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Post by billboardtopten on Apr 8, 2019 22:46:29 GMT -5
Old Town Road is a RAP song Yes, rap AND country |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Apr 8, 2019 23:00:07 GMT -5
Old Town Road is a RAP song Yes, rap AND country country accent, rap song |
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Post by iHype. on Apr 8, 2019 23:04:50 GMT -5
Billboard not labeling Old Town Road as Country could have some merit, but then you remember -- this is the same chart company who put Gangnam Style at #1 on the Rap chart in 2012.
Another comedical meme that skated on a genre. They're just definitely inconsistent and getting rightful backlash with the genre charts. Now they've become charts full of asterisks and debates.
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Post by billboardtopten on Apr 8, 2019 23:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by Naos on Apr 8, 2019 23:22:30 GMT -5
I mean... "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" went to #1 on the Hot 100, and country charts... I would not call that country either, and it's definitely less than "Old Town Road".
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Apr 8, 2019 23:30:34 GMT -5
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2019 0:02:56 GMT -5
How is Without Me ahead of Ariana....
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Post by Verisimilitude on Apr 9, 2019 0:07:44 GMT -5
Billboard not labeling Old Town Road as Country could have some merit, but then you remember -- this is the same chart company who put Gangnam Style at #1 on the Rap chart in 2012. Technically PSY does rap on the song, it's just not a hip hop song in the slightest. Hence why it didn't appear on the R&B/Hip Hop chart. |
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Post by kimberly on Apr 9, 2019 0:26:05 GMT -5
I agree but year end charts only come out once a year. Weekly charts is all you have each week Yes is gets discussed and predicted here constantly but not the same thing So you would say "We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" was more popular than "7/11" then? Weekly charts measure weekly popularity. Year-end charts are better in comparing how songs fared in the long run, but they still don't ever measure the entire lifetime of a song. RIAA certifications do, but they are not precise and require action on the labels' part to be awarded. All of these are beautiful and wonderful and make us nerds happy |
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Post by kimberly on Apr 9, 2019 0:27:55 GMT -5
How is Without Me ahead of Ariana.... it's not sis put ur reading glasses on |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2019 0:33:30 GMT -5
How is Without Me ahead of Ariana.... it's not sis put ur reading glasses on It was in the first "top ten revealed" posts, but not in the actual article... Why do people post their fantasies in these threads lol |
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Post by kimberly on Apr 9, 2019 0:34:45 GMT -5
Billboard not labeling Old Town Road as Country could have some merit, but then you remember -- this is the same chart company who put Gangnam Style at #1 on the Rap chart in 2012. Another comedical meme that skated on a genre. They're just definitely inconsistent and getting rightful backlash with the genre charts. Now they've become charts full of asterisks and debates. If Taylor didn't "come out" as a pop singer in 2014, Billboard would have let "Shake It Off" and "Blank Space" and heck, even "Bad Blood ft. Kendrick" rule country charts. It's funny how white country girl gets a pass but they scrutinize everything about "Old Town Road". 👀👀 It's classified as country on iTunes and has multiple elements that make songs "country," except POC make Nashville quake. |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2019 0:51:48 GMT -5
Darius Rucker has reached #1 on country though, and several times.
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Post by aussie1 on Apr 9, 2019 1:17:20 GMT -5
Old town road could easily spend a good chuck of time at #1. It has a lot of room to grow on radio.
Also unrelated; Bad Guy debuted at #1 in Canada.
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Post by Naos on Apr 9, 2019 1:56:59 GMT -5
Billboard not labeling Old Town Road as Country could have some merit, but then you remember -- this is the same chart company who put Gangnam Style at #1 on the Rap chart in 2012. Another comedical meme that skated on a genre. They're just definitely inconsistent and getting rightful backlash with the genre charts. Now they've become charts full of asterisks and debates. If Taylor didn't "come out" as a pop singer in 2014, Billboard would have let "Shake It Off" and "Blank Space" and heck, even "Bad Blood ft. Kendrick" rule country charts. It's funny how white country girl gets a pass but they scrutinize everything about "Old Town Road". 👀👀 It's classified as country on iTunes and has multiple elements that make songs "country," except POC make Nashville quake. It's not about race. Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, Jimmie Allen, Ray Charles, Charley Pride, Kevin Olusola and Kirstin Maldonado (the latter two as part of Pentatonix), are all people of color who have been on the Hot Country Songs chart. And while Deford Bailey didn't chart (the Hot 100 was before his time), he's in the Country Music Hall of Fame. But the easiest way to disprove it was about race... is that Lil Nas X even charted in the first place. He would have been disqualified as a black person in the first place. The difference between Taylor Swift is that she was being promoted to country radio and was viewed as a country artist back when 'Red' was released. So it isn't really a comparable scenario. |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2019 1:59:37 GMT -5
Yea I believe country radio won't play OTR because it's a rap song containing a NIN sample, not because Lil Nas X is black.
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Post by Naos on Apr 9, 2019 2:00:52 GMT -5
Yea I believe country radio won't play OTR because it's a rap song containing a NIN sample, not because Lil Nas X is black. Well, he is actually #53 on country radio, but it probably won't go to far. They didn't take an established star like Thomas Rhett further than #30 with his rapping on "Vacation". |
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Post by rainie on Apr 9, 2019 2:03:39 GMT -5
wow, this week has certainly been...something
is another else suprised Nipsey Hussle's singles reentered so high? his death seemed to get a lot less attention then Mac Miller's or even Lil Peep's. either way rest in peace :(
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Post by willapted33 on Apr 9, 2019 2:06:39 GMT -5
wow, this week has certainly been...something is another else suprised Nipsey Hussle's singles reentered so high? his death seemed to get a lot less attention then Mac Miller's or even Lil Peep's. either way rest in peace  i saw more about his death on Twitter's than the others but idk |
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Post by Push The Button on Apr 9, 2019 4:55:30 GMT -5
I mean... "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" went to #1 on the Hot 100, and country charts... I would not call that country either, and it's definitely less than "Old Town Road". Another song that caused mass Pulse debate on a genre chart. |
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Post by yuh yuh on Apr 9, 2019 5:11:05 GMT -5
Of course, as an Ariana fan I'm a bit sad she didn't get a 9th week but whatever, it was so close and 8 weeks at #1 is amazing.
Congrats to Old Town Road, which is also a really good song!
Sucker aside, this has been a really good year for #1s.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Apr 9, 2019 5:15:48 GMT -5
Yea I believe country radio won't play OTR because it's a rap song containing a NIN sample, not because Lil Nas X is black. Well, he is actually #53 on country radio, but it probably won't go to far. They didn't take an established star like Thomas Rhett further than #30 with his rapping on "Vacation". There are reasons why country radio probably wouldn't play "Old Town Road", but I don't think rapping would be one of them considering country radio has been willing to play songs that contain rapping like "Dirt Road Anthem" (which was #1 on the Hot Country Songs chart back when the chart essentially only counted airplay from country radio) and "This Is How We Roll" (which was #2 on the Country Airplay chart). |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Apr 9, 2019 5:28:41 GMT -5
Of course, as an Ariana fan I'm a bit sad she didn't get a 9th week but whatever, it was so close and 8 weeks at #1 is amazing. Congrats to Old Town Road, which is also a really good song! Sucker aside, this has been a really good year for #1s. I have loved this years number ones! Last year, we had an influx of songs I didn't like or didn't really care about making number one. But this year I've liked EVERYTHING. In fact, Old Town Road is probably my least favourite of this bunch but it's still growing on me and it's just refreshing to see it #1 rather than something like In My Feelings or Girls Like You haha. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 9, 2019 5:42:09 GMT -5
What's wrong with it? It's a better way (along with RIAA certifications) as to what's more popular. No it’s not. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 9, 2019 5:47:32 GMT -5
I agree but year end charts only come out once a year. Weekly charts is all you have each week Yes is gets discussed and predicted here constantly but not the same thing So you would say "We Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" was more popular than "7/11" then? Weekly charts measure weekly popularity. Year-end charts are better in comparing how songs fared in the long run, but they still don't ever measure the entire lifetime of a song. RIAA certifications do, but they are not precise and require action on the labels' part to be awarded. All of these are beautiful and wonderful and make us nerds happy For that one week it was more popular (according to Billboard). That’s why you need other weekly charts for context. How did 7/11 do elsewhere on other weekly charts? Looking at just a peak only tells you a small portion of the story. A peak is usually just a single week. How did the song do elsewhere? Yearend charts are skewed because while it does take into account a wider time range, it still cuts off at the start and end of each year so all those songs with chart activity that goes beyond that period doesn’t have that included in the yearend data. Yearend charts favour songs that have their entire chart run within that year’s timeframe. |
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Post by mako on Apr 9, 2019 6:06:05 GMT -5
Yearend charts are skewed because while it does take into account a wider time range, it still cuts off at the start and end of each year so all those songs with chart activity that goes beyond that period doesn’t have that included in the yearend data. Yearend charts favour songs that have their entire chart run within that year’s timeframe. You should check out rockgolf 's "complete" chart. He includes all chart activity even in other years to a song's total for the year (year that it peaked) |
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Post by mako on Apr 9, 2019 6:17:55 GMT -5
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Post by mako on Apr 9, 2019 6:28:54 GMT -5
Close Friends is still charting at #64 (-7). It's at 23 weeks and no bullet
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 6:41:04 GMT -5
Hot 100
This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak
1 15 32 5 #1 1 wks Old Town Road , Lil Nas X 1
2 3 3 24 Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse) , Post Malone & Swae Lee 1
3 1 1 11 7 Rings , Ariana Grande 1
4 2 4 15 Wow. , Post Malone 2
5 4 2 26 Without Me , Halsey 1
6 5 5 7 Please Me , Cardi B & Bruno Mars 3
7 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 Bad Guy , Billie Eilish 7
8 9 8 5 AG Sucker , Jonas Brothers 1
9 6 6 33 Happier , Marshmello & Bastille 2
10 7 9 11 Middle Child , J. Cole 4
11 10 7 27 Shallow , Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper 1
12 11 12 38 Eastside , benny blanco, Halsey & Khalid 9
13 8 11 12 Thotiana , Blueface 8
14 12 10 18 Going Bad , Meek Mill Featuring Drake 6
15 17 17 12 Dancing With A Stranger , Sam Smith & Normani 15
16 16 18 29 Better , Khalid 16
17 13 14 35 High Hopes , Panic! At The Disco 4
18 14 15 8 Break Up With Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored , Ariana Grande 2
19 20 20 16 Sweet But Psycho , Ava Max 19
20 18 13 35 Sicko Mode , Travis Scott 1
21 19 16 11 Murder On My Mind , YNW Melly 14
22 22 21 15 A Lot , 21 Savage 12
23 23 22 45 Girls Like You , Maroon 5 Featuring Cardi B 1
24 21 19 22 Thank U, Next , Ariana Grande 1
25 41 46 10 Bury A Friend , Billie Eilish 14
26 25 25 21 Beautiful Crazy , Luke Combs 23
27 27 28 20 Close To Me , Ellie Goulding X Diplo Featuring Swae Lee 27
28 24 23 23 Be Alright , Dean Lewis 23
29 0 Re-Entry 21 When The Party's Over , Billie Eilish 29
30 26 24 29 Drip Too Hard , Lil Baby & Gunna 4
31 84 87 5 Wish You Were Gay , Billie Eilish 31
32 30 29 38 You Say , Lauren Daigle 29
33 31 34 10 Pure Water , Mustard & Migos 31
34 29 27 49 Better Now , Post Malone 3
35 0 New 1 Xanny , Billie Eilish 35
36 28 26 24 Money , Cardi B 13
37 35 36 17 Look Back At It , A Boogie Wit da Hoodie 32
38 36 39 16 Envy Me , Calboy 36
39 40 41 8 Talk , Khalid 39
40 32 33 44 Youngblood , 5 Seconds Of Summer 7
41 0 Re-Entry 2 You Should See Me In A Crown , Billie Eilish 41
42 33 37 14 Baby Shark , Pinkfong 32
43 0 New 1 My Strange Addiction , Billie Eilish 43
44 0 New 1 Racks In The Middle , Nipsey Hussle Featuring Roddy Ricch & Hit-Boy 44
45 34 30 25 MIA , Bad Bunny Featuring Drake 5
46 0 New 1 All The Good Girls Go To Hell , Billie Eilish 46
47 43 50 5 Act Up , City Girls 43
48 37 35 7 Robbery , Juice WRLD 27
49 38 31 25 ZEZE , Kodak Black Featuring Travis Scott & Offset 2
50 39 38 48 Tequila , Dan + Shay 21
51 51 53 13 Here Tonight , Brett Young 51
52 44 45 15 Swervin , A Boogie Wit da Hoodie Featuring 6ix9ine 38
53 0 New 1 I Love You , Billie Eilish 53
54 42 43 11 Mixed Personalities , YNW Melly Featuring Kanye West 42
55 53 79 4 Here With Me , Marshmello Featuring CHVRCHES 53
56 52 54 8 Who Do You Love , The Chainsmokers Featuring 5 Seconds Of Summer 52
57 46 49 10 Put A Date On It , Yo Gotti Featuring Lil Baby 46
58 49 48 9 Con Calma , Daddy Yankee Featuring Snow 48
59 0 New 1 God's Country , Blake Shelton 59
60 55 56 7 Worth It , YK Osiris 55
61 54 61 7 Eyes On You , Chase Rice 54
62 0 New 1 Ilomilo , Billie Eilish 62
63 0 New 1 Listen Before I Go , Billie Eilish 63
64 57 58 23 Close Friends , Lil Baby 28
65 0 New 1 Double Up , Nipsey Hussle Featuring Belly & DOM KENNEDY 65
66 56 59 6 Bad Liar , Imagine Dragons 56
67 66 75 5 Whiskey Glasses , Morgan Wallen 66
68 59 69 6 Good As You , Kane Brown 59
69 67 78 6 One That Got Away , Michael Ray 67
70 0 New 1 Monopoly , Ariana Grande & Victoria Monet 70
71 60 77 9 Miss Me More , Kelsea Ballerini 60
72 62 65 10 Shot Clock , Ella Mai 62
73 74 76 14 Make It Sweet , Old Dominion 73
74 69 80 5 Look What God Gave Her , Thomas Rhett 52
75 71 72 6 There Was This Girl , Riley Green 71
76 58 52 6 Girls Need Love , Summer Walker X Drake 37
77 61 68 4 Undrunk , FLETCHER 61
78 75 84 4 I've Been Waiting , Lil Peep & iLoveMakonnen Featuring Fall Out Boy 75
79 0 New 1 8, Billie Eilish 79
80 63 89 5 Walk Me Home , P!nk 54
81 73 70 9 Saturday Nights , Khalid & Kane Brown 57
82 0 New 1 Last Time That I Checc'd , Nipsey Hussle Featuring YG 82
83 50 51 13 Twerk , City Girls Featuring Cardi B 29
84 77 82 5 GIRL , Maren Morris 61
85 96 98 22 Lovely , Billie Eilish & Khalid 64
86 90 91 4 Calma , Pedro Capo X Farruko 86
87 0 New 1 Suge , DaBaby 87
88 81 85 7 Night Shift , Jon Pardi 81
89 68 64 17 This Is It , Scotty McCreery 42
90 83 88 4 Rumor , Lee Brice 83
91 85 66 5 I Can't Get Enough , benny blanco, Tainy, Selena Gomez & J Balvin 66
92 97 – 2 Don't Call Me Up , Mabel 92
93 0 New 1 Dedication , Nipsey Hussle Featuring Kendrick Lamar 93
94 0 Re-Entry 7 Ocean Eyes , Billie Eilish 94
95 64 47 17 Millionaire , Chris Stapleton 47
96 88 93 7 Talk You Out Of It , Florida Georgia Line 80
97 87 90 6 Faucet Failure , Ski Mask The Slump God 87
98 76 74 19 Girl Like You , Jason Aldean 46
99 70 57 15 Pure Cocaine , Lil Baby 46
100 95 – 2 Pop Out , Polo G Featuring Lil Tjay 95
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Hot 100 Recurrents
This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak
1 1 1 27 #1 21 wks Perfect , Ed Sheeran 1
2 3 2 59 Believer , Imagine Dragons 1
3 2 3 24 Meant To Be , Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line 1
4 0 New 1 I Like It , Cardi B, Bad Bunny & J Balvin 4
5 4 6 25 Moonlight , XXXTENTACION 2
6 0 New 1 Lucid Dreams , Juice WRLD 6
7 0 New 1 Taki Taki , DJ Snake Featuring Selena Gomez, Ozuna & Cardi B 7
8 6 5 18 The Middle , Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey 3
9 5 7 8 Speechless , Dan + Shay 5
10 7 11 8 Love Lies , Khalid & Normani 6
11 9 10 18 I Like Me Better , Lauv 3
12 13 14 45 Thunder , Imagine Dragons 1
13 10 13 19 Psycho , Post Malone Featuring Ty Dolla $ign 4
14 15 17 35 Havana , Camila Cabello Featuring Young Thug 1
15 17 18 52 Shape Of You , Ed Sheeran 1
16 20 21 11 She Got The Best Of Me , Luke Combs 10
17 12 9 8 Trip , Ella Mai 5
18 16 15 16 Taste , Tyga Featuring Offset 5
19 8 4 3 Wake Up In The Sky , Gucci Mane X Bruno Mars X Kodak Black 4
20 18 16 17 Delicate , Taylor Swift 4
21 11 8 4 Mo Bamba , Sheck Wes 7
22 21 19 41 Feel It Still , Portugal. The Man 4
23 14 12 4 Leave Me Alone , Flipp Dinero 6
24 19 20 17 In My Feelings , Drake 1
25 22 22 27 God's Plan , Drake 5
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