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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 30, 2015 12:17:57 GMT -5
For example recently I remember people talking about Riptide's chart run and how it was unique. The general public won't care about that since it's quite a specific situation, but it is definitely interesting for us and impressive for the song. Speaking of... 50 42 38 44 Riptide, Vance Joy 30 So I believe it's now the longest-charting song to never crack the Top 20 in Hot 100 history? |
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 30, 2015 12:22:38 GMT -5
A lot of one spot falls this week in the top 50. Earned It, Sugar, Thinking Out Loud, Somebody, One Last Time, Chains, Lay Me Down, Blank Space, Blessings, Shake It Off, I'm Not The Only One, Centuries and I Don't Mind. Idk if this is out of the ordinary, just found it strange lol
Heartbeat Song is holding on quite well on radio (except pop). Gained today lol
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Post by Gary on Apr 30, 2015 12:44:27 GMT -5
For example recently I remember people talking about Riptide's chart run and how it was unique. The general public won't care about that since it's quite a specific situation, but it is definitely interesting for us and impressive for the song. Speaking of... 50 42 38 44 Riptide, Vance Joy 30 So I believe it's now the longest-charting song to never crack the Top 20 in Hot 100 history? It is the longest run in chart history for a song that failed to crack the top 25 2 other 44 week runs inside the top 25 but outside the top 20 Another legit record and official (they all are). Whether it gets published or not falls under, does anyone care? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 13:31:14 GMT -5
Yes Stay With Me is finally out!  I've been waiting for this for so many months now... |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 30, 2015 18:32:32 GMT -5
Uptown Funk's staying power at number 2 on the Hot 100 makes me hope it can at least get back at number 1 for one week to break that tie for second place. Impossible. Only shot UF had was if SYA was all hype and a one week fluke w/ sales. What happened w/ SYA was like lottery odds. Well..in this day/age nothing is really lottery odds anymore lol cause 'something' can just come out of nowhere and go viral or instantly connect w/ the GP in this epic way (SYA) and only get bigger and bigger. Pretty sure w/ the old formula UF still would've lost #1 to SYA simply based on SYAs huge sales. Radio obviously wasn't a factor and streaming still wasn't that great until about week 2 of SYA being #1. Plus, UF was simply declining at *exactly the right time and for weeks was #1 by default. Love the song and wish it got the record but it was a very unusually non competitive time. I def. think we're in a day and age that the 19 year old record is now def. on borrowed time. W/ this new formula it benefits songs to have many, many weeks at #1. Look at how many 10+ week songs we've had just in the past 2-3 years. For those who love turnover, you're kind of screwed lol. or come close! lol Huh? Didn't "SYA" take over #1 in streaming the same week it went to #1 on the Hot 100? |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 30, 2015 18:35:34 GMT -5
A lot of one spot falls this week in the top 50. Earned It, Sugar, Thinking Out Loud, Somebody, One Last Time, Chains, Lay Me Down, Blank Space, Blessings, Shake It Off, I'm Not The Only One, Centuries and I Don't Mind. Idk if this is out of the ordinary, just found it strange lol It's been shocking to me how long songs stay around now that we have streaming data. I always thought radio played songs out, but based on streaming it appears people want to hear songs forever and a day. I usually hear my friends say "I am so sick of this song!" so I am wondering who is still streaming these old as* songs so long after they peaked. |
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Post by Kris on Apr 30, 2015 18:48:37 GMT -5
Speaking of... 50 42 38 44 Riptide, Vance Joy 30 So I believe it's now the longest-charting song to never crack the Top 20 in Hot 100 history? It is the longest run in chart history for a song that failed to crack the top 25 2 other 44 week runs inside the top 25 but outside the top 20 Another legit record and official (they all are). Whether it gets published or not falls under, does anyone care? kind of funny the US charts are, riptide holds at #15 in its 46th wk here in canada |
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Post by godjanny on Apr 30, 2015 22:13:57 GMT -5
A lot of one spot falls this week in the top 50. Earned It, Sugar, Thinking Out Loud, Somebody, One Last Time, Chains, Lay Me Down, Blank Space, Blessings, Shake It Off, I'm Not The Only One, Centuries and I Don't Mind. Idk if this is out of the ordinary, just found it strange lol It's been shocking to me how long songs stay around now that we have streaming data. I always thought radio played songs out, but based on streaming it appears people want to hear songs forever and a day. I usually hear my friends say "I am so sick of this song!" so I am wondering who is still streaming these old as* songs so long after they peaked. Well, I personally don't really get sick of songs ever, so maybe it's people like me, and people that are just getting into songs much later than they came out because they didn't listen to the radio. |
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Post by crystalphnx on May 1, 2015 13:53:15 GMT -5
It's been shocking to me how long songs stay around now that we have streaming data. I always thought radio played songs out, but based on streaming it appears people want to hear songs forever and a day. I usually hear my friends say "I am so sick of this song!" so I am wondering who is still streaming these old as* songs so long after they peaked. I've definitely had the same reaction to the longevity of some stuff on Streaming Songs - but janster's point really helped remind me how we, as chart followers, are pretty much always aware of songs as they're blowing up (if not sooner.) If you don't listen to the radio or follow the charts - you may not discover these songs until they've been out for a while (maybe a friend/family member will mention them, or you'll hear them when you're at a store, or watching a commercial, etc.) Since they became big hits, these songs obviously have mass appeal, but not everyone will discover them right at the start of their success, the way we do (since our hobby is tracking successful songs.) It seems so obvious now, but it's something I didn't really think of, as an avid chart follower. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 14:00:52 GMT -5
It's been shocking to me how long songs stay around now that we have streaming data. I always thought radio played songs out, but based on streaming it appears people want to hear songs forever and a day. I usually hear my friends say "I am so sick of this song!" so I am wondering who is still streaming these old as* songs so long after they peaked. I've definitely had the same reaction to the longevity of some stuff on Streaming Songs - but janster's point really helped remind me how we, as chart followers, are pretty much always aware of songs as they're blowing up (if not sooner.) If you don't listen to the radio or follow the charts - you may not discover these songs until they've been out for a while (maybe a friend/family member will mention them, or you'll hear them when you're at a store, or watching a commercial, etc.) Since they became big hits, these songs obviously have mass appeal, but not everyone will discover them right at the start of their success, the way we do (since our hobby is tracking successful songs.) It seems so obvious now, but it's something I didn't really think of, as an avid chart follower. That's very true. I know people who just recently (within the past couple weeks) first heard "Uptown Funk!" xD But at the same time the other point is valid too that some songs have great longevity with the general public (for example, I still love "Counting Stars" despite the fact that the song is almost two years old). |
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Post by Gary on May 1, 2015 14:37:41 GMT -5
'Uptown Funk!' Gains More Writers After Gap Band's Legal Claim
Mark Ronson’s “Uptown Funk!” -- the Bruno Mars featuring hit that recently topped the Billboard Hot 100 for 14 weeks -- originally had six songwriters. On April 28, it officially picked up another five.
According to documents from RCA Records, which released the song, the original writers -- Ronson, Mars, co-producer Jeffrey Bhasker and Phillip Lawrence (one of Mars’ partners in his production team The Smeezingtons), along with Nicholas Williams (aka Trinidad James) and producer Devon Gallaspy, whose “All Gold Everything” has “portions embodied” in the song -- have been joined by the five writers of The Gap Band’s 1979 hit “Oops Upside Your Head”: bandmembers (and brothers) Charlie, Robert and Ronnie Wilson along with keyboardist Rudolph Taylor and producer Lonnie Simmons. They were added in the wake of a claim put forth by publisher Minder Music on behalf of the “Oops” songwriters.
Sources tell Billboard that the claim, which Minder filed into YouTube’s content management system sometime in February, put the song’s ownership splits at more than 100 percent. In those situations, YouTube stops paying publishers and moves the proceeds into an escrow account. The settlement, which sources say gives 17 percent to the “Oops” writers, frees up those monies, albeit with different songwriter shares going forward.
Asked whether he believes the March decision around Robin Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” -- in which a jury ordered its songwriters to pay $7.4 million to the estate of Thicke’s admitted influence, Marvin Gaye -- had an impact on this move, Danny Zook, who manages Trinidad James and runs sample clearing house Alien Music, says, “Everyone is being a little more cautious. Nobody wants to be involved in a lawsuit. Once a copyright dispute goes to a trial, [if a jury is used], it is subject to be decided by public opinion -- and no longer resolved based entirely on copyright law."
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Post by jenglisbe on May 1, 2015 16:30:01 GMT -5
It's been shocking to me how long songs stay around now that we have streaming data. I always thought radio played songs out, but based on streaming it appears people want to hear songs forever and a day. I usually hear my friends say "I am so sick of this song!" so I am wondering who is still streaming these old as* songs so long after they peaked. I've definitely had the same reaction to the longevity of some stuff on Streaming Songs - but janster's point really helped remind me how we, as chart followers, are pretty much always aware of songs as they're blowing up (if not sooner.) If you don't listen to the radio or follow the charts - you may not discover these songs until they've been out for a while (maybe a friend/family member will mention them, or you'll hear them when you're at a store, or watching a commercial, etc.) Since they became big hits, these songs obviously have mass appeal, but not everyone will discover them right at the start of their success, the way we do (since our hobby is tracking successful songs.) It seems so obvious now, but it's something I didn't really think of, as an avid chart follower. Solid point, though even then when I think of all the ways songs get exposure - viral videos, TV performances, radio, etc. - it is still surprising that people haven't heard songs. As in, I get what you are saying on an intellectual level, but it's hard to truly understand. Lol. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 1, 2015 19:13:53 GMT -5
'Uptown Funk!' Gains More Writers After Gap Band's Legal Claim Mark Ronson’s “Uptown Funk!” -- the Bruno Mars featuring hit that recently topped the Billboard Hot 100 for 14 weeks -- originally had six songwriters. On April 28, it officially picked up another five. According to documents from RCA Records, which released the song, the original writers -- Ronson, Mars, co-producer Jeffrey Bhasker and Phillip Lawrence (one of Mars’ partners in his production team The Smeezingtons), along with Nicholas Williams (aka Trinidad James) and producer Devon Gallaspy, whose “All Gold Everything” has “portions embodied” in the song -- have been joined by the five writers of The Gap Band’s 1979 hit “Oops Upside Your Head”: bandmembers (and brothers) Charlie, Robert and Ronnie Wilson along with keyboardist Rudolph Taylor and producer Lonnie Simmons. They were added in the wake of a claim put forth by publisher Minder Music on behalf of the “Oops” songwriters. Sources tell Billboard that the claim, which Minder filed into YouTube’s content management system sometime in February, put the song’s ownership splits at more than 100 percent. In those situations, YouTube stops paying publishers and moves the proceeds into an escrow account. The settlement, which sources say gives 17 percent to the “Oops” writers, frees up those monies, albeit with different songwriter shares going forward. Asked whether he believes the March decision around Robin Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” -- in which a jury ordered its songwriters to pay $7.4 million to the estate of Thicke’s admitted influence, Marvin Gaye -- had an impact on this move, Danny Zook, who manages Trinidad James and runs sample clearing house Alien Music, says, “Everyone is being a little more cautious. Nobody wants to be involved in a lawsuit. Once a copyright dispute goes to a trial, [if a jury is used], it is subject to be decided by public opinion -- and no longer resolved based entirely on copyright law." I wonder if this will affect it at the Grammys in terms of Song of the Year. It's hard to imagine them rewarding a song that needed 11 writers (I still think that's why "We Belong Together" lost Song of the Year; I don't know why all of those writers needed to be credited). |
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