Billboard Hot 100: 01/30/2016

[felipe]

I was quite into Adele during her last two eras, but I'm just not clicking with 25. Songs like Hello sound extremely silly to me, Adele is now a married woman with a young kid singing about ex-boyfriends and calling someone a thousand times.

[Deleted]

Can someone nicely explain how ITN might be going up rapidly this week? I haven't had much time to observe the main components this week, did sales finally pick up again or is it a spike in popularity? Only reason I ask is because it was struggling for a time after it started off strong.

[damazz09]

Jan 18, 2016 12:38:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

I was quite into Adele during her last two eras, but I'm just not clicking with 25. Songs like Hello sound extremely silly to me, Adele is now a married woman with a young kid singing about ex-boyfriends and calling someone a thousand times.

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Jan 18, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5 damazz09 said:

Jan 18, 2016 12:38:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

I was quite into Adele during her last two eras, but I'm just not clicking with 25. Songs like Hello sound extremely silly to me, Adele is now a married woman with a young kid singing about ex-boyfriends and calling someone a thousand times.

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

Along those lines, remember the album is called '25' and she was 27.5 when it was released. So theoretically she is referring to May 2013-May 2014 - so she'd only been a mum and with her current guy for a much shorter period. '25' is not her present, but a period of her past - at least that has been my interpretation based on her interviews.

[Deleted]

Jan 18, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5 damazz09 said:

Jan 18, 2016 12:38:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

I was quite into Adele during her last two eras, but I'm just not clicking with 25. Songs like Hello sound extremely silly to me, Adele is now a married woman with a young kid singing about ex-boyfriends and calling someone a thousand times.

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

Agreed damazz.  To each their own, but I'm hard pressed to think of any pop music artist who sings solely about their current life and situations.  It seems like it's typically a mix of past and present and a decent amount of fluff in between (for many, lyrics are written by someone else entirely).  The notion that one should stop writing songs about heartbreaks (past and present) because we are happily partnered with a child confounds me, personally.  People change, lives change, but we don't just forget our past and the things that made us feel certain types of ways throughout our lives. And we don't just live in a happiness-only zone.  All of this being said, I don't have a problem with someone writing a song from a non-personal perspective, either.... it doesn't necessarily mean the lyric is any less genuine just because it isn't derived from one's own life.  This conversation could veer into what is considered "age appropriate", which in general I don't buy into either.  It's all in the ears of the beholder though, so again, to each their own.

It's inevitable that once someone reaches the stratosphere of popularity, there's going to be some who put them under a microscope in ways that we might not for less successful artists.  Backlash is a term that may describe this to varying degrees.

[jenglisbe]

Jan 18, 2016 9:21:48 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Jan 17, 2016 23:45:52 GMT -5 Juanca said:

The 1991 chart is quite interesting in terms of second hits of often wrongly considered one-hit-wonders...

Namely Will To Power's 2nd single. Don't even remember it.

It's a remake of the 10cc song (which I love). So, their two top 10 hits were remakes of 3 songs.

[carreramd]

Jan 18, 2016 12:17:07 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

My Predictions for 1/30 chart:
1. Sorry (=)
2. Hello (=)
3. Love Yourself (=)
4. Stressed Out (+1)
5. Hotline Bling (-1)
6. Same Old Love (=)
7. Stitches (=)
8. Roses (+5)
9. Here (=)
10. What Do You Mean? (-2)
11. In The Night (+5)
12. Jumpman (=)
13. Like I'm Gonna Lose You (-3)
14. The Hills (-3)
15. White Iverson (-1)
16. Don't (+1)
17. Antidote (+2)
18. I Know What You Did Last Summer (+4)
19. On My Mind (-4)
20. 679 (-2)
21. Wildest Dreams (=)
22. Ex's And Oh's (-2)
23. Cake By The Ocean (+3)
24. Die A Happy Man (-1)
25. Can't Feel My Face (-1)
26. Confident (-1)
27. Me Myself & I (+2)
28. Say It (+2)
29. Watch Me (-2)
30. Perfect (-2)
31. When We Were Young (+10)
32. Stand By You (+6)
33. Down In The DM (+6)
34. Hide Away (-1)
35. My House (-3)
36. Lean On (-5)
37. Trap Queen (-2) [This will be the last week of this song :( :( :( :( :( I HATE THIS RECURRENT RULE!!!!!!! UGH!]
38. Break Up In A Small Town (-4)
39. One Call Away (-2)
40. No Role Modelz (=)

Our Top 20 Prediction is almost the same!!! I totally agree.

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Jan 18, 2016 12:17:07 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

My Predictions for 1/30 chart:
1. Sorry (=)
2. Hello (=)
3. Love Yourself (=)
4. Stressed Out (+1)
5. Hotline Bling (-1)
6. Same Old Love (=)
7. Stitches (=)
8. Roses (+5)
9. Here (=)
10. What Do You Mean? (-2)
11. In The Night (+5)
12. Jumpman (=)
13. Like I'm Gonna Lose You (-3)
14. The Hills (-3)
15. White Iverson (-1)
16. Don't (+1)
17. Antidote (+2)
18. I Know What You Did Last Summer (+4)
19. On My Mind (-4)
20. 679 (-2)
21. Wildest Dreams (=)
22. Ex's And Oh's (-2)
23. Cake By The Ocean (+3)
24. Die A Happy Man (-1)
25. Can't Feel My Face (-1)
26. Confident (-1)
27. Me Myself & I (+2)
28. Say It (+2)
29. Watch Me (-2)
30. Perfect (-2)
31. When We Were Young (+10)
32. Stand By You (+6)
33. Down In The DM (+6)
34. Hide Away (-1)
35. My House (-3)
36. Lean On (-5)
37. Trap Queen (-2) [This will be the last week of this song :( :( :( :( :( I HATE THIS RECURRENT RULE!!!!!!! UGH!]
38. Break Up In A Small Town (-4)
39. One Call Away (-2)
40. No Role Modelz (=)

I think Me Myself & I goes top 25 and higher, and there's no way My House drops.. but other than that its solid.

[Deleted]

Is the chart delayed because of MLK day?

[Gary]

chart preview tomorrow, charts posted Wednesday

[DJ General]

Jan 18, 2016 13:21:28 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Jan 18, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5 damazz09 said:

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

Along those lines, remember the album is called '25' and she was 27.5 when it was released. So theoretically she is referring to May 2013-May 2014 - so she'd only been a mum and with her current guy for a much shorter period. '25' is not her present, but a period of her past - at least that has been my interpretation based on her interviews.

exactly.

[Deleted]

Jan 18, 2016 14:34:52 GMT -5 carreramd said:

Jan 18, 2016 12:17:07 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

My Predictions for 1/30 chart:
1. Sorry (=)
2. Hello (=)
3. Love Yourself (=)
4. Stressed Out (+1)
5. Hotline Bling (-1)
6. Same Old Love (=)
7. Stitches (=)
8. Roses (+5)
9. Here (=)
10. What Do You Mean? (-2)
11. In The Night (+5)
12. Jumpman (=)
13. Like I'm Gonna Lose You (-3)
14. The Hills (-3)
15. White Iverson (-1)
16. Don't (+1)
17. Antidote (+2)
18. I Know What You Did Last Summer (+4)
19. On My Mind (-4)
20. 679 (-2)
21. Wildest Dreams (=)
22. Ex's And Oh's (-2)
23. Cake By The Ocean (+3)
24. Die A Happy Man (-1)
25. Can't Feel My Face (-1)
26. Confident (-1)
27. Me Myself & I (+2)
28. Say It (+2)
29. Watch Me (-2)
30. Perfect (-2)
31. When We Were Young (+10)
32. Stand By You (+6)
33. Down In The DM (+6)
34. Hide Away (-1)
35. My House (-3)
36. Lean On (-5)
37. Trap Queen (-2) [This will be the last week of this song :( :( :( :( :( I HATE THIS RECURRENT RULE!!!!!!! UGH!]
38. Break Up In A Small Town (-4)
39. One Call Away (-2)
40. No Role Modelz (=)

Our Top 20 Prediction is almost the same!!! I totally agree.

I hope that you're wrong and Same Old Love is #5

[MTSChart21]

Jan 18, 2016 17:10:16 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I hope that you're wrong and Same Old Love is #5

Unfortunately, I don't see it happening

[Glove Slap]

Only on Pulse can you shatter virtually all existing time sensitive sales records worldwide and be experiencing backlash.

25 has a theme: It's about growing a bit older and being nostalgic for simpler days. In that sense, it's different from the past 2 as they were each about a relationship. It's an extremely basic and simple concept, but it is one that many relate to. Granted the flipside is that if that theme isn't something close or sensitive for you, it'll affect how you personally experience the album.

I personally am not one to be overly nostalgic and see some of my best days in the past, so the majority of 25 just goes by me thematically, but that doesn't mean that one can't objectively deduce what it's going for.

[Ravi]

Jan 19, 2016 0:52:00 GMT -5 MTSChart21 said:

Jan 18, 2016 17:10:16 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

I hope that you're wrong and Same Old Love is #5

Unfortunately, I don't see it happening

I think it will be pretty close

Revised predictions:

Rank - Song - Sales - Airplay - Streams = Points

1 - Sorry - 95 - 145 - 20.0 = 44,600
2 - Hello - 100 - 155 - 16.0 = 41,600
3 - Love Yourself - 150 - 95 - 16.0 = 39,800
4 - Stressed Out - 125 - 90 - 10.0 = 30,500
5-7- Hotline Bling - 40 - 80 - 11.0 = 23,600
5-7- Here - 40 - 125 - 7.0 = 23,600
5-7- Same Old Love - 50 - 120 - 6.5 = 23,400

Even Here may rebound and grab the #5 spot...... too close to call!

[felipe]

Jan 18, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5 damazz09 said:

Jan 18, 2016 12:38:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

I was quite into Adele during her last two eras, but I'm just not clicking with 25. Songs like Hello sound extremely silly to me, Adele is now a married woman with a young kid singing about ex-boyfriends and calling someone a thousand times.

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

Yeah, but the album is called 25, so it gives the impression these are songs about her life and her feelings around that time. So she had a newborn baby and a steady partner but her thoughts were on the ex-boyfriend she called a thousand times, on his new girl and stuff like that? Either she's really good at holding grudges or she chose to stick to the formula that had made her successful in the past, with these supposedly personal songs about failed relantionships.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 19, 2016 9:58:12 GMT -5 felipe said:

Jan 18, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5 damazz09 said:

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

Yeah, but the album is called 25, so it gives the impression these are songs about her life and her feelings around that time. So she had a newborn baby and a steady partner but her thoughts were on the ex-boyfriend she called a thousand times, on his new girl and stuff like that? Either she's really good at holding grudges or she chose to stick to the formula that had made her successful in the past, with these supposedly personal songs about failed relantionships.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you've never been in a relationship and you're also probably not creative or artistically minded.

[felipe]

Jan 19, 2016 1:23:26 GMT -5 Glove Slap said:

Only on Pulse can you shatter virtually all existing time sensitive sales records worldwide and be experiencing backlash.

I'm just pointing out some things that bother me about the album, it's hardly a backlash. And the album has like 75 on Metacritic, so it's not like it's a masterpiece just because it sold millions.

What do you guys think? Do you find Hello or WWWY as good as the singles from the previous album?

[carreramd]

Jan 19, 2016 10:12:32 GMT -5 felipe said:

Jan 19, 2016 1:23:26 GMT -5 Glove Slap said:

Only on Pulse can you shatter virtually all existing time sensitive sales records worldwide and be experiencing backlash.

I'm just pointing out some things that bother me about the album, it's hardly a backlash. And the album has like 75 on Metacritic, so it's not like it's a masterpiece just because it sold millions.

What do you guys think? Do you find Hello or WWWY as good as the singles from the previous album?

But 21 and 25 have the same score on Metacritic.

[felipe]

Jan 19, 2016 10:05:16 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Jan 19, 2016 9:58:12 GMT -5 felipe said:

Yeah, but the album is called 25, so it gives the impression these are songs about her life and her feelings around that time. So she had a newborn baby and a steady partner but her thoughts were on the ex-boyfriend she called a thousand times, on his new girl and stuff like that? Either she's really good at holding grudges or she chose to stick to the formula that had made her successful in the past, with these supposedly personal songs about failed relantionships.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you've never been in a relationship and you're also probably not creative or artistically minded.

I'm actually 30 and married. But if I were to write an album I don't think it'd be about my ex-girlfriends.
Then again, I have nothing against non-personal songs if that's Adele's case. But with an album called "25" and being marketed as personal, it really seems like it's supposed to reflect her life and feelings around that time. Like she was calling the guy a thousand times when she was 25, not that she was reminiscing about that when she was 25. But it's clear people here didn't interpret it that way.

[badrobot]

^ "Hello" is honestly a really creepy song. She's basically a crazy ex-girlfriend. But frankly I don't think people really pay much attention to lyrical detail.

[Deleted]

Guys, "Hello" is NOT about ex-boyfriends, it's about her family and friends, look it up, she says it herself.

this is what I found about the song and it's concept:

Lyrically, the song focuses on themes of nostalgia and regret and plays out like a conversation. The song was noted for containing themes of regret and was seen as a follow-up to her single "Someone like You" appearing to reflect on a failed relationship. The songs lyrics were also seen as being conversational, revolving around "all the relationships of her past", ranging from friends, family members and ex partners. Speaking on the song's lyrical content, Adele told Nick Grimshaw on the BBC Radio 1 Breakfast Show: "I felt all of us were moving on, and it's not about an ex-relationship, a love relationship, it's about my relationship with everyone that I love. It's not that we have fallen out, we've all got our lives going on and I needed to write that song so they would all hear it, because I'm not in touch with them." According to Adele, the line "Hello from the other side" signifies "the other side of becoming an adult, making it out alive from your late teens, early twenties."

[Caviar]

Finally some truth...

[Deleted]

Everyone can interpret things in their own way - that's the cool thing about well-written lyrics. That said, songwriters sometimes find ways to forego discussing specific subject matter by replacing it with something more general/broad when discussing their seemingly personal lyrics. I'm not saying Adele is necessarily doing this, but I am saying that it's possible. Even the video has its own take on the lyric - one that mirrors the way I would think most people interpret the lyrics - as they seem to me to be rather pointed toward a specific ex-lover whose heart she broke and is apologizing/reconciling ... like a letter never sent type of thing to try and bring closure for herself.  The reverse could very well be true - that she's actually writing it to everyone as she said in that interview and disguised it as implying it's about an ex-lover which makes it a little more accessible/relatable for many, i'm sure.

I personally prefer songwriters to let songs/lyrics speak for themselves rather than justify or explain what they mean or who they are written about. While I may be curious at times, I'd ultimately rather paint my own picture and relate to it in my own way (or not, in some cases).  Maybe reveal it many years down the road, a la Carly Simon finally copping to You're So Vain being written about David Geffen after decades of speculation and theories.

[missgenericnickname]

This maybe me being dumb,but does anyone know why the chart is delayed coming out?

[kanimal]

Jan 19, 2016 11:54:41 GMT -5 missgenericnickname said:

This maybe me being dumb,but does anyone know why the chart is delayed coming out?

Yesterday was Martin Luther King Day, which was an off day for Billboard.  They're doing the chart article today and the full set of charts tomorrow.

MLK Day doesn't seem to be as big of a work holiday as it used to be, but the music industry publications generally don't issue charts on these sorts of Monday holidays.  Country Aircheck/Mediabase also didn't issue anything yesterday.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

how the hell is gangnam style still getting 2 million views a week?

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Jan 18, 2016 12:38:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

I was quite into Adele during her last two eras, but I'm just not clicking with 25. Songs like Hello sound extremely silly to me, Adele is now a married woman with a young kid singing about ex-boyfriends and calling someone a thousand times.

So what should she sing about? Watching Downton Abbey and changing her kids nappies?

[missgenericnickname]

Jan 19, 2016 11:56:28 GMT -5 kanimal said:

Jan 19, 2016 11:54:41 GMT -5 missgenericnickname said:

This maybe me being dumb,but does anyone know why the chart is delayed coming out?

Yesterday was Martin Luther King Day, which was an off day for Billboard.  They're doing the chart article today and the full set of charts tomorrow.

MLK Day doesn't seem to be as big of a work holiday as it used to be, but the music industry publications generally don't issue charts on these sorts of Monday holidays.  Country Aircheck/Mediabase also didn't issue anything yesterday.

Alright thank you  :)

[Linnethia Monique]

Jan 19, 2016 9:58:12 GMT -5 felipe said:

Jan 18, 2016 13:02:00 GMT -5 damazz09 said:

Adele isn't married but she has been with the same guy since 2011. Even though she is happily together with this guy and has a baby, that doesn't mean old feelings come up every once in a while. It's only human to feel that way. And just because she doesn't feel this way about an ex now, it doesn't mean that she didn't feel about him at that time. For example, I have been in a long term relationship for a long time now yet I can remember exactly how my first breakup made me feel or how it felt like to reconnect with them after the end of it. I think it's raw and honest of Adele to sing a song like Hello even though her life is different now.

Yeah, but the album is called 25, so it gives the impression these are songs about her life and her feelings around that time. So she had a newborn baby and a steady partner but her thoughts were on the ex-boyfriend she called a thousand times, on his new girl and stuff like that? Either she's really good at holding grudges or she chose to stick to the formula that had made her successful in the past, with these supposedly personal songs about failed relantionships.

I take it "Hello" and "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)" are the only two songs off the album that you have listened to and you chose to ignore the other themes that included her son ("Remedy" and "Sweetest Devotion"), celebrity ("Million Years Ago"), her current relationship ("I Miss You" and "Water Under the Bridge") and reminiscing about people from all walks of your past ("When We Were Young").