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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 17, 2019 13:03:09 GMT -5
This is doing worse than bon appetit, yes? :( It technically hasn't gone for adds yet or had an official video so we don't know yet. I do think Itunes is worse-not sure about streaming.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 13:45:04 GMT -5
it's a non-event, somehow her second singles are dead herrings in the pot, commercially not musically, bon appetit was excellent
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 17, 2019 14:21:59 GMT -5
it's a non-event, somehow her second singles are dead herrings in the pot, commercially not musically, bon appetit was excellent It will still get 50 to 100 adds on Tues.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 17, 2019 14:23:25 GMT -5
I kinda don't think it will. Usually songs that get huge adds numbers either had a premiere deal or the hype was enormous (if not both). This has neither going for it.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Aug 17, 2019 14:46:37 GMT -5
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 17, 2019 16:24:32 GMT -5
This is doing worse than bon appetit, yes? :( It technically hasn't gone for adds yet or had an official video so we don't know yet. I do think Itunes is worse-not sure about streaming. #59 Spotify (US) / #55 (Global) Outside of top 100 on Apple Music (#253 per Kworb) and iTunes (#187)
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Post by Choco on Aug 17, 2019 20:40:46 GMT -5
Yeah the writing's kinda on the wall already... I will hold out some hope for the adds date but otherwise I'm glad we have another single ready and waiting.
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Post by aussie1 on Aug 18, 2019 0:46:41 GMT -5
Debuts at #33 in Australia which is pretty good.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 18, 2019 2:00:38 GMT -5
I think already the idea of releasing the song by Charlie Puth of all people indicates that Katy & her team are not going to take any risks this era. Sadly this was a bland and basic song, not just basic conceptually.
If she wants to go this route, I'd prefer a duet with Sam Smith or sth.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 18, 2019 8:00:29 GMT -5
Yeah the writing's kinda on the wall already... I will hold out some hope for the adds date but otherwise I'm glad we have another single ready and waiting. It's a flop because Choco says so. The song goes for adds Tues, too early to give up.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 18, 2019 10:57:21 GMT -5
Yeah the writing's kinda on the wall already... I will hold out some hope for the adds date but otherwise I'm glad we have another single ready and waiting. It's a flop because Choco says so. The song goes for adds Tues, too early to give up. A bit aggressive, yeah? Great, let the song go for adds. Guess what? Still didn’t connect with the general public instantly. Her label might push this hard, but congrats to Katy then on having an artificial semi hit.
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Post by Okay on Aug 18, 2019 11:06:05 GMT -5
While I love Attention, How Long and The Way I Am, Charlie is really the only one who really pulls off his style of songwriting. When other artists do it it sounds awful. This and Easier are both extremely meh.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 18, 2019 11:17:35 GMT -5
I just don’t think this is a good song. I think the potential was there but it doesn’t flow or have enough to grab the listener - and the writing is actually really not great. Good concept, easy to follow, but poor execution.
I’m a defender of Katy’s song. Swish Swish should have been a smash. Bon Appetite was catchy (though not a good single choice) and Chained To The Rhythm (insert *she got what she deserves* gif here). But this song: it’s just not good.
Scrap it now and go for a new choice. It’s not too late.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 1:27:49 GMT -5
yeah this is out of itunes top 100, so move on
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 19, 2019 6:26:04 GMT -5
This is not good.
71 55 KATY PERRY Small Talk 311 161 150 1.190
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 6:35:34 GMT -5
This is not good. 71 55 KATY PERRY Small Talk 311 161 150 1.190 Will it go higher than Bon Appetit is the big question.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Aug 19, 2019 8:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Aug 19, 2019 10:18:19 GMT -5
Yeah the writing's kinda on the wall already... I will hold out some hope for the adds date but otherwise I'm glad we have another single ready and waiting. It's a flop because Choco says so. The song goes for adds Tues, too early to give up. WTF is your problem? I'm seriously asking. It's a flop because it's flopping dear. The adds date is a last beacon of hope but after like 10 #1 hits, radio probably knows Katy enough to know there's a new single. They just don't care about the song. The rejection here from almost all platforms screams "next single pls".
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Post by AP on Aug 19, 2019 14:21:34 GMT -5
They really should pull this and release a new track after Labor Day. This is incredibly DOA (and honestly is making Never Really Over look like quite the success)
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Post by Taylor. on Aug 19, 2019 15:46:51 GMT -5
Debuts at #81 on the Hot 100
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 19, 2019 17:00:40 GMT -5
Debuts at #81 on the Hot 100 For context, Bon Appétit debuted at #76.
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Post by toomuchboy on Aug 19, 2019 17:40:38 GMT -5
I don't mind this, although it's nowhere in the vicinity of NRO and 365. Not as big a drop in quality for me as getting served BA after CttR tho.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 19, 2019 17:45:02 GMT -5
Debuts at #81 on the Hot 100 For context, Bon Appétit debuted at #76. For context, 365 debuted at #86 earlier this year when it was the first KP single to chart since 2017. She's doing just fine.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 19, 2019 17:50:15 GMT -5
When it comes to that portion of the chart, the positions are so close together it doesn't really matter which is slightly higher than the other, but what it does show is that initial interest in the track isn't very good.
I'm team scrap this immediately and release something else. This is a cute album track, but a single it is not. Even with the adds date having yet to happen, I doubt it'll even make the top 40 on pop at this point if they carried out with it. And this is probably it's only week on the Hot 100.
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Post by Choco on Aug 19, 2019 19:03:48 GMT -5
Leonagwen coming for me for saying this is flopping yet people are here arguing whether a #86 hit is more impressive than #81.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 19, 2019 19:16:35 GMT -5
For context, Bon Appétit debuted at #76. For context, 365 debuted at #86 earlier this year when it was the first KP single to chart since 2017. She's doing just fine. What part of your sentence reinforces “she’s doing fine”?
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Post by kimberly on Aug 19, 2019 20:55:05 GMT -5
For context, 365 debuted at #86 earlier this year when it was the first KP single to chart since 2017. She's doing just fine. What part of your sentence reinforces “she’s doing fine”? Her debut positions have improved this year. Her public image has been vastly rebranded and even the "365" to "Small Talk" debuts show an improvement. No need to compare anything to "Bon Appetit" and imply she's flopping, because she isn't. Witness was a flop. This is the aftermath, and she's doing just fine. There. I thought it was obvious what I meant but if you ask nicely, you get a longer explanation.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 19, 2019 21:10:50 GMT -5
I’ve refrained from commenting so far, but I feel like I actually have an opinion now. This is nowhere near as awesome as NRO. However, it should be noted that pop radio listeners didn’t share our affinity for NRO. Maybe this is more what they want? I will say that I find this song stuck in my head all the time, despite not seeking it intentionally. It’s an inoffensive ear-worm.
I do feel like for a real smash hit, Katy is going to need the quality of NRO mixed with the accessibility of this.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 19, 2019 21:25:19 GMT -5
Leonagwen coming for me for saying this is flopping yet people are here arguing whether a #86 hit is more impressive than #81. How is a song supposed to do good on iTunes or Spotify if most people aren't aware that the song is even out their? It's going for adds tomorrow, will probably get 50 to 100 adds. I know it doesn't look good right now but you never know, with airplay, maybe the #s will improve.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 19, 2019 21:28:17 GMT -5
Again with the 50+ adds prediction? Based on what? This didn't have a premiere deal to fuel its adds count, and NRO was not exactly a runaway pop smash. What incentive does radio have to turn out in droves, her name alone?
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