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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 4, 2015 17:04:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:47:30 GMT -5
WKLB is just playing Little Big Town: "Girl Crush" and Miranda Lambert: "White Liar" back to back! Oh wow, I bet there was a stampede, since all the listeners probably couldn't get out of town fast enough.
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Post by lyhom on Jun 5, 2015 0:18:42 GMT -5
WKLB is just playing Little Big Town: "Girl Crush" and Miranda Lambert: "White Liar" back to back! in all seriousness though really glad that lots of people are disagreeing with this keith hill kid, always liked tomatoes more anyways lmao
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 5, 2015 15:24:21 GMT -5
Gloriana's Rachel Reinert talked with Billboard about "SaladGate": Billboard
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 5, 2015 21:58:32 GMT -5
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Post by T on Jun 6, 2015 0:12:35 GMT -5
Wow!! She really brought up some amazing points & I love the honesty in what she says. Its not only disappointing to see women on country radio struggling, but she's right it really is scary. Scary to think of a future of country music with no female's, scary to think that some of our idols could be shot down to the point where they worry about supporting their family, not being able to be heard etc. On a side note they cannot give up & gotta keep the momentum / voices heard & seen!!! Sara needs to get a single out there or some sort of promotion before this nightmare can become a reality. Same goes with Martina & all the others. Kasey & Miranda can only carry the torch for so long..
& kudos to billboard for posting this article on its website & facebook, its keeping awareness & conversation going. Which is what these girls (and country music) need!!!
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Post by toomuchboy on Jun 6, 2015 1:49:56 GMT -5
I love Sara Evans' comments, especially pointing out that it wasn't this way less than a decade ago. Female singers clearly didn't make the ratings go down in the '90s and early 2000's.
It's too bad there isn't a way female artists could band together to take some kind of legal action against radio's obvious sexism and misogyny.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 6, 2015 12:23:19 GMT -5
From the midweek update-K.T. Oslin's take: And they don’t need more tomatoes in the salad. They do. They do need more tomatoes. Women have some good music in them. Let’s don’t forget: Lettuce doesn’t have a lot of flavor, and it has very little nutritional value. So what are we ranting and raving about the lettuce for? Pretty weak stuff coming from the guys. I’m sick of hearing songs about their T-shirts and the mud on their trucks. Enough! Enough already! Give me something else. (Laughs.) Have I mentioned how much I LOVE LOVE LOVE KT Oslin? Here's even MORE K.T. Oslin for you: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/6590501/kt-oslin-country-hiatus-interview
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 8, 2015 22:13:00 GMT -5
We got another one! Miranda's rockin' it.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 9, 2015 11:29:00 GMT -5
We got another one! Miranda's rockin' it. My friend created that shirt and got it to the people (stars).
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jun 10, 2015 18:36:32 GMT -5
This whole event was very distasteful...and kinda offensive. I normally don't eat tomatoes on my salad or sandwich, but after this Keith Hill thing, I start to feel guilty every time I say no to tomatoes now. Thanks a lot country radio. The day I plug in my iPod or turn to satellite radio in my car can't come soon enough. :(
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Post by slowmo on Jun 11, 2015 19:28:16 GMT -5
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 14, 2015 20:58:39 GMT -5
Bob is ABSOLUTELY right! So,hopefully fans will be vocal to,radio about it too.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 15, 2015 17:19:51 GMT -5
I love Laura Bell Bundy's tomato shirt, haha.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Jun 15, 2015 17:38:02 GMT -5
LOL that shirt is awesome!
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Post by Sean on Jun 17, 2015 21:21:44 GMT -5
My "Tomato Lover" shirt came in the mail today!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 18, 2015 0:40:28 GMT -5
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Post by countrygirl918 on Jun 18, 2015 17:32:52 GMT -5
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Post by tim on Jun 20, 2015 0:12:08 GMT -5
It's great to see artists continue to speak out against the idiotic comments made by the radio consultant. I've been on a K.T. Oslin binge the past couple of weeks and have to say we need more tomato's like the one below on country radio! I love watching K.T. sing this song.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 11:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2015 12:09:15 GMT -5
It's great to see artists continue to speak out against the idiotic comments made by the radio consultant. I've been on a K.T. Oslin binge the past couple of weeks and have to say we need more tomato's like the one below on country radio! I love watching K.T. sing this song. Here's the chart where K.T. Oslin was tops: BILLBOARD TOP TEN FOR WEEK ENDING JANUARY 7, 1989: 1. HOLD ME-K.T. OSLIN-RCA 2. Change Of Heart-the Judds-RCA 3. She's Crazy For Leaving-Rodney Crowell-Columbia 4. Deeper Than The Holler-Randy Travis-Warner Bros. 5. Long Shot-Baillie and the Boys-RCA 6. Blue Side Of Town-Patty Loveless-MCA 7. All The Reasons Why-Highway 101-Warner Bros. 8. Hold On A Little Longer-Steve Wariner-MCA 9. What I'd Say-Earl Thomas Conley-RCA 10. Burnin' A Hole In My Heart-Skip Ewing-MCA
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 29, 2015 11:24:25 GMT -5
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Post by countrygirl918 on Jul 2, 2015 11:46:55 GMT -5
Article in today's Billboard Country Update: Is Kelsea Ballerini A Game-Changer For Women At Country? (page 3) Some quotes I want to pull out: I mean, I don't even know what to say to this argument that hasn't already been said a million times (and ignored just as many times). Finally, an in-touch industry person that actually gets it!
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Post by travelrocks24 on Feb 8, 2016 16:38:28 GMT -5
I was wondering if the Billboard article was posted already. Good job.
Interesting stats that the article presents, but I still think women are getting the shaft. I think if radio stations took a few risks, and the program directors did some research, they would be able to play music that would catch on if given a chance.
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Post by sabre14 on May 1, 2017 23:53:33 GMT -5
I put this in the "News and Non-Singles" thread but since it is on the subject of this thread's narrative, I'll put it here too. Phyllis Stark's Billboard article tonight on women on Country radio and comments from Jana Kramer and Maren Morris on the subject.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Jul 19, 2017 11:39:13 GMT -5
www.rollingstone.com/country/news/what-miranda-lamberts-sales-say-about-sexism-at-radio-w492857On this week's Country Airplay chart, six of the Top 60-charting songs are by solo females. It's hard not to link this issue with the overall lack of women on country radio, a popular, if polarizing, point of contention. In the immediate wake of Tomatogate – when a radio exec compared female artists to tomatoes in country radio's salad – and the related movements like Change the Conversation that sprang up as a counterbalance, it felt, briefly, as if the country industry as a whole was taking positive steps to address the problem. No one expected an overnight transformation but now, two years on from the original firestorm, the situation is worse and speaks to just how deeply embedded the problem is in the culture. On this week's Billboard Country Airplay chart (dated July 29th), six of the Top 60-charting songs are by solo females. The highest of those is newcomer Carly Pearce, the subject of a recent Washington Post story about the rigors of radio tours, whose debut single "Every Little Thing" just reached Number 19. Maren Morris is close behind at Number 25 with "I Could Use a Love Song" and, strangely, also appeared last week at Number One as an integral part of the Thomas Rhett collaboration "Craving You" (a song that sounds like M83's "Midnight City" with a twang). "Craving You" – a track on which she provides harmony vocals opposite a multi-Number Ones male star – is Morris' first chart-topper, not her own soulful "My Church," a smash by pretty much any other metric, which peaked at Number Nine on the Country Airplay chart. Likewise, her kinetic, neon-splattered "80s Mercedes" stalled at Number 11. Despite the Airplay falters, Morris' excellent debut LP Hero has been certified gold for sales of 500,000, a robust accomplishment in this era of decreased album buying.
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Post by tryexp on Jul 20, 2017 7:41:28 GMT -5
Personally I think artists need to find new ways of making it work and connecting with fans without being dependent on radio. Most PDs these days don't really understand the shifting reality of the music business and will resist any change on this male-female situation. Sexism is too deeply ingrained in society for the change to be quick, specially if these changes will likely push out less accomplished male artists.
A couple of years ago country music started getting more and more popular in the UK, and these days some artists with come and play sold out shows with minimal airplay here. Kacey is hugely successful, and she is having a relevant career without radio help. It's hard and takes a lot of work, but compared to just go on radio tours and then fail to have a decent charting single when sales are great, isn't really paying off for females...
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