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Post by Gary on Apr 25, 2015 15:25:37 GMT -5
The rapid rise in airplay of See You Again will likely slow its fall from the top and delay the sudden crash Predicting more than a week in advance gets a little tricky, as we saw "out of nowhere" new releases could come in and mess everything up. Predicting what those "out of nowhere" new track are also gets a little tricky. As we have seen a new release by a female pop star doesn't automatically translate to a #1 hit (see recent Rihanna songs for example). In fact the nextt "out of nowhere" hit might not be from a female pop star at all. But at least this time we know what's coming so it's not really out of nowhere at all unless a viral smash pops out similar to Gangnam Style. Fans are anticipating the big releases from Britney/Iggy and Taylor (and we as chart followers are also aware of this), as well as we know that SUAD is on the rise (and is being performed on The Voice which, depending on the timing, could be the deal-breaker). So that's three contenders for dethroning SYA as early as the 5/23 chart. I dread the thought of all three of the, failing as that would mean no competition for SYA and that exploitation will continue to dominate for who knows how much longer...not only is the chart going to be boring to watch, it will be really sad to see how Paul is being used...
I can tell you don't like the song, I won't comment on the "exploitation" thing for now. We as chart followers are aware of new female pop singles. LOL - this is Pulse, that is what this board does. Not all of them hit #1 though.
See You Again charted for 3 weeks before dethroning your song. Did it come out of nowhere or were we not paying attention? We as chart followers should also be aware of the movie schedule and the tendency for hit songs to come from these movies, instead of being blind-sided that a blockbuster movie produced a hit single not sung by Britney or Taylor or whomever. This one goes further with an exploitation (another word for that might be "tribute") song that is resonating with people. We as chart followers know that Shut Up and Dance is on the rise but should also know that See You Again has not peaked yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 15:37:10 GMT -5
I can tell you don't like the song, I won't comment on the "exploitation" thing for now. We as chart followers are aware of new female pop singles. LOL - this is Pulse, that is what this board does. Not all of them hit #1 though. See You Again charted for 3 weeks before dethroning your song. Did it come out of nowhere or were we not paying attention? We as chart followers should also be aware of the movie schedule and the tendency for hit songs to come from these movies, instead of being blind-sided that a blockbuster movie produced a hit single not sung by Britney or Taylor or whomever. This one goes further with an exploitation (another word for that might be "tribute") song that is resonating with people. We as chart followers know that Shut Up and Dance is on the rise but should also know that See You Again has not peaked yet. SYA has definitely peaked in sales and probably streaming, meaning that radio play is the wild card here. I do partially agree with you on the bolded though, in the sense that we (well, I, at least) shouldn't have practically ruled it out considering that it's the lead track off the soundtrack of the blockbuster, but on the other hand We Own It never did make the top 10, hence the skepticism about SYA at the time. I am aware that not every pop diva release debuts at/quickly rises to #1, but it is certainly a possibility. I like SYA a lot as a song, but it's what's behind the song that bugs me and prevents me from enjoying it a lot more...of course the way one perceives the song is purely subjective. But yeah, like you said, we will see what happens on the charts!  |
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Post by Gary on Apr 25, 2015 15:46:41 GMT -5
Technically you are correct. Nowhere to go but down from a 464K opening on sales. Streaming had been around 25M for 2 weeks so you are technically correct there too. The rise at radio will keep those levels high for a while probably.
I agree that it is a possibility that pop diva releases debit quickly and rise to #1 is a possibility. You should also consider that songs not from pop divas are capable of that too. The exploitation tribute song could be around a while or it could suddenly crash in 3 weeks when the pop diva cavalry arrives. We will see.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 15:50:44 GMT -5
Technically you are correct. Nowhere to go but down from a 464K opening on sales. Streaming had been around 25M for 2 weeks so you are technically correct there too. The rise at radio will keep those levels high for a while probably. I agree that it is a possibility that pop diva releases debit quickly and rise to #1 is a possibility. You should also consider that songs not from pop divas are capable of that too. The exploitation tribute song could be around a while or it could suddenly crash in 3 weeks when the pop diva cavalry arrives. We will see. Hence SUAD  |
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Post by Gary on Apr 25, 2015 15:53:40 GMT -5
Technically you are correct. Nowhere to go but down from a 464K opening on sales. Streaming had been around 25M for 2 weeks so you are technically correct there too. The rise at radio will keep those levels high for a while probably. I agree that it is a possibility that pop diva releases debit quickly and rise to #1 is a possibility. You should also consider that songs not from pop divas are capable of that too. The exploitation tribute song could be around a while or it could suddenly crash in 3 weeks when the pop diva cavalry arrives. We will see. Hence SUAD  What? That song has been charting for 13 weeks. That ship has sailed. An early debut and rapid rise to #1 is no longer a possibility. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 16:13:27 GMT -5
Hence SUAD What? That song has been charting for 13 weeks. That ship has sailed. An early debut and rapid rise to #1 is no longer a possibility. Oh I didn't know you were referring to a debut lol. Well there's the possibility of a viral sensation like Gangnam Style too. And I thought SUAD was chatting for 23 weeks lol...typo perhaps I guess speaking of which, if SUAD were to in fact make it to #1 on 5/30 then it would be reaching #1 in its 27th week on the chart, tying it with With Arms Wide Open for the 5th-longest climb to #1  |
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Post by 85la on Apr 25, 2015 16:24:52 GMT -5
RIHANNA - American Oxygen: 2.245 (- 0.530) it's been sent for adds, right??? It's too bad this song isn't doing better. I really like it, thought it could really smash. Although I'm not sure, maybe it hasn't been sent for adds yet. |
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Apr 25, 2015 16:53:09 GMT -5
Do you think Girl Crush can smash on pop radio? I hope so. Is difficult but not impossible. I hate the most of country songs but I love it anyway... If Stay With Me smashed why not? |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 25, 2015 17:15:14 GMT -5
The rapid rise in airplay of See You Again will likely slow its fall from the top and delay the sudden crash Predicting more than a week in advance gets a little tricky, as we saw "out of nowhere" new releases could come in and mess everything up. Predicting what those "out of nowhere" new track are also gets a little tricky. As we have seen a new release by a female pop star doesn't automatically translate to a #1 hit (see recent Rihanna songs for example). In fact the nextt "out of nowhere" hit might not be from a female pop star at all. Im def w/ you. Guess the lesson of possibly the decade or century lol ( so far) is what happened with UF/SYA. As of *right now, I don't see/feel like anything is within striking distance of SYA esp. now that SYA is seeriously starting to smash on radio, still holding up very well w/ sales (even w/ the hype of the movie kinda slowing down) and super strong streaming points. Now, it's becoming a hit due to the song itself more than hype of the movie (which obviously gave it a major advantage/promotion). Again, *multi format radio is def. getting all over it...hard. Yes, in the next few weeks we'll see if it was flash in the pan all hype song vs. true substance. While I think it sounds dated and not all that, it def has that 'sound' the GP loves/continues to buy in droves (esp. w/ radio giving it way more exposure than just the movie). Not at all feeling SUAD is strong enough to come close to toppling SYA. Earned It will be lucky to peak at #2 possibly next week or the week after. It's sales just arent going anywhere (basically stagnant..same way like LMLYD ended up). Gut is telling me the Britney song may be another Rihanna like situation. All hype, zoom up to #1 on iTunes but end up not being very good or having longevity. If that proves correct, SYA has no competition in sight. |
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Post by ss8 on Apr 25, 2015 17:24:37 GMT -5
Oh and lmao at the usual bright in the green gains UF gets over the weekend (only to then fall again on Monday-Fri) lol
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Post by johonmilla on Apr 25, 2015 17:33:48 GMT -5
I think Hey Mama has a chance for #1 or at least top 10. It is #8 in Itunes for a while but is just rising in radio. it also made a huge leap this week on the Hot 100.
Maybe a few more week til top 10...
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 25, 2015 19:54:25 GMT -5
The rapid rise in airplay of See You Again will likely slow its fall from the top and delay the sudden crash Predicting more than a week in advance gets a little tricky, as we saw "out of nowhere" new releases could come in and mess everything up. Predicting what those "out of nowhere" new track are also gets a little tricky. As we have seen a new release by a female pop star doesn't automatically translate to a #1 hit (see recent Rihanna songs for example). In fact the nextt "out of nowhere" hit might not be from a female pop star at all. But at least this time we know what's coming so it's not really out of nowhere at all unless a viral smash pops out similar to Gangnam Style. Fans are anticipating the big releases from Britney/Iggy and Taylor (and we as chart followers are also aware of this), as well as we know that SUAD is on the rise (and is being performed on The Voice which, depending on the timing, could be the deal-breaker). So that's three contenders for dethroning SYA as early as the 5/23 chart. I dread the thought of all three of the, failing as that would mean no competition for SYA and that exploitation will continue to dominate for who knows how much longer...not only is the chart going to be boring to watch, it will be really sad to see how Paul is being used... Lol |
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Post by Gary on Apr 25, 2015 20:32:10 GMT -5
People love "exploitation" songs of celebrities, so this one has a good chance of sticking around awhile. Back in 1997 they "exploited" Princess Di to the point of generating the biggest selling single in history.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 25, 2015 20:37:46 GMT -5
Is there a way for someone to write a song about someone they loved without some people calling it "exploitation?"
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 26, 2015 5:07:00 GMT -5
Is there a way for someone to write a song about someone they loved without some people calling it "exploitation?" Well.... No matter how genuine someone make a song about someone they loved, if it smashed and become a huge success, many will call it exploitation. The only way such songs would be accepted as genuine only if it didn't have any success, especially if it didn't dethrone a song in the verge of breaking a long-standing record ;) |
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Post by imbondz on Apr 26, 2015 8:12:29 GMT -5
Is there a way for someone to write a song about someone they loved without some people calling it "exploitation?" Nightshift by the Commodores and Missing You by Diana Ross (which is such a sad song) were tributes to Marvin Gaye. I'll Be Missing You a tribute to Notorious BIG. I always thought those were genuine. And I never thought Elton Johns tribute to Lady Diana was exploitive. I would assume in SYA situation, producers and/or directors asked for a tribute song. Makes sense to me since its a huge movie franchise. |
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Post by imbondz on Apr 26, 2015 9:18:52 GMT -5
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Post by Gary on Apr 26, 2015 9:41:25 GMT -5
People love "exploitation" songs of celebrities, so this one has a good chance of sticking around awhile. Back in 1997 they "exploited" Princess Di to the point of generating the biggest selling single in history.
This post was written as a joke by the way. This and other tribute songs are wonderful and hits for a reason.
The only reason "See You Again" might be considered "exploitive" in my opinion is not because of the lyrics or who it is about but because some in this thread may feel wronged because it was used in what could appear to some to be a blatant attempt to block Uptown Funk from getting 17 weeks at #1.
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Post by Daniel Collins on Apr 26, 2015 10:21:17 GMT -5
Mediabase 04/26/15
1. THE WEEKND - Earned It: 195.160 (+ 1.689)
2. ELLIE GOULDING - Love Me Like You Do: 179.076 (+ 0.205) ▲
3. MAROON 5 - Sugar: 177.490 (- 1.660) ▼
4. MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 174.740 (- 1.894)
5. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style: 144.310 (- 1.480)
6. NATALIE LA ROSE - Somebody f/Jeremih: 132.618 (- 0.765)
7. ED SHEERAN - Thinking Out Loud: 120.546 (- 0.479)
8. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 117.459 (+ 2.342)
9. ARIANA GRANDE – One Last Time: 103.034 (- 0.693)
10. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 102.343 (+ 0.684)
11. FLO RIDA – GDFR f/ Sage The Gemini: 92.494 (+ 1.149)
12. WIZ KHALIFA - See You Again f/Charlie Puth: 80.042 (+ 4.611) ▲
13. TAYLOR SWIFT - Blank Space: 78.895 (- 0.009) ▼
14. FETTY WAP - Trap Queen: 77.635 (+ 0.778) ▼
15. DIERKS BENTLEY - Say You Do: 73.899 (+ 0.570)
16. LEE BRICE - Drinking Class: 71.665 (+ 0.891) ▲
17. PITBULL - Time Of Our Lives f/Ne-Yo: 70.297 (- 1.629) ▼
18. KEITH URBAN - Raise 'Em Up f/Eric Church: 68.426 (+ 0.617) ▲
19. SAM HUNT – Take Your Time: 67.850 (- 2.077) ▼
20. NICKI MINAJ - Truffle Butter f/Drake...: 67.132 (- 1.414) ▼
TYLER FARR - A Guy Walks Into A Bar: 65.182 (+ 0.668)
NICK JONAS - Chains: 63.547 (- 0.040)
BILLY CURRINGTON - Don't It: 60.844 (- 0.291)
ZEDD - I Want You To Know f/S. Gomez: 57.565 (+ 0.172)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Sippin' On Fire: 56.072 (+ 0.980)
TOVE LO - Talking Body: 52.469 (+ 1.006)
OMARION - Post To Be f/Chris Brown&Jhene: 50.918 (+ 0.978)
SAM SMITH – Lay Me Down: 50.740 (+ 0.101)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Little Toy Guns: 41.217 (+ 0.134)
GEORGE EZRA - Budapest: 40.417 (+ 1.187)
DAVID GUETTA - Hey Mama f/N. Minaj & Afrojack: 38.074 (+ 1.794)
DJ SNAKE & ALUNAGEORGE - You Know You Like It: 36.414 (+ 1.522)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Dear Future Husband: 34.825 (+ 0.543)
RIHANNA - Bitch Better Have My Money: 33.009 (- 0.301)
ECHOSMITH - Bright: 32.699 (+ 0.720)
LITTLE BIG TOWN - Girl Crush: 29.647 (+ 0.689)
FIFTH HARMONY - Worth It f/Kid Ink: 23.233 (+ 0.567)
CIARA - I Bet: 21.634 (+ 0.384)
SKRILLEX & DIPLO - Where Are U Now w/J. Bieber: 12.160 (+ 0.388)
TINASHE - All Hands On Deck: 10.592 (+ 0.312)
PITBULL - Fun f/Chris Brown: 7.463 (+ 0.787)
THOMAS RHETT - Crash And Burn: 6.975 (+ 0.602)
CALVIN HARRIS - Pray To God f/HAIM: 5.828 (+ 0.151)
CARLY RAE JEPSEN - I Really Like You: 5.014 (+ 0.204)
YEARS & YEARS - King: 4.109 (+ 0.038)
ADAM LAMBERT - Ghost Town: 3.891 (+ 0.666)
MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 3.229 (+ 0.224)
JEREMIH F/FLO RIDA - Tonight Belongs To U!: 3.089
RIHANNA - American Oxygen: 2.729 (+ 0.227)
NICKI MINAJ - The Night Is Still Young: 2.605 (+ 0.335)
PANIC! AT THE DISCO - Hallelujah: 2.047 (+ 0.205)
ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 0.403
TAYLOR SWIFT - Bad Blood: 0.196
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Post by Daniel Collins on Apr 26, 2015 10:23:06 GMT -5
See You Again will be #12 in Airplay by the end of the week. |
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Post by Clauss on Apr 26, 2015 10:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 26, 2015 11:30:43 GMT -5
People love "exploitation" songs of celebrities, so this one has a good chance of sticking around awhile. Back in 1997 they "exploited" Princess Di to the point of generating the biggest selling single in history.
This post was written as a joke by the way. This and other tribute songs are wonderful and hits for a reason.
The only reason "See You Again" might be considered "exploitive" in my opinion is not because of the lyrics or who it is about but because some in this thread may feel wronged because it was used in what could appear to some to be a blatant attempt to block Uptown Funk from getting 17 weeks at #1.
How could it be seen as that? |
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Post by allow that on Apr 26, 2015 11:35:44 GMT -5
some in this thread may feel wronged because it was used in what could appear to some to be a blatant attempt to block Uptown Funk from getting 17 weeks at #1. Lmaoooo |
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 26, 2015 11:43:35 GMT -5
Can we please just forget that Uptown Funk exists and move on..
I wonder what Want To Want's me chances of going to #1 are. It'll definitely be in the top 10 this week
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Post by badrobot on Apr 26, 2015 12:30:20 GMT -5
My interest is now lower on the chart - super happy to see Tove Lo and Alunageorge doing well!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:01:41 GMT -5
Come on, SUAD! Keep going at it!
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 26, 2015 13:30:52 GMT -5
Just realised Chasing Cars was in the top 100 on iTunes.. #RIPDerekSheppard
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 15:42:13 GMT -5
I know I'm late with this, but SYA is officially Wiz Khalifa's first multi-week #1.
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Post by Gary on Apr 26, 2015 15:46:52 GMT -5
Also Charlie Puth's :o
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 26, 2015 15:50:08 GMT -5
I still think it should be Charlie Puth feat. Wiz Khalfisawdm. People know this song for the hook, not the rap
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