Adam Lambert - "Ghost Town"

[divasummer]

I Love "Ghosttown" however I think the "Original High" is a little more radio friendly.
Is that going to be the next single???

[Albie]

What made this get re-stylized to 'Ghost Town'?

[maine]

Jul 5, 2015 16:55:21 GMT -5 Albie said:

What made this get re-stylized to 'Ghost Town'?

This was always stylized as "Ghost Town". Madonna is the one who has hers condensed to one word for whatever reason.

[KissMyAxe]

Jul 5, 2015 15:53:17 GMT -5 divasummer said:

I Love "Ghosttown" however I think the "Original High" is a little more radio friendly.
Is that going to be the next single???

I really hope so, The Original High is my JAM lately <3

[graffeodl]

PUBLISHED CHARTS

POP:
29 29 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2294 2188 106 9.19

+30 Spins
-8 Bullet
-0.117 Audience

HOT AC:
18 18 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1698 1656 42 7.781

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-7 Bullet
-0.043 Audience

AC:
35 33 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 59 46 13 0.175

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CAN POP:

36 38 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 306 292 14 1.227

+4 Spins
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CAN HAC:

53 42 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 131 93 38 0.829

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Monday update

POP:
29 29 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2326 2193 133 9.254

+32 Spins
+27 Bullet
+0.04 Audience

HAC:
18 18 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1688 1683 5 7.827

-10 Spins
-37 Bullet
+0.046 Audience

AC:
36 33 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 59 48 11 0.165

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CAN POP:
37 37 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 313 292 21 1.24

+7 Spins
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CAN HAC:
50 41 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 133 101 32 0.861

+2 Spins
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[wonderstruck94]

Jul 5, 2015 11:35:37 GMT -5 7am said:

Jul 5, 2015 10:42:32 GMT -5 wonderstruck94 said:

you seem very invested in pushing the idea that Adam and his era are a failure because you keep repeating yourself over and over. 

Hilary's song Sparks was released April 7th, a full two weeks before Ghost Town.  Just because it didn't hit, doesn't mean it wasn't sent. 

what's with this thread recently. when did he say this era was a failure (not to mention Adam himself)? he just thinks Adam's label might get impatient with how GT is doing and jump to the 2nd single that's all. i mean i totally disagree with him (i find GT a brilliant choice for lead single and i'm still waiting to see if it can do more) but i have no problem with his comments. he can dislike GT as a single all right. Love and peace

It's just that he keeps saying the same thing, as if no one read his comments the first time (or second/third/fourth for that matter  ;) ).

I guess it's possible WB might get impatient with GT in the U.S. market but from everything I've read it's doing really well in other countries so that might make them a little more patient to see what happens.

[dragontattoo]

I'd be interested to know what other countries GT is doing well. Is it doing well in sales or radio play?

I don't know if album and single sales are going to merit much of a money push behind the next single.

[graffeodl]

Jul 6, 2015 8:00:06 GMT -5 dragontattoo said:

I'd be interested to know what other countries GT is doing well. Is it doing well in sales or radio play?

I don't know if album and single sales are going to merit much of a money push behind the next single.

Here's a few chart stats
GT is #1 in Finland, #1 in South Africa, #55 Netherlands Album Chart
#10 Netherlands Top 40 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams & Social media)
#11 Netherlands Single Top 100 Ghost Town (Downloads & Streams)
#6 Netherlands iTunes Top 30 Ghost Town (only iTunes)
#7 Netherlands Mega Top 50 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams and downloads all count for 1/3)
#24 ARIA Singles Chart
#69 BB Canadian Hot 100
#52 German Top 100 Singles
#24 World Album Chart (wk2)

[wonderstruck94]

Jul 6, 2015 11:40:44 GMT -5 graffeodl said:

Jul 6, 2015 8:00:06 GMT -5 dragontattoo said:

I'd be interested to know what other countries GT is doing well. Is it doing well in sales or radio play?

I don't know if album and single sales are going to merit much of a money push behind the next single.

Here's a few chart stats
GT is #1 in Finland, #1 in South Africa, #55 Netherlands Album Chart
#10 Netherlands Top 40 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams & Social media)
#11 Netherlands Single Top 100 Ghost Town (Downloads & Streams)
#6 Netherlands iTunes Top 30 Ghost Town (only iTunes)
#7 Netherlands Mega Top 50 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams and downloads all count for 1/3)
#24 ARIA Singles Chart
#69 BB Canadian Hot 100
#52 German Top 100 Singles
#24 World Album Chart (wk2)

Thanks

[wonderstruck94]

Jul 6, 2015 8:00:06 GMT -5 dragontattoo said:

I'd be interested to know what other countries GT is doing well. Is it doing well in sales or radio play?

I don't know if album and single sales are going to merit much of a money push behind the next single.

Other than the video, has there been a big money push for this single?

What does a big money push look like?

[dragontattoo]

I never said there was a big money push for GT. However, as the first single for the album, it did have some push from the label - visits to radio stations, including flights around the country, call-ins to the radio, advertisements on music related sites.

Each single after the the album is released usually gets less and less "push" unless the first single is a mega-hit.

Let's look at a "no money" push. Remember Trespassing - that single was released to radio - it was a good song - but nothing happened.

What does a big money push look like? First there is the hourly deal during the opening week. There are advertisements on radio related sites like: all access, mediabase, fmqb, hitsdailydouble. There are advertisements in BillBoard and other magazines that are directed to radio.

If you watch the charts sometimes you can see a "push". A few years ago, there was an artist who always had hits in the top 10 but the first single off a new album was starting to falter just short of top 10. It was losing spins. Suddenly a few top tier stations that had dropped spins started upping their plays considerably. The single moved up to #9 on the charts. The minute it hit #9, those stations dropped the plays again and the single slid rapidly down the charts. The second single was then introduced and all the advertisements for the second single boasted that the first single had hit top 10.

In the country music section of Pulse, they talk frequently about seeing certain songs get a push to reach a certain level and then the push seems to be dropped.

[suttonplace]

Jul 6, 2015 11:40:44 GMT -5 graffeodl said:

Jul 6, 2015 8:00:06 GMT -5 dragontattoo said:

I'd be interested to know what other countries GT is doing well. Is it doing well in sales or radio play?

I don't know if album and single sales are going to merit much of a money push behind the next single.

Here's a few chart stats
GT is #1 in Finland, #1 in South Africa, #55 Netherlands Album Chart
#10 Netherlands Top 40 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams & Social media)
#11 Netherlands Single Top 100 Ghost Town (Downloads & Streams)
#6 Netherlands iTunes Top 30 Ghost Town (only iTunes)
#7 Netherlands Mega Top 50 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams and downloads all count for 1/3)
#24 ARIA Singles Chart
#69 BB Canadian Hot 100
#52 German Top 100 Singles
#24 World Album Chart (wk2)

Those aren't necessarily peak positions....it was 16/17 on the aria chart a week or so ago

[graffeodl]

Adam just announced on twitter that the Ghost Town Remix EP is going to be released for sale and streaming this Friday so maybe there will be some behind the scenes push to go with that. There is some more radio promo towards the end of July. A Casino show that looks like primarily a radio event as the majority of tickets are through radio givaways and some promo in Miami in conjunction with a gig he is doing down there.

[graffeodl]

Jul 6, 2015 15:44:39 GMT -5 suttonplace said:

Jul 6, 2015 11:40:44 GMT -5 graffeodl said:

Here's a few chart stats
GT is #1 in Finland, #1 in South Africa, #55 Netherlands Album Chart
#10 Netherlands Top 40 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams & Social media)
#11 Netherlands Single Top 100 Ghost Town (Downloads & Streams)
#6 Netherlands iTunes Top 30 Ghost Town (only iTunes)
#7 Netherlands Mega Top 50 Ghost Town (Airplay, streams and downloads all count for 1/3)
#24 ARIA Singles Chart
#69 BB Canadian Hot 100
#52 German Top 100 Singles
#24 World Album Chart (wk2)

Those aren't necessarily peak positions....it was 16/17 on the aria chart a week or so ago

I didn't say they were peak positions they are just the most recent chart stats from a outside the US. The Netherlands and Finland numbers are all going up though from where they were.

Found more info from Finland

Finnish Charts

Ghost Town

Download List
Wk Rank
17/2015 18
18/2015 2
19/2015 4
20/2015 6
21/2015 8
22/2015 15
23/2015 14
24/2015 5
25/2015 2
26/2015 1
27/2015 1

Radio Playlist
wk Rank
17/2015 55
18/2015 34
19/2015 31
20/2015 21
21/2015 26
22/2015 12
23/2015 13
24/2015 10
25/2015 12
26/2015 6

Single (I think this may include radio & streaming)
Wk Rank
25/2015 15
26/2015 13
27/2015 15

[dragontattoo]

But what does that mean in terms of sales? I see ranking - but no sales numbers attached to it. Are the sales sufficient to support a push for future singles?

[graffeodl]

Here's Ghost Town debuting on a European airplay chart.

eurotop44.com/et44.html

There is an About the Chart button you can click to look at the methodology.

[graffeodl]

Jul 6, 2015 15:59:23 GMT -5 dragontattoo said:

But what does that mean in terms of sales? I see ranking - but no sales numbers attached to it. Are the sales sufficient to support a push for future singles?

If you want sales numbers for the US here you go:

Ghost Town released 2015-04-21
Chart
Date Wk TW Sales LW Sales % Total Sales
2015-05-09 1 17,000 17,000
2015-05-16 2 10,500 17,000 -38 27,400
2015-05-23 3 7,200 10,500 -32 34,600
2015-05-30 4 7,200(est) 7,200 +.6 41,800(est)
2015-06-06 5 8,800(est) 7,200(est) +22 50,600(est)
2015-06-13 6 8,400 8,800(est) -5 59,000
2015-06-20 7 9,700 8,400 +16 68,700
2015-06-27 8 13,300 9,700 +37 82,000
2015-07-04 9 24,000 13,300 +45 105,900
2015-07-11 10 20,600 24,000 -14 126,500




By the way I just compile this stuff but I have no idea what it might mean in terms of single support.

and album
US
Chart
Date    Wk TW Sales   LW Sales    %   Total Sales Track Sales    Streaming Total Activity  %
2015-07-04   1  41,800      84SV   ---        41,800     47,400    ---
2015-07-11   2   9,800     41,800  -76.5      51,700      25,200    1,735,300     13,500    -71.5


World
United World Chart
Chart
Date    Wk TW Sales   LW Sales   %   Total Sales

2015-07-04   1   69,000  
2015-07-11   2     24,000     69,000 -65       93,000




Sales outdide US (using rounded #'s)

wk Sales Total Sales %
1 27,000     27,000 --
2 14,000     41,000 -37

[dragontattoo]

Thank you for the numbers. Very cool to see.

[jaex]

I’d love to know what kind of callout scores this has. I found some HAC callout scores, and from what I could tell they looked decent, but I haven’t seen pop callout scores for this yet. I have some hope that they could be pretty good, because on HAC it seems to be much more popular among the younger demographic than the older. Maybe pop radio listeners, who tend to be younger, like it too?

Btw, this is back in the top 100 on iTunes at #98. Maybe not exactly a glorious position, but at least it’s not plummeting down the charts.

[jjose712]

I think it simple doesn't have enough audience to appear on the callout scores for pop.
A good callout scores on pop will probably make this reach at least top 20, bad ones would probably mean radio pulling the plug.

Next single should be radio friendly. Ghost town didn the work of putting Adam back on radio, but in my opinion it's too dance club to be a big hit on radio

[Az Paynter]

POP:
30 29 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2356 2179 177 9.409

+30 Spins
+44 Bullet
+0.155 Audience

HOT AC:
18 18 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1704 1693 11 7.892

+16 Spins
+6 Bullet
+0.065 Audience

[7am]

Jul 7, 2015 5:49:42 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

I think it simple doesn't have enough audience to appear on the callout scores for pop.
A good callout scores on pop will probably make this reach at least top 20, bad ones would probably mean radio pulling the plug.

Next single should be radio friendly. Ghost town didn the work of putting Adam back on radio, but in my opinion it's too dance club to be a big hit on radio

Which songs do you have in mind for the next single?

I got a physical CD and the highlighted songs on the cover are Ghost Town, Another Lonely Night, There I Said It and Rumors.  I would really love it if they go with Rumors.  Didn't like it at first but now I'm addicted. :'(

[ss8]

Not doing anything close to great on radio but, wow, they refuse to let this go lol. Radio def. seems to be totally open to playing him but the music/singles have just been so meh or pretty bad. Cant remember a song in recent memory that has been in such a small little rising bubble (barely going anywhere/floating) but not popping. Have a feeling any day now that's gonna happen. It's been around lingering #31-#29 on pop for several weeks now. This just isn't working and can't see radio or his record company continuing to push this too much longer esp w/ the major decline in second week album sales. 

[jjose712]

Jul 7, 2015 10:46:01 GMT -5 ss8 said:

Not doing anything close to great on radio but, wow, they refuse to let this go lol. Radio def. seems to be totally open to playing him but the music/singles have just been so meh or pretty bad. Cant remember a song in recent memory that has been in such a small little rising bubble (barely going anywhere/floating) but not popping. Have a feeling any day now that's gonna happen. It's been around lingering #31-#29 on pop for several weeks now. This just isn't working and can't see radio or his record company continuing to push this too much longer esp w/ the major decline in second week album sales. 

Frankly, half of the 30-50 part of the chart are behaving the same way, the song it's not an exception at all. The only difference is Ghost town is top 30

By the way, the song is back in the top 100 of itunes

[Q3]

Jul 7, 2015 5:49:42 GMT -5 jjose712 said:

I think it simple doesn't have enough audience to appear on the callout scores for pop.
A good callout scores on pop will probably make this reach at least top 20, bad ones would probably mean radio pulling the plug.

Next single should be radio friendly. Ghost town didn the work of putting Adam back on radio, but in my opinion it's too dance club to be a big hit on radio

For starters, I agree with you GT has done its job and gotten Adam back on pop radio. GT is not done yet, but when the time comes, they have a few choices for single #2 but I hope they go with TOH.

On the callout scores, "Ghost Town" has not reached the 60% familiarity threshold on Top 40 yet. Only songs with at least 60% familiar to qualify for the Mediabase/Critical Mass Media callout report.
GT has only been on the HAC callout report for 2 weeks (6/26/15 and 7/3/15 reports) -- HAC familiarity is up to 68.6% (+3.7%) and numbers look good. HAC Net pos 37%, H burn 5.5%.
If it gets over the familiarity hurdle on Top 40 callout (it should), the numbers are likely to be good since the formats typically results in similar ratings for dance pop songs.

[graffeodl]

POP:
28 28 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2384 2217 167 9.324

+28 Spins
-10 Bullet
-0.085 Audience

HAC:
18 18 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1690 1703 -13 7.843

-14 Spins
-24 Bullet
-0.049 Audience

[wonderstruck94]

Jul 8, 2015 6:16:51 GMT -5 graffeodl said:

POP:
28 28 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2384 2217 167 9.324

+28 Spins
-10 Bullet
-0.085 Audience

HAC:
18 18 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1690 1703 -13 7.843

-14 Spins
-24 Bullet
-0.049 Audience

this song is like a roller coaster ride LOL

[jaex]

#85 on Billboard Hot 100 this week (down from 77).

[graffeodl]

POP:
28 28 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 2444 2246 198 9.444

+60 Spins
+31 Bullet
+0.12 Audience

HAC:
18 18 ADAM LAMBERT Ghost Town 1681 1711 -30 7.935

-9 Spins
+17 Bullet
+0.092 Audience

[jaex]

Nice pop update!

This is up to #90 on iTunes now.