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Post by velaxti on Oct 11, 2015 6:45:27 GMT -5
^ Ariana may not be THAT big of a star (i.e. Justin Bieber/One Direction big), but her songs always go high on iTunes immediately after release. For example The Way, Baby I, Problem, etc. Not sure about #1 but her new single will have a high debut I reckon.
She should probably try and release the week before the Hotline Bling video comes out.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 11, 2015 7:01:45 GMT -5
So there is not even a release date yet? And we are discussing this?
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Post by Future Captain on Oct 11, 2015 10:34:46 GMT -5
You know, I'm wondering. Why does it seemed, especially since 2011, Alt hits crossover to Pop/HAC seemed to be easier than it is for Country hits to do so? I mean, this year alone, we already have two major Alt crossover (TMTC and SUAD), and if you want to count FOB, that's two more (Uma and Centuries), not to mention the smaller ones (Someone New, Cecilia, I Bet My Life), and the two that's currently climbing up (Renegades and Ex's and Oh's), while not even Sam Hunt managed to go top 20 in Pop.
Thoughts?
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Post by kanimal on Oct 11, 2015 10:35:07 GMT -5
So there is not even a release date yet? And we are discussing this? The song's release date is October 30. We can pretty safely assume an hourly iHeartRadio deal the same day, although I don't know that the video has been confirmed. In terms of sales, Problem was a stroke of perfection in terms of the marketing + timing. -- There was the aggressive pre-order campaign (for the single), which surely banked a six-figure sales total prior to the release. -- She debuted this at the Radio Disney Music Awards moments before the song went up on iTunes. -- The song featured Iggy, whose Fancy was exploding at the time. I think they're on the right track with this launch -- the early announcement was a great idea -- but it's hard to be 100% confident they can recreate the magic of those other factors. |
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Post by Soulsista on Oct 11, 2015 10:48:38 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
October 25, 1980
01 02 Woman In Love - Barbra Streisand (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
03 05 He's So Shy - The Pointer Sisters
04 03 Upside Down - Diana Ross
05 06 Real Love - The Doobie Brothers
06 17 Lady - Kenny Rogers
07 11 The Wanderer - Donna Summer
08 04 All Out Of Love - Air Supply
09 07 I'm Alright - Kenny Loggins
10 12 Never Knew Love Like This Before - Stephanie Mills
October 26, 1985
01 02 Saving All My Love For You - Whitney Houston (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 Part Time Lover - Stevie Wonder
03 01 Take On Me - a-ha
04 05 Miami Vice Theme - Jan Hammer
05 10 Head Over Heels - Tears For Fears
06 04 Oh Sheila - Ready For The World
07 06 Lonely Ol' Night - John Cougar Mellencamp
08 09 Fortress Around Your Heart - Sting
09 11 I'm Goin' Down - Bruce Springsteen
10 15 You Belong To The City - Glenn Frey
October 27, 1990
01 02 Black Cat - Janet Jackson (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 I Don't Have The Heart - James Ingram
03 04 Ice Ice Baby - Vanilla Ice
04 07 Giving You The Benefit - Pebbles
05 12 Love Takes Time - Mariah Carey
06 09 Can't Stop - After 7
07 05 Close To You - Maxi Priest
08 03 Praying For Time - George Michael
09 11 Suicide Blonde - INXS
10 08 Everybody Everybody - Black Box
October 21, 1995
01 01 Fantasy - Mariah Carey (4th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V.
03 04 Runaway - Janet Jackson
04 05 Kiss From a Rose - Seal
05 03 You Are Not Alone - Michael Jackson
06 07 Only Wanna Be With You - Hootie & The Blowfish
07 06 Waterfalls - TLC
08 08 As I Lay Me Down - Sophie B. Hawkins
09 09 Brokenhearted - Brandy
10 12 Tell Me - Groove Theory
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Post by Soulsista on Oct 11, 2015 11:24:36 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
October 17, 1960 (for the week ending October 22)
01 04 Save The Last Dance For Me - The Drifters (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 03 My Heart Has a Mind Of Its Own - Connie Francis
03 02 Chain Gang - Sam Cooke
04 09 I Want To Be Wanted - Brenda Lee
05 05 The Twist - Chubby Checker
06 08 Devil Or Angel - Bobby Vee
07 01 Mr. Custer - Larry Verne
08 06 A Million To One - Jimmy Charles
09 07 So Sad - The Everly Brothers
10 11 It's Now Or Never - Elvis Presley
October 23, 1965
01 01 Yesterday - The Beatles (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Treat Her Right - Roy Head
03 04 A Lover's Concerto - The Toys
04 14 Get Off My Cloud - The Rolling Stones
05 05 Keep On Dancing - The Gentrys
06 03 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys
07 07 Just a Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits
08 12 Everybody Loves a Clown - Gary Lewis & The Playboys
09 18 Positively 4th Street - Bob Dylan
10 16 You're The One - The Vogues
October 24, 1970
01 01 I'll Be There - The Jackson Five (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Cracklin' Rosie - Neil Diamond
03 03 Green-Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf
04 05 We've Only Just Begun - The Carpenters
05 04 All Right Now - Free
06 10 Fire And Rain - James Taylor
07 06 Candida - Dawn
08 11 Indiana Wants Me - R. Dean Taylor
09 12 Lola - The Kinks
10 07 Ain't No Mountain High Enough - Diana Ross
October 25, 1975
01 01 Bad Blood - Neil Sedaka (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 I'm Sorry / Calypso - John Denver
03 03 Miracles - Jefferson Starship
04 04 Lyin' Eyes - The Eagles
05 09 They Just Can't Stop It (Games People Play) - The Spinners
06 07 Feelings - Morris Albert
07 10 Who Loves You - The Four Seasons
08 36 Island Girl - Elton John
09 05 Ballroom Blitz - Sweet
10 11 It Only Takes a Minute - Tavares
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Post by Juan Carlos on Oct 11, 2015 11:45:19 GMT -5
Mediabase (10/11/15)
1. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 178.947 (+ 0.137)
2. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 155.889 (- 0.470)
3. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 149.482 (+ 2.892)
4. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 138.192 (- 2.781)
5. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 137.393 (+ 1.808)
6. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 119.606 (- 2.710)
7. DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 105.690 (+ 3.090) ▲
8. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 102.920 (- 1.680) ▼
9. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 99.893 (+ 2.235)
10. X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 96.620 (+ 0.880)
11. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 91.832 (- 1.576)
12. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 84.283 (- 0.899)
13. ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 76.213 (+ 1.333)
14. FETTY WAP - 679 f/Remy Boyz...: 72.189 (+ 0.618)
15. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 67.347 (- 0.575)
16. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 66.899 (- 0.165)
17. BRETT ELDREDGE - Lose My Mind: 66.823 (+ 0.106)
18. OMI - Cheerleader: 64.306 (- 2.276)
19. LUKE BRYAN - Strip It Down: 63.726 (+ 0.255) ▲
20. KENNY CHESNEY - Save It For A Rainy Day: 63.075 (- 1.505)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 57.417 (+ 0.728)
ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 56.474 (+ 0.129)
CHASE RICE - Gonna Wanna Tonight: 54.740 (+ 0.410)
COLE SWINDELL - Let Me See Ya Girl: 51.413 (- 0.045)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 50.867 (+ 0.044)
ELLIE GOULDING - On My Mind: 46.383 (+ 1.255)
ALESSIA CARA - Here: 45.963 (+ 1.538)
BLAKE SHELTON - Gonna: 44.766 (+ 0.053)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 44.433 (+ 0.971)
CALVIN HARRIS + DISCIPLES - How Deep Is Your Love: 42.606 (+ 0.774)
NICK JONAS - Levels: 37.486 (- 0.096)
SELENA GOMEZ - Same Old Love: 26.331 (+ 0.882)
MAJOR LAZER - Powerful f/Ellie Goulding: 26.113 (- 0.004)
MAROON 5 - Feelings: 18.390 (+ 0.429)
RUDIMENTAL - Lay It All On Me f/Ed Sheeran: 15.711 (+ 0.929)
DEMI LOVATO - Confident: 12.254 (+ 1.734)
THOMAS RHETT - Die A Happy Man: 11.767 (+ 0.900)
RACHEL PLATTEN - Stand By You: 11.040 (+ 0.449)
CHRIS BROWN - Zero: 6.227 (- 0.011)
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Post by ry4n on Oct 11, 2015 11:51:50 GMT -5
Top 10 flashbacks for this week
1 year ago (10/25/2014)
1 1 All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor (6th week of 8 @ #1)
2 2 Shake It Off - Taylor Swift
3 3 Black Widow - Iggy Azalea feat. Rita Ora
4 6 Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo
5 4 Bang Bang - Jessie J, Ariana Grande & Nicki Minaj
6 7 Don't Tell 'Em - Jeremih feat. YG
7 8 Animals - Maroon 5
8 5 Anaconda - Nicki Minaj
9 9 Stay With Me - Sam Smith
10 12 Hot Boy - Bobby Shmurda
5 years ago (10/23/2010)
1 1 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars (4th and final week @ #1)
2 2 Like A G6 - Far East Movement feat. The Cataracs & Dev
3 4 Just A Dream - Nelly
4 3 Teenage Dream - Katy Perry
5 5 DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love - Usher feat. Pitbull
6 8 Only Girl (In The World) - Rihanna
7 6 Dynamite - Taio Cruz
8 NE Speak Now - Taylor Swift
9 10 Club Can't Handle Me - Flo Rida feat. David Guetta
10 7 Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna
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12 NE Runaway - Kanye West feat. Pusha T
10 years ago (10/22/2005)
1 1 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx (6th week of 10 @ #1)
2 3 Photograph - Nickelback
3 2 Shake It Off - Mariah Carey
4 5 My Humps - Black Eyed Peas
5 4 Like You - Bow Wow feat. Ciara
6 6 Wake Me Up When September Ends - Green Day
7 8 Soul Survivor - Young Jeezy feat. Akon
8 11 Run It! - Chris Brown
9 14 Because Of You - Kelly Clarkson
10 7 Play - David Banner
15 years ago (10/21/2000)
1 1 Come On Over Baby (All I Want Is You) - Christina Aguilera (2nd week of 4 @ #1)
2 2 Music - Madonna
3 5 With Arms Wide Open - Creed
4 4 Kryptonite - 3 Doors Down
5 8 Most Girls - P!nk
6 3 Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche) - 98 Degrees
7 6 Jumpin', Jumpin' - Destiny's Child
8 7 Doesn't Really Matter - Janet Jackson
9 9 Bag Lady - Erykah Badu
10 10 Incomplete - Sisqo
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Post by 85la on Oct 11, 2015 14:09:36 GMT -5
You know, I'm wondering. Why does it seemed, especially since 2011, Alt hits crossover to Pop/HAC seemed to be easier than it is for Country hits to do so? I mean, this year alone, we already have two major Alt crossover (TMTC and SUAD), and if you want to count FOB, that's two more (Uma and Centuries), not to mention the smaller ones (Someone New, Cecilia, I Bet My Life), and the two that's currently climbing up (Renegades and Ex's and Oh's), while not even Sam Hunt managed to go top 20 in Pop. Thoughts? Country has always had a very hard time crossing over to pop/adult radio during any time period. Overall, if you look at it it's quite rare in fact. It's just much more of a niche genre. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 11, 2015 20:45:32 GMT -5
So... The Weeknd shakes out those two remixes out of nowhere to keep Drake from stealing his throne? Now it turns from "crew love" to "crew war"! Haha
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Oct 11, 2015 20:47:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Billboard will delay the charts for a day because of the holiday weekend, similar to what they did for Labor Day?
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Post by Gary on Oct 11, 2015 21:05:05 GMT -5
For Columbus Day? I doubt it. Other than federal services, everything is open tomorrow.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 11, 2015 21:55:10 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Billboard will delay the charts for a day because of the holiday weekend, similar to what they did for Labor Day? Holiday weekend? Like, 200 days off? Good! Cuz' that's exactly 100 times as it is now! |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 11, 2015 21:57:05 GMT -5
^ Ariana may not be THAT big of a star (i.e. Justin Bieber/One Direction big), but her songs always go high on iTunes immediately after release. For example The Way, Baby I, Problem, etc. Not sure about #1 but her new single will have a high debut I reckon. She should probably try and release the week before the Hotline Bling video comes out. I'm curious what's your way of deciding which star is bigger than another? Twitter follower? Debut week sales? News exposure? |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 11, 2015 21:59:29 GMT -5
What??????????!!! Holy smokes!!!! I'm a GOLD MEMBER now!!!!! No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 2:30:53 GMT -5
The Eminem remix of The Hills will count towards the total sales of The Hills right? If so, it looks like 5-6 weeks at #1 is a sure thing for the song
I would like Ariana to get her first number one, but moreover I really want Hotline Bling to reach #1 (please release that video soon, Drake!) so I really hope one doesn't prevent the other...
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Oct 12, 2015 4:18:26 GMT -5
What??????????!!! Holy smokes!!!! I'm a GOLD MEMBER now!!!!! No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you make triple post often is too easy to be gold member xD |
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Post by Future Captain on Oct 12, 2015 4:22:29 GMT -5
What??????????!!! Holy smokes!!!! I'm a GOLD MEMBER now!!!!! No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you make triple post often is too easy to be gold member xD Even easier to get a warning as well  |
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Post by velaxti on Oct 12, 2015 6:00:16 GMT -5
^ Ariana may not be THAT big of a star (i.e. Justin Bieber/One Direction big), but her songs always go high on iTunes immediately after release. For example The Way, Baby I, Problem, etc. Not sure about #1 but her new single will have a high debut I reckon. She should probably try and release the week before the Hotline Bling video comes out. I'm curious what's your way of deciding which star is bigger than another? Twitter follower? Debut week sales? News exposure? Just real life experiences tbh. It might vary depending on where you are in the world, for example Ariana is less successful in most other countries than she is in the US. Also, I think the fact that Justin Bieber and One Direction have been famous since around 2010, compared to Ariana since 2013 makes a difference too. In a lot of the world Ariana Grande is a 1-hit wonder to a 3-hit wonder who got famous a year ago (although I personally knew her since The Way, many people didn't until Problem). I don't think she's comparable to Justin Bieber or One Direction lol. She more comparable to Meghan Trainor or Iggy Azalea (which isn't a bad thing of course!). However, I've followed her in the US since her debut single. Her songs DO tend to sell very well on release week. #1 is possible with a radio deal and music video release, but not certain. |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Oct 12, 2015 9:02:11 GMT -5
Mediabase 10/12/15
1. THE WEEKND - The Hills: 179.514 (+ 0.567)
2. R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 155.647 (- 0.242)
3. TAYLOR SWIFT - Wildest Dreams: 151.897 (+ 2.415)
4. JUSTIN BIEBER - What Do You Mean?: 139.142 (+ 1.749) ▲
5. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 136.486 (- 1.706) ▼
6. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 117.416 (- 2.190)
7. DRAKE - Hotline Bling: 109.457 (+ 3.767)
8. SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 101.989 (+ 2.096) ▲
9. SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 100.896 (- 2.024) ▼
10. X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 97.521 (+ 0.901)
11. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MØ & DJ Snake: 90.720 (- 1.112)
12. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 83.282 (- 1.001)
13. ELLE KING - Ex's and Oh's: 77.688 (+ 1.475)
14. FETTY WAP - 679 f/Remy Boyz...: 72.887 (+ 0.698)
15. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 66.751 (- 0.148) ▲
16. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 66.744 (- 0.603) ▼
17. BRETT ELDREDGE - Lose My Mind: 66.530 (- 0.293)
18. LUKE BRYAN - Strip It Down: 64.337 (+ 0.611) ▲
19. OMI - Cheerleader: 62.433 (- 1.873) ▼
20. KENNY CHESNEY - Save It For A Rainy Day: 61.681 (- 1.394)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 58.019 (+ 0.602)
ONE DIRECTION - Drag Me Down: 57.001 (+ 0.527)
CHASE RICE - Gonna Wanna Tonight: 55.545 (+ 0.805)
COLE SWINDELL - Let Me See Ya Girl: 51.557 (+ 0.144)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Smoke Break: 51.082 (+ 0.215)
ELLIE GOULDING - On My Mind: 47.978 (+ 1.595)
ALESSIA CARA - Here: 47.547 (+ 1.584)
MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 45.386 (+ 0.953)
BLAKE SHELTON - Gonna: 44.661 (- 0.105)
CALVIN HARRIS + DISCIPLES - How Deep Is Your Love: 42.947 (+ 0.341)
NICK JONAS - Levels: 37.357 (- 0.129)
SELENA GOMEZ - Same Old Love: 27.513 (+ 1.182)
MAJOR LAZER - Powerful f/Ellie Goulding: 26.083 (- 0.030)
MAROON 5 - Feelings: 18.873 (+ 0.483)
RUDIMENTAL - Lay It All On Me f/Ed Sheeran: 16.638 (+ 0.927)
DEMI LOVATO - Confident: 14.299 (+ 2.054)
THOMAS RHETT - Die A Happy Man: 12.883 (+ 1.116)
RACHEL PLATTEN - Stand By You: 11.293 (+ 0.253)
CHRIS BROWN - Zero: 6.267 (+ 0.040)
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Post by born on Oct 12, 2015 9:09:07 GMT -5
Should we be expecting a Top 5 peak for 'Wildest Dreams' or 'Stiches' over the next few weeks? I really want WD to hit the top 5 (my fav from 1989 along with 'Style') and it's doing well on sales (surprisingly so) and radio. Bad streaming numbers tho. 'Stitches' is doing great too, I'm so glad he's finally having some single-success :)
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 12, 2015 13:15:31 GMT -5
Should we be expecting a Top 5 peak for 'Wildest Dreams' or 'Stiches' over the next few weeks? I really want WD to hit the top 5 (my fav from 1989 along with 'Style') and it's doing well on sales (surprisingly so) and radio. Bad streaming numbers tho. 'Stitches' is doing great too, I'm so glad he's finally having some single-success :) No, we shouldn't.. Cuz' I'm not a princess, this ain't fairy tale. And it's too late for your white horse to catch me now~ |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Oct 12, 2015 13:20:08 GMT -5
From chart news:
Thinking Out Loud by @edsheeran becomes the 1st song to reach 500 million streams on @spotify.
That well explains why I never want to use Spotify.
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Post by kanimal on Oct 12, 2015 13:25:35 GMT -5
The draft link went up; as expected "The Hills" is still #1, while "Hotline Bling" moves up to #2.
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Post by Kurt on Oct 12, 2015 13:40:43 GMT -5
38. Same Old Love
3?. Like I'm Gonna Lose You
23. On My Mind
21. Drag Me Down
14. Downtown
10. Good For You
9. Wildest Dreams (greatest gainer in airplay)
8. Stitches
7. Locked Away
6. Can't Feel My Face
5. 679
4. Watch Me
3. What Do You Mean?
2. Hotline Bling
1. The Hills
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Post by Dylan :) on Oct 12, 2015 13:42:12 GMT -5
#38 Selena Gomez - Same Old Love
#? Meghan Trainor & John Legend - Like I'm Gonna Lose You (I missed it :( )
#23 Ellie Goulding - On My Mind
#22 One Direction - Drag Me Down (Bullet)
#14 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Downtown
#10 Selena Gomez feat. A$AP Rocky - Good For You
#9 Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams (Airplay Gainer)
#8 Shawn Mendes - Stitches
#7 R. City feat. Adam Levine - Locked Away
#6 The Weeknd - Can't Feel My Face
#5 Fetty Wap - 679
#4 Silento - Watch Me
#3 Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean? (#1 on pop)
#2 Drake - Hotline Bling
#1 The Weeknd - The Hills
Demi's Confident #26 on CHR
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Post by wjr15 on Oct 12, 2015 13:45:35 GMT -5
Hopefully Confident keeps up those great radio updates!!!
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 12, 2015 13:50:56 GMT -5
From chart news: Thinking Out Loud by @edsheeran becomes the 1st song to reach 500 million streams on @spotify. That well explains why I never want to use Spotify. Ummm... The idea of spotify is that you can listen to whatever you want. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Oct 12, 2015 14:02:38 GMT -5
Did anyone hear where Like I'm Gonna Lose You is? My stream froze just before they said the number ._.
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Post by House Lannister on Oct 12, 2015 14:02:43 GMT -5
Should we be expecting a Top 5 peak for 'Wildest Dreams' or 'Stiches' over the next few weeks? I really want WD to hit the top 5 (my fav from 1989 along with 'Style') and it's doing well on sales (surprisingly so) and radio. Bad streaming numbers tho. 'Stitches' is doing great too, I'm so glad he's finally having some single-success :) I think Wildest Dreams could peak in the top 5. Once Silento finally starts to drop and Fetty fades, Taylor could ascend to say 4 or 5. But I think that's its peak now. Can't see it reaching the top. Stitches will probably peak no higher than 6 or 7 and that's if he gets some momentum at the same time some songs ahead of Stitches loses theirs. |
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