Billboard Hot 100: 11/26/2016 (Black Beatles #1!)

[scrohr424]

^ And yet Want To Want Me is still here. The fact that Hello and Sorry left so long ago yet this one from early 2015 hasn't? I swear, seriously, it gets weirder every week.

(Please note that this is not a diss towards the song, I just find its presence absolutely perplexing.)

[flextamcsignals]

Nov 12, 2016 21:55:13 GMT -5 scrohr424 said:

^ And yet Want To Want Me is still here. The fact that Hello and Sorry left so long ago yet this one from early 2015 hasn't? I swear, seriously, it gets weirder every week.

(Please note that this is not a diss towards the song, I just find its presence absolutely perplexing.)

It's probably why all of his singles since (Cheyenne, Get Ugly, If It Ain't Love) have flopped.

[atg]

^ I heard it earlier today. Idk why they like it so much

[Enigma.]

Nov 12, 2016 19:15:33 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I heard "Candle in the Wind" on the replay countdown today. It's amazing how well its sales held up; who was still buying the song months after Diana's death? More so, why then? I just don't remember.

I think the fact that Something About the Way You Look Tonight was a huge success on airplay also helped

[Deleted]

Nov 12, 2016 10:05:06 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I don't see why people think "24K" is going to battle for #1 when its streaming is so relatively poor.

I did say a couple weeks ago that I thought 24k Magic would be #1, but now I feel foolish for saying that because even I realize that it's not gonna happen unless it gets a really big boost.

[Deleted]

just because it's not being played on pop radio doesn't mean it's not having an impact lol. Also the MC videos with BB in playing aren't counting towards its streaming right? Only the official music video?

[Dylan :)]

I actually haven't seen the MC much either. The main place I see it is on Twitter and do those streams even count? The Harlem Shake was on YouTube so it benefited from those streams a lot. I hope once the MC challenge dies down in two/three weeks (unless a new Christmas edition comes along to keep it alive for the holidays), the song does too.

Also, I remember Cool Kids was also deleted from iTunes (which usually floated around #9 - #15) and that returned to its usual position after a day or two

[scrohr424]

Nov 12, 2016 10:05:06 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

I don't see why people think "24K" is going to battle for #1 when its streaming is so relatively poor.

As already said...there's still the album release next week, which is expected to sell quite well, and the streaming is sure to gain a boost from that.

But yeah, if that doesn't get it to #1, nothing will.

[elementd5]

Nov 13, 2016 4:54:21 GMT -5 @markg94 said:

just because it's not being played on pop radio doesn't mean it's not having an impact lol. Also the MC videos with BB in playing aren't counting towards its streaming right? Only the official music video?

This. Urban audiences are all over the MC, which probably means young audiences generally, because it's "in." I see one of my students/students at my school doing it every single day. That huge impact alone, on a national scale, is what's propelling BB.

Plus, twitter is dead. Instagram/SnapChat is where it's at.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 12, 2016 20:53:00 GMT -5 Libra said:

"Black Beatles" just does not feel like a song pushing its way to #1 at all, the raw data notwithstanding. Literally the only places I see mention of it and/or this so-called "mannequin challenge" anywhere are here in these Hot 100 threads - if those truly had the broad impact that they're apparently supposed to have, I'd have to think that some, any kind of mention would eventually turn up somewhere on social media that I could see. That simply hasn't happened.

Not sure what you look at/watch, but I've seen it all over. From social media to ESPN covering teams doing it to of course Clinton doing it the week of the election, it has been all over in my experience. That's why we shouldn't use a singular experience to represent a very broad one.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

November 20, 1961 (For the week ending November 25)

01 01 Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean (3rd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Runaround Sue - Dion
03 03 Fool #1 - Brenda Lee
04 12 Goodbye Cruel World - James Darren
05 04 Bristol Stomp - The Dovells
06 05 Tower Of Strength - Gene McDaniels
07 06 Hit The Road, Jack - Ray Charles
08 09 Please Mr. Postman - The Marvelettes
09 08 This Time - Troy Shondell
10 07 The Fly - Chubby Checker


November 26, 1966

01 01 You Keep Me Hangin' On - The Supremes (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys
03 03 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band
04 06 Devil With a Blue Dress On & Good Golly Miss Molly (Medley) - Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
05 05 Poor Side Of Town - Johnny Rivers
06 07 I'm Your Puppet - James & Bobby Purify
07 04 Last Train To Clarksville - The Monkees
08 11 Lady Godiva - Peter & Gordon
09 24 Mellow Yellow - Donovan
10 12 Born Free - Roger Williams


November 27, 1971

01 01 Theme From Shaft - Isaac Hayes (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves - Cher
03 04 Baby I'm-a Want You - Bread
04 05 Have You Seen Her - The Chi-Lites
05 08 Family Affair - Sly & The Family Stone
06 03 Imagine - The John Lennon Plastic Ono Band
07 09 Got To Be There - Michael Jackson
08 07 Peace Train - Cat Stevens
09 15 Rock Steady - Aretha Franklin
10 13 Desiderata - Les Crane


November 27, 1976

01 01 Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright) - Rod Stewart (3rd of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald - Gordon Lightfoot
03 03 Love So Right - The Bee Gees
04 04 Muskrat Love - The Captain & Tennille
05 06 The Rubberband Man - The Spinners
06 05 Disco Duck (Part 1) - Rick Dees & His Cast Of Idiots
07 08 Just To Be Close To You - The Commodores
08 09 Beth / Detroit Rock City - KISS
09 12 More Than a Feeling - Boston
10 11 Nadia's Theme (The Young And The Restless) - Barry DeVorzon & Perry Botkin Jr.

[Old-school 72]

Wow! At the 1976 chart. KISS was #8 . I was just 4yrs old but knew all the lyrics to that song. Crazee.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

November 28, 1981

01 01 Physical - Olivia Newton-John (2nd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 03 Waiting For a Girl Like You - Foreigner
03 02 Private Eyes - Daryl Hall & John Oates
04 08 Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic - The Police
05 05 Here I Am (Just When I Thought I Was Over You) - Air Supply
06 11 Oh No - The Commodores
07 04 Start Me Up - The Rolling Stones
08 06 Tryin' To Live My Life Without You - Bob Seger
09 09 Arthur's Theme (Best That You Can Do) - Christopher Cross
10 12 Why Do Fools Fall In Love - Diana Ross


November 29, 1986

01 04 You Give Love a Bad Name - Bon Jovi (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Human - The Human League
03 03 True Blue - Madonna
04 07 The Next Time I Fall - Peter Cetera & Amy Grant
05 08 Hip To Be Square - Huey Lewis & The News
06 06 Word Up! - Cameo
07 02 Amanda - Boston
08 09 The Way It Is - Bruce Hornsby & The Range
09 10 Love Will Conquer All - Lionel Richie
10 16 Walk Like An Egyptian - The Bangles


And now the first chart with the new methodology...

November 30, 1991

01 03 Set Adrift On Memory Bliss - P.M. Dawn (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 When a Man Loves a Woman - Michael Bolton
03 35 Black Or White - Michael Jackson
04 04 It's So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday - Boyz II Men
05 02 Cream - Prince & The New Power Generation
06 08 Blowing Kisses In The Wind - Paula Abdul
07 21 All 4 Love - Color Me Badd
08 11 O.P.P. - Naughty By Nature
09 24 Do Anything - Natural Selection
10 05 Can't Stop This Thing We Started - Bryan Adams

15 33 Emotions - Mariah Carey
27 67 Good Vibrations - Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch feat. Loleatta Holloway
36 90 I Adore Mi Amor - Color Me Badd


November 23, 1996

01 01 No Diggity - Blackstreet feat. Dr. Dre (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 It's All Coming Back To Me Now - Celine Dion
03 03 Un-Break My Heart - Toni Braxton
04 06 Mouth - Merril Bainbridge
05 07 Nobody - Keith Sweat feat. Athena Cage
06 08 Pony - Ginuwine
07 05 I Love You Always Forever - Donna Lewis
08 09 Where Do You Go - No Mercy
09 04 Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio
10 10 This Is For The Lover In You - Babyface feat. LL Cool J, Howard Hewett, Jody Watley & Jeffrey Daniel

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

November 24, 2001

01 01 Family Affair - Mary J. Blige (4th of 6 weeks at #1)
02 05 U Got It Bad - Usher
03 03 Hero - Enrique Iglesias
04 02 I'm Real - Jennifer Lopez feat. Ja Rule
05 09 How You Remind Me - Nickelback
06 06 Turn Off The Light - Nelly Furtado
07 04 Fallin' - Alicia Keys
08 08 Livin' It Up - Ja Rule feat. Case
09 07 Differences - Ginuwine
10 10 Only Time - Enya

14 15 Rock The Boat - Aaliyah


November 25, 2006

01 01 My Love - Justin Timberlake feat. T.I. (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Smack That - Akon feat. Eminem
03 03 Fergalicious - Fergie feat. will.i.am
04 09 Irreplaceable - Beyonce
05 05 Lips Of An Angel - Hinder
06 04 Money Maker - Ludacris feat. Pharrell
07 06 How To Save a Life - The Fray
08 47 Show Me What You Got - Jay-Z
09 08 Chasing Cars - Snow Patrol
10 07 SexyBack - Justin Timberlake


November 26, 2011

01 01 We Found Love - Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris (3rd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Sexy And I Know It - LMFAO
03 03 Someone Like You - Adele
04 06 Without You - David Guetta feat. Usher
05 04 Moves Like Jagger - Maroon 5 feat. Christina Aguilera
06 05 Stereo Hearts - The Gym Class Heroes feat. Adam Levine
07 07 Pumped Up Kicks - Foster The People
08 08 Good Feeling - Flo Rida
09 12 It Will Rain - Bruno Mars
10 NE If This Was a Movie - Taylor Swift

13 NE Ours - Taylor Swift
26 NE Superman - Taylor Swift


November 28, 2015

01 01 Hello - Adele (3rd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Hotline Bling - Drake
03 04 Sorry - Justin Bieber
04 03 The Hills - The Weeknd
05 06 Stitches - Shawn Mendes
06 05 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
07 09 679 - Fetty Wap feat. Remy Boyz
08 08 Wildest Dreams - Taylor Swift
09 10 Like I'm Gonna Lose You - Meghan Trainor feat. John Legend
10 12 Ex's & Oh's - Elle King

[Golden Bluebird]

The original version of "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen is currently at #6 on iTunes. Apparently, his version never made it on the Hot 100, so could it possibly make its debut on the chart next week?

[jenglisbe]

Nov 13, 2016 12:39:34 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

The original version of "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen is currently at #6 on iTunes. Apparently, his version never made it on the Hot 100, so could it possibly make its debut on the chart next week?

The SNL cold open last night is giving it another boost, for sure, but how much would it need to sell to make the Hot 100? I assume airplay will be non-existent. He may get some streams, too. I didn't pay attention to the totals before his death and now SNL, so I don't know how the track is doing on YT (it has a couple of official videos though).

[rimetm]

Hallelujah had 292k streams in the US for the 11/26 tracking week, 934k if the live version being content ID'd as well counts. On November 11th alone, it's accrued 361k/1.242m already, so it may end up pacing enough to re-enter after all for the 12/3 chart.

[renfield75]

I hope Leonard does score his first top 40/Hot 100 hit after all these decades. It would be kinda like NWA landing their first chart hit last year after "Straight Outta Compton" came out.

It's a shame though that Jeff Buckley never appeared on the big chart.

[WotUNeed]

Nov 13, 2016 12:39:34 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

The original version of "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen is currently at #6 on iTunes. Apparently, his version never made it on the Hot 100, so could it possibly make its debut on the chart next week?

Based on how Billboard has handled other older songs that haven't previously charted (such as those that sold well after the deaths of David Bowie and Prince), it'll need enough points to rank in the top 50 to be allowed on the chart.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Nov 13, 2016 16:18:33 GMT -5 WotUNeed said:

Nov 13, 2016 12:39:34 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

The original version of "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen is currently at #6 on iTunes. Apparently, his version never made it on the Hot 100, so could it possibly make its debut on the chart next week?

Based on how Billboard has handled other older songs that haven't previously charted (such as those that sold well after the deaths of David Bowie and Prince), it'll need enough points to rank in the top 50 to be allowed on the chart.

I agree. They have that same standard when Prince and David Bowie died. BTW, it's already up to #4 in iTunes.

[Spidey]

What is the current Hot 100 formula?

[missgenericnickname]

Random Question: Is there any information on Dev's "#1"? I've heard that like 3 times tonight
(It's good I'd check it out if I were y'all)

Nov 13, 2016 23:05:40 GMT -5 Spidey said:

What is the current Hot 100 formula?

I think it's 40% streams, 40% sales& 30% airplay

[MTSChart21]

Nov 13, 2016 23:05:40 GMT -5 Spidey said:

What is the current Hot 100 formula?

We don't have the official formula, but we have something that should be pretty close.

We used to use this:
Sales/9
Airplay/10,000
Streams/1,200

but we've updated that to this:
Sales/9.5
Airplay/10,500
Streams/1,200

[Mr. Thonk Eyes]

Nov 13, 2016 23:05:40 GMT -5 Spidey said:

What is the current Hot 100 formula?

The last time georgetherunner314 did a breakdown of the formula it was 44% streams, 24% sales, and 32% radio.

[georgetherunner314]

Since this discussion came up again, I will say that I'm postulating upon altering my preferred formula again to Sales/10 + Airplay/10,500 + Streams/1,200 since it seems to have worked a tad better when applying it to last week's hot 100.

That being said, the current weight of each metric was pretty surprising this last week! I found averages for the whole top 50 and the results were:

Sales 15.6%, Radio 31.8%, and Streams 52.6%

I figure the fact that the top selling song only had 72k sales played a part in that.

[forg]

Closer is now back at #4 on iTunes after that brief disapperance

[Leo ✔]

Yesterday's update

[Leo ✔]

Credits to: kworb.net/airadio/

[jenglisbe]

It doesn't look like "Starboy" or "24K Magic" will ever pass "Closer" in airplay.

[Harx]

10. Don't Wanna Know
9. Broccoli
8. Juju On That Beat
7. Side to side
6. 24K Magic
5. Let Me Love You
4. Heathens
3. Starboy
2. Closer (bye)
1. Black Beatles

They didn't reveal anything outside top 10 again...