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Post by wjr15 on Aug 12, 2019 9:50:28 GMT -5
One thing Iβm a little confused about is Capitol promoting Small Talk when a music video was clearly shot for Harleys In Hawaii last month.
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Aug 12, 2019 10:52:55 GMT -5
One thing Iβm a little confused about is Capitol promoting Small Talk when a music video was clearly shot for Harleys In Hawaii last month. Why? They just wanted to shoot the video for the upcoming single when Katyβs available. It doesnβt mean they have to release it right away. We didnβt know that Katy did βSmall Talkβ video, didnβt we? :) Iβm excited to see the vertical video & the official music video. I like this song a lot.
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Post by wjr15 on Aug 12, 2019 10:58:14 GMT -5
One thing Iβm a little confused about is Capitol promoting Small Talk when a music video was clearly shot for Harleys In Hawaii last month. Why? They just wanted to shoot the video for the upcoming single when Katyβs available. It doesnβt mean they have to release it right away. We didnβt know that Katy did βSmall Talkβ video, didnβt we? :) Iβm excited to see the vertical video & the official music video. I like this song a lot. Good point. I completely forgot about Idol coming back which takes up a lot of time.
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Post by heybren22 on Aug 12, 2019 19:54:16 GMT -5
Why did this jump from #29 last night to #9 on iTunes tonight? but hey, I'm not complaining lol
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 12, 2019 21:42:16 GMT -5
Why did this jump from #29 last night to #9 on iTunes tonight? but hey, I'm not complaining lol Its #39 for me. Promo needs to kick in ... like now.
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Post by itsaboutart on Aug 12, 2019 22:31:49 GMT -5
This song is so boring. Pity because never really over was so good and gained her such good will . Move right on Katy Perry
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Aug 12, 2019 23:27:14 GMT -5
I feel like if the production hit hard throughout the whole song like it does the last 30 seconds I would like this so much more. That last chorus is pure perfection but the rest of the song takes too long to pick up - I donβt love the acapella Charlie Puth inspired parts. The BLAH BLAH BLAH part isnβt very good. But itβs grown on me so much already so weβll see how this one plays out. Just hope others give it that chance to grow on them before skipping it.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 13, 2019 2:11:27 GMT -5
I feel like if the production hit hard throughout the whole song like it does the last 30 seconds I would like this so much more. That last chorus is pure perfection but the rest of the song takes too long to pick up - I donβt love the acapella Charlie Puth inspired parts. The BLAH BLAH BLAH part isnβt very good. But itβs grown on me so much already so weβll see how this one plays out. Just hope others give it that chance to grow on them before skipping it. People on this forum like to knock down an artist when they think their down, but c'mon, Katy just had a song peak at #10 on mediabase,and when this song goes for adds next week and gets between 50 to 100 adds, people will jump back on the bandwagon.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 13, 2019 3:22:23 GMT -5
You think people are that simple?
Ok.
Also, haven't seen people knocking her down, just saying that this is not among her best tracks and might struggle to become a success.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Aug 13, 2019 17:20:47 GMT -5
Receives nine adds this week prior its impact date next week, including KIIS-FM and B96 Chicago.
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Post by jodakyellow on Aug 13, 2019 20:00:51 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy.
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Post by Eloqueenβ’ on Aug 14, 2019 1:39:55 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy. Firstly, expecitations for a brand new artist and one of America's biggest pop hit-makers are two different things, though I would find this clunky and mediocre from even a new artist. "Never Really Over" was a solid single, but this doesn't even begin to touch it.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 14, 2019 1:46:21 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy. Exactly. I think Katy rebranding herself is almost like a new artist breaking into the scene, and both singles had a similar yet unique indie/alt quality to them between the DAGNY sample and restrained production here. I am liking this a lot more the more I listen to it, quickly becoming one of my favorites at the moment.
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Post by itsaboutart on Aug 14, 2019 2:25:47 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy. I think it takes a better song for a new artist to break through with. If this was by a new artist no one would be playing this
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 14, 2019 4:25:27 GMT -5
Where's the "indie" in the single by the biggest hitmakers in the world lmao
I don't mean Katy and Puth but Carlsson has written songs for Flo Rida, Ariana Grande and One Direction, Hindlin for Britney, Kylie and Fifth Harmony and even for some country artists (Look What God Gave Her for instance). You can't get more pop radio friendly than that tbh.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 14, 2019 5:55:18 GMT -5
β 63 KATY PERRY Small Talk 248 0 248 1.423
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Post by theflying on Aug 14, 2019 12:16:53 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy. Huh? This is the most Katy Perry has sounded like herself since, like, Teenage Dream.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 14, 2019 12:24:35 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy. Huh? This is the most Katy Perry has sounded like herself since, like, Teenage Dream. exactly. This seems like the natural progression from the first half of Prism. In fact, I think the combo of NRO/ST is better than Roar/Unconditionally. The album is going to be fantastic, and I hope they add 365 to it.
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Post by Choco on Aug 14, 2019 12:30:05 GMT -5
I'm here for her to try a slow and steady build with this. Every major star seems to be debuting inside top 30 these days and by week 10 the songs already feel overplayed.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 14, 2019 13:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get the "it sounds indie" talk. This sounds very Katy Perry to me in a way that her last cd didn't, for both singles with slightly more updated production to fit into the contemporary sound. I don't get small indie alternative sound out of these songs lol.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 14, 2019 13:51:14 GMT -5
Where's the "indie" in the single by the biggest hitmakers in the world lmao I don't mean Katy and Puth but Carlsson has written songs for Flo Rida, Ariana Grande and One Direction, Hindlin for Britney, Kylie and Fifth Harmony and even for some country artists (Look What God Gave Her for instance). You can't get more pop radio friendly than that tbh. NRO literally samples an indie-pop song. Small Talk has a raw feeling (apparently some of the beat is Charlie beatboxing, maybe that's why) but it is in a similar vein topically and production-wise with some of the big indie-pop singers of today. Also helping: Katy's current 70's/back to the future aesthetics. Again, I think everyone knows for a fact that Katy Perry cannot make indie music by definition. It's just reminiscent of that, in a Julia Michaels, Tove Lo, Carly Rae Jepsen-y way.
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Post by theflying on Aug 14, 2019 14:17:23 GMT -5
Erm, are trying -- and failing -- to articulate that *Katy Perry* is just *following current pop music trends*...which is *currently taking its cue from more minimalist-indie pop*?
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Post by kimberly on Aug 14, 2019 14:26:38 GMT -5
Erm, are trying -- and failing -- to articulate that *Katy Perry* is just *following current pop music trends*...which is *currently taking its cue from more minimalist-indie pop*? None of the artist I mentioned are charting (when all of them released singles this year to no commercial love), and I don't think the current pop trends right now lean towards minimalist indie pop. I can only think of Billie Eilish who's riding that wave right now.
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Aug 14, 2019 15:08:55 GMT -5
Where's the "indie" in the single by the biggest hitmakers in the world lmao I don't mean Katy and Puth but Carlsson has written songs for Flo Rida, Ariana Grande and One Direction, Hindlin for Britney, Kylie and Fifth Harmony and even for some country artists (Look What God Gave Her for instance). You can't get more pop radio friendly than that tbh. NRO literally samples an indie-pop song. Small Talk has a raw feeling (apparently some of the beat is Charlie beatboxing, maybe that's why) but it is in a similar vein topically and production-wise with some of the big indie-pop singers of today. Also helping: Katy's current 70's/back to the future aesthetics. Again, I think everyone knows for a fact that Katy Perry cannot make indie music by definition. It's just reminiscent of that, in a Julia Michaels, Tove Lo, Carly Rae Jepsen-y way. None f those acts are indie. They are just unsuccessful and on major labels.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 15:10:52 GMT -5
NRO was cute but this is really forgettable. Her and her team are clearly having a hard time figuring out where exactly she fits in the current music climate which is understandable.
Ever since TD, Katy has always represented the carefree American dream-girl imo, not to get all deep but the dark turn the US is taking almost goes hand in hand with how lost her image seems. Pop music is pretty dark and weird now (billie e.), the model of the early 00s perfect "on a pedestal" popstar (Britney/Christina) then new decade quirky "down to earth" popstar (Katy and Taylor too, in a sense) all seem dead now.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 14, 2019 15:28:45 GMT -5
NRO was cute but this is really forgettable. Her and her team are clearly having a hard time figuring out where exactly she fits in the current music climate which is understandable. Ever since TD, Katy has always represented the carefree American dream-girl imo, not to get all deep but the dark turn the US is taking almost goes hand in hand with how lost her image seems. Pop music is pretty dark and weird now (billie e.), the model of the early 00s perfect "on a pedestal" popstar (Britney/Christina) then new decade quirky "down to earth" popstar (Katy and Taylor too, in a sense) all seem dead now. This is so on point! Adding to this that Taylor is too successful to fall on a "just top 20/40" level yet (she was there in her country days too) but she is losing her audience bit by bit with each era. However,all it takes for her is to change musically and return to her roots so to say. For Katy, it's much more difficult* *that said, charts are not everything, one can happily make pop music and be fairy successful even without getting hits (CRJ and others).
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 14, 2019 15:53:53 GMT -5
If a new indie pop artist were to drop this as their very first single, most people here would be like, βoh cool Iβm gonna keep an eye on this person.β I feel like people are reacting so negatively because it barely resembles (if at all) the kind of music weβve come to expect from Katy. You say that like itβs a negative. People expect different things from different artists. What I want from a good Katy Perry song is vastly different than what Iβd want from a good Lady Gaga song or a good Brandi Carlile song. With that said, Witness wasnβt what I expected or necessarily wanted from Katy but I liked it. So
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Post by kimberly on Aug 14, 2019 16:30:07 GMT -5
NRO literally samples an indie-pop song.Β Small Talk has a raw feeling (apparently some of the beat is Charlie beatboxing, maybe that's why) but it is in a similar vein topically and production-wise with some of the big indie-pop singers of today. Also helping: Katy's current 70's/back to the future aesthetics. Again, I think everyone knows for a fact that Katy Perry cannot make indie music by definition. It's just reminiscent of that, in a Julia Michaels, Tove Lo, Carly Rae Jepsen-y way. None f those acts are indie. They are just unsuccessful and on major labels. And who said they were indie? Learn to read. They all have the indie feel in their current music is what I said. Anyway this βindie-feelingβ conversation seems like it wonβt go anywhere productive so maybe letβs just stop? I like Small Talk.
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Post by jodakyellow on Aug 14, 2019 16:43:49 GMT -5
Jesus Christ Iβm sorry I brought it up.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 14, 2019 19:18:04 GMT -5
In the 60s on iTunes. I really thought people would be more into this. While NRO is vastly superior, I use this, too!
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