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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 12, 2015 20:28:44 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: October 27, 199001 02 Black Cat - Janet Jackson (1st and only week at #1)02 01 I Don't Have The Heart - James Ingram 03 04 Ice Ice Baby - Vanilla Ice 04 07 Giving You The Benefit - Pebbles 05 12 Love Takes Time - Mariah Carey 06 09 Can't Stop - After 7 07 05 Close To You - Maxi Priest 08 03 Praying For Time - George Michael 09 11 Suicide Blonde - INXS 10 08 Everybody Everybody - Black Box Be still my freshman in high school heart. This was at the prime of my Casey's (or American) Top 40 countdown days for me... 1990 was such a great and memorable year for me when it comes to pop music. Special props to Giving You The Benefit by Pebbles on this list. LOVE that song. Overall, a great top 10! You're 40? OMI! I feel so young! |
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Post by wavey. on Oct 12, 2015 20:37:11 GMT -5
i think the key is MAJORITY when it comes to feature credit being added because of a remix. The featured version has to be acquire the majority of it's chart points in a week compared to that of the original (feature-less) version. So unless sales of the remixes are the dominant point factor, neither feature will be listed on the respective chart in question. out of the 3, the Eminem remix, has been at #2 since yesterday. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 20:39:04 GMT -5
Be still my freshman in high school heart. This was at the prime of my Casey's (or American) Top 40 countdown days for me... 1990 was such a great and memorable year for me when it comes to pop music. Special props to Giving You The Benefit by Pebbles on this list. LOVE that song. Overall, a great top 10! You're 40? OMI! I feel so young! yep. turned 40 in august. i was alive through half of the 70s, my friend. i've seen a lot of eras and changes in popular music.... and witnessed the beginnings (and some unfortunate endings) of many a career! for what it's worth, i still feel young too! it's weird, but 40 isn't the 40 i thought it was when i was 20 or younger. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 20:41:31 GMT -5
i think the key is MAJORITY when it comes to feature credit being added because of a remix. The featured version has to be acquire the majority of it's chart points in a week compared to that of the original (feature-less) version. So unless sales of the remixes are the dominant point factor, neither feature will be listed on the respective chart in question. out of the 3, the Eminem remix, has been at #2 since yesterday. true, but the regular version is right below it, and there's the clean version in the 60s. looking at the pop bars for the Em remix, its not that far ahead of the album version, so... i don't think the remix will have the majority of points. so far anyway. |
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Post by wavey. on Oct 12, 2015 20:44:01 GMT -5
out of the 3, the Eminem remix, has been at #2 since yesterday. true, but the regular version is right below it, and there's the clean version in the 60s. looking at the pop bars for the Em remix, its not that far ahead of the album version, so... i don't think the remix will have the majority of points. so far anyway. Hopefully, it's stable cause it's been favored as the better remix, and brought more buzz than Onika's remix |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 12, 2015 20:45:30 GMT -5
Carrie has only had 1 song crossver to pop radio - "Before He Cheats." I think Dixie Chicks only had "Landslide," no? What am I missing? And what Rascal Flatts or Tim McGraw song/s crossed over to pop radio? Jesus Take the Wheel was huge all over. It may not have climbed high but it crossed over. Eh, I don't think it crossed over top Top 40 at all, and it only peaked at #23 on the AC chart. It hit #4 on Christian radio, so if it crossed over from country to any format, it was that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 20:46:49 GMT -5
true, but the regular version is right below it, and there's the clean version in the 60s. looking at the pop bars for the Em remix, its not that far ahead of the album version, so... i don't think the remix will have the majority of points. so far anyway. Hopefully, it's stable cause it's been favored as the better remix, and brought more buzz than Onika's remix it's funny cuz when i was listening on iTunes yesterday, the preview of the Em version includes his verse... the Nicki remix preview doesn't include her verse. That is not helping her version! |
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Post by wavey. on Oct 12, 2015 20:47:44 GMT -5
Hopefully, it's stable cause it's been favored as the better remix, and brought more buzz than Onika's remix it's funny cuz when i was listening on iTunes yesterday, the preview of the Em version includes his verse... the Nicki remix doesn't include her verse. That is not helping her version! right, which is why it's at #34 right now. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 12, 2015 21:07:15 GMT -5
But wasn't the Nicki version performed on SNL? That's better promo than the preview.
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Post by tekkenguy on Oct 12, 2015 21:18:43 GMT -5
There was a country freeze-out at CHR between 1984 and 1997. Other than Restless Heart and Billy Ray Cyrus, nothing crossed over, period. The same was never true of Rock songs. The Active Rock freeze-out is even worse than the country one was even though it hasn't gone on for nearly as long. |
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Post by wavey. on Oct 12, 2015 21:19:47 GMT -5
But wasn't the Nicki version performed on SNL? That's better promo than the preview. Yep. |
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Post by carreramd on Oct 12, 2015 22:43:09 GMT -5
My Top 40 Predictions:
1 THE HILLS
2 HOTLINE BLING
3 WHAT DO YOU MEAN
4 WATCH ME
5 679
6 CANT FEEL MY FACE
7 LOCKED AWAY
8 STITCHES
9 WILDEST DREAMS
10 GOOD FOR YOU
11 PHOTOGRAPH
12 LEAN ON
13 CHEERLEADER
14 DOWNTOWN
15 HIT THE QUAN
16 JUMPMAN
17 EX'S & OH'S
18 MY WAY
19 RENEGADES
20 TRAP QUEEN
21 DRAG ME DOWN
22 COOL FOR THE SUMMER
23 ON MY MIND
24 SEE YOU AGAIN
25 WHERE ARE U NOW
26 MARVIN GAYE
27 FIGHT SONG
28 LIKE I'M GONNA LOSE YOU
29 LOVE MYSELF
30 STRIP IT DOWN
31 HERE
32 WHERE YA AT
33 THINKING OUT LOUD
34 ALL EYES ON YOU
35 HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE
36 LEVELS
37 AGAIN
38 SAME OLD LOVE
39 UMA THURMAN
40 DIE A HAPPY MAN
I don't know if Bad Blood, Earned It, Sugar, Want To Want Me or Worth It will stay in the chart. What do you think?
And what about Victorious, Confident and Hands of Love?
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Post by velaxti on Oct 13, 2015 5:39:45 GMT -5
i think the key is MAJORITY when it comes to feature credit being added because of a remix. The featured version has to be acquire the majority of it's chart points in a week compared to that of the original (feature-less) version. So unless sales of the remixes are the dominant point factor, neither feature will be listed on the respective chart in question. Billboard don't do it like that anymore. Read the Hot 100 article from the week that Lay Me Down went top 10 due to the John Legend remix. They've changed their rules. They don't get credited anymore unless a remix does better than the original over a long period of time (i.e. multiple weeks). So if the Eminem remix is still selling the most by November they might start crediting him then. Although even before then Billboard were very inconsistent with how they credited songs with popular remixes. Whenever Britney Spears or someone was involved they did it fine, but when it was rappers it seemed almost random who got credited (and rappers do remixes like this ALL THE TIME). UOENO by Rocko was probably the worst example of this, since it had millions of popular remixes, and the original version which it got credited to for its entire run hardly sold anything and didn't get radio airplay because of it's rape-y lyrics. There were remixes by Kendrick Lamar, Wiz Khalifa, etc. which were more popular imo but they never got credited, not even one week. But I think Billboard aren't able to distinguish which version of a song streaming points come from, which makes it difficult to say which version gets the most points each week. It was easier when the chart was 70% sales and the rest airplay. |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 13, 2015 7:16:36 GMT -5
El Perdon still in! AMAZING
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 8:09:56 GMT -5
My Top 40 Predictions: 1 THE HILLS 2 HOTLINE BLING 3 WHAT DO YOU MEAN 4 WATCH ME 5 679 6 CANT FEEL MY FACE 7 LOCKED AWAY 8 STITCHES 9 WILDEST DREAMS 10 GOOD FOR YOU 11 PHOTOGRAPH 12 LEAN ON 13 CHEERLEADER 14 DOWNTOWN 15 HIT THE QUAN 16 JUMPMAN 17 EX'S & OH'S 18 MY WAY 19 RENEGADES 20 TRAP QUEEN 21 DRAG ME DOWN 22 COOL FOR THE SUMMER 23 ON MY MIND 24 SEE YOU AGAIN 25 WHERE ARE U NOW 26 MARVIN GAYE 27 FIGHT SONG 28 LIKE I'M GONNA LOSE YOU 29 LOVE MYSELF 30 STRIP IT DOWN 31 HERE 32 WHERE YA AT 33 THINKING OUT LOUD 34 ALL EYES ON YOU 35 HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE 36 LEVELS 37 AGAIN 38 SAME OLD LOVE 39 UMA THURMAN 40 DIE A HAPPY MAN I don't know if Bad Blood, Earned It, Sugar, Want To Want Me or Worth It will stay in the chart. What do you think? And what about Victorious, Confident and Hands of Love? If those are next week's predictions, you're basically saying the entire top 10 will stay the same which won't happen (it will not be one of those weeks), and you have WAY too many songs staying in the same positions, which also won't happen. "Here" will very likely go up, and no way "Marvin Gaye", "Cool For The Summer" or "Uma Thurman" rebound, they're at the end of their chart runs and will drop out soon. "Sugar" refuses to move, so it might not leave that easily, "Want To Want Me" might not leave until 2 or 3 weeks from now, the rest are pretty much done. Let's be realistic, Panic! At The Disco will always be known to the general public as the guys that sang "I Write Sins, Not Tragedies", and I don't think it'll peak too high on the Hot 100 (and if it does, it'll only be there for a week or two), should do well on rock, though. I think the hype around Demi may have worn off after "Cool For The Summer", this followup single will be lucky to reach the top 20 unless it gets a major push. And nothing from Miley's new album will be charting here since there doesn't seem to be any real hype or interest and she hasn't really promoted it. Unless it's released to radio, it won't even enter the Hot 100. |
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Post by carreramd on Oct 13, 2015 8:27:07 GMT -5
My Top 40 Predictions: 1 THE HILLS 2 HOTLINE BLING 3 WHAT DO YOU MEAN 4 WATCH ME 5 679 6 CANT FEEL MY FACE 7 LOCKED AWAY 8 STITCHES 9 WILDEST DREAMS 10 GOOD FOR YOU 11 PHOTOGRAPH 12 LEAN ON 13 CHEERLEADER 14 DOWNTOWN 15 HIT THE QUAN 16 JUMPMAN 17 EX'S & OH'S 18 MY WAY 19 RENEGADES 20 TRAP QUEEN 21 DRAG ME DOWN 22 COOL FOR THE SUMMER 23 ON MY MIND 24 SEE YOU AGAIN 25 WHERE ARE U NOW 26 MARVIN GAYE 27 FIGHT SONG 28 LIKE I'M GONNA LOSE YOU 29 LOVE MYSELF 30 STRIP IT DOWN 31 HERE 32 WHERE YA AT 33 THINKING OUT LOUD 34 ALL EYES ON YOU 35 HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE 36 LEVELS 37 AGAIN 38 SAME OLD LOVE 39 UMA THURMAN 40 DIE A HAPPY MAN I don't know if Bad Blood, Earned It, Sugar, Want To Want Me or Worth It will stay in the chart. What do you think? And what about Victorious, Confident and Hands of Love? If those are next week's predictions, you're basically saying the entire top 10 will stay the same which won't happen (it will not be one of those weeks), and you have WAY too many songs staying in the same positions, which also won't happen. "Here" will very likely go up, and no way "Marvin Gaye", "Cool For The Summer" or "Uma Thurman" rebound, they're at the end of their chart runs and will drop out soon. "Sugar" refuses to move, so it might not leave that easily, "Want To Want Me" might not leave until 2 or 3 weeks from now, the rest are pretty much done. Let's be realistic, Panic! At The Disco will always be known to the general public as the guys that sang "I Write Sins, Not Tragedies", and I don't think it'll peak too high on the Hot 100, should do well on rock, though. I think the hype around Demi may have worn off after "Cool For The Summer", this followup single will be lucky to reach the top 20 unless it gets a major push. And nothing from Miley's new album will be charting here since there doesn't seem to be any real hype or interest and she hasn't really promoted it, unless it's released to radio, it won't even enter the Hot 100. No! Those are my yesterday's predictions for the chart of today, based in the positions revealed on the article and Periscope. The actual week isn't even in the middle, right? I'll probably wait until sunday to think about it. By the way, I believe you're right about the Miley's new album (I think it isn't avaliable on iTunes, don't know), but the song Hands of Love is a soundtrack for one film, released last week, some people are saying that it could won a Oscar, and the sales in the iTunes wasn't doing bad in the entire first week (ended thursday).. So I was guessing it could debut in the hot 100, at least #90 or something like that. Same about Victorious... |
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Post by Gary on Oct 13, 2015 8:35:25 GMT -5
The Miley song bubbled under this week. El Perdon enters the radio top 50 at #50. Although it holds the record for longest stay for a song peaking below #50, that could change if the song continues to grow.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Oct 13, 2015 9:06:05 GMT -5
May I ask everyone a few questions?
Alright.
-What does CHR stand for?
-And can someone explain how the points add up for each song? (Can you use Hotline Bling as an example and add its points together but show how you added them up? Because I don't understand.) Also, can someone tell me where you find the streaming, airplay, and sales points?
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Post by purplefebruary on Oct 13, 2015 9:36:33 GMT -5
I want to ask, how the hell did "Watch Me" go back up this week?! I was under the impression that it was finally on its way out of the top 10, that song just won't die!  |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Oct 13, 2015 10:15:49 GMT -5
I want to ask, how the hell did "Watch Me" go back up this week?! I was under the impression that it was finally on its way out of the top 10, that song just won't die! A viral video of some player on a football team doing the whip at a game |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Oct 13, 2015 10:17:07 GMT -5
And also, it won't die on iTunes either, every 2 days or so, it will have a random gain in sales and it will jump 5-10 places.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 10:27:32 GMT -5
CHR means "contemporary hit radio", by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 10:36:37 GMT -5
CHR means "contemporary hit radio", by the way. Which is synonymous with "pop radio" and "top 40 radio" as well, just to further clarify. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 10:42:06 GMT -5
If those are next week's predictions, you're basically saying the entire top 10 will stay the same which won't happen (it will not be one of those weeks), and you have WAY too many songs staying in the same positions, which also won't happen. "Here" will very likely go up, and no way "Marvin Gaye", "Cool For The Summer" or "Uma Thurman" rebound, they're at the end of their chart runs and will drop out soon. "Sugar" refuses to move, so it might not leave that easily, "Want To Want Me" might not leave until 2 or 3 weeks from now, the rest are pretty much done. Let's be realistic, Panic! At The Disco will always be known to the general public as the guys that sang "I Write Sins, Not Tragedies", and I don't think it'll peak too high on the Hot 100, should do well on rock, though. I think the hype around Demi may have worn off after "Cool For The Summer", this followup single will be lucky to reach the top 20 unless it gets a major push. And nothing from Miley's new album will be charting here since there doesn't seem to be any real hype or interest and she hasn't really promoted it, unless it's released to radio, it won't even enter the Hot 100. No! Those are my yesterday's predictions for the chart of today, based in the positions revealed on the article and Periscope. The actual week isn't even in the middle, right? I'll probably wait until sunday to think about it. By the way, I believe you're right about the Miley's new album (I think it isn't avaliable on iTunes, don't know), but the song Hands of Love is a soundtrack for one film, released last week, some people are saying that it could won a Oscar, and the sales in the iTunes wasn't doing bad in the entire first week (ended thursday).. So I was guessing it could debut in the hot 100, at least #90 or something like that. Same about Victorious... It's always interesting to see how sales impact the Hot 100 less and less these days, relative to ever before. While songs appear to do well on the iTunes chart, the total volume/points are still too low in many cases. Kinda sad, but true. I remember the days when sales was the king of the jungle, even more than radio. Today, anything less than stellar sales need some streaming and/or radio support to make it onto the Hot 100. Anyway, it's also not helping that Drake is a chart hog right now, lol. It's pretty incredible that all those album tracks are having multiple week runs. |
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Post by carreramd on Oct 13, 2015 11:14:48 GMT -5
No! Those are my yesterday's predictions for the chart of today, based in the positions revealed on the article and Periscope. The actual week isn't even in the middle, right? I'll probably wait until sunday to think about it. By the way, I believe you're right about the Miley's new album (I think it isn't avaliable on iTunes, don't know), but the song Hands of Love is a soundtrack for one film, released last week, some people are saying that it could won a Oscar, and the sales in the iTunes wasn't doing bad in the entire first week (ended thursday).. So I was guessing it could debut in the hot 100, at least #90 or something like that. Same about Victorious... It's always interesting to see how sales impact the Hot 100 less and less these days, relative to ever before. While songs appear to do well on the iTunes chart, the total volume/points are still too low in many cases. Kinda sad, but true. I remember the days when sales was the king of the jungle, even more than radio. Today, anything less than stellar sales need some streaming and/or radio support to make it onto the Hot 100. Anyway, it's also not helping that Drake is a chart hog right now, lol. It's pretty incredible that all those album tracks are having multiple week runs. True... So many songs doing very well on iTunes, sometimes staying on top 20 or 30 for weeks, but can't reach for good positions on the Hot 100. The formula of the Billboard changed since the growth of streaming? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 12:46:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't say sales are impacting the Hot 100 less than ever before. From around 2001-2004, the Hot 100 pretty much mirrored the Hot 100 Airplay chart.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 13, 2015 12:55:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't say sales are impacting the Hot 100 less than ever before. From around 2001-2004, the Hot 100 pretty much mirrored the Hot 100 Airplay chart. Yeah.. That's why a few songs went atop the chart without any sales.. ("Try again" and "lady marmalade"..) Nowadays, though, if you have Harlem Shake streaming, then 0 airplay & 0 sales are needed and u still get the no.1 |
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Post by House Lannister on Oct 13, 2015 15:47:28 GMT -5
Exactly. That's how I finally heard Sam Smith's Bond theme. In the film, it might prove decent. But it's no Skyfall, that's for sure. You are in the Spotify zombie squad! Haha! Let me guess.. Your favorite song is "Thinking Out Loud", right? Don't think I've ever played Thinking Out Loud on Spotify before...haven't even used it all too much. I just logged on and the last song I've played was One More Night. Thinking Out Loud is a good song, sure, but I wouldn't say it's even my favorite of this year. |
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Post by House Lannister on Oct 13, 2015 15:59:36 GMT -5
El Perdon still in! AMAZING I think it tied the record set by B.O.B with Headband with 29 weeks. That song peaked at #53. |
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 13, 2015 17:30:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't say sales are impacting the Hot 100 less than ever before. From around 2001-2004, the Hot 100 pretty much mirrored the Hot 100 Airplay chart. Yeah.. That's why a few songs went atop the chart without any sales.. ("Try again" and "lady marmalade"..) Nowadays, though, if you have Harlem Shake streaming, then 0 airplay & 0 sales are needed and u still get the no.1 That's really not a concern. "Harlem Shake" is not a normal occurrence. In fact, "Harlem Shake" is the only song of its kind. Even then, though, "Harlem Shake" still had sales and airplay. It peaked inside the top five on digital sales and cracked the top 40 on pop. Also, as far as digital sales affecting the Hot 100 goes... well, that's gonna happen when sales slip as hard as they have. The formula will be adjusted accordingly soon, I'm sure. You can't expect a song that's #10 on iTunes today to give the same charting affect to a song with the same feat 5 years ago when the #10 song now sells roughly the same as a #30 song back then. |
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