jenglisbe
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 4, 2016 21:43:30 GMT -5
I didn't realize the sales for "LOOH" were that low, but I do agree Bruno's status has increased tremendously since then. You mentioned the Super Bowl (twice) and "Uptown Funk," but in general his second album did better than his debut. He's also been away for a bit, so presumably there is some hype for his return whereas last time there wasn't as long of a gap. But, yeah, of course a lot will depend on the quality of the single as well. It will be interesting, at any rate. First week is more about hype than actual quality. First week it's people streaming/downloading the song to hear what it sounds like, even if their reactions turns out to be negative. That's why it's not uncommon to see tracks - specially by big acts - that'll debut high and then free fall never to be seen again. Maybe the first day or two is hype, but I don't think the first week...otherwise "Perfect Illusion" would have been at the top longer. |
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Post by truemusicreviews on Oct 4, 2016 22:17:35 GMT -5
Quality has everything to do with staying power; "Perfect Illusion", "Make Me", nor "Rise" got good reception from fans and critics alike. That's why all of these songs flopped.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 5, 2016 8:29:15 GMT -5
Quality has everything to do with staying power; "Perfect Illusion", "Make Me", nor "Rise" got good reception from fans and critics alike. That's why all of these songs flopped. Uh... "Make Me" got great reception. |
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Post by felipe on Oct 5, 2016 15:02:15 GMT -5
First week is more about hype than actual quality. First week it's people streaming/downloading the song to hear what it sounds like, even if their reactions turns out to be negative. That's why it's not uncommon to see tracks - specially by big acts - that'll debut high and then free fall never to be seen again. Maybe the first day or two is hype, but I don't think the first week...otherwise "Perfect Illusion" would have been at the top longer. But Perfect Illusion didn't have enough hype, that's the point. Fans who anticipated the song bought the song either way regardless of quality. There were just not enough people interested in it to keep it at the top for a week. Same goes for Make Me - which was actually well received, but then again not enough hype. |
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Post by felipe on Oct 5, 2016 15:15:03 GMT -5
Two more words: formula change. Yes, the meme blew up fast regardless, but I'm not sure it would've actually debuted at number one if the inclusion of YouTube had been enacted a month or so earlier. Exactly. People will argue the smallest things. LOL. There hasn't been a case of a song debuting at #1 that didn't end up being a decent to huge hit, Harlem Shake included, Idol winners excluded. Argue it if you want, but HS's 5 weeks at #1, 20 weeks on the Hot 100, a year end top 5, and over a million in actual sales all beg to differ. Of course it's possible that Bruno's new song will be utter crap and debut and #1 and then fall off in less than 10 weeks, but i'm willing to bet anyone $5000 that won't happen. That's all I was trying to say. If it does debut at #1, it will be a big hit with longevity. Quality and genuine interest in the song itself do matter when it comes to #1 debuts these days, outside of flukey formula changes. I do get your point, but when it comes to charts it becomes difficult to assert hiw many people actually like a song. You mentioned Hold it against me, for instance. It debuted at #1 and become a decent-sized hit. Do people love the song? Did a lot of people really like the song at the time. We do know that after a song hits #1, and specially if it debuts at #1, that is highly publicized everywhere and many people become interested in the song because they want to hear what this new #1 sounds like, and that alone generates more streaming, more sales, which also generate more airplay, which means more people will listen to the song countless times on radio and find themselves enjoying it. My point: just the fact of the song debuting at #1 raises its status exponentially, that's why we don't see songs that debut at #1 and "turn out" to be flukes. And we all know many people start "liking" the song after it becomes a hit. And how many times have you heard somebody saying "I didn't like this song at first, but I hear it all the time on radio and it's growing on me"? One's perception of quality can be changed according to a song's hype or popularity. That's why I don't agree with "It'll only be a hit if it's good" mentality. Bad songs also hit #1 if they are sold properly. |
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