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Post by tanooki on Jan 2, 2020 19:49:33 GMT -5
Who was an avid chart watcher in 1997? What kept “Candle in the Wind” selling so well for months? Its huge sales at first make sense, but what kept it going? Sales impacts from deaths now barely last a week or two. I was 16 and a chart watcher then. I can honestly say Princess Diana’s death was the highest profile death I’ve seen in my entire life. It’s like the world was in mourning. Not even Michael Jackson or Prince or Whitney even come CLOSE to the level of worldwide attention. Even after her death and funeral, there was a steady stream of news and shows discussing the circumstances and keeping her in the news. Also, the single’s proceeds went entirely to charity. And, it was an already classic song that a lot of people loved. It probably helped as well that the B-side got a healthy amount of airplay. And don’t forget, this was in an era as well when physical singles were already becoming increasingly rare, so it had less competition than a song might have today. My parents bought a copy of that CD and haven't even taken the plastic off. They're not avid collectors of music or anything and they knew what its value would be |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 19:55:07 GMT -5
I was 16 and a chart watcher then. I can honestly say Princess Diana’s death was the highest profile death I’ve seen in my entire life. It’s like the world was in mourning. Not even Michael Jackson or Prince or Whitney even come CLOSE to the level of worldwide attention. Even after her death and funeral, there was a steady stream of news and shows discussing the circumstances and keeping her in the news. Also, the single’s proceeds went entirely to charity. And, it was an already classic song that a lot of people loved. It probably helped as well that the B-side got a healthy amount of airplay. And don’t forget, this was in an era as well when physical singles were already becoming increasingly rare, so it had less competition than a song might have today. My parents bought a copy of that CD and haven't even taken the plastic off. They're not avid collectors of music or anything and they knew what its value would be I remember people spending thousands for the limited edition Princess Diana Beanie Baby on eBay too, because they were sure it was their path to an early retirement.. didn't quite work out that way. |
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Post by kierz7 on Jan 2, 2020 19:57:55 GMT -5
My parents bought a copy of that CD and haven't even taken the plastic off. They're not avid collectors of music or anything and they knew what its value would be I remember people spending thousands for the limited edition Princess Diana Beanie Baby on eBay too, because they were sure it was their path to an early retirement.. didn't quite work out that way. OMG. I remember those. 😂 |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 2, 2020 20:27:41 GMT -5
With artists using TikTok as promotion, I suddenly remember Rae Sremmurd using the mannequin challenge to propel Black Beatles to number one. They really were ahead of the curve in using memes.
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Post by tuna on Jan 2, 2020 20:53:15 GMT -5
With artists using TikTok as promotion, I suddenly remember Rae Sremmurd using the mannequin challenge to propel Black Beatles to number one. They really were ahead of the curve in using memes. no way. if anything they were late as Nasty Freestyle and Watch Me and Juju on that Beat came before |
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Post by somelikeitwhen on Jan 2, 2020 21:17:25 GMT -5
With artists using TikTok as promotion, I suddenly remember Rae Sremmurd using the mannequin challenge to propel Black Beatles to number one. They really were ahead of the curve in using memes. no way. if anything they were late as Nasty Freestyle and Watch Me and Juju on that Beat came before None of those hit #1 though so clearly they were doing something right. |
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Post by allow that on Jan 2, 2020 21:32:04 GMT -5
I mean, does it really matter? Are people gonna see AIWFCIY reenter next year and say "Look, there's that song that broke the record for biggest fall from #1, what a flop"? The price to pay from having a Christmas #1. The price? I think the only financial figure to care about here is the $60 million its made in royalties. |
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Post by mako on Jan 2, 2020 21:38:32 GMT -5
Question, is kworb down? I was under a rock for 5 months so i aint know nothin
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Post by iHype. on Jan 2, 2020 21:42:20 GMT -5
Seriously one of the most bizarre things related to Spotify/streaming 'payola'/'gaming' ever. I wonder if this song will rechart on Hot 100.
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Post by kierz7 on Jan 2, 2020 21:44:14 GMT -5
With artists using TikTok as promotion, I suddenly remember Rae Sremmurd using the mannequin challenge to propel Black Beatles to number one. They really were ahead of the curve in using memes. In 2015, Silento was LITERALLY asking multiple famous YouTubers to promote “Watch Me” on their channels. He was promising people personal meet-and-greets (on Twitter, IG) to those who uploaded their best “Watch Me” dance routines and of course many followed. Even in 2012, PSY was appearing in random “Gangnam Style” videos with the general public in South-Korea and in the U.K. 😂 Rae Sremmurd was just a product of their influence. |
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Post by Abbaschand on Jan 2, 2020 21:53:14 GMT -5
With artists using TikTok as promotion, I suddenly remember Rae Sremmurd using the mannequin challenge to propel Black Beatles to number one. They really were ahead of the curve in using memes. In 2015, Silento was LITERALLY asking multiple famous YouTubers to promote “Watch Me” on their channels. He was promising people personal meet-and-greets (on Twitter, IG) to those who uploaded their best “Watch Me” dance routines and of course many followed. Even in 2012, PSY was appearing in random “Gangnam Style” videos with the general public in South-Korea and in the U.K. 😂 Rae Sremmurd was just a product of their influence. Remember the Wild Thoughts "challenge"? |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Jan 2, 2020 22:08:59 GMT -5
French Montana’s “Writing On The Wall” is up 148,000 plays and 27 spots to a new peak of 21 on Spotify.
Wtf is happening
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 2, 2020 22:14:37 GMT -5
Seriously one of the most bizarre things related to Spotify/streaming 'payola'/'gaming' ever. I wonder if this song will rechart on Hot 100. :tweets: Aha! That last one mentions Chinese music. Seems to support my theory that it's not someone on his team (at least directly) and is more likely bots from Asia (though could be paid off by someone on his team). The very same ones likely responsible for the large first day sales of random Asian singers on iTunes. And I seem to recall a smaller k-pop group being hit with it on Spotify at one time too. |
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Post by iHype. on Jan 2, 2020 22:23:07 GMT -5
Seriously one of the most bizarre things related to Spotify/streaming 'payola'/'gaming' ever. I wonder if this song will rechart on Hot 100. :tweets: Aha! That last one mentions Chinese music. Seems to support my theory that it's not someone on his team (at least directly) and is more likely bots from Asia (though could be paid off by someone on his team). The very same ones likely responsible for the large first day sales of random Asian singers on iTunes. And I seem to recall a smaller k-pop group being hit with it on Spotify at one time too. It's not only showing up next to Chinese music on people who have been hacked to be fair. Also the Kris Wu stuff had to do with an artist specifically trying to cross over to America with a huge label backing overseas. Lots of fans on forums were just trying to use VPNs to download their music. This is just absolutely random songs being played. People have said they have random French, Russian, Spanish, etc music being played on their accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a site where you paid for Spotify click-farms (similar is done with fake YouTube views/subs, Twitter follows, etc) and these are somehow getting through notably without getting noticed yet. So there's lots of random artists of all varieties showing up who have people willing to shell out coins. |
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Post by golfradio on Jan 2, 2020 22:25:50 GMT -5
French retweeted this so he isn't even trying to be slick what the damn hell
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Post by tanooki on Jan 2, 2020 22:35:40 GMT -5
kayla's impact!
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Post by iHype. on Jan 2, 2020 22:39:03 GMT -5
French retweeted this so he isn't even trying to be slick what the damn hell He is a little slow, he probably didn't get what the tweet was actually suggesting lmao |
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Post by kindofbiased on Jan 2, 2020 22:40:37 GMT -5
I’m the Kayla he retweeted I’m so glad I’m playing a part in this whole thing it’s so funny
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Post by tanooki on Jan 2, 2020 22:44:35 GMT -5
I’m the Kayla he retweeted I’m so glad I’m playing a part in this whole thing it’s so funny I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THIS LMAO WELCOME TO PULSE |
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Jan 2, 2020 22:55:36 GMT -5
For notorious fanbots from China, don't forget the scandal Jane Zhang caused years ago...
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 2, 2020 23:01:51 GMT -5
Ok, so don't get spotify is what I'm learning here
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Post by kierz7 on Jan 2, 2020 23:04:18 GMT -5
Ok, so don't get spotify is what I'm learning here Lol |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 2, 2020 23:06:54 GMT -5
Charlotte predicts DaBaby and YNW Melly as breakout stars of 2019. NoCap breakout star of 2020 confirmed
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Post by Crimsonio on Jan 2, 2020 23:28:02 GMT -5
well i'm all for cardi getting another hit...
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Post by lurker2 on Jan 2, 2020 23:33:32 GMT -5
well i'm all for cardi getting another hit... I’m sure he’ll get one when/if Whole Lotta Red comes out. |
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Post by Crimsonio on Jan 2, 2020 23:36:27 GMT -5
well i'm all for cardi getting another hit... I’m sure he’ll get one when/if Whole Lotta Red comes out. I'm pretty sure Cardi B is not a man... |
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Post by Mayman on Jan 2, 2020 23:38:30 GMT -5
Charlotte predicts DaBaby and YNW Melly as breakout stars of 2019. NoCap breakout star of 2020 confirmed
This has nothing to do with the Hot 100 |
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Post by kimberly on Jan 2, 2020 23:40:25 GMT -5
well i'm all for cardi getting another hit... I’m sure he’ll get one when/if Whole Lotta Red comes out. this post exudes chaotic energy |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 2, 2020 23:42:54 GMT -5
Charlotte predicts DaBaby and YNW Melly as breakout stars of 2019. NoCap breakout star of 2020 confirmed
This has nothing to do with the Hot 100 When NoCap makes it onto the Hot 100, it will. |
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Post by Mayman on Jan 2, 2020 23:44:35 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with the Hot 100 When NoCap makes it onto the Hot 100, it will. Okay so you've confirmed that he is not relevant to this week's Hot 100. This could've gone in the general thread. |
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