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Post by Dylan :) on Mar 7, 2016 14:53:49 GMT -5
I actually wonder if Hands To Myself will reach the top 10 again (#15 this week)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 14:54:47 GMT -5
I guess it's not impossible for Hello to potentially move back up next week and still nail down #9 and/or #10. Not likely, but possible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 14:56:17 GMT -5
God I want that Danish so badly...it looks so delicious!
14 was dead on too! :/
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Post by MTSChart21 on Mar 7, 2016 14:57:58 GMT -5
I shouldn't have changed my prediction between 7 and 8 -_-
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Post by Ravi on Mar 7, 2016 15:00:18 GMT -5
I guess it's not impossible for Hello to potentially move back up next week and still nail down #9 and/or #10. Not likely, but possible. #9 is out of the question, that will be Cake By The Ocean. For #10 it will be close between Hello and ITAPII. 50/50 I'd say at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 15:02:03 GMT -5
Interesting factoid from this week's highlights:
Rihanna is the only artist to have notched Hot 100 No. 1s from seven consecutive studio albums.
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Post by Ravi on Mar 7, 2016 15:10:42 GMT -5
Via Periscope Live Stream: 10. Cake By The Ocean 9. 7 Years 8. Piece By Piece (thought it would be higher...) As I thought, even 4M streaming for PBP was optimistic....... and the Airplay was only 5M. Didn't really stand a chance at Top-5 debut. Glad to see CBTO managed to hang around in Top-10..... it must have been really close. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 15:23:00 GMT -5
Interesting factoid from this week's highlights: Rihanna is the only artist to have notched Hot 100 No. 1s from seven consecutive studio albums. Would've been 8 if Pon De Replay hadn't missed #1 (I think it would at least) :'( |
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Post by carreramd on Mar 7, 2016 15:44:28 GMT -5
Will Til It Happens To You debut this week?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 15:46:51 GMT -5
Will Til It Happens To You debut this week? With streaming and airplay added in it's possible it'll have a low-end debut... but not based on sales alone. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 16:22:02 GMT -5
^ it's already successful regardless of what position it ends up on the charts. but that doesn't answer my question, I was asking if it will chart higher based on iTunes or what people have been seeing on other charts and numbers. |
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Post by Zach on Mar 7, 2016 17:47:29 GMT -5
Darn, I was kinda hoping 5H would get their first top 10 single, because it's quite likely this will be its peak at the end of the day. They don't make my kind of music but my brain continuously roots for them for some reason. 7 Years though  |
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Post by Dylan :) on Mar 7, 2016 18:02:26 GMT -5
I think Gaga did, they mentioned in the Periscope to listen to the Pop Shop Podcast to hear a big star debut
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Post by leredlum on Mar 7, 2016 18:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 18:14:30 GMT -5
I think Gaga did, they mentioned in the Periscope to listen to the Pop Shop Podcast to hear a big star debut Perhaps they were possibly referring to Taylor Swift? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 18:24:55 GMT -5
I think Gaga did, they mentioned in the Periscope to listen to the Pop Shop Podcast to hear a big star debut Perhaps they were possibly referring to Taylor Swift? no, in the Periscope live stream they explicitly said that New Romantics has not yet debuted (as well as Company), so it's definitely not her. |
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 7, 2016 19:11:02 GMT -5
It sometimes goes down for a few days or so then comes back. Hoping Fifth Harmony will be able to climb into the top 10 in the future. The song's airplay is rising fast and staying really stable on iTunes. Great to see Kelly Clarkson get another top 10 hit! Fingers crossed it'll stick around for a while and notch up good sales for both it and the album.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 19:12:04 GMT -5
Good week for movements.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 19:39:39 GMT -5
well, thanks nobody for answering my question. Guess I'll have to rely on tomorrow's chart for an answer.
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 7, 2016 19:41:21 GMT -5
well, thanks nobody for answering my question. Guess I'll have to rely on tomorrow's chart for an answer. I didn't see it, what was your question? I can try to help if I know the answer |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 19:44:28 GMT -5
Lady Gaga's Til It Happens To You debuts at #95 this week. It's her 22nd Hot 100 hit, and first since 2014's G.U.Y. debuted and peaked at #76.
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Post by ccchui on Mar 7, 2016 20:58:52 GMT -5
Just saw Billboard's article: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6898390/rihanna-hot-100-third-week-kelly-clarkson-top-10I really have big question on how they count streaming as they said in this statement about not counting Kelly's American Idol performance steaming. "The song's American Idol performance video does not contribute to its Hot 100 or Streaming Songs ranks. YouTube videos not categorized as "music" by the respective content owners are not reported by YouTube to Nielsen Music, and therefore do not contribute to Billboard's charts.".... But then why will they then count viral video that is not official video in the past then...that makes no sense to me how they count streaming and ultimately popularity of a song. |
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Post by WotUNeed on Mar 7, 2016 21:27:12 GMT -5
Just saw Billboard's article: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6898390/rihanna-hot-100-third-week-kelly-clarkson-top-10I really have big question on how they count streaming as they said in this statement about not counting Kelly's American Idol performance steaming. "The song's American Idol performance video does not contribute to its Hot 100 or Streaming Songs ranks. YouTube videos not categorized as "music" by the respective content owners are not reported by YouTube to Nielsen Music, and therefore do not contribute to Billboard's charts.".... But then why will they then count viral video that is not official video in the past then...that makes no sense to me how they count streaming and ultimately popularity of a song. There are a few things happening in that relatively short explanation. The main idea here is that Billboard isn't picking and choosing what videos should count on a case-by-case basis. They have the broad standard set that, as they are charting music, they want the numbers for all content that is deemed to be music. In a way, that's fair in the sense that the chart repercussions of having content classified as something other than music are clear and known. Billboard factors in any streaming that is reported to it; it cannot factor in numbers it does not have. I believe the part that you're struggling with is the fact that it is the "content owners" who choose how something is classified. So, as an example, if I make a wacky video lip syncing and dancing to Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby", and it goes viral, while I may be the one who made the video, I am still not an owner of the audio content, so I have no say in how that gets classified. If the content owners choose to track and monetize the plays from my video as plays of their music (as opposed to having my vid removed for copyright infringement or leaving the vid intact but having YouTube mute the sound or whatever other options they have available), then it will get reported to Nielsen and my video, if popular enough, could cause Vanilla Ice to reenter the Hot 100 on streaming. On the other hand, if I shoot a wacky national TV advertisement involving a famous actor lip syncing and dancing to Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby", and it goes viral, I would have licensed the song and already gone through and made arrangements with the content owners related to the payment for use of their music in my work. While I would still not be an owner of the song, per se, my proper licensing of it would give me say in determining how my advert as a whole, song included, was categorized on YouTube. Without trying to go too deeply into the legalities of such things (on which I am not expert), if the results of my agreements and decisions were that my work was listed on YouTube as something other than music, while the song is still being heard and the content owners are still getting paid, the numbers aren't being reported by YouTube to Nielsen Music, so Billboard has no accurate way to determine my advert's streaming figures and derive Ice's chart points. The actual specifics are far more intricate than I could explain, but that gives a rough idea of how viral, unofficial video figures can end up as part of a song's streaming numbers and professionally produced content can end up unreported. |
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Post by ccchui on Mar 7, 2016 22:21:35 GMT -5
Just saw Billboard's article: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6898390/rihanna-hot-100-third-week-kelly-clarkson-top-10I really have big question on how they count streaming as they said in this statement about not counting Kelly's American Idol performance steaming. "The song's American Idol performance video does not contribute to its Hot 100 or Streaming Songs ranks. YouTube videos not categorized as "music" by the respective content owners are not reported by YouTube to Nielsen Music, and therefore do not contribute to Billboard's charts.".... But then why will they then count viral video that is not official video in the past then...that makes no sense to me how they count streaming and ultimately popularity of a song. There are a few things happening in that relatively short explanation. The main idea here is that Billboard isn't picking and choosing what videos should count on a case-by-case basis. They have the broad standard set that, as they are charting music, they want the numbers for all content that is deemed to be music. In a way, that's fair in the sense that the chart repercussions of having content classified as something other than music are clear and known. Billboard factors in any streaming that is reported to it; it cannot factor in numbers it does not have. I believe the part that you're struggling with is the fact that it is the "content owners" who choose how something is classified. So, as an example, if I make a wacky video lip syncing and dancing to Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby", and it goes viral, while I may be the one who made the video, I am still not an owner of the audio content, so I have no say in how that gets classified. If the content owners choose to track and monetize the plays from my video as plays of their music (as opposed to having my vid removed for copyright infringement or leaving the vid intact but having YouTube mute the sound or whatever other options they have available), then it will get reported to Nielsen and my video, if popular enough, could cause Vanilla Ice to reenter the Hot 100 on streaming. On the other hand, if I shoot a wacky national TV advertisement involving a famous actor lip syncing and dancing to Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby", and it goes viral, I would have licensed the song and already gone through and made arrangements with the content owners related to the payment for use of their music in my work. While I would still not be an owner of the song, per se, my proper licensing of it would give me say in determining how my advert as a whole, song included, was categorized on YouTube. Without trying to go too deeply into the legalities of such things (on which I am not expert), if the results of my agreements and decisions were that my work was listed on YouTube as something other than music, while the song is still being heard and the content owners are still getting paid, the numbers aren't being reported by YouTube to Nielsen Music, so Billboard has no accurate way to determine my advert's streaming figures and derive Ice's chart points. The actual specifics are far more intricate than I could explain, but that gives a rough idea of how viral, unofficial video figures can end up as part of a song's streaming numbers and professionally produced content can end up unreported. Thanks! That helps me to understand what happened. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 7, 2016 22:29:43 GMT -5
well, thanks nobody for answering my question. Guess I'll have to rely on tomorrow's chart for an answer. Or that nobody actually knows where James Bay rises on the chart because that information hasn't been revealed yet, therefore you, like every other person here, will have to wait until tomorrow when the full chart gets revealed. Sheesh! |
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Post by carreramd on Mar 8, 2016 6:46:05 GMT -5
I'm so sad about Something In The Way You Move... But happy about Troye, Alessia, Zayn and Gaga. I just don't understood why New Romantics didn't debut. It was doing great on Radio and iTunes, so I was pretty sure it would be on the Top 70-80.
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Post by Mike is BAD on Mar 8, 2016 6:53:20 GMT -5
I'm so sad about Something In The Way You Move... But happy about Troye, Alessia, Zayn and Gaga. I just don't understood why New Romantics didn't debut. It was doing great on Radio and iTunes, so I was pretty sure it would be on the Top 70-80. Taylor removed her songs from Spotify (Streaming) |
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Post by carreramd on Mar 8, 2016 6:56:58 GMT -5
I'm so sad about Something In The Way You Move... But happy about Troye, Alessia, Zayn and Gaga. I just don't understood why New Romantics didn't debut. It was doing great on Radio and iTunes, so I was pretty sure it would be on the Top 70-80. Taylor removed her songs from Spotify (Streaming) Yeah, but I did the calculation and thought it would have enough points to be ahead of Lost Boy, Perfect, Til It Happens To You, Cheap Thrills... |
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Post by Mike is BAD on Mar 8, 2016 6:58:58 GMT -5
Taylor removed her songs from Spotify (Streaming) Yeah, but I did the calculation and thought it would have enough points to be ahead of Lost Boy, Perfect, Til It Happens To You, Cheap Thrills... I think that all the commotion happened later in the week |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Mar 8, 2016 8:22:37 GMT -5
My Predictions from yesterday:
✔ 1. Work (=)
✔ 2. Love Yourself (=)
✔ 3. Stressed Out (=)
✔ 4. My House (+1)
✔ 5. Sorry (-1)
✔ 6. PILLOWTALK (=)
X 7. Piece By Piece (Debut)
X 8. Me, Myself & I (-1)
✔ 9. 7 Years (+3)
X 10. Hello (-2)
X 11. Cake By The Ocean (-2)
X 12. Work From Home (Debut)
✔ 13. Roses (-3)
✔ 14. I Took A Pill In Ibiza (+1)
X 15. Hands To Myself (-4)
X 16. One Call Away (-2)
X 17. Down In The DM (-4)
X 18. Stitches (-2)
✔ 19. Don't (-2)
X 23. Back To Sleep (+13)
X 31. Never Forget You (+27)
X 47. Middle (+10)
✔ 58. YOUTH (+9)
X 61. iT's YoU (Debut)
X 75. New Romantics (Re-Entry)
I got 11/25. Pretty good, considering the fact that my predictions are always terrible.
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