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Post by Choco on Dec 14, 2018 16:52:24 GMT -5
There's probably a good reason why Drake is uncredited (probably wants to relatively dissappear from the charts for a bit before whatever he's already recording comes out? Travis wanted a "solo" hit?). At this point IMO it would feel much cheaper to include him (or Swae Lee).
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Post by iHype. on Dec 14, 2018 17:27:12 GMT -5
There's probably a good reason why Drake is uncredited (probably wants to relatively dissappear from the charts for a bit before whatever he's already recording comes out? Travis wanted a "solo" hit?). At this point IMO it would feel much cheaper to include him (or Swae Lee). Nope. Travis just doesn't credit any features on his album. Frank Ocean, 21 Savage, Juice WRLD, Takeoff, Sheck Wes, Kid Cudi, Quavo, and more also have uncredited features on the album. Kendrick was also uncredited on his 'goosebumps' single from his 2016 album despite guest vocals. |
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Post by renaboss on Dec 14, 2018 18:01:09 GMT -5
Maybe there's a creative or personal reason behind that (not crediting your featured artists), but it doesn't sit well with me. It strikes me as a tad misogynistic how Meat Loaf would never credit his female duet partners, even Cher - CHER! This is obviously not the same, but reminiscent of that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 14, 2018 18:32:33 GMT -5
There's probably a good reason why Drake is uncredited (probably wants to relatively dissappear from the charts for a bit before whatever he's already recording comes out? Travis wanted a "solo" hit?). At this point IMO it would feel much cheaper to include him (or Swae Lee). Nope. Travis just doesn't credit any features on his album. Frank Ocean, 21 Savage, Juice WRLD, Takeoff, Sheck Wes, Kid Cudi, Quavo, and more also have uncredited features on the album. Kendrick was also uncredited on his 'goosebumps' single from his 2016 album despite guest vocals. Seeing as all the artists on ASTROWORLD are now credited on iTunes, maybe other platforms will follow soon? We'll have to wait and see if Billboard acknowledges it on the chart on Monday. It just feels silly to me that he waited this long to do it when it could have been done MONTHS ago. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 14, 2018 18:43:11 GMT -5
Nope. Travis just doesn't credit any features on his album. Frank Ocean, 21 Savage, Juice WRLD, Takeoff, Sheck Wes, Kid Cudi, Quavo, and more also have uncredited features on the album. Kendrick was also uncredited on his 'goosebumps' single from his 2016 album despite guest vocals. Seeing as all the artists on ASTROWORLD are now credited on iTunes, maybe other platforms will follow soon? We'll have to wait and see if Billboard acknowledges it on the chart on Monday. It just feels silly to me that he waited this long to do it when it could have been done MONTHS ago. Oh wow just noticed that! I hope they get credited on BB. |
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Post by garrettlen on Dec 14, 2018 18:44:18 GMT -5
Maybe there's a creative or personal reason behind that (not crediting your featured artists), but it doesn't sit well with me. It strikes me as a tad misogynistic how Meat Loaf would never credit his female duet partners, even Cher - CHER! This is obviously not the same, but reminiscent of that. Misogynistic literally means "woman hating", perhaps you mean sexist? Anyway, it was common in the "older" days for well known artists to sing on other well known artists tracks and never receive any credit for it on the actual record. Examples include Mick Jagger on Carly Simon's "You're So Vain"; John Lennon on David Bowie's "Fame"; Elton John on "Neil Sedeka's "Bad Blood". It was a common practice and nobody had any problem with it. As for Meat Loaf, perhaps some of his duet partners were female studio singers? They weren't usually credited on older recordings either, although they were paid for their time. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2018 19:58:31 GMT -5
Maybe there's a creative or personal reason behind that (not crediting your featured artists), but it doesn't sit well with me. It strikes me as a tad misogynistic how Meat Loaf would never credit his female duet partners, even Cher - CHER! This is obviously not the same, but reminiscent of that. Misogynistic literally means "woman hating", perhaps you mean sexist? Anyway, it was common in the "older" days for well known artists to sing on other well known artists tracks and never receive any credit for it on the actual record. Examples include Mick Jagger on Carly Simon's "You're So Vain"; John Lennon on David Bowie's "Fame"; Elton John on "Neil Sedeka's "Bad Blood". It was a common practice and nobody had any problem with it. As for Meat Loaf, perhaps some of his duet partners were female studio singers? They weren't usually credited on older recordings either, although they were paid for their time. I'd argue someone singing background on a song is different than someone with lead vocals. |
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Post by jebsib on Dec 14, 2018 20:55:39 GMT -5
Re: the Travis Scott crediting question, back in 2001 Jennifer Lopez released a solo upbeat pop based song called "I'm Real" which charted for several weeks before a totally different 'remix' featuring Ja Rule started gaining airplay and finally got the song to #1. The Ja Rule version was not credited the first 9 weeks, but retroactively it has been (despite not even existing during the initial few weeks).
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Dec 14, 2018 21:16:25 GMT -5
Astroworld features credited on Apple Music and iTunes but not Spotify.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 14, 2018 21:38:46 GMT -5
Astroworld features credited on Apple Music and iTunes but not Spotify. Lol, I'm just hoping Billboard acknowledges it and gives all the artists now credited on the album their entry count. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:52:28 GMT -5
Astroworld features credited on Apple Music and iTunes but not Spotify. Lol, I'm just hoping Billboard acknowledges it and gives all the artists now credited on the album their entry count. Drake getting four number ones in a year,  when will Rihanna |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 14, 2018 21:57:37 GMT -5
Lol, I'm just hoping Billboard acknowledges it and gives all the artists now credited on the album their entry count. Drake getting four number ones in a year, when will Rihanna 2010: Rude Boy. Love The Way You Lie. Only Girl (In The World). What's My Name. WHEW... Legend. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 22:02:33 GMT -5
Drake getting four number ones in a year, when will Rihanna 2010: Rude Boy. Love The Way You Lie. Only Girl (In The World). What's My Name. WHEW... Legend. So she did it because of Drake :kii: |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2018 1:25:00 GMT -5
Lol, I'm just hoping Billboard acknowledges it and gives all the artists now credited on the album their entry count. Drake getting four number ones in a year, when will Rihanna Technically, he did score 4 #1's this year, but it's still left to be seen if Billboard will retroactively credit him for Sicko Mode. |
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Post by willapted33 on Dec 15, 2018 2:40:05 GMT -5
2010: Rude Boy. Love The Way You Lie. Only Girl (In The World). What's My Name. WHEW... Legend. So she did it because of Drake  and Drake did it because of Travis :kii: |
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Post by kimberly on Dec 15, 2018 3:07:57 GMT -5
2010: Rude Boy. Love The Way You Lie. Only Girl (In The World). What's My Name. WHEW... Legend. So she did it because of Drake Rihanna blessed him with his first two number ones (What's My Name and Work), don't get too cocky |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Dec 15, 2018 4:04:25 GMT -5
Maybe there's a creative or personal reason behind that (not crediting your featured artists), but it doesn't sit well with me. It strikes me as a tad misogynistic how Meat Loaf would never credit his female duet partners, even Cher - CHER! This is obviously not the same, but reminiscent of that. Misogynistic literally means "woman hating", perhaps you mean sexist? Anyway, it was common in the "older" days for well known artists to sing on other well known artists tracks and never receive any credit for it on the actual record. Examples include Mick Jagger on Carly Simon's "You're So Vain"; John Lennon on David Bowie's "Fame"; Elton John on "Neil Sedeka's "Bad Blood". It was a common practice and nobody had any problem with it. As for Meat Loaf, perhaps some of his duet partners were female studio singers? They weren't usually credited on older recordings either, although they were paid for their time. Another great example is Micheal Jackson on Rockwell's "Somebody's Watching Me." |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 4:18:35 GMT -5
So she did it because of Drake Rihanna blessed him with his first two number ones (What's My Name and Work), don't get too cocky They wouldn't of went number one without Drake  |
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Post by hot100predictions on Dec 15, 2018 6:03:22 GMT -5
Astroworld features credited on Apple Music and iTunes but not Spotify. Wait so does that mean Drake will have his fourth #1 of the year???? |
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Post by amore on Dec 15, 2018 7:36:15 GMT -5
I'm sorry I'm confused. I thought the billboard year was over. Astroworld features credited on Apple Music and iTunes but not Spotify. Wait so does that mean Drake will have his fourth #1 of the year???? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 7:41:16 GMT -5
Kodak album really didn’t impact Spotify one bit
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2018 7:46:07 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking?
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Post by Mayman on Dec 15, 2018 8:41:20 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking? I'm 99% sure it won't debut at #1. |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 15, 2018 8:56:57 GMT -5
Rihanna blessed him with his first two number ones (What's My Name and Work), don't get too cocky They wouldn't of went number one without Drake What's with the micro-aggression towards Rihanna and the status of her number one singles all of a sudden? In the U.S, she has 12 #1 singles without Drake as well as 50 weeks at #1 without him and completely obliterates any close competition on an international chart scale. Her placement as the Greatest hitmaker of the past 25 years has absolutely no bearing because of him, the same way Drake's first 10 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 no longer has bearing because of Rihanna in the grand scheme of things when he has 4 other number ones without her. It's nice that Mr. Graham is now scoring back-to-back number ones in the Streaming era (which favours Rap/Hip-Hop so much) because he surely COULD NOT do it when the Digital era was at its peak and when airplay stil ranked high in the chart formula. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2018 9:01:23 GMT -5
They wouldn't of went number one without Drake What's with the micro-aggression towards Rihanna and the status of her number one singles all of a sudden? In the U.S, she has 12 #1 singles without Drake as well as 50 weeks at #1 without him and completely obliterates any close competition on an international chart scale. Her placement as the Greatest hitmaker of the past 25 years has absolutely no bearing because of him, the same way Drake's first 10 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 no longer has bearing because of Rihanna in the grand scheme of things when he has 4 other number ones without her. It's nice that Mr. Graham is now scoring back-to-back number ones in the Streaming era because he surely COULD NOT do it when the Digital era was at its peak and when airplay stil ranked high in the chart formula. I might be wrong, but I believe @drakeisskinny was just joking. Some Rihanna fans still throw it in Drake's face that she's the only reason he blew up internationally and she made him because she gave him his first two #1's. I never see it being said here, but I see it everywhere else. Rihanna is Rihanna without Drake and Drake is Drake without Rihanna, let's just leave it at that. |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 15, 2018 9:02:11 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking? I'm almost certain it's not debuting anywhere close to #1. If it maintains its top three hold on Spotify throughout the week then it could, possibly, debut in the top 10-15 but even that I doubt. We'll have to see how sales hold up also. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2018 9:03:23 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking? I'm 99% sure it won't debut at #1. I haven't seen the same viral reaction for it as thank u, next had, so that may very well be true. I think she's got a top 10 debut on lock, though. |
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Post by korbel16 on Dec 15, 2018 9:04:40 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking? top 10 100% |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2018 9:04:43 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking? I'm almost certain it's not debuting anywhere close to #1. If it maintains its top three hold on Spotify throughout the week then it could, possibly, debut in the top 10-15 but even that I doubt. We'll have to see how sales hold up also. I hope she scores a top 10 at least. Justice for breathin' not making it to the top 10. Would also be nice if she scored a top 10 now because I don't think the charts will be this weak when the new year comes. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 15, 2018 9:05:18 GMT -5
Anyone know if Ariana's new single has a chance of debuting at #1 or is it too early to be asking? top 10 100% Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. |
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