Caviar
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Post by Caviar on Feb 28, 2023 0:39:53 GMT -5
I saw Up Close and Personal, Unbreakable, and State of the World tours. UCAP was my fav because I was so close!
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Night Senses
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Post by Night Senses on Feb 28, 2023 4:48:25 GMT -5
I don't see where he says anything one way or another about Janet. Those headlines and comments act like he said it was good for Janet, but he did not; he simply said it brought publicity for the NFL halftime shows, and notes he was asked about the halftime show despite playing in the game. That's all probably accurate. It would have been nice for him to also acknowledge that the NFL profited off Janet's demise, but I find the comments about him misleading as they act like he said it was ok as the one tweet says he "thinks all of that was ok" but nowhere did I see him say that. Anyway the highs of Discipline were really nice; my favorites are "Curtains" and "Feedback." It's irrelevant whether or not he made a specific comment about Janet. The point is that he is taking a situation that is deeply rooted in misogynism and racism, and that is broadly recognized as destroying a Black woman's career and legacy, and recasting it as beneficial, all from a position of immense privilege. So, yeah - absolutely clueless. Two words: tone deaf. I donβt understand any rush to defend him. As if he needs it more than Janet. The dragging was necessary.
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Dreams
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Post by Dreams on Feb 28, 2023 7:07:10 GMT -5
β2niteβ is π₯
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 28, 2023 7:37:24 GMT -5
Janet didnβt write anything on Discipline. Watching Larry King live interview, she made it sound like that was a mutual choice between her and the label
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Dammn Baby
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Post by Dammn Baby on Feb 28, 2023 8:12:15 GMT -5
Janet didnβt write anything on Discipline. Watching Larry King live interview, she made it sound like that was a mutual choice between her and the label Pretty sure that both Discipline and 20 YO were made in the throes of a significant depression, and she was simply disengaged and disinterested.
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jenglisbe
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 28, 2023 9:33:18 GMT -5
It's irrelevant whether or not he made a specific comment about Janet. The point is that he is taking a situation that is deeply rooted in misogynism and racism, and that is broadly recognized as destroying a Black woman's career and legacy, and recasting it as beneficial, all from a position of immense privilege. So, yeah - absolutely clueless. Two words: tone deaf. I donβt understand any rush to defend him. As if he needs it more than Janet. The dragging was necessary. I wasn't defending Tom Brady specifically; I don't even like him. I was addressing what was actually said versus the reaction/portrayal. Multiple things can be true at one time; there can have been a racist and misogynist response that hurt Janet and have been something that boosted the NFL. It wouldn't be the first time an organization benefitted from racism and misogyny, nor was it the last. None of that means I like it either.
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 28, 2023 9:37:05 GMT -5
Janet didnβt write anything on Discipline. Watching Larry King live interview, she made it sound like that was a mutual choice between her and the label Pretty sure that both Discipline and 20 YO were made in the throes of a significant depression, and she was simply disengaged and disinterested. I agree for Discipline perhaps, not 20 YO though
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Dammn Baby
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Post by Dammn Baby on Feb 28, 2023 9:42:39 GMT -5
Two words: tone deaf. I donβt understand any rush to defend him. As if he needs it more than Janet. The dragging was necessary. I wasn't defending Tom Brady specifically; I don't even like him. I was addressing what was actually said versus the reaction/portrayal. Multiple things can be true at one time; there can have been a racist and misogynist response that hurt Janet and have been something that boosted the NFL. It wouldn't be the first time an organization benefitted from racism and misogyny, nor was it the last. None of that means I like it either. The reaction he has received is for the reasons we cited. Speaking about the benefits accrued to the NFL as if they existed in a vacuum, and NOT addressing the very public realities for the Black woman who lost everything, is about as privileged (and savvy) as saying that the publicity that Rosa Parks generated was a big boost to the bus industry. Just dumb, and the lashings are deserved.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Feb 28, 2023 9:48:10 GMT -5
The 90s will always be a special decade to me. π
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bat1990
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 28, 2023 10:41:55 GMT -5
That top 6 is pure fire!!!
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 28, 2023 17:50:02 GMT -5
TJ Jackson getting dragged for his recent PUBLIC comments about his Auntie Janet. I think itβs HE who has no class. I used to think he was so hot too http://instagram.com/p/CpNpJlmO4M1
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 1, 2023 18:05:26 GMT -5
I would really love it if she did Because of Love, which she hasnt done live since the janet. tour. I would seriously cry probably uncontrollably.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Mar 3, 2023 0:29:36 GMT -5
I don't like how her nephew is trying to slut shame her and other female artists for being provocative in their music when male artists do it too. Male rappers, Prince, R.Kelly, Chris Brown, Omarion, Trey Songz, and Usher. Some of these male artists have also given lap dances on stage.
Why not also put that same energy and hold male artists accountable if he is really that concerned for his daughters?
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Dammn Baby
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Post by Dammn Baby on Mar 5, 2023 21:26:16 GMT -5
I want "Escapade" or "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" to go viral. They're like gateway drugs.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Mar 9, 2023 10:38:36 GMT -5
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R.K.
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Post by R.K. on Mar 9, 2023 17:15:52 GMT -5
TJ's been chronically dehydrated for decades, I'm glad he got some much needed social engagement though.
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Apr 10, 2023 14:32:45 GMT -5
Four days until opening night. She's in town!!
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Apr 13, 2023 10:45:32 GMT -5
Finally got my seat! Ticketmaster put up some decent seats in the lower level, almost $200. So glad I avoided the resales and platinum tickets.
This rain has been an issue all week, I look forward to the floods going away so we can enjoy ourselves tomorrow.
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bat1990
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Post by bat1990 on Apr 13, 2023 11:41:40 GMT -5
I can't believe this tour is starting already!!
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 13, 2023 12:10:39 GMT -5
To anyone participating in a meet and greet this month- if you could pass along when it takes place (before or after show). It would be appreciated. Thanks. :) Our show is on May 18- no email sent out yet with such details.
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Apr 13, 2023 12:20:58 GMT -5
To anyone participating in a meet and greet this month- if you could pass along when it takes place (before or after show). It would be appreciated. Thanks. :) Our show is on May 18- no email sent out yet with such details. Iβm gonna be following this thread because I have meet and greets for her May 20 show in Atlantic City and have not received anything yet either
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Apr 13, 2023 12:35:42 GMT -5
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 13, 2023 16:12:44 GMT -5
KIshi- you are attending the opening show, as well? If so, enjoy. :) I'm going to try avoiding spoilers and such.
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Apr 13, 2023 19:47:19 GMT -5
KIshi- you are attending the opening show, as well? If so, enjoy. :) I'm going to try avoiding spoilers and such. Yes, that's the show I was referring to in my last post.
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Apr 13, 2023 19:55:55 GMT -5
I need to avoid spoilers as well. Iβve deleted Twitter lol
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Apr 13, 2023 20:48:13 GMT -5
I won't be posting anything here. You're all safe!! <3
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Apr 13, 2023 21:21:10 GMT -5
I won't be posting anything here. You're all safe!! <3 You can post about in the Live Shows section. I wouldn't mind. π
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Relaxing Cup
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Apr 14, 2023 9:23:07 GMT -5
I cant wait see her new look, hair, etc, sheβs gonna be π₯
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Kishi KCM
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Post by Kishi KCM on Apr 14, 2023 13:59:35 GMT -5
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Apr 14, 2023 16:57:49 GMT -5
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