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Post by heybren22 on Aug 14, 2019 23:08:17 GMT -5
There was a sponsored post from this song on my instagram feed, I don't recall ever seeing Spotify ads in there. I think they're going full force on promo, but it's not connecting at all. It's a shame, coz it grew on me, I really like it now.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 14, 2019 23:50:13 GMT -5
There was a sponsored post from this song on my instagram feed, I don't recall ever seeing Spotify ads in there. I think they're going full force on promo, but it's not connecting at all. It's a shame, coz it grew on me, I really like it now. It’s early still. Wait until the adds date and the video to come before completely writing it off. It’s a great, singable song. Just isn’t instant and takes a bit to grow. I definitely think it’s better than Unconditionally and Bon Appetit (as a single). Not better than Hot N Cold or Teenage Dream.
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Post by aussie1 on Aug 15, 2019 0:41:21 GMT -5
Predicted to debut at #85 on the hot 100, which is what 365 debuted (and peaked) at if memory serves correctly.
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Post by chinacandy on Aug 15, 2019 1:08:04 GMT -5
This is dead on arrival, with an almost non-existent hook.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 15, 2019 1:19:37 GMT -5
Predicted to debut at #85 on the hot 100, which is what 365 debuted (and peaked) at if memory serves correctly. 365 debuted and peaked at #86, so this would be one spot above it. Reminder this held worse than 365 on iTunes, so this could potentially debut lower. However it's streaming is better, so it could debut higher. I'm not sure. Either way its obviously a major step down from the #15 debut of NRO, I think the main issue is the label not sending it to radio immediately. Also not releasing a video, at launch NRO had a radio deal, music video and a lot of promo. This doesn't really have anything to carry it right now, aside from Katy's name (lol). I'm assuming the label wanted to drag some more longevity out of Small Talk, instead of pulling all their cards at once with NRO. I'm sure she has tons of late night promo in September, but all of this likely won't revive the track honestly. It just doesn't seem to be connecting, even though I love the song. If this doesn't pick up in a month or so I would just ditch it and move onto Harley's.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 15, 2019 1:51:41 GMT -5
This is dead on arrival, with an almost non-existent hook. There are many hooks.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 15, 2019 2:48:56 GMT -5
I'm actually starting to like this.
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Post by surfy on Aug 15, 2019 2:54:11 GMT -5
on repeated listens, this is better than i initially gave it credit for, but it's still incredibly bland and forgettable - especially after the earworm that was NRO (for me, at least). the verses are clunky and overall i'm not dying to listen to it often.
i don't expect this to be a huge commercial success, but i expect it to do decently. really ready for Harleys in Hawaii!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 5:57:56 GMT -5
I usually only pay attention to Apple Music stats, and this song is not doing as well as NRO initially. I hope this somehow becomes a sleeper hit and that is not the "best" they got left.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 15, 2019 8:06:54 GMT -5
I usually only pay attention to Apple Music stats, and this song is doing as well as NRO initially. I hope this somehow becomes a sleeper hit and that is not the "best" they got left. Well she’s 5 for 5 with me since Witness, so I’m hoping no. Cozy Little Christmas 365 Con Calma NRO Small Talk all great, imo.
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Post by NeRD on Aug 15, 2019 13:35:06 GMT -5
Any news on the third single?
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Post by james518 on Aug 15, 2019 14:20:33 GMT -5
This has grown on me immensely. I wish the final chorus production carried through a bit more though!
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 15, 2019 16:46:35 GMT -5
#80 iTunes #50 Spotify
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Aug 15, 2019 17:47:14 GMT -5
Sorry to burst Spree’s bubble but Katy is all but done. She’s desperately tried to rebound with Zedd/Daddy Yankee but it’s a mix of her age/shtick not being marketable or relevant anymore. Her last album (and that horrible pixie cut) just killed all hype and momentum and good will she had left. Also note that she’s 34 trying to be relevant on CHR who is obviously ageist af. They literally put a shelf life on these pop girls and Katy long passed hers.
I’m interested to see how long Ariana can last up top. If she keeps churning music out and doesn’t make a huge misstep, I’m curious to see if CHR will cut her off like they have done with so many before (Britney, Kelly, Beyoncé, Mariah, Madonna, etc)
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Aug 15, 2019 19:41:21 GMT -5
She’s just 34. Janet has one of her biggest hit ALL FOR YOU in her 30s. So I’m not worry for Ms. Perry to make a comeback.
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Post by gabe on Aug 15, 2019 19:44:48 GMT -5
Sorry to burst Spree’s bubble but Katy is all but done. She’s desperately tried to rebound with Zedd/Daddy Yankee but it’s a mix of her age/shtick not being marketable or relevant anymore. Her last album (and that horrible pixie cut) just killed all hype and momentum and good will she had left. Also note that she’s 34 trying to be relevant on CHR who is obviously ageist af. They literally put a shelf life on these pop girls and Katy long passed hers. I’m interested to see how long Ariana can last up top. If she keeps churning music out and doesn’t make a huge misstep, I’m curious to see if CHR will cut her off like they have done with so many before (Britney, Kelly, Beyoncé, Mariah, Madonna, etc) In the past few months Katy has sent songs to #15 and #22... I'm not sure what you're going on about but okay.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Aug 15, 2019 20:47:33 GMT -5
Sorry to burst Spree’s bubble but Katy is all but done. She’s desperately tried to rebound with Zedd/Daddy Yankee but it’s a mix of her age/shtick not being marketable or relevant anymore. Her last album (and that horrible pixie cut) just killed all hype and momentum and good will she had left. Also note that she’s 34 trying to be relevant on CHR who is obviously ageist af. They literally put a shelf life on these pop girls and Katy long passed hers. I’m interested to see how long Ariana can last up top. If she keeps churning music out and doesn’t make a huge misstep, I’m curious to see if CHR will cut her off like they have done with so many before (Britney, Kelly, Beyoncé, Mariah, Madonna, etc) In the past few months Katy has sent songs to #15 and #22... I'm not sure what you're going on about but okay. Lol a shadow of her past pop performance. You’re trying to tell me a #15 and #22 is acceptable for someone of her caliber. Let me preface by saying I really enjoy Katy’s music before the tragedy that was Witness. She was at the top of the game during the TD/Prism eras. It’s just sad to see her current state. Maybe she needs to make the transition to HAC like Kelly and Pink did.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Aug 15, 2019 20:55:23 GMT -5
I didn't remember "365" performed that bad on Hot 100
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Post by Caviar on Aug 15, 2019 21:53:42 GMT -5
Katy will be fined. Stay pressed.
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Post by Anticonformity on Aug 16, 2019 1:19:35 GMT -5
Katy will be fined. Stay pressed. A Freudian slip?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 16, 2019 1:21:07 GMT -5
Between the Dark Horse lawsuit and the sexual harassment allegations, I'm sure she will be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 2:13:26 GMT -5
Idk why but I found this too boring for my liking NRO still hasn't like really clicked with me either
Only thing from Katy I really liked was Con Calma, but I liked that before the remix anyways
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Post by aussie1 on Aug 16, 2019 2:54:05 GMT -5
In the past few months Katy has sent songs to #15 and #22... I'm not sure what you're going on about but okay. Lol a shadow of her past pop performance. You’re trying to tell me a #15 and #22 is acceptable for someone of her caliber. Let me preface by saying I really enjoy Katy’s music before the tragedy that was Witness. She was at the top of the game during the TD/Prism eras. It’s just sad to see her current state. Maybe she needs to make the transition to HAC like Kelly and Pink did. Katy is far past her peak obviously. Her getting a song to #15 and #22 is a win. We need to lower our expectations when it comes to Katy, she isn't the same person she was at the start of the decade. So yes it is "acceptable". What is "acceptable" for some other artists?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 16, 2019 6:24:57 GMT -5
In the past few months Katy has sent songs to #15 and #22... I'm not sure what you're going on about but okay. Lol a shadow of her past pop performance. You’re trying to tell me a #15 and #22 is acceptable for someone of her caliber. Let me preface by saying I really enjoy Katy’s music before the tragedy that was Witness. She was at the top of the game during the TD/Prism eras. It’s just sad to see her current state. Maybe she needs to make the transition to HAC like Kelly and Pink did. Beyoncé’s calibre is much higher and she can’t even do those numbers with her singles so what are you on about?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 16, 2019 8:03:03 GMT -5
Katy got a Top 10 on Pop. That’s a huge win. 365 is one of my favorite songs from her and it flopped. So what? She’s continued to make quality ever since Witness and I am a happy fan.
Besides, I stan Madonna, so I am immune to the feelings of flopping. Sorry and Get Together flopped and they are greater than any Pop girl’s output so I’m not bothered.
All I really want is a good gym mix and so far Katy has delivered.
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Post by AP on Aug 16, 2019 8:19:31 GMT -5
There’s a vertical video for this on Spotify’s Today’s Top Hits playlist.
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Post by Choco on Aug 16, 2019 9:18:54 GMT -5
I think this means very little for Katy. It's such an underperformance that they can probably get away with callig it a promo single and move on to the Harleys song.
Granted we don't know how radio responds to it next week but all the signs so far are not encouraging.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 16, 2019 14:25:36 GMT -5
Currently #118 on itunes and #49 on Spotify.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 15:10:16 GMT -5
This sucks which is disappointing after NRO being her best single in years. Charlie Puth infects everything he touches
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Post by Suono on Aug 17, 2019 12:08:58 GMT -5
This is doing worse than bon appetit, yes? :(
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