Billboard Hot 100: 10/15/2016

[Leo ✔]

Oct 3, 2016 15:11:12 GMT -5 taylor said:

Which songs do you think are at #12 and #14? It must either Needed Me, Ride or Too Good?

or One Dance tho

[Bigfatliar 3]

Oct 3, 2016 15:12:08 GMT -5 Leo ✔ said:

Oct 3, 2016 15:11:12 GMT -5 taylor said:

Which songs do you think are at #12 and #14? It must either Needed Me, Ride or Too Good?

or One Dance tho

or Send My Love 

[taylor]

Oct 3, 2016 15:17:14 GMT -5 Bigfatliar 3 said:

Oct 3, 2016 15:12:08 GMT -5 Leo ✔ said:

or One Dance tho

or Send My Love 

It could be One Dance but I don't think it could be Send My Love. It's falling relatively fast.

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Oct 3, 2016 15:11:12 GMT -5 taylor said:

Which songs do you think are at #12 and #14? It must either Needed Me, Ride or Too Good?

probably Ride #12 and NM #14

[atg]

Ik someone else posted this too but I do it on Youtube on the countdown vid (basically my opinions on this)


1. ➡ Closer (No Surprise there)
2. ➡ Heathens (Still Holding On)
3. ⬆ Starboy (Let this be #1 please but I don't think so *cough* Bruno mars)
4. ⬇ Cold Water (It's going down too soon)
5. ⬇ Let me Love you (Just went down cause of starboy
6. ➡ Treat you Better (Holding on cause of the album release)
7. ⬇ Cheap Thrills (Just naturally going down)
8. ➡ Broccoli (Expect this to stay for a whIle
9. ⬇ Don't Let Me Down (Also naturally leaving)
10. ➡ This is what you came for (Expect this to go down next week)

Outside The Top 10 (All I Know):
11. ⬇ We Don't Talk Anymore  (This is just bouncing up and down)
13. ⬆️ I Hate You, I Love You (This could make top 10)
15. ⬆️ Gold (I'm pretty sure it could reach the top 10 too)
19.➡ Side To Side (Rise already)
23. ⬇Into You (Still holding on)
24. ⬆ Starving (Yes hopefully it can reach top 10)
34 ⬇ Forever Country (I feel like this will stay a bit)
35. ⬇ No Limit (Great Song)
63. ⬆(DEBUT) This Town (We'll see if this can be at least a top 20)
59. ⬇ Perfect Illusion  (RIP)
X. ⬇⬇⬇ Make Me (Flopping even below the H100)

[Old-school 72]

There are so many new songs out, I don't get why so many of the same artists have 2 songs within the top 40. The charts are so boring.

[taylor]

Nick Jonas' Bacon hasn't even debuted yet on the Hot 100 and it's already done at Pop. I didn't believe it had chart potential, anyway. Maybe Under You will have better luck if released as a single.

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I don't think Starving will reach the top 10. Though maybe the video will help it at least a bit now. It's actually doing quite well on iTunes and Spotify (way better than I ever expected). I honestly will be satisfied if it at least makes the top 20 or perhaps 15. I'm glad it already outpeaked Love Myself (I like that song a lot but I prefer Starving and I'm happy about her increased success).

[Az Paynter]

The charts reflect what's popular. If you don't like what's popular well tough. I don't care about 'Let Me Love You' but I'd certainly be happy if 'Starving' goes top 10.

[Az Paynter]

Well sorry there's not enough variety on the chart for you. I guess people just don't have diverse enough tastes for your liking...

[Az Paynter]

First off, calm down. Second off, I've seen enough 'I want the charts to revolve around me' type posts over the past few months to find the whole idea utterly eyeroll-worthy.

[Az Paynter]

[taylor]

It sucks that Gold didn't jump ahead of One Dance. The latter song remained steady for a second week. Could Gold be looking for a spot in the Top 10 next week?

[taylor]

Oct 4, 2016 4:31:56 GMT -5 Harx said:

I don't want Starving to reach top 10. It's decent but I don't want it to peak any higher than top 20 for the same reason I despise "Let me love you". It's such a typical 2016 song. I am just sick and tired of all the EDM cliches of 2016.

Half of current top 10 is EDM for crying out loud, and only one of these songs hasn't burned on me (TIWYCF). All I hope for is something different right now.

Gold is a great alternative.

[divasummer]

LoL, at posts being deleted.

[Bigfatliar 3]

Oct 4, 2016 11:33:49 GMT -5 divasummer said:

LoL, at posts being deleted.

He needs some time, i hope he is okay tho :)

[lyhom]

I missed it fuck lmao

[Harx]

Guys... please don't. Let's not go there. I got carried away. There's no reason to find it funny. I am sorry. This wasn't a show. Please, let's forget about this and respect each other. Thank you.

[Az Paynter]

IDK what to do with my own posts now lol. :(

[bigbertha]

Oct 4, 2016 16:16:23 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

IDK what to do with my own posts now lol. :(

I came into this thread thinking you were just arguing with yourself lol

[truemusicreviews]

I must be the only one that's not fond of "Gold".

[felipe]

Oct 3, 2016 12:36:40 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Oct 3, 2016 11:07:34 GMT -5 @clayton said:

I think he's in a different place than he was then commercially.  While sales are generally lower now, true, there's significant hype for him this time around after Uptown Funk, and his audience demo has grown significantly.

A lot of it will depend on the song itself, too... but if he delivers, I think he can do it easily.

I didn't realize the sales for "LOOH" were that low, but I do agree Bruno's status has increased tremendously since then. You mentioned the Super Bowl (twice) and "Uptown Funk," but in general his second album did better than his debut. He's also been away for a bit, so presumably there is some hype for his return whereas last time there wasn't as long of a gap.

But, yeah, of course a lot will depend on the quality of the single as well. It will be interesting, at any rate.

First week is more about hype than actual quality. First week it's people streaming/downloading the song to hear what it sounds like, even if their reactions turns out to be negative. That's why it's not uncommon to see tracks - specially by big acts - that'll debut high and then free fall never to be seen again.

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Oct 4, 2016 18:41:48 GMT -5 truemusicreviews said:

I must be the only one that's not fond of "Gold".

you're not, I'm not huge on it either (though I don't mind it, I just don't care for it to make the top ten)

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Oct 4, 2016 19:27:38 GMT -5 felipe said:

Oct 3, 2016 12:36:40 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I didn't realize the sales for "LOOH" were that low, but I do agree Bruno's status has increased tremendously since then. You mentioned the Super Bowl (twice) and "Uptown Funk," but in general his second album did better than his debut. He's also been away for a bit, so presumably there is some hype for his return whereas last time there wasn't as long of a gap.

But, yeah, of course a lot will depend on the quality of the single as well. It will be interesting, at any rate.

First week is more about hype than actual quality. First week it's people streaming/downloading the song to hear what it sounds like, even if their reactions turns out to be negative. That's why it's not uncommon to see tracks - specially by big acts - that'll debut high and then free fall never to be seen again.

I don't disagree with what you're saying in general terms, but I do think quality plays a role when it comes to debuting at #1, specifically... especially these days with the metrics including streaming.  Sure, lots of songs have solid debuts off of hype alone and then tumble down with the quickness.  But when's the last time a song debuted at #1 and then failed to be a solid hit?  Aside from those few American Idol winners' songs, there aren't ANY that didn't make a decent impact outside of #1 on the Hot 100.  I'm guessing someone might suggest "Hold It Against Me", but even that wound up top 60 on the year and also sold 1.6 million copies, so hardly a free fall.

Point being, I don't think a song can debut at #1 without people actually liking it these days.  It requires a TON of genuine interest, not just hype.. and there is a difference, imo.

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Oct 4, 2016 19:56:22 GMT -5 @clayton said:

Oct 4, 2016 19:27:38 GMT -5 felipe said:

First week is more about hype than actual quality. First week it's people streaming/downloading the song to hear what it sounds like, even if their reactions turns out to be negative. That's why it's not uncommon to see tracks - specially by big acts - that'll debut high and then free fall never to be seen again.

I don't disagree with what you're saying in general terms, but I do think quality plays a role when it comes to debuting at #1, specifically... especially these days with the metrics including streaming.  Sure, lots of songs have solid debuts off of hype alone and then tumble down with the quickness.  But when's the last time a song debuted at #1 and then failed to be a solid hit?  Aside from those few American Idol winners' songs, there aren't ANY that didn't make a decent impact outside of #1 on the Hot 100.  I'm guessing someone might suggest "Hold It Against Me", but even that wound up top 60 on the year and also sold 1.6 million copies, so hardly a free fall.

Point being, I don't think a song can debut at #1 without people actually liking it these days.  It requires a TON of genuine interest, not just hype.. and there is a difference, imo.

two words: Harlem Shake

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Oct 4, 2016 20:00:41 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

Oct 4, 2016 19:56:22 GMT -5 @clayton said:

I don't disagree with what you're saying in general terms, but I do think quality plays a role when it comes to debuting at #1, specifically... especially these days with the metrics including streaming.  Sure, lots of songs have solid debuts off of hype alone and then tumble down with the quickness.  But when's the last time a song debuted at #1 and then failed to be a solid hit?  Aside from those few American Idol winners' songs, there aren't ANY that didn't make a decent impact outside of #1 on the Hot 100.  I'm guessing someone might suggest "Hold It Against Me", but even that wound up top 60 on the year and also sold 1.6 million copies, so hardly a free fall.

Point being, I don't think a song can debut at #1 without people actually liking it these days.  It requires a TON of genuine interest, not just hype.. and there is a difference, imo.

two words: Harlem Shake

It may have been a flukey #1 hit when streaming was introduced, but it didn't debut high first week off hype and then plummet.  It stayed there for 5 weeks and ended up year end top 5 and went platinum in actual sales.

Aside from all that, this is about artists who have significant hype building up their their new era's first singles in most cases.  It takes more than hype, or at least that's what history has proven thus far.

[areyoureadytojump]

www.yahoo.com/music/chart-watch-shawn-mendes-dominates-with-illuminate-223856303.html

Chart Watch: Shawn Mendes Dominates With 'Illuminate'
by Paul Grein
October 3, 2016

Top Songs

The Chainsmokers’ “Closer” (featuring Halsey) tops the Hot 100 for the seventh straight week. That’s the longest run at #1 by any duo so far in this decade. It tops LMFAO’s “Party Rock Anthem” (featuring Lauren Bennett & GoonRock) and Macklemore & Ryan Lewis’s “Thrift Shop” (featuring Wanz), both of which logged six weeks at #1.

What were the longest-running #1 hits by duos in previous decades? Glad you asked.

For the ’50s, it was Les Paul and Mary Ford’s “Vaya Con Dios (May God Be with You),” which logged 11 weeks at #1 in 1953. For the ’60s, it was Zager & Evans’s “In the Year 2525” (six weeks in 1969). For the ’70s, it was Simon & Garfunkel’s “Bridge Over Troubled Water” (six weeks in 1970). For the ’80s, it was Daryl Hall & John Oates’s “Maneater” (four weeks in 1982-83). For the ’90s, it was Los Del Rio’s “Macarena” (14 weeks in 1996). For the ’00s, it was Outkast’s “Hey Ya!” (nine weeks in 2003-04).

(The Fine Print: I’m not counting collaborations of two solo artists who normally record separately. I’m also looking only at lead artists. A little-known duo, the Product G&B, was featured on Santana’s “Maria Maria,” which logged 10 weeks at #1 in 2000.)

“Closer” also heads Top Digital Songs for the eighth week (with sales of 137K this week).

twenty one pilots’ “Heathens” holds at #2 in its 15th week.

The Weeknd’s “Starboy” (featuring Daft Punk) vaults from #40 to #3 in its second week. It’s the Weeknd’s fifth top 10 hit; Daft Punk’s second. Both artists are collaboration veterans. The Weeknd’s first visit to the top 10 was as the featured artist on Ariana Grande’s “Love Me Harder.” Daft Punk’s previous top 10 hit was “Get Lucky” (with Pharrell Williams). “Starboy” is the first single (and title track) from the Weeknd’s third studio album, which is due Nov. 25. The song also moves up to #1 on Billboard‘s Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, displacing D.R.A.M.’s “Broccoli” (featuring Lil Yachty). It’s the Weeknd’s fourth #1 R&B hit; Daft Punk’s first.

Major Lazer’s “Cold Water” (featuring Justin Bieber and MØ) dips from #3 to #4 its 10th week.

DJ Snake’s “Let Me Love You” (also featuring Bieber) dips from #4 to #5 in its eighth week.

As noted above, Shawn Mendes’s “Treat You Better” holds at #6 in its 17th week.

Sia’s “Cheap Thrills” (featuring Sean Paul) drops from #5 to #7 in its 33rd week.

D.R.A.M.’s “Broccoli” (featuring Lil Yachty) holds at #8 in its 16th week.

The Chainsmokers’ previous hit, “Don’t Let Me Down” (featuring Daya), drops from #7 to #9 in its 33rd week.

Calvin Harris’s “This Is What You Came For” (featuring Rihanna) holds at #10 in its 22nd week.

Charlie Puth’s “We Don’t Talk Anymore” (featuring Selena Gomez) drops out of the top 10 this week.

Gnash’s “I Hate You, I Love You” (featuring Olivia O’Brien) jumps from #19 to #13 in its 24th week. A Prince song titled “I Hate U” reached #12 in 1995. Three songs titled “I Love You” have made the top 20 over the years (by a group called People in 1968, Climax Blues Band in 1981, and Faith Evans in 2002).

Kiiara’s “Gold” jumps from #16 to #15 in its 19th week. John Stewart (formerly of the Kingston Trio) had a #5 hit with a different song by the same title in August 1979.

Niall Horan’s first solo single, “This Town,” is the week’s top new entry at #63. As a member of One Direction, Horan landed six top 10 hits between 2012-15. The new single, a gentle ballad, is similar in tone to 1D’s “Perfect,” which reached #10. Horan is the first current member of that boy band to land a solo hit. Former member Zayn debuted at #1 in February with “Pillowtalk.” “This Town” starts with just one day each of sales and streaming data and four days of airplay data. Expect it to soar next week, following its first full week of tracking.

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Oct 4, 2016 20:02:57 GMT -5 @clayton said:

Oct 4, 2016 20:00:41 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

two words: Harlem Shake

It may have been a fluke hit when streaming was introduced, but it didn't debut high first week and then plummet.  It stayed there for 5 weeks and ended up year end top 5 and went platinum in sales.

yeah but you mentioned a debut off of hype alone and that was exactly what happened. And all those streams from dance videos made the song so massive during those few weeks that it was relevant which was why it was that high on the year-end chart.

[rimetm]

Two more words: formula change. Yes, the meme blew up fast regardless, but I'm not sure it would've actually debuted at number one if the inclusion of YouTube had been enacted a month or so earlier.

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Oct 4, 2016 20:12:35 GMT -5 rimetm said:

Two more words: formula change. Yes, the meme blew up fast regardless, but I'm not sure it would've actually debuted at number one if the inclusion of YouTube had been enacted a month or so earlier.

 
Exactly. People will argue the smallest things. LOL. There hasn't been a case of a song debuting at #1 that didn't end up being a decent to huge hit, Harlem Shake included, Idol winners excluded.  Argue it if you want, but HS's 5 weeks at #1, 20 weeks on the Hot 100, a year end top 5, and over a million in actual sales all beg to differ.

Of course it's possible that Bruno's new song will be utter crap and debut and #1 and then fall off in less than 10 weeks, but i'm willing to bet anyone $5000 that won't happen. That's all I was trying to say.  If it does debut at #1, it will be a big hit with longevity.  Quality and genuine interest in the song itself do matter when it comes to #1 debuts these days, outside of flukey formula changes.