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Post by forg on Sept 8, 2016 21:16:20 GMT -5
Lady GaGa had kept her profile in the public quite well despite the absence of a hit song/album with her TV show and awards show nominations / appearances but having a chart comeback won't be that easy especially with streaming such a big force now than the last time she ruled the charts. I don't think her new single will be a threat to #1 unless it sells huge ala Can't Stop The Feeling but I think the debut week sales will be like Katy Perry's Rise at best
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 21:48:21 GMT -5
Lady GaGa had kept her profile in the public quite well despite the absence of a hit song/album with her TV show and awards show nominations / appearances but having a chart comeback won't be that easy especially with streaming such a big force now than the last time she ruled the charts. I don't think her new single will be a threat to #1 unless it sells huge ala Can't Stop The Feeling but I think the debut week sales will be like Katy Perry's Rise at best what makes you think she won't do well in streaming if it's released to Spotify and YouTube/Vevo right away? In fact, I think streaming will actually HELP her chances lol. |
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Post by felipe on Sept 8, 2016 22:11:34 GMT -5
Wait... Adele didn't have a "comeback" -- that implies she had done well, then done poorly, then done well again. Releasing a successful new album after the last album was also successful is not a "comeback," that's a hot streak. If Gaga hit #1 however that would indeed be a comeback. Applause actually did pretty well but Artpop overall was a big drop in both sales and singles success ( it's easy to forget Born This Way had 4 top ten singles, same as The Fame). In a way it felt like all of Born This Way's singles underperformed, despite reaching top 10 so I can see how one could easily forget. |
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Post by josh on Sept 8, 2016 22:12:30 GMT -5
She's not going to #1 with this song.  |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Sept 8, 2016 22:13:56 GMT -5
She's not going to #1 with this song. unless the song was literally Poker Face 2.0, it wasn't happening. Closer is WAY too strong |
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Post by badrobot on Sept 8, 2016 22:37:39 GMT -5
It's no comeback single. Bummer Gaga, I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Oh well.
Who's left then? Are we definitely getting new songs from Katy and Bruno or are people just guessing that they'll release something?
Also one other dark horse... When is Lorde coming back?
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Post by forg on Sept 8, 2016 22:52:23 GMT -5
Lady GaGa had kept her profile in the public quite well despite the absence of a hit song/album with her TV show and awards show nominations / appearances but having a chart comeback won't be that easy especially with streaming such a big force now than the last time she ruled the charts. I don't think her new single will be a threat to #1 unless it sells huge ala Can't Stop The Feeling but I think the debut week sales will be like Katy Perry's Rise at best what makes you think she won't do well in streaming if it's released to Spotify and YouTube/Vevo right away? In fact, I think streaming will actually HELP her chances lol. Different era now when she was at her peak, the Spotify audience especially skews younger and urban and well if the video is controversial like in the past maybe but I dunno we'll see |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Sept 8, 2016 22:56:08 GMT -5
It's no comeback single. Bummer Gaga, I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Oh well. Who's left then? Are we definitely getting new songs from Katy and Bruno or are people just guessing that they'll release something? Also one other dark horse... When is Lorde coming back? unless Katy is content with Rise being the only single this year m, that's on her. But I'd say it's likely a legit single is coming and Bruno has actually said it's coming soon but that's pretty vague. EDIT - Well it was confirmed literally yesterday that the Bruno album is coming later this year so single in Octoberish. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 23:04:34 GMT -5
It's no comeback single. Bummer Gaga, I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Oh well. Who's left then? Are we definitely getting new songs from Katy and Bruno or are people just guessing that they'll release something? Also one other dark horse... When is Lorde coming back? unless Katy is content with Rise being the only single this year m, that's on her. But I'd say it's likely a legit single is coming and Bruno has actually said it's coming soon but that's pretty vague. EDIT - Well it was confirmed literally yesterday that the Bruno album is coming later this year so single in Octoberish. in that case, get ready for at least 5 more weeks of Closer at #1... |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Sept 8, 2016 23:16:04 GMT -5
unless Katy is content with Rise being the only single this year m, that's on her. But I'd say it's likely a legit single is coming and Bruno has actually said it's coming soon but that's pretty vague. EDIT - Well it was confirmed literally yesterday that the Bruno album is coming later this year so single in Octoberish. in that case, get ready for at least 5 more weeks of Closer at #1... well that was happening regardless lol |
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 8, 2016 23:19:30 GMT -5
It's no comeback single. Bummer Gaga, I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Oh well. Who's left then? Are we definitely getting new songs from Katy and Bruno or are people just guessing that they'll release something? Also one other dark horse... When is Lorde coming back? As posted a few posts up, yup, new Bruno by year's end. Katy will more than likely have something out soon too. We received news she was returning with an album this year back in June or July, though that may have been before deals were made for "Rise." Lorde has stated she is nearly finished with her second album. No word yet on a release date, but likely sometime November-March. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 23:22:03 GMT -5
in that case, get ready for at least 5 more weeks of Closer at #1... well that was happening regardless lol it wouldn't necessarily happen if Bruno or whoever had a big debut before then. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Sept 8, 2016 23:30:59 GMT -5
Perfect Illusion is out already? It's not even Friday yet. But wait.. Which time zone is the tracking week in? East coast?
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 8, 2016 23:42:23 GMT -5
Perfect Illusion is out already? It's not even Friday yet. But wait.. Which time zone is the tracking week in? East coast? It's Friday on the east coast. Also, all sales from 12am EST onwards count for next week regardless of location in the country. The first hour of the song's release, however, went towards this week since it came out at 11:00pm EST. |
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Post by rimetm on Sept 9, 2016 0:13:13 GMT -5
Maybe now that it has an hour of sales along with presumably some radio deal it can go for one of the top gains on the Hot 100 in a week. Obviously not the record (97-1 of My Life Would Suck Without You) but maybe in the top 10 of that particular stat.
Also, Cold Water is on sale, I just noticed. I think they're gunning to pull a Cheap Thrills while they have a chance: after all, big debuts while steal Closer's thunder like they did One Dance and the margins could be closed by the 30-40% gain these sales bring. A music video would clinch it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 2:11:38 GMT -5
Maybe now that it has an hour of sales along with presumably some radio deal it can go for one of the top gains on the Hot 100 in a week. Obviously not the record (97-1 of My Life Would Suck Without You) but maybe in the top 10 of that particular stat. Also, Cold Water is on sale, I just noticed. I think they're gunning to pull a Cheap Thrills while they have a chance: after all, big debuts while steal Closer's thunder like they did One Dance and the margins could be closed by the 30-40% gain these sales bring. A music video would clinch it. Is it even possible for Cold Water to even get close to pulling a Cheap Thrills at this point? It only worked for Cheap Thrills because One Dance was already so weak after 10 weeks at #1. They certainly wouldn't be able to pull it off while being outsold 4 to 1 and outstreamed almost 2 to 1. Discounts don't keep sales up for that long, either, looking at stuff like Treat You Better losing about half its sales this week. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 3:13:49 GMT -5
well since ravi isn't here anymore, I'll try to give some heads up like he used to (you can look in the predictions thread for details):
- Closer will have a close to 2-to-1 lead over the next-highest song this week...
- The race between Cold Water and Heathens for the #2 spot will be quite close, but CW will probably come out on top
- due to the songs above it falling hard, Send My Love (To Your New Lover) has a decent shot at reaching a new peak this week (its chart run is impressive considering its lack of streaming)
- this week Charlie Puth will probably get his first top ten as a lead artist (thankfully it's with this better song, I still can't stand One Call Away)
- there's a good chance One Dance will be out
and as a side note, this isn't for this coming week but Let Me Love You is headed for the top ten and I can see it entering it really soon (especially since it's still gaining while the songs above it, namely DLMD, Ride, TIWYCF, One Dance and Needed Me) have already peaked and are well on their way down
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Post by Mike is BAD on Sept 9, 2016 5:17:57 GMT -5
I haven't looked at iTunes yet but I'm pretty sure that Perfect Illusion is in the Top 4
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Post by Harx on Sept 9, 2016 5:24:47 GMT -5
I haven't looked at iTunes yet but I'm pretty sure that Perfect Illusion is in the Top 4 #2 right now |
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Post by Mike is BAD on Sept 9, 2016 5:30:36 GMT -5
Perfect Illusion just made my 2016 Top 20 Best List, knocking out Don't Let Me Down
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Post by feoba on Sept 9, 2016 7:41:28 GMT -5
Perfect Illusion is number 1 on Itunes right now, replacing Closer.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Sept 9, 2016 7:47:59 GMT -5
I wonder, could Closer be heading for that 16 week record at #1? Right now it has such a huge lead over everything else, and is only getting stronger. If that video comes out in a reasonable amount of time and goes viral, we could see some 70k+ weeks here. People are saying Lady Gaga could debut at #1, but I have doubts. I know it's too early to tell for sure, but after One Dance managed to stay up there for so long without as many points, I'm thinking Closer's probably got the rest of this year locked up. okay it's 3 weeks now. 16 weeks would be mid January. Let's say Katy, Gaga AND Bruno all release singles this fall/winter. It'd have to outperform all 3 and Bruno has proved to be threat on streaming. I say we start discussing it's chances when all 3 of their singles have dropped. Yeah, that, and the fact that Closer is gaining pretty quickly so it will probably peak sooner. No way it makes it to January still at #1. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Sept 9, 2016 9:25:38 GMT -5
okay it's 3 weeks now. 16 weeks would be mid January. Let's say Katy, Gaga AND Bruno all release singles this fall/winter. It'd have to outperform all 3 and Bruno has proved to be threat on streaming. I say we start discussing it's chances when all 3 of their singles have dropped. Yeah, that, and the fact that Closer is gaining pretty quickly so it will probably peak sooner. No way it makes it to January still at #1. yeah it may Prakash quickly but it's lead is so large, it might not matter for awhile. |
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 9, 2016 10:14:02 GMT -5
Yeah, that, and the fact that Closer is gaining pretty quickly so it will probably peak sooner. No way it makes it to January still at #1. yeah it may Prakash quickly but it's lead is so large, it might not matter for awhile. Prakash? I... kinda like that. It's more fun to say than peak. |
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Post by Soulsista on Sept 9, 2016 11:32:43 GMT -5
Posting this now since I'm going on vacation tomorrow.
Billboard Top 10 Flashback
September 22, 2001
01 01 I'm Real - Jennifer Lopez feat. Ja Rule (3rd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Fallin' - Alicia Keys
03 03 Where The Party At - Jagged Edge feat. Nelly
04 05 Hit 'Em Up Style (Oops!) - Blu Cantrell
05 04 Someone To Call My Lover - Janet Jackson
06 06 U Remind Me - Usher
07 08 It's Been Awhile - Staind
08 07 Let Me Blow Ya Mind - Eve feat. Gwen Stefani
09 12 Family Affair - Mary J. Blige
10 11 You Rock My World - Michael Jackson
September 23, 2006
01 01 SexyBack - Justin Timberlake (3rd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 London Bridge - Fergie
03 04 Buttons - The Pussycat Dolls feat. Snoop Dogg
04 03 Crazy - Gnarls Barkley
05 05 (When You Gonna) Give It Up To Me - Sean Paul feat. Keyshia Cole
06 07 Chasing Cars - Snow Patrol
07 08 Sexy Love - Ne-Yo
08 09 Far Away - Nickelback
09 18 Lips Of An Angel - Hinder
10 06 Promiscuous - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland
12 NE Ring The Alarm - Beyonce
15 56 Money Maker - Ludacris feat. Pharrell
September 24, 2011
01 02 Moves Like Jagger - Maroon 5 feat. Christina Aguilera (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 Someone Like You - Adele
03 03 Pumped Up Kicks - Foster The People
04 04 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & Goonrock
05 07 Lighters - Bad Meets Evil feat. Bruno Mars
06 12 Stereo Hearts - The Gym Class Heroes feat. Adam Levine
07 05 Super Bass - Nicki Minaj
08 06 You And I - Lady Gaga
09 14 How To Love - Lil Wayne
10 11 Cheers (Drink To That) - Rihanna
18 NE Mr. Know It All - Kelly Clarkson
September 26, 2015
01 02 Can't Feel My Face - The Weeknd (3rd and final week at #1)
02 03 The Hills - The Weeknd
03 01 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
04 04 Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) - Silento
05 05 Cheerleader - OMI
06 06 Lean On - Major Lazer x DJ Snake feat. MØ
07 07 Good For You - Selena Gomez feat. A$AP Rocky
08 08 679 - Fetty Wap feat. Remy Boyz
09 09 Locked Away - R. City feat. Adam Levine
10 12 Photograph - Ed Sheeran
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Post by Soulsista on Sept 9, 2016 11:45:17 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
September 26, 1981
01 01 Endless Love - Diana Ross & Lionel Richie (7th of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Queen Of Hearts - Juice Newton
03 03 Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Stevie Nicks w/Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
04 04 Urgent - Foreigner
05 05 (There's) No Gettin' Over Me - Ronnie Milsap
06 06 Who's Crying Now - Journey
07 07 Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do) - Christopher Cross
08 09 Step By Step - Eddie Rabbitt
09 08 Lady (You Bring Me Up) - The Commodores
10 11 Start Me Up - The Rolling Stones
September 27, 1986
01 01 Stuck With You - Huey Lewis & The News (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 03 Friends & Lovers - Gloria Loring & Carl Anderson
03 02 Dancing On The Ceiling - Lionel Richie
04 06 Walk This Way - Run-DMC feat. Aerosmith
05 08 Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone) - Glass Tiger
06 09 Dreamtime - Daryl Hall
07 14 When I Think Of You - Janet Jackson
08 15 Two Of Hearts - Stacey Q
09 04 Take My Breath Away - Berlin
10 11 Love Zone - Billy Ocean
September 28, 1991
01 01 I Adore Mi Amor - Color Me Badd (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Good Vibrations - Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch feat. Loleatta Holloway
03 03 Motownphilly - Boyz II Men
04 11 Emotions - Mariah Carey
05 09 Love Of a Lifetime - Firehouse
06 04 Things That Make You Go Hmmmm... - C&C Music Factory feat. Freedom Williams
07 07 Time, Love And Tenderness - Michael Bolton
08 16 Do Anything - Natural Selection
09 14 Something To Talk About - Bonnie Raitt
10 13 Shiny Happy People - R.E.M.
September 21, 1996
01 01 Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio (8th of 14 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Love You Always Forever - Donna Lewis
03 03 Twisted - Keith Sweat
04 07 It's All Coming Back To Me Now - Celine Dion
05 06 C'Mon N' Ride It (The Train) - The Quad City DJ's
06 05 Change The World - Eric Clapton
07 04 Loungin' - LL Cool J feat. Total
08 08 You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton
09 10 You Learn / You Oughta Know - Alanis Morissette
10 09 I Can't Sleep Baby (If I) - R. Kelly
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Post by Soulsista on Sept 9, 2016 12:00:56 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
September 18, 1961 (For the week ending September 23)
01 02 Take Good Care Of My Baby - Bobby Vee (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Michael - The Highwaymen
03 03 My True Story - The Jive Five
04 22 (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame - Elvis Presley
05 11 Crying - Roy Orbison
06 07 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor - Lonnie Donegan
07 14 Without You - Johnny Tillotson
08 06 Wooden Heart - Joe Dowell
09 29 One Track Mind - Bobby Lewis
10 13 When We Get Married - The Dreamlovers
September 24, 1966
01 04 Cherish - The Association (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes
03 03 Sunshine Superman - Donovan
04 02 Yellow Submarine - The Beatles
05 05 Bus Stop - The Hollies
06 11 Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - The Temptations
07 18 Black Is Black - Los Bravos
08 25 96 Tears - ? & The Mysterians
09 08 Wouldn't It Be Nice - The Beach Boys
10 26 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops
September 25, 1971
01 01 Go Away Little Girl - Donny Osmond (3rd and final week at #1)
02 04 Maggie May / Reason To Believe - Rod Stewart
03 03 Ain't No Sunshine - Bill Withers
04 08 The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down - Joan Baez
05 02 Spanish Harlem - Aretha Franklin
06 05 Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey - Paul & Linda McCartney
07 06 Smiling Faces Sometimes - The Undisputed Truth
08 12 Superstar - The Carpenters
09 10 Whatcha See Is Whatcha Get - The Dramatics
10 07 I Just Want To Celebrate - Rare Earth
September 25, 1976
01 01 Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 03 I'd Really Love To See You Tonight - England Dan & John Ford Coley
03 04 A Fifth Of Beethoven - Walter Murphy & The Big Apple Band
04 02 (Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
05 06 Lowdown - Boz Scaggs
06 07 Devil Woman - Cliff Richard
07 08 Summer - War
08 09 If You Leave Me Now - Chicago
09 13 Disco Duck (Part 1) - Rick Dees & His Cast Of Idiots
10 05 You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine - Lou Rawls
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Post by atg on Sept 9, 2016 14:34:37 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 9, 2016 14:41:20 GMT -5
The last iTunes update was red. "Closer" is still selling at 71% of "Perfect Illusion." It's not like it's completely taken over like "Born This Way" did. Total worldwide YouTube views are currently at 1,560,936. If it keeps at that rate, we're looking at its first day being around 2.4 million, which actually isn't even inside the top 20.  Decent numbers, sure, but definitely not the massive comeback some were touting. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:46:02 GMT -5
the iTunes tells me it does, but the less than 2M worldwide views in 15 hours tells me it does not. But I guess we could be seeing at least a top 10 debut a la Judas and Dope |
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