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Post by Mayman on Dec 10, 2019 9:07:04 GMT -5
Lucid Dreams was added to Today's Top Hits, although at the very bottom of the playlist.
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Post by JamaicaFunkΒ² on Dec 10, 2019 9:22:47 GMT -5
"Lucid Dreams" going number 1 would be so damn cool. It spent several weeks at number 2 and barely missed out, so this would rectify that. What is odd is that whether LD or AIWFCIY goes to #1, they will be the slowest climb to #1 ever (based on # of weeks on the Hot 100). How strange that one of the songs will achieve that and re-write chart history. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:23:05 GMT -5
He just turned 21 a week ago. He's a child. It doesn't matter if it's his fault or not. Heβs not a child. Heβs able to vote, drink, drive a car, etc. We shouldnβt be celebrating someone who makes horrible decisions. You're just absolutely not a good human being at all. There is something deeply wrong with you and maybe you make correct decisions and seek help for it. |
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Post by tuna on Dec 10, 2019 9:25:06 GMT -5
It'll be interesting if Lucid Dreams lingers long enough to make the 2020 year end. That'll make it one of the only songs to end up on 3 year-ends in a row. (I don't know if any other songs have done this)
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Post by Choco on Dec 10, 2019 10:09:27 GMT -5
Can't see any impact for his material going much further than this week. He was no Michael Jackson in terms of impact.
Are streams big enough for it to challenge #1? Airplay will be marginal at best.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 10, 2019 10:10:32 GMT -5
Marie Fredriksson and Juice will split streams. Maybe this could help All I Want For Christmas Is You. This makes no sense at all and is stupid anyway. Stop |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 10, 2019 10:14:24 GMT -5
I donβt know whatβs worse in these threads. The constant jizzfest that is year end charts from January to November, the collective creaming that happens whenever an artist dies, or the new obsession over how Christmas is ruining charts.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 10, 2019 10:25:00 GMT -5
^You should already know how many PM members think at this point.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 10, 2019 10:26:49 GMT -5
Letβs get back on topic. I personally think that once AIWFCIY gets its #1 spot, Billboard needs a major change in its formula to prevent more Christmas songs from charting higher and killing the non-holiday songs chances to rise on the Hot 100. Thatβs my personal take. Sadly, I agree with this. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for Mariah to score her 19th #1 with her most popular song ever (so fitting!), and break all sorts of records. But once that's done, I really don't look forward to the same songs charting again and again every holiday season, or even Mariah hitting #1 year after year. I love her to bits, but you can absolutely have too much of a good thing. But then thatβs not a true reflection of whatβs popular in a given week. Any song, no matter how old, should be able to chart of it earns enough points. It should be that simple. |
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Post by tuna on Dec 10, 2019 10:34:00 GMT -5
I don't think it's that simple. I personally am not that angry at Christmas songs- they come and clog up the charts for a few weeks and then they all disappear in one week and everything else gets a boost. I don't think they should be included in year-end charts, however, since they aren't really indicative of the music of 2020, or 2021, or 2022 once Mariah's return becomes a regular thing.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 10, 2019 10:36:42 GMT -5
^Well, if AIWFCIY manages to get into one then we will have a discussion.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 10, 2019 10:39:17 GMT -5
I don't think it's that simple. I personally am not that angry at Christmas songs- they come and clog up the charts for a few weeks and then they all disappear in one week and everything else gets a boost. I don't think they should be included in year-end charts, however, since they aren't really indicative of the music of 2020, or 2021, or 2022 once Mariah's return becomes a regular thing. Iβm sorry but that doesnβt make sense to me. If a song gains enough points to make it to a chart, any chart, then it is indicative of being that popular that year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 10:44:14 GMT -5
This thread is not at all in the Christmas spirit! A sad sign of the state of the world!
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 10, 2019 10:45:59 GMT -5
^Well, if AIWFCIY manages to get into one then we will have a discussion. Well... Billboard 2019 Year-End charts: Billboard 200191 Merry Christmas Catalog Albums41 Merry Christmas Streaming Songs74 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 72 Merry Christmas Top R&B Albums24 Merry Christmas |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 10, 2019 10:48:20 GMT -5
I don't think it's that simple. I personally am not that angry at Christmas songs- they come and clog up the charts for a few weeks and then they all disappear in one week and everything else gets a boost. I don't think they should be included in year-end charts, however, since they aren't really indicative of the music of 2020, or 2021, or 2022 once Mariah's return becomes a regular thing. What makes year-end charts so special? They year-end charts the same as week charts other than they measure a larger period of time. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 10, 2019 10:50:32 GMT -5
Sadly, I agree with this. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for Mariah to score her 19th #1 with her most popular song ever (so fitting!), and break all sorts of records. But once that's done, I reallyΒ don't look forward to the same songs charting again and again every holiday season, or even Mariah hitting #1 year after year. I love her to bits, but you can absolutely have too much of a good thing.Β Yep, thatβs why the Hot 100 needs to return back to the time where Christmas songs donβt occupy multiple spots in the top 40. So you'd rather prefer the charts to be inaccurate. I don't mind older songs entering the charts again if that's what people are actually listening to. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 10, 2019 11:10:08 GMT -5
Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/12/10
1(=) Lizzo - Good as Hell 132.26(+0.42) 2(=) Post Malone - Circles 123.49(+0.51) 3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 112.06(-0.72) 4(=) Maroon 5 - Memories 105.82(+1.81)
5(+1) Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 94.15(+1.34) 6(-1) SHAED - Trampoline 93.63(-0.40) 7(=) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 93.28(+0.72) 8(=) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 82.27(-1.26)
9(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 76.08(-1.40) 10(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 74.61(-0.74)
19(+1) Thomas Rhett - Remember You Young 57.70(+0.75)
22(+1) Taylor Swift - Lover 49.57(+0.80) 27(=) Layton Greene, Lil Baby & City Girls - Leave Em Alone (feat. PnB Rock) 46.81(+0.70)
28(=) Dustin Lynch - Ridin' Roads 45.22(+0.74)
34(+3) Tones and I - Dance Monkey 42.36(+0.89)
38(+3) The Weeknd - Heartless 38.45(+2.58)
42(=) Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE 36.85(+1.81) 77(+3) DaBaby - BOP 21.04(+0.70)
93(+8) Harry Styles - Adore You 18.02(+2.16) 100(+5) Billie Eilish - everything i wanted 16.47(+1.00) -(-) The Black Eyed Peas & J Balvin - RITMO (Bad Boys for Life) 16.39(+0.71) -(-) Tory Lanez & T-Pain - Jerry Sprunger 9.33(+0.71) -(-) Juice WRLD & YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Bandit 6.62(+0.77)
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 10, 2019 11:11:05 GMT -5
Can this damn Xmas song or βLDβ get to number one already so this entire convo. can f*ck off!
Lord.
In other news:
I wonder what βBIGβ artist is going to release in early January?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 10, 2019 11:29:19 GMT -5
This new song that just debuted by someone named Don Toliver is like a mediocre Swae Lee knockoff mixed with a mediocre Travis Scott knockoff
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Post by tanooki on Dec 10, 2019 11:29:55 GMT -5
Yall, there's literally a thread (that is now STICKIED SO YA CANT MISS IT) to go ramble your slightly-racist bs in
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Post by shaz196 on Dec 10, 2019 11:38:04 GMT -5
This new song that just debuted by someone named Don Toliver is like a mediocre Swae Lee knockoff mixed with a mediocre Travis Scott knockoff Don Toliver is Travis Scott's artist and that song is likely a single from Travis's label compilation album Jack Boys due to drop this month. |
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Post by dynamac on Dec 10, 2019 11:38:09 GMT -5
This new song that just debuted by someone named Don Toliver is like a mediocre Swae Lee knockoff mixed with a mediocre Travis Scott knockoff Heβs Travisβ protΓ©gΓ©e, so expect to see more of him especially when Jack Boys rolls around EDIT: lol somebody beat me to it by a few seconds |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 10, 2019 11:40:02 GMT -5
^Well, if AIWFCIY manages to get into one then we will have a discussion. Well... Probably should have said the Hot 100 Year-End since that's most people seem to be concerned about. |
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Post by sheardbeard on Dec 10, 2019 11:45:14 GMT -5
Possible dumb question: are the currently charting Frozen II soundtrack songs considered holiday songs?
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Post by weirdo on Dec 10, 2019 12:09:03 GMT -5
Possible dumb question: are the currently charting Frozen II soundtrack songs considered holiday songs? I doubt it and i hope not. These songs (espevially Into The Unknown) will probably be on thr charts well after Christmas |
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Post by kimberly on Dec 10, 2019 12:14:47 GMT -5
Possible dumb question: are the currently charting Frozen II soundtrack songs considered holiday songs? I don't recall "Let It Go" being considered as such. It's really easy to associate Frozen with Christmas, but I don't see how it could be considered Christmas/Holiday music if Old Town Road isn't country, ya know? It's holiday tangential at best. |
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Post by tanooki on Dec 10, 2019 12:23:26 GMT -5
Possible dumb question: are the currently charting Frozen II soundtrack songs considered holiday songs? According to Billboard, no. Otherwise, the Frozen II Soundtrack would be #1 on Holiday Albums |
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Post by renfield75 on Dec 10, 2019 12:43:41 GMT -5
I don't think holiday songs should be banned from the Hot 100, but perhaps as a compromise older songs get a 4-5 week reprieve from recurrency? So if a song at 23 weeks and number 25 gets pushed to number 54 by holiday songs it gets to stay on the chart until the first tracking week of January. Although that seems like it would be hard to manage so maybe not...
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Post by atg on Dec 10, 2019 12:48:57 GMT -5
So where's the thread to discuss the hot 100 again? Just wait till January right now its a vulnerable time |
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Post by atg on Dec 10, 2019 12:52:53 GMT -5
If baby shark made the year end, why not holiday songs as well?
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