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Post by Dylan :) on Dec 11, 2017 14:41:53 GMT -5
The first #1 duet this decade..? The Monster, Closer, Timber..? If Empire State of Mind counts as a duet, I don't see why those aren't
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Post by Choco on Dec 11, 2017 14:42:04 GMT -5
Also the BTS group continues to be overhyped. Stats just aren't there for them US-wise.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Dec 11, 2017 14:43:40 GMT -5
The first #1 duet this decade..? The Monster, Closer, Timber..? If Empire State of Mind counts as a duet, I don't see why those aren't They're going off of the billing... Even so, I'd only consider "Closer" a duet out of those - the others are pretty split with one artist on the verses and the other on the chorus. |
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Post by MilesW1998 on Dec 11, 2017 14:44:13 GMT -5
MIC DROP only debuted high because of hype on sales, and YouTube, it has literally nothing going for it. Now I wonder where GUMMO is this week because of the YouTube views being staggering to say the least.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 11, 2017 14:44:29 GMT -5
The first #1 duet this decade..? The Monster, Closer, Timber..? If Empire State of Mind counts as a duet, I don't see why those aren't Well, Chainsmokers are already a duo, so adding Halsey makes that a group and not a duet. Still, if "ESOM" counts then, yes, the other pairings you mention should as well. I guess they are going by how it's credited though? As in, maybe those were "featuring" instead of "&." |
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Post by Dylan :) on Dec 11, 2017 14:45:26 GMT -5
The first #1 duet this decade..? The Monster, Closer, Timber..? If Empire State of Mind counts as a duet, I don't see why those aren't They're going off of the billing... Even so, I'd only consider "Closer" a duet out of those - the others are pretty split with one artist on the verses and the other on the chorus. That makes sense but still... I would count Just Give Me A Reason as a duet, as well |
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Post by leonagwen on Dec 11, 2017 14:46:10 GMT -5
Wow At Mariah Carey at #11.What is the highest this song peaked in recent years?
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Post by Dylan :) on Dec 11, 2017 14:46:57 GMT -5
Also the BTS group continues to be overhyped. Stats just aren't there for them US-wise. They're definitely big in the US (at least on social media), but sometimes I feel Billboard try so hard to make it seem like they're happening. Probably just because they know those tweets/articles will get attention |
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Post by Dylan :) on Dec 11, 2017 14:48:11 GMT -5
Wow At Mariah Carey at #11.What is the highest this song peaked in recent years? #11 in 2015 (or else 2014) |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 11, 2017 14:48:22 GMT -5
Also the BTS group continues to be overhyped. Stats just aren't there for them US-wise. They're definitely big in the US (at least on social media), but sometimes I feel Billboard try so hard to make it seem like they're happening. Probably just because they know those tweets/articles will get attention Yup. It's probably the same reason they had Harry Styles all through their Grammy predictions. |
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 11, 2017 15:11:37 GMT -5
Finally! Bad at a Love at the top 10. Now we need New Rules there as well. If Dua Lipa misses the top 10 because of an old Christmas song, I will be beyond irritated! |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 11, 2017 15:25:14 GMT -5
Finally! Bad at a Love at the top 10. Now we need New Rules there as well. If Dua Lipa misses the top 10 because of an old Christmas song, I will be beyond irritated! Has it hit the top 10 in sales or streaming? |
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Post by Suono on Dec 11, 2017 15:32:21 GMT -5
Wait so what was/is the Gummo issue?
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Dec 11, 2017 15:45:28 GMT -5
#71 BTS feat. Desiigner - MIC Drop [Steve Aoki Remix] (-43) #53 Demi Lovato - Tell Me You Love Me (RE) #21 G-Eazy feat. Halsey - Him & I (NEW) #11 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You (+10) #10 Maroon 5 feat. SZA - What Lovers Do (-1) #9 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow (-2) #8 Halsey - Bad At Love (+3) YEESSSSSS #7 G-Eazy feat. A$AP Rocky & Cardi B - No Limit (+1) #6 Sam Smith - Too Good At Goodbyes (=) (I can't believe this is doing so well, it feels like such a non event..) #5 Imagine Dragons - Thunder (=) #4 Lil Pump - Gucci Gang (=) (#2 on streaming) #3 Camila Cabello - Havana (-1) (#1 on radio) So, whatever "Gummo" issue you all referenced but not be a mistake but rather the rule? Billboard has been blacking out on YouTube completely recently, because they can't figure out which views are real and which aren't. They've had YouTube since 2013. So almost 5 years now. And they are just now having this problem. "Bank Account", "Gummo", and "Gucci Gang" seem to be confirmed instances of these mistakes. |
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Post by Harx on Dec 11, 2017 15:45:29 GMT -5
Wait so what was/is the Gummo issue? That it exists |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 11, 2017 15:47:58 GMT -5
Finally! Bad at a Love at the top 10. Now we need New Rules there as well. If Dua Lipa misses the top 10 because of an old Christmas song, I will be beyond irritated! Face it, you just don’t want AIWFCIY inside the top 10 period. That’s what’s irritating you...at the thought of it. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Dec 11, 2017 15:48:18 GMT -5
Wait so what was/is the Gummo issue? Kinda blew up out of nowhere off the back of YouTube and SoundCloud (Free Steaming) and doing nothing anywhere else. Two weeks ago it damn near exploded up from the lower 40s to 29 iirc then last week it plummets down to the low 50s. The reasoning for this is split here. Some think YouTube is taking away all of the fake views like what happened when Gucci Gang dropped out of the top ten and rebounded to 3 the next week. Some think its the rule change where free streaming gives less points but Billboard would've announced that it's in place now. The likely outcome is the fake views were really holding it together. |
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Post by Choco on Dec 11, 2017 15:48:52 GMT -5
I'd say Billboard needs to give Youtube an ultimatum: sort out your own data and clear up this mess or we won't count you on our formulas at all. That should be more than enough for Youtube to look into the issue.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Dec 11, 2017 15:49:53 GMT -5
Looks like after all these years Mariah is finally getting another Top 10. ONly things that could possibly blocking it being, Motorsport and New Rules
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Post by Dylan :) on Dec 11, 2017 15:50:41 GMT -5
Fake views from who, the song's label or random fans?
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Dec 11, 2017 15:52:09 GMT -5
I'd say Billboard needs to give Youtube an ultimatum: sort out your own data and clear up this mess or we won't count you on our formulas at all. That should be more than enough for Youtube to look into the issue. Throwback to the charts before youtube. What a shitshow tbh lol |
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 11, 2017 15:56:51 GMT -5
If Dua Lipa misses the top 10 because of an old Christmas song, I will be beyond irritated! Face it, you just don’t want AIWFCIY inside the top 10 period. That’s what’s irritating you...at the thought of it. Nope...it's happening...she's getting that 28th top 10, just not at the expense of Dua Lipa. Plain and simple. Like another top 10 from Mariah is some kind of threat. lol |
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Post by MilesW1998 on Dec 11, 2017 15:59:24 GMT -5
In all honesty tho... she kind of deserves it.
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Post by shrk314 on Dec 11, 2017 16:03:28 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 11, 2017 16:03:31 GMT -5
Based on its continued run as the most popular holiday tune year in and year out, a top 10 peak for AIWFCIY indeed is deserving. That's one less classic tune that won't require discussion/clarification of why it didn't reach the top 10, or another chart range, despite its classic status.
I'm not sure what the trend is, though, for this coming third week on the chart- the gain may not be as large as it's been the last couple of weeks. Streaming, though, is leading the way by far.
These are the AIWFCIY stats, per Billboard:
Sales: 19-13, 21,000 (+33%)
Airplay: 47-42, 27 million (+4%)
Streaming: 16-7, 24.2 million (+47%)
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 11, 2017 16:09:33 GMT -5
Based on its continued run as the most popular holiday tune year in and year out, a top 10 peak for AIWFCIY indeed is deserving. That's one less classic tune that won't require discussion/clarification of why it didn't reach the top 10, or another chart range, despite its classic status. I'm not sure what the trend is, though, for this coming third week on the chart- the gain may not be as large as it's been the last couple of weeks. Streaming, though, is leading the way by far. These are the AIWFCIY stats, per Billboard: Sales: 19-13, 21,000 (+33%) Airplay: 47-42, 27 million (+4%) Streaming: 16-7, 24.2 million (+47%) I would assume all 3 metrics would increase, since she was in the top 10 of Itunes over the weekend and airplay should increase as we move closer. Really, sales is the one to watch, as sales seem lower during the week compared to the weekend. |
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Post by willapted33 on Dec 11, 2017 16:09:35 GMT -5
If New Rules denies Mariah from top 10 I will riot
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 11, 2017 16:11:59 GMT -5
What is this, Motorsport and New Rules?
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 11, 2017 16:13:08 GMT -5
If New Rules denies Mariah from top 10 I will riot lol, doubt it, but I have no idea what #12 and #13 are. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 11, 2017 16:14:17 GMT -5
Based on its continued run as the most popular holiday tune year in and year out, a top 10 peak for AIWFCIY indeed is deserving. That's one less classic tune that won't require discussion/clarification of why it didn't reach the top 10, or another chart range, despite its classic status. I'm not sure what the trend is, though, for this coming third week on the chart- the gain may not be as large as it's been the last couple of weeks. Streaming, though, is leading the way by far. These are the AIWFCIY stats, per Billboard: Sales: 19-13, 21,000 (+33%) Airplay: 47-42, 27 million (+4%) Streaming: 16-7, 24.2 million (+47%) I don't know that its chart points will rise a ton next chart, but they should maintain or increase slightly. So, it's more about how much "What Lovers Do" and "Bodak Yellow" fall. |
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