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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 10, 2018 15:37:50 GMT -5
Well I have no proof but somebody under Carrie Underwood’s instapost that “Champion” will be on her new album. After they answered me they deleted that comment to me. So I don’t know if it’s true of not.
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Post by austin on Aug 10, 2018 15:51:39 GMT -5
Well I have no proof but somebody under Carrie Underwood’s instapost that “Champion” will be on her new album. After they answered me they deleted that comment to me. So I don’t know if it’s true of not. It’s in a previous article somewhere on Pulse that it’s a confirmed bonus track. |
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 10, 2018 23:29:59 GMT -5
Touring with Maddie & Tae + Runaway June I’m 2019. Tour doesn’t start until May because Carrie and Mike are pregnant!!! So freakin happy for them! Free album purchase with each ticket to the tour sold, so she should get some decent sales for the album regardless of how non-event of a single Cry Pretty has been. So! much! good! news! Female power tour, a baby on the way, and 100k+ sales first week for the album! 100k+ should be expected no matter what. With a tour bundle I think we can expect 200-300k. |
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Post by g8erboi on Aug 11, 2018 7:53:25 GMT -5
Putting "The Champion" on the album would be smart because I’m pretty sure the (strong) sales and streams of the song would add to the overall album equivalent units for the first week sales.
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Aug 11, 2018 8:22:14 GMT -5
So! much! good! news! Female power tour, a baby on the way, and 100k+ sales first week for the album! 100k+ should be expected no matter what. With a tour bundle I think we can expect 200-300k. Well, “Storyteller” debuted with 164k and that was 2015. With the sales decline that has built up over the past few years I think that without the bundle it could dip below 100k. Just look at Luke Bryan: In 2015 he sold 320k of “Kill the Lights” in its first week, and in 2017, with a similarly low-impact single, he sold 99k. |
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Post by Darkest Hour on Aug 11, 2018 9:24:03 GMT -5
...the (strong) sales and streams of the song would add to the overall album equivalent units for the first week sales. But it won't count for first week sales. Rather it is much easier to reach certification threshold. |
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 11, 2018 10:54:55 GMT -5
100k+ should be expected no matter what. With a tour bundle I think we can expect 200-300k. Well, “Storyteller” debuted with 164k and that was 2015. With the sales decline that has built up over the past few years I think that without the bundle it could dip below 100k. Just look at Luke Bryan: In 2015 he sold 320k of “Kill the Lights” in its first week, and in 2017, with a similarly low-impact single, he sold 99k. We have to also consider the fact that "Smoke Break" sold quite poorly by her standard at the time, so it's not like Storyteller's opening week wasn't in itself an underperformance for her. "Heartbeat" didn't help matters and she couldn't even get the No 1 exposure that time around since she wasn't No 1. This time even though country radio isn't playing her as much, it's more extended as a promotional campaign, and the 2 pre-album tracks both sold well in their opening weeks. Without a bundle, she would still have gotten her lowest opening week, but I really can't see her dipping too much below her compilation' s first-week sales. |
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Post by jessy on Aug 11, 2018 13:34:26 GMT -5
100k+ should be expected no matter what. With a tour bundle I think we can expect 200-300k. Well, “Storyteller” debuted with 164k and that was 2015. With the sales decline that has built up over the past few years I think that without the bundle it could dip below 100k. Just look at Luke Bryan: In 2015 he sold 320k of “Kill the Lights” in its first week, and in 2017, with a similarly low-impact single, he sold 99k. I’d be very surprised if she sales under 200k. I really expect 200-250k opening week. Those sales will stay up to because she will be performing in front of 25-50k people a week on tour. And every ticket sold is a album sold. Really every artist should be doing this and I’d bet every artist could sale 100k albums just from a tour. |
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Aug 11, 2018 14:10:07 GMT -5
Well, “Storyteller” debuted with 164k and that was 2015. With the sales decline that has built up over the past few years I think that without the bundle it could dip below 100k. Just look at Luke Bryan: In 2015 he sold 320k of “Kill the Lights” in its first week, and in 2017, with a similarly low-impact single, he sold 99k. We have to also consider the fact that "Smoke Break" sold quite poorly by her standard at the time, so it's not like Storyteller's opening week wasn't in itself an underperformance for her. "Heartbeat" didn't help matters and she couldn't even get the No 1 exposure that time around since she wasn't No 1. This time even though country radio isn't playing her as much, it's more extended as a promotional campaign, and the 2 pre-album tracks both sold well in their opening weeks. Without a bundle, she would still have gotten her lowest opening week, but I really can't see her dipping too much below her compilation' s first-week sales. It's true that "Smoke Break" wasn't a big hit by Carrie lead single standards, but it still went Gold and reached #43 on the Hot 100 during a down year when a lot of country songs suffered on the Hot 100 due to streaming. And I'm not sure what "Heartbeat" has to do with this because it was sent out as a single after the album was released. I'll use the Luke Bryan example again. He sold 320,000 albums with a Platinum-seller lead single, then 2 years later sold 99,000 with a song that sold 164,000 as of January, so that is a 69% decrease. Carrie probably would have sold more than 100,000 last year, but album sales have really fallen this year (recently the #1 selling album was only 29,000). |
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 11, 2018 16:24:56 GMT -5
Ticket bundles have helped albums tremendously. Look no further than Pink, or Shania Twain.
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 12, 2018 0:06:53 GMT -5
We have to also consider the fact that "Smoke Break" sold quite poorly by her standard at the time, so it's not like Storyteller's opening week wasn't in itself an underperformance for her. "Heartbeat" didn't help matters and she couldn't even get the No 1 exposure that time around since she wasn't No 1. This time even though country radio isn't playing her as much, it's more extended as a promotional campaign, and the 2 pre-album tracks both sold well in their opening weeks. Without a bundle, she would still have gotten her lowest opening week, but I really can't see her dipping too much below her compilation' s first-week sales. It's true that "Smoke Break" wasn't a big hit by Carrie lead single standards, but it still went Gold and reached #43 on the Hot 100 during a down year when a lot of country songs suffered on the Hot 100 due to streaming. And I'm not sure what "Heartbeat" has to do with this because it was sent out as a single after the album was released. I'll use the Luke Bryan example again. He sold 320,000 albums with a Platinum-seller lead single, then 2 years later sold 99,000 with a song that sold 164,000 as of January, so that is a 69% decrease. Carrie probably would have sold more than 100,000 last year, but album sales have really fallen this year (recently the #1 selling album was only 29,000). True. But let's say a 50% drop for Carrie would still have been 80k - wouldn't be far from her compilation once again with SPS. Would she really have done less than say, Kelly Clarkson? I'd find that quite difficult to believe. We can't just compare different artists as they all have their individual circumstances. In Luke's case, I think he's still very singles driven and didn't he release EPs? Anyway, the sales are gonna be very different with the tour bundle now. We can have a better idea after knowing how many eligible tickets are sold before the album drops, but right now, I do expect 200k+. |
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 12, 2018 1:54:12 GMT -5
It's true that "Smoke Break" wasn't a big hit by Carrie lead single standards, but it still went Gold and reached #43 on the Hot 100 during a down year when a lot of country songs suffered on the Hot 100 due to streaming. And I'm not sure what "Heartbeat" has to do with this because it was sent out as a single after the album was released. I'll use the Luke Bryan example again. He sold 320,000 albums with a Platinum-seller lead single, then 2 years later sold 99,000 with a song that sold 164,000 as of January, so that is a 69% decrease. Carrie probably would have sold more than 100,000 last year, but album sales have really fallen this year (recently the #1 selling album was only 29,000). True. But let's say a 50% drop for Carrie would still have been 80k - wouldn't be far from her compilation once again with SPS. Would she really have done less than say, Kelly Clarkson? I'd find that quite difficult to believe. We can't just compare different artists as they all have their individual circumstances. In Luke's case, I think he's still very singles driven and didn't he release EPs? Anyway, the sales are gonna be very different with the tour bundle now. We can have a better idea after knowing how many eligible tickets are sold before the album drops, but right now, I do expect 200k+. Hopefully it’s goes to number one on the Country and all genre Album charts. I don’t see any competition on her release day that could beat her I don’t think. |
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Aug 12, 2018 9:44:42 GMT -5
It's true that "Smoke Break" wasn't a big hit by Carrie lead single standards, but it still went Gold and reached #43 on the Hot 100 during a down year when a lot of country songs suffered on the Hot 100 due to streaming. And I'm not sure what "Heartbeat" has to do with this because it was sent out as a single after the album was released. I'll use the Luke Bryan example again. He sold 320,000 albums with a Platinum-seller lead single, then 2 years later sold 99,000 with a song that sold 164,000 as of January, so that is a 69% decrease. Carrie probably would have sold more than 100,000 last year, but album sales have really fallen this year (recently the #1 selling album was only 29,000). True. But let's say a 50% drop for Carrie would still have been 80k - wouldn't be far from her compilation once again with SPS. I was just talking about sales, but with SPS, yes it would probably go over 100k. Well, “Storyteller” debuted with 164k and that was 2015. With the sales decline that has built up over the past few years I think that without the bundle it could dip below 100k. Just look at Luke Bryan: In 2015 he sold 320k of “Kill the Lights” in its first week, and in 2017, with a similarly low-impact single, he sold 99k. I’d be very surprised if she sales under 200k. I really expect 200-250k opening week. Those sales will stay up to because she will be performing in front of 25-50k people a week on tour. And every ticket sold is a album sold. Really every artist should be doing this and I’d bet every artist could sale 100k albums just from a tour. I forgot to respond to this lol. I also expect around 200k, but traditionally the sales take a dive on the second week because the bundle isn't offered anymore. But who knows, they might do it differently this time. Also, some people who buy the tickets don't even bother with the album so it won't be every ticket. |
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Post by countryisking on Aug 12, 2018 9:52:59 GMT -5
I always thought when they do a bundle, every ticket sale counted as an album sale whether or not anything was actually downloaded. The whole practice is pretty asinine if you ask me anyway (counting it as an album sale, not offering it for free). That's the most passive form of a sale there is. Why not just start counting radio airplay as sales?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Aug 12, 2018 10:03:52 GMT -5
I always thought when they do a bundle, every ticket sale counted as an album sale whether or not anything was actually downloaded. The whole practice is pretty asinine if you ask me anyway (counting it as an album sale, not offering it for free). That's the most passive form of a sale there is. Why not just start counting radio airplay as sales? Nope, I'm pretty sure it has to be downloaded. |
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Post by thewp on Aug 12, 2018 10:17:35 GMT -5
Yeah, the customer has to engage by downloading or requesting the free physical copy for it to count.
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Post by NeRD on Aug 13, 2018 20:08:03 GMT -5
This is just lagging around on the chart now. Hopefully we get second single news soon.
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Post by jessy on Aug 13, 2018 20:23:44 GMT -5
This is just lagging around on the chart now. Hopefully we get second single news soon. I hope so. Not that I don’t want this to peak higher just I really want to hear a new song. |
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 13, 2018 21:54:22 GMT -5
True. But let's say a 50% drop for Carrie would still have been 80k - wouldn't be far from her compilation once again with SPS. Would she really have done less than say, Kelly Clarkson? I'd find that quite difficult to believe. We can't just compare different artists as they all have their individual circumstances. In Luke's case, I think he's still very singles driven and didn't he release EPs? Anyway, the sales are gonna be very different with the tour bundle now. We can have a better idea after knowing how many eligible tickets are sold before the album drops, but right now, I do expect 200k+. Hopefully it’s goes to number one on the Country and all genre Album charts. I don’t see any competition on her release day that could beat her I don’t think. Yeah it should. I don't think it's really going to help the long-term sales much though. |
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Post by Darkest Hour on Aug 16, 2018 9:36:52 GMT -5
It's less than a month until album release and still no tracklist or pre-order single. I hope Carrie will give more album news when she co-hosts Country Countdown USA this weekend.
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 16, 2018 10:50:38 GMT -5
It's less than a month until album release and still no tracklist or pre-order single. I hope Carrie will give more album news when she co-hosts Country Countdown USA this weekend. That’s what I said. |
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Post by g8erboi on Aug 18, 2018 9:01:30 GMT -5
Alright, UMG should really consider pulling the plug on this now. Let this collapse and then, during album release week, it would be smart to release the second single with a Clear Channel deal and Spotify playlist promo or something. The past couple weeks, radio has made it clear that they don’t want to convert this any higher, so this is pretty much just wasting chart real estate at this point.
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 18, 2018 13:02:19 GMT -5
Alright, UMG should really consider pulling the plug on this now. Let this collapse and then, during album release week, it would be smart to release the second single with a Clear Channel deal and Spotify playlist promo or something. The past couple weeks, radio has made it clear that they don’t want to convert this any higher, so this is pretty much just wasting chart real estate at this point. If the plan is to release the second single during album release week, why pulling the plug now? That'd mean weeks of little radio exposure. Also, unless the Clear Channel is Garth Brooks strong, the second single will still have limited radio exposure. Pulling the plug two weeks ago and release a second single right away with the goal of getting it into the Top 10 before the album drops, I can understand. But pulling it now and release the second single during album release week would not be wise. |
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Post by carrieidol1 on Aug 18, 2018 16:10:30 GMT -5
I feel like waiting until a week or two out of the album release is the best bet at this point. Push CP this week and next, get it as high as possible, and then drop the second single a week or two before the album to get some momentum going right into the album release. If they released the new single now, it’d be old news by the time the album comes out, unless it’s a smash hit which would make my entire point moot, but we’ll see. I’m sure they have a killer plan in place, I’m keeping the faith!
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Aug 18, 2018 16:51:33 GMT -5
Push CP this week and next I hope not, these two-week pushes are ridiculous. |
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 18, 2018 19:08:35 GMT -5
All signs point to the next single, "Love Wins," getting released very soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 19:16:39 GMT -5
All signs point to the next single, "Love Wins," getting released very soon. What? I've not heard of this song. |
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 18, 2018 19:20:22 GMT -5
All signs point to the next single, "Love Wins," getting released very soon. What? I've not heard of this song. Video was filmed in Nashville a few weeks ago that aligns with the title + theme, plus new admats that just got released today, plus some personal knowledge. |
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Aug 18, 2018 19:26:58 GMT -5
All signs point to the next single, "Love Wins," getting released very soon. What? I've not heard of this song. Check Carrie's artist thread. There's some recent chatter about it and the theme for the music video she filmed a few weeks ago that I got the inside scoop on sounds like it would fit that title perfectly. So it's almost certainly the 2nd single |
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 18, 2018 19:53:29 GMT -5
All signs point to the next single, "Love Wins," getting released very soon. Judging by the title, this better be an LGBTQ-country anthem or it's canceled. Queen Carrie needs to open the mind of many conservative listeners. Be our Kuntry Queen Carrie! I'm just kidding, but that would be fucking dope if it was. I'd have a lot of respect for her cus that's a risky move for a successful single. |
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