed.

[Deleted]

Aug 24, 2014 17:48:42 GMT -5 jebsib said:

85la, I know:

There are two reasons.
In those days, radio airplay wasn't monitored by computers, it was based on where the songs fell on all the different Top 40 radio stations' playlists.
These lists were imperfect, and were often based on the Program Director's desires, not specifically what his # 17 song was versus his #3 song.
In those days, multiple singles off hit albums were released every three months, regardless of their predecessor's success.
Thus the speed of the charts (and music / radio culture) was far faster than today.
It would be like once Dark Horse hit #1 on the Hot 100, stations would be satisfied, and in order to keep their audience interested, would drop it and immediately start playing only Birthday.

So, once a song reached #1 on a radio station's playlist, it was frequently dropped or no longer reported the following week, in anticipation of the immediate followup.
It's like the stations no longer cared. Occasionally a song would drop at different times nationally, or sales would lag a bit, thus a softer drop (Or even a 2nd or third week at the top of the Hot 100).

Now, why so dramatic in 1974? Popular theory is that Bill Wardlow, the Hot 100 Chart manger of the 70s was crooked, and fixed the charts for money (like Payola but nationally!).
There are numerous such stories, particularly during the Saturday Night Fever era. Maybe true, maybe not.
But those big drops in 74 - all falling to similar numbers outside the top 10 - always seemed pretty coincidental not to be fixed.

Interesting...

[Push The Button]

Ah, Bill Wardlow. The stories I've heard.

[brady47]

Taylor Swift's Shake It Off gives me Florence and the Machine vibes. Loved her MTV performance, she SLAYED!

[brady47]

Even though Chandelier had a slow start, it's having amazing climbs on radio right now. It might outpace Rather Be and Break Free.

[Gary]

Iggy Azalea, Araiana Grande, Chari XCX and Sam Smith have multiple high charting songs on the 8/30 Hot 100

Hot 100 Flashback - January 5, 2005 -  An extreme example of what the digital era and "featurings" do. EIGHT acts had two enties in the top 20 - an all time record

1 Let Me Love You, Mario  
2 1, 2 Step, Ciara Featuring Missy Elliott  
3 Drop It Like It's Hot, Snoop Dogg Featuring Pharrell  
4 Lovers And Friends, Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz Featuring Usher & Ludacris  
5 Soldier, Destiny's Child Featuring T.I. & Lil Wayne  
6 My Boo, Usher And Alicia Keys  
7 Over And Over, Nelly Featuring Tim McGraw  
8 Disco Inferno, 50 Cent  
9 Wonderful, Ja Rule Featuring R. Kelly & Ashanti  
10 Breakaway, Kelly Clarkson  
11 How We Do, The Game Featuring 50 Cent  
12 I Don't Want To Be, Gavin DeGraw  
13 Lose My Breath, Destiny's Child  
14 Only U, Ashanti  
15 Get Back, Ludacris  
16 Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Green Day  
17 She Will Be Loved, Maroon5  
18 Bring Em Out, T.I.  
19 Goodies, Ciara Featuring Petey deleted  
20 Let's Go, Trick Daddy Featuring Lil Jon & Twista  

[markb]

Aug 24, 2014 13:08:17 GMT -5 mluv said:

Mary Lambert's Secrets is a cute song with that popular female empowerment theme. I hope it continues to grow.

I like that song too!