Billboard Hot 100: 10/15/2016

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2016 15:11:08 GMT -5 atg said:

Next #1 predictions
- Niall Horan - This Town (We'll see how this run works)
- The Chainsmokers - All We Know (This could either be a follow up to closer or flop)
- The Weeknd - Starboy (U guys knew this was coming. It has potential to be #1)
- twenty one pilots - Heathens (After their snl performance this might have enough power otherwise not a chance)
- Bruno Mars - ? (Of course it will be #1 unless it is another rise and make me)
- DJ Snake - Let me Love You ft. Justin Bieber (This is gaining fast do we're gonna have to see about this)

Honestly, I'm not sure any of those really have a chance right now besides a new Bruno single.  Right now Closer has, what, 65k weekly points?  Enough so that a new debut would probably need a 400k+ sales week, as well as around 35-40 million streams or more if they're not already high on airplay.  Maybe more.  Maybe not as much for Starboy since that has some airplay behind it, but even that song has a long way to go.  I imagine This Town will have similar numbers to Pillowtalk's first week, which was enough to dethrone Love Yourself's 40k-ish points, but not enough to beat Closer.  I can't imagine Let Me Love You getting even close either, at the rate it's going.  I guess All We Know could do it if it brings Closer down upon release, but I doubt that will happen.  As for Heathens, it would need pretty huge boosts as well, because right now it's not even close.

[Au$tin]

Sept 29, 2016 15:49:18 GMT -5 carreramd said:

Today is thursday and The Chainsmokers, The Weeknd, Niall Horan and Cashmere Cat/Selena Gomez has released songs. There's any reason for them not waited until tomorrow?

It's already Friday in other parts of the world.

[jenglisbe]

"Starboy" doesn't even have 6 million views yet?!?!

[Harx]

So what's the prediction for This Town? Top 10 debut and huge collapse following week?

[atg]

Sept 29, 2016 16:47:13 GMT -5 Harx said:

So what's the prediction for This Town? Top 10 debut and huge collapse following week?

It could be a perfect illusion (see what I did there)

[feoba]

How long do ya'll predict Broccoli to stay in the top 10? I don't wanna see that thing rise anymore 😂😂

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Sept 29, 2016 16:52:42 GMT -5 feoba said:

How long do ya'll predict Broccoli to stay in the top 10? I don't wanna see that thing rise anymore 😂😂

at least five weeks, it's radio is still rising

[85la]

Sept 29, 2016 16:26:44 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 29, 2016 15:49:18 GMT -5 carreramd said:

Today is thursday and The Chainsmokers, The Weeknd, Niall Horan and Cashmere Cat/Selena Gomez has released songs. There's any reason for them not waited until tomorrow?

It's already Friday in other parts of the world.

So are all singles that are released Friday released right at the time the first country strikes 12:00am Friday for the whole world? How does it work exactly?

[Au$tin]

Sept 29, 2016 21:43:05 GMT -5 85la said:

Sept 29, 2016 16:26:44 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

It's already Friday in other parts of the world.

So are all singles that are released Friday released right at the time the first country strikes 12:00am Friday for the whole world? How does it work exactly?

It's different single to single, but for smaller artists, that's exactly how it works. It goes on sale on iTunes at midnight in that country (or first time zone in that country if the country has more than one). Some artists will hold out until midnight on the east of the US, though.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Sept 29, 2016 10:37:57 GMT -5 skizzo said:

Sept 28, 2016 19:50:58 GMT -5 Libra said:

Indeed, I do think it is not particularly good form to post Radio & Records Pop chart flashbacks in the Hot 100 thread, particularly when Billboard has their own Top 40 Mainstream chart with which to do that.

I will say that by sheer coincidence, the posted 2003 chart happens to match the 10/18/2003 Billboard Mainstream chart exactly. 2004 does not match any Billboard chart, however, and at that point I stopped checking.

I'm using the Mediabase charts.

2004 matches perfectly popradiotop20.com/POP/2004/2004-10-08.htm

I'm not gonna be posting random flashbacks in the pop forum, this thread seemed most appropriate to me since airplay is posted here and its not the Hot 100 either. Anyway, if it bugs 1 user that much (something I've been posting for years on the Hot 100 thread but only now people seem to have a problem with it), I wont be posting it anymore.

For people who like it, you can catch the retros on the ATRL US airplay thrad.

I always enjoyed the retro posts. Despite not being technically hot 100 retro, they were never intrusive in any way. Do keep them!

[Leo ✔]

I'm agree with Rose. It's cool to see retros, I can remember some great songs I didn't hear in years :)
Keep doing pls!!

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Sept 29, 2016 18:17:10 GMT -5 jtd Thee Stallion said:

Sept 29, 2016 16:52:42 GMT -5 feoba said:

How long do ya'll predict Broccoli to stay in the top 10? I don't wanna see that thing rise anymore 😂😂

at least five weeks, it's radio is still rising

and now it's on sale lol

[MTSChart21]

Credit to: www.kworb.net/airadio

Songs with *** dropped or added a format so their updates are completely incorrect

[feoba]

Ahh, Closer's number 1 in airplay!

[jayhawk1117]

With that airplay lead and an eventual MV, Starboy ain't a threat.

[areyoureadytojump]

hitsdailydouble.com/streaming_songs

Friday, September 30, 2016

NEW CHART: TOP 50 STREAMED SONGS

HITS’ newest chart has just been updated. The Top 50 Streamed Songs Chart, powered by BuzzAngle Music, which made its debut a week ago, joins the Songs Plus Streaming (SPS) and Album Sales charts, each of which turns over every Friday for the week ending the previous day. How do we do it so fast? Simple—it's magic. Click here to access it.

Like its companions, the Top 50 Streamed Songs Chart zeroes in on where the action is in today’s music biz. With an ever-increasing number of fans doing their listening via on-demand streaming, this chart functions as the modern-day equivalent of the traditional singles chart—it’s where today’s hits live long and prosperous lives.

Streaming Songs Chart

Chart Date: 09/29/2019
Status: Final

LW TW Artist / Album Label Streams % Change

1 1
THE CHAINSMOKERS
CLOSER
COLUMBIA 21,707,032 -2%
-- 2
THE WEEKND
STARBOY
XO/REPUBLIC 19,402,796 --
3 3
D.R.A.M.
BROCCOLI
WAVE RECORDINGS/EMPIRE 10,260,446 -1%
2 4
MAJOR LAZER
COLD WATER
MAD DECENT/DEF JAM 10,187,421 -8%
5 5
DJ SNAKE
LET ME LOVE YOU
DEF JAM/INTERSCOPE 9,590,921 -1%
4 6 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
HEATHENS
FUELED BY RAMEN 9,201,907 -8%
6 7 DRAKE
ONE DANCE
YMCMB/REPUBLIC 8,521,600 -8%
7 8 DRAKE
TOO GOOD
YMCMB/REPUBLIC 8,110,857 -6%
8 9 RIHANNA
NEEDED ME
WESTBURY ROAD/ROC NATION 7,300,252 -5%
10 10 ARIANA GRANDE
SIDE TO SIDE
REPUBLIC 7,260,832 1%
9 11 THE CHAINSMOKERS
DON'T LET ME DOWN
COLUMBIA 7,238,524 -3%
11 12 ROB $TONE
CHILL BILL
RCA 6,930,481 2%
13 13 HAILEE STEINFELD & GREY
STARVING
REPUBLIC 6,494,243 2%
20 14 SHAWN MENDES
TREAT YOU BETTER
ISLAND 6,206,616 6%
12 15 DRAKE
CONTROLLA
YMCMB/REPUBLIC 6,066,451 -5%
21 16 CALVIN HARRIS
MY WAY
COLUMBIA 5,881,904 4%
16 17 YOUNG THUG & TRAVIS SCOTT
PICK UP THE PHONE
EPIC 5,835,647 -2%
18 18 CALVIN HARRIS
THIS IS WHAT YOU CAME FOR
COLUMBIA 5,745,120 -2%
17 19 CHANCE THE RAPPER
NO PROBLEM
CHANCE THE RAPPER 5,721,551 -3%
14 20 TWENTY ONE PILOTS
RIDE
FUELED BY RAMEN 5,643,069 -8%
15 21 KHALIFA, WAYNE, DRAGONS
SUCKER FOR PAIN
WMG 5,537,638 -7%
23 22 GNASH
I HATE U, I LOVE U
WMG 5,388,032 -2%
25 23 SIA
THE GREATEST
MONKEY PUZZLE/RCA 5,349,474 -1%
19 24 ARIANA GRANDE
INTO YOU
REPUBLIC 5,259,481 -10%
26 25 SIA
CHEAP THRILLS
MONKEY PUZZLE/RCA 5,206,012 -4%
27 26 MARTIN GARRIX, BEBE REXHA
IN THE NAME OF LOVE
RCA 5,182,474 -2%
24 27 TORY LANEZ
LUV
INTERSCOPE 5,159,497 -6%
22 28 CHARLIE PUTH
WE DON'T TALK ANYMORE
WMG 5,133,137 -8%
34 29 21 SAVAGE & METRO BOOMIN
X
SLAUGHTER GANG 5,058,614 7%
40 30 YOUNG M.A
OOOUUU
M.A. MUSIC 5,030,137 21%
35 31 AMINE
CAROLINE
REPUBLIC 4,943,592 11%
29 32 DESIIGNER
TIIMMY TURNER
DEF JAM 4,816,075 -6%
30 33 KIIARA
GOLD
WMG 4,810,122 -4%
28 34 FLUME
NEVER BE LIKE YOU
MOM & POP 4,768,236 -9%
31 35 COLDPLAY
HYMN FOR THE WEEKEND
PARLOPHONE 4,715,378 -5%
-- 36 SHAWN MENDES
MERCY
ISLAND 4,613,611 --
33 37 MARC E. BASSY
YOU & ME
REPUBLIC 4,554,612 -3%
36 38 TRAVI$ SCOTT
GOOSEBUMPS
EPIC 4,513,710 2%
-- 39 RAE SREMMURD
BLACK BEATLES (FEAT. GUCCI MANE)
EARDRUMA/INTERSCOPE 4,510,850 --
32 40 DJ KHALED
FOR FREE
EPIC 4,439,826 -9%
39 41 KUNGS & COOKIN' ON 3 BURNERS
THIS GIRL (KUNGS VS COOKIN' ON 3 BURNERS)
REPUBLIC 4,198,202 -3%
37 42 LIL UZI VERT
MONEY LONGER
WMG 4,130,165 -6%
43 43 ALESSIA CARA
SCARS TO YOUR BEAUTIFUL
DEF JAM 4,078,329 3%
38 44 DESIIGNER
PANDA
DEF JAM 4,041,819 -7%
44 45 FUTURE
LOW LIFE
EPIC 3,967,497 0%
42 46 ADELE
SEND MY LOVE (TO YOUR NEW LOVER)
XL/COLUMBIA 3,770,332 -5%
45 47 KANYE WEST
FATHER STRETCH MY HANDS PT. 1
G.O.O.D./DEF JAM 3,694,502 -5%
47 48 DRAKE
STILL HERE
YMCMB/REPUBLIC 3,662,806 -3%
41 49 FIFTH HARMONY
ALL IN MY HEAD (FLEX)
EPIC 3,581,711 -12%
50 50 DRAKE
CHILDS PLAY
YMCMB/REPUBLIC 3,520,165 -4%

[badrobot]

Unless I'm overlooking something, "Closer" looks set to be the first song to simultaneously score a 1-1-1 hat-trick across digital, airplay, and streaming since "Hello."

[jtd Thee Stallion]

Looks like Starboy is gonna go top 3..

[bigbertha]

Sept 30, 2016 9:57:49 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

With that airplay lead and an eventual MV, Starboy ain't a threat.

Unless the MV is simply incredible, I really don't think it will have much of an effect. The Lyric video is already huge, so if people like the video then they will just switch over to that, and if they don't then the lyric video will just continue to do huge numbers.

[atg]

At least the 8 day effect on starboy wasn't that effective unlike PI

[jarhys]

Did Cold Water just peak on airplay??

[jayhawk1117]

Sept 30, 2016 11:12:23 GMT -5 bigbertha said:

Sept 30, 2016 9:57:49 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

With that airplay lead and an eventual MV, Starboy ain't a threat.

Unless the MV is simply incredible, I really don't think it will have much of an effect. The Lyric video is already huge, so if people like the video then they will just switch over to that, and if they don't then the lyric video will just continue to do huge numbers.

any amount points will help it stay at 1

[Deleted]

Sept 30, 2016 11:12:23 GMT -5 bigbertha said:

Sept 30, 2016 9:57:49 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

With that airplay lead and an eventual MV, Starboy ain't a threat.

Unless the MV is simply incredible, I really don't think it will have much of an effect. The Lyric video is already huge, so if people like the video then they will just switch over to that, and if they don't then the lyric video will just continue to do huge numbers.

yes but a new Closer video for YouTubers will prolong Closer's high streaming numbers. People will be tired of the lyric video before they're tired of an official clip.

[jenglisbe]

Sept 29, 2016 21:55:57 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 29, 2016 21:43:05 GMT -5 85la said:

So are all singles that are released Friday released right at the time the first country strikes 12:00am Friday for the whole world? How does it work exactly?

It's different single to single, but for smaller artists, that's exactly how it works. It goes on sale on iTunes at midnight in that country (or first time zone in that country if the country has more than one). Some artists will hold out until midnight on the east of the US, though.

Well, and I can't believe they would lose that many downloads waiting until Friday in the U.S. Niall could have had a great debut if all sales were in the same week, but this odd release will hurt it. I can't believe it happened last week with Weeknd and now this week, too. I guess it shows they don't all care about the Hot 100 like we do. Lol.

[Mike is BAD]

Sept 30, 2016 12:26:23 GMT -5 jarhys said:

Did Cold Water just peak on airplay??

Yes, I think it did. It's been falling on Pop and slowing on Hot AC

[atg]

Sept 30, 2016 12:26:23 GMT -5 jarhys said:

Did Cold Water just peak on airplay??

Yeah and I'm pretty sure in sales too. Rip

[MTSChart21]

Credit to: www.kworb.net/airadio

Songs with *** dropped or added a format so their updates are completely incorrect

[georgetherunner314]

Predictions:

Rank	Song	Sales	Airplay	Streams	Points
1	Closer	150	140	36.5	61,100
2	Heathens	80	105	20.0	36,100
3/4	Starboy	105	55	18.0	32,200
3/4	Cold Water	40	120	18.5	31,900
5	Let Me Love You	50	85	14.5	26,100
6	Treat You Better	35	115	10.0	23,700
7	Cheap Thrills	30	120	9.0	22,800
8	Broccoli	30	40	18.0	22,300
9	Don't Let Me Down	25	70	13.0	20,100
10	We Don't Talk Anymore	45	60	10.0	19,300
11	This Is What You Came For	15	85	10.5	18,900

Notes:

• Starboy's 18M stream estimate could be a bit off which is why I've put it at 3/4. Also, its airplay figure may be higher as MTS pointed out to me; the rest of the top 10 is pretty straightforward.
• Just outside, Gold should pull off a significant jump to somewhere between 12 and 14, dependent upon how fast Ride falls and how much of a boost One Dance gets from the Apple Music movie exclusive. I currently have Gold at #13.
• Too Good's top 10 chances are pretty much done now that it is falling on radio... unless the movie exclusive can boost it although I don't know if it's even included as I haven't watched it. If someone else can assure this, that'd be great.

[Deleted]

that is a hell of an update for Starboy considering it's after the 8th-day effect :O
I haven't seen those kinds of updates post-8th-day-effect since...Hello

[jayhawk1117]

And after only 2 days, Closer is number one again. RIP This Town's chances at 1.