January-December year ends (1959-2023)

[mikerivera]

Jul 31, 2021 19:13:36 GMT -5 Private Dancer said:

Jul 31, 2021 19:01:22 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

I’ve been thinking about that. And I’ve decided that I’m going to do the 1970s after finishing the 1991 list. That said, I think I’m going to take a break and get to it next year. I’m gonna have a busy schedule coming up after August, so using this as an off period would be nice. But rest assured, I will be getting to it. In fact, if I have some extra time, I might just begin working on them during my off period, and depending on how many I end up making, I could post the charts on weekly basis in 2022 instead of biweekly (we’ll have to see). And yes, I will post a 2021 chart in December as well.

What format are you using and how are you calculating the YE#? Also,Thanks for your hard work and enjoy your break. These lists are very nice to look at.

Inverse that I came up with for pre-92 (it’s meant to look similar to the all time formula, with bonuses for consecutive weeks at #1 and the top 10 not weighed disproportionately to the rest of the chart), and real points for the post-92 charts

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 31, 2021 19:16:23 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

Jul 31, 2021 19:13:36 GMT -5 Private Dancer said:

What format are you using and how are you calculating the YE#? Also,Thanks for your hard work and enjoy your break. These lists are very nice to look at.

Inverse that I came up with for pre-92 (it’s meant to look similar to the all time formula, with bonuses for consecutive weeks at #1 and the top 10 not weighed disproportionately to the rest of the chart), and real points for the post-92 charts

Just for fun, can you do a 2021 chart using an inverse system? I'm curious to see how that would look like.

[inverse]

Jul 31, 2021 19:01:22 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

I’ve been thinking about that. And I’ve decided that I’m going to do the 1970s after finishing the 1991 list. That said, I think I’m going to take a break and get to it next year. I’m gonna have a busy schedule coming up after August, so using this as an off period would be nice. But rest assured, I will be getting to it. In fact, if I have some extra time, I might just begin working on them during my off period, and depending on how many I end up making, I could post the charts on weekly basis in 2022 instead of biweekly (we’ll have to see). And yes, I will post a 2021 chart in December as well.

Are you going to do the 1991 list pretty soon though? The reason I ask is because I've been waiting awhile to do 1992 because there's like four songs from the original 1992 list that are all tossups for the new 1991 list and I'd just like to know if they make it or not before I post the 1992 but if you don't feel like doing it now then I'll just create the 1992 and then fix it later if need be

[mikerivera]

Jul 31, 2021 20:20:14 GMT -5 inverse said:

Jul 31, 2021 19:01:22 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

I’ve been thinking about that. And I’ve decided that I’m going to do the 1970s after finishing the 1991 list. That said, I think I’m going to take a break and get to it next year. I’m gonna have a busy schedule coming up after August, so using this as an off period would be nice. But rest assured, I will be getting to it. In fact, if I have some extra time, I might just begin working on them during my off period, and depending on how many I end up making, I could post the charts on weekly basis in 2022 instead of biweekly (we’ll have to see). And yes, I will post a 2021 chart in December as well.

Are you going to do the 1991 list pretty soon though? The reason I ask is because I've been waiting awhile to do 1992 because there's like four songs from the original 1992 list that are all tossups for the new 1991 list and I'd just like to know if they make it or not before I post the 1992 but if you don't feel like doing it now then I'll just create the 1992 and then fix it later if need be

You can post it whenever. At my current rate, 91 will be coming out sometime around the second week of September (although I might look to speed it up if need be)

[mikerivera]

Jul 31, 2021 19:51:16 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 31, 2021 19:16:23 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

Inverse that I came up with for pre-92 (it’s meant to look similar to the all time formula, with bonuses for consecutive weeks at #1 and the top 10 not weighed disproportionately to the rest of the chart), and real points for the post-92 charts

Just for fun, can you do a 2021 chart using an inverse system? I'm curious to see how that would look like.

Maybe. I’ll see when I get there. If I did, it would probably just be a rank-song-artist chart. 

[urtarreviews]

I have completed September 2014 on Crownnote. I just have three months left to finish and then I'll have the Crownnote Jan-Dec YE for 2014. Just giving you guys an update.

Btw, Eric Church has a shot at a YE hit on this list, depending on the cutoff. Not a large shot, but a shot nonetheless. Also Demi Lovato could get Neon Lights onto the list depending on the cutoff and it's more likely than Eric Church.

[urtarreviews]

Oh I should've mentioned. The Eric Church song that has a shot at making it is Give Me Back My Hometown.

[urtarreviews]

Oh also I probably won't get much of it done today as I have a very long drive today, 6 or 7 hours. I may be able to do some of it once we arrive but that'll be pretty late in the day.

I'd expect it to be done in the next few days. I'll also change the dates once I've finished November 2014 to generate what the Crownnote list looks like with the Billboard chart year and then change them back.

[urtarreviews]

Jul 31, 2021 19:51:16 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 31, 2021 19:16:23 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

Inverse that I came up with for pre-92 (it’s meant to look similar to the all time formula, with bonuses for consecutive weeks at #1 and the top 10 not weighed disproportionately to the rest of the chart), and real points for the post-92 charts

Just for fun, can you do a 2021 chart using an inverse system? I'm curious to see how that would look like.

I believe my friend Alex has posted all of 2021 so far on Crownnote, which uses an inverse system. I would link it but I can't remember the name of the account he posted it on. Oh well, when I find it I will link it for you.

[urtarreviews]

Aug 1, 2021 17:59:14 GMT -5 urtarreviews said:

Jul 31, 2021 19:51:16 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Just for fun, can you do a 2021 chart using an inverse system? I'm curious to see how that would look like.

I believe my friend Alex has posted all of 2021 so far on Crownnote, which uses an inverse system. I would link it but I can't remember the name of the account he posted it on. Oh well, when I find it I will link it for you.

Found his account. crownnote.com/users/alexs-universe-2
Just click on his 2021 leaderboard and you'll see the YE so far. I believe he has also done all of 2020 too so you could look at that.

[urtarreviews]

Just looked at his 2020 list for the first time and CARDIGAN MADE IT! WE CAN REJOICE!

[urtarreviews]

Finished all of November 2014 on Crownnote so you know what that means, my list of what the Crownnote system looks like in the Billboard chart year. Link to the list: docs.google.com/document/d/1tCdNqFWMSgTg3QWdwtq_p8LlPQxVPFHBDMO5QXy2hSg/edit?usp=drivesdk

Now I just need to change some dates back and finish December 2014 and then I will have the Jan-Dec Crownnote list.

[urtarreviews]

The 2014 Jan-Dec Crownnote YE is finished! Link to it: crownnote.com/leaderboard/Urtar%20Reviews%202.0/2014

[inverse]

1961 year end chart, with a surprise at #96

1	Bobby Lewis	Tossin' And Turnin'	707780	1 (x7)	23	12
2	Del Shannon	Runaway	495297	1 (x4)	17	9
3	Jimmy Dean	Big Bad John	493830	1 (x5)	13	10
4	Dion	Runaround Sue	492689	1 (x2)	14	9
5	Chubby Checker	Pony Time	475258	1 (x3)	16	8
6	Lawrence Welk	Calcutta	459304	1 (x2)	14	9
7	The Highwaymen	Michael	443146	1 (x2)	17	9
8	Ricky Nelson	Travelin' Man	437130	1 (x2)	16	8
9	The Dovells	Bristol Stomp	412464	2	16	9
10	Ernie K-Doe	Mother-In-Law	412371	1	14	8
11	The Marcels	Blue Moon	406676	1 (x3)	14	8
12	Bobby Vee	Take Good Care Of My Baby	404052	1 (x3)	15	7
13	The Shirelles	Will You Love Me Tomorrow	402050	1 (x2)	13	8
14	Gary U.S. Bonds	Quarter To Three	400511	1 (x2)	15	8
15	Brook Benton	The Boll Weevil Song	388422	2	16	8
16	Ferrante & Teicher	Exodus	387529	2	14	8
17	Elvis Presley	Surrender	386422	1 (x2)	12	8
18	Ray Charles	Hit The Road Jack	377644	1 (x2)	13	8
19	The Shirelles	Dedicated To The One I Love	373170	3	16	9
20	Dee Clark	Raindrops	368352	2	16	8
21	Joe Dowell	Wooden Heart	363361	1	16	7
22	Chris Kenner	I Like It Like That	363342	2	17	7
23	Roy Orbison	Crying	359976	2	16	5
24	The Marvelettes	Please Mr. Postman	355868	1	17	7
25	Jørgen Ingmann	Apache	350770	2	17	5
26	Roy Orbison	Running Scared	349307	1	17	4
27	Pat Boone	Moody River	343047	1	15	6
28	Bert Kaempfert	Wonderland By Night	340770	1 (x3)	10	7
29	Marty Robbins	Don't Worry	339427	3	15	7
30	Gene McDaniels	A Hundred Pounds Of Clay	335802	3	15	8
31	The Miracles	Shop Around	317348	2	13	6
32	The String-A-Longs	Wheels	312927	3	16	6
33	The Jive Five	My True Story	305061	3	19	4
34	The Mar-Keys	Last Night	302846	3	14	5
35	Shep & The Limelites	Daddy's Home	295107	2	14	4
36	Connie Francis	Where The Boys Are	292922	4	15	5
37	Brenda Lee	Fool #1	289530	3	13	5
38	Chubby Checker	Let's Twist Again	278672	8	18	5
39	Floyd Cramer	On The Rebound	278198	4	13	6
40	Clarence Henry	(I Don't Know Why) But I Do	275375	4	16	5
41	James Darren	Goodbye Cruel World	271805	3	11	6
42	Dick & DeeDee	The Mountain's High	269461	2	15	3
43	Linda Scott	I've Told Every Little Star	268740	3	14	5
44	Brenda Lee	Dum Dum	264265	4	12	6
45	Neil Sedaka	Calendar Girl	262212	4	13	5
46	Ben E. King	Stand By Me	261952	4	14	4
47	Troy Shondell	This Time	259960	6	13	6
48	Elvis Presley	Are You Lonesome Tonight?	256194	1	9	5
49	Del Shannon	Hats Off To Larry	252505	5	13	5
50	The Paris Sisters	I Love How You Love Me	248870	5	15	3
51	Adam Wade	Take Good Care Of Her	245630	7	14	4
52	Gladys Knight & The Pips	Every Beat Of My Heart	243862	6	13	6
53	The Capris	There's A Moon Out Tonight	243344	3	14	4
54	Sue Thompson	Sad Movies (Make Me Cry)	242772	5	14	5
55	Ral Donner	You Don't Know What You've Got (Until You Lose It)	242675	4	12	4
56	Chubby Checker	The Fly	241890	7	13	5
57	Arthur Lyman	Yellow Bird	239530	4	12	5
58	Gene McDaniels	Tower Of Strength	238610	5	13	5
59	Rosie & The Originals	Angel Baby	238368	5	10	7
60	Ricky Nelson	Hello Mary Lou	237197	9	15	1
61	Elvis Presley	Little Sister	231981	5	13	4
62	Bob Moore	Mexico	230915	5	15	3
63	Patsy Cline	I Fall To Pieces	229114	12	20
64	Hayley Mills	Let's Get Together	226928	8	14	3
65	Adam Wade	The Writing On The Wall	226265	5	11	5
66	Steve Lawrence	Portrait Of My Love	225009	9	16	1
67	Buzz Clifford	Baby Sittin' Boogie	222470	6	14	3
68	The Shirelles	Mama Said	222415	4	11	4
69	Brenda Lee	You Can Depend On Me	218905	6	12	4
70	The Everly Brothers	Walk Right Back	218358	7	13	4
71	Ben E. King	Spanish Harlem	215355	10	16	1
72	Timi Yuro	Hurt	210872	4	12	3
73	Lee Dorsey	Ya Ya	209948	7	13	3
74	Brenda Lee	Emotions	207646	7	12	4
75	The G-Clefs	I Understand (Just How You Feel)	207607	9	15	1
76	Ray Charles	One Mint Julep	207311	8	13	3
77	Ferlin Husky	Wings Of A Dove	206962	12	13
78	Connie Francis	Together	206385	6	11	4
79	Lonnie Donegan	Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor (On The Bedpost Overnight)	205320	5	11	4
80	Kokomo	Asia Minor	205135	8	14	1
81	The Everly Brothers	Ebony Eyes	202549	8	12	4
82	Linda Scott	Don't Bet Money Honey	201318	9	14	2
83	Gary U.S. Bonds	School Is Out	200904	5	11	4
84	Little Caesar & The Romans	Those Oldies But Goodies	198643	9	13	3
85	Bobby Darin	You Must Have Been A Beautiful Baby	198551	5	11	3
86	Bobby Edwards	You're The Reason	196363	11	17
87	Faron Young	Hello Walls	195036	12	15
88	Carla Thomas	Gee Whiz (Look At His Eyes)	192768	10	14	1
89	Curtis Lee	Pretty Little Angel Eyes	191488	7	11	4
90	Barry Mann	Who Put The Bomp (In Bomp, Bomp, Bomp)	189791	7	12	2
91	Johnny Tillotson	Without You	189250	7	13	2
92	Bobby Vee	Rubber Ball	188666	6	9	5
93	Connie Francis	Breakin' In A Brand New Broken Heart	185994	7	10	3
94	Floyd Cramer	San Antonio Rose	185573	8	12	1
95	The Tokens	The Lion Sleeps Tonight	182604	1 (x2)	7	3
96	Chubby Checker	The Twist	180902	3	7	4
97	Leroy Van Dyke	Walk On By	177692	5	9	4
98	Bobby Vee	Run To Him	176135	2	7	3
99	Brook Benton	Think Twice	175506	11	12
100	The Lettermen	The Way You Look Tonight	173216	13	13

[inverse]

Songs from the (broken) original list that missed this one

#65 - It's Gonna Work Out Fine

#66 - Baby Blue

#71 - Marie's The Name (His Latest Flame)

#73 - Bless You

#75 - One Track Mind

#82 - Let The Four Winds Blow

#84 - My Kind Of Girl

#85 - Tonight My Love, Tonight

#88 - Good Time Baby

#90 - Missing You

#92 - I'm Gonna Knock On Your Door

#95 - Take Five

#97 - Sea Of Heartbreak

#98 - More Money For You And Me

#100 - Please Stay

Next closest 10. "Last Date" made 1960

101	Floyd Cramer	Last Date	172935
102	Jerry Butler	Moon River	171656
103	Bobby Rydell	Good Time Baby	171277
104	Ferrante & Teicher	Tonight	171019
105	The Echoes	Baby Blue	170810
106	Ray Peterson	Corinna, Corinna	169449
107	Matt Monro	My Kind Of Girl	167261
108	Elvis Presley	I Feel So Bad	166697
109	Elvis Presley	Marie's The Name (His Latest Flame)	165448
110	The Marcels	Heartaches	162782

[mikerivera]

I think I’m starting to understand how The Twist became the #1 song of all time according to Billboard. I mean, it’s not the biggest song ever, and the idea of creating an all time chart that is limited to a song’s chart run is beyond flawed (songs like Don’t Stop Believin, Bohemian Rhapsody, Thriller, Hotel California and Respect are some of the most iconic songs in the history of American music, yet none are on the all time chart), but by that standard, yeah, I’m guessing The Twist will now be on 3 different J-D lists, which is almost unimaginable for any song

[gikem]

13 more songs added to the playlist for 1961, including Please Mr. Postman, which I'm surprised never made an official Billboard YE while the Carpenters' version (which also went to #1) did so over a decade later.

[phieaglesfan712]

Please Mr. Postman aged pretty well. It inspired Feel It Still, which in turn, inspired Sucker.

[inverse]

Aug 5, 2021 22:03:55 GMT -5 mikerivera said:

I think I’m starting to understand how The Twist became the #1 song of all time according to Billboard. I mean, it’s not the biggest song ever, and the idea of creating an all time chart that is limited to a song’s chart run is beyond flawed (songs like Don’t Stop Believin, Bohemian Rhapsody, Thriller, Hotel California and Respect are some of the most iconic songs in the history of American music, yet none are on the all time chart), but by that standard, yeah, I’m guessing The Twist will now be on 3 different J-D lists, which is almost unimaginable for any song

Yeah the power of The Twist is truly brought to light with the January-December format because it made 3 year end lists, probably in the top 10 twice, and now that all its points are accounted for on year end lists you can see that if you stack them together then they just hit an outrageously high number compared to every other song throughout these 60's year end lists. It's already at 639023 points and there's still an entire 18 week chart run with a week at #1 that hasn't been accounted for. It *might* even hit 1.1 million which is more than double a lot of the #1 songs of the year in the middle of the decade. Really its chart run was a level of distanced from the competition that is only comparable to Blinding Lights.

All I Want For Christmas Is You will probably make the 2021 though and tie the record of 3 year end lists and then probably surpass it soon after.

[mikerivera]

The 1989 list. I started these in early May right as school was ending, and now I’ve finished the entire 1980s in August shortly before school is gonna start back up. I'll be publishing two decade end lists in different threads, so stay tuned for that (the second one, which I'm still working on, is one that I'm particularly proud of). But enough stalling, here is the final year of the decade that is so beloved that the biggest songs of last year and this year are both throwbacks to this era

Rank	Song	Artist	Peak	Top 10	Hot 100	Points
1	Miss You Much	Janet Jackson	#1 (4 weeks)	8	18	411,070
2	Straight Up	Paula Abdul	#1 (3 weeks)	7	20	381,370
3	Right Here Waiting	Richard Marx	#1 (3 weeks)	7	21	378,620
4	Lost in Your Eyes	Debbie Gibson	#1 (3 weeks)	7	19	368,950
5	Cold Hearted	Paula Abdul	#1	8	21	367,800
6	Wind Beneath My Wings	Bette Midler	#1	7	29	358,910
7	Like a Prayer	Madonna	#1 (3 weeks)	7	16	355,800
8	Girl I'm Gonna Miss You	Milli Vanilli	#1 (2 weeks)	6	22	350,920
9	Girl You Know It's True	Milli Vanilli	#2	7	26	343,120
10	I'll Be There For You	Bon Jovi	#1	6	22	333,190
11	She Drives Me Crazy	Fine Young Cannibals	#1	7	23	332,930
12	The Look	Roxette	#1	7	19	332,590
13	Forever Your Girl	Paula Abdul	#1 (2 weeks)	6	22	332,570
14	Don't Wanna Lose You	Gloria Estefan	#1	8	18	330,390
15	I'll Be Loving You (Forever)	New Kids on the Block	#1	6	21	330,030
16	Toy Soldiers	Martika	#1 (2 weeks)	6	20	329,090
17	Heaven	Warrant	#2	7	19	324,420
18	If You Don't Know Me By Now	Simply Red	#1	6	22	324,020
19	Baby Don't Forget My Number	Milli Vanilli	#1	6	21	323,930
20	On Our Own	Bobby Brown	#2	6	20	323,780
21	Blame it on the Rain	Milli Vanilli	#1 (2 weeks)	6	13	323,550
22	The Living Years	Mike+The Mechanics	#1	6	20	323,140
23	Listen to Your Heart	Roxette	#1	6	19	321,280
24	We Didn't Start the Fire	Billy Joel	#1 (2 weeks)	7	12	317,150
25	When I See You Smile	Bad English	#1 (2 weeks)	6	16	316,410
26	Eternal Flame	The Bangles	#1	6	19	313,930
27	Good Thing	Fine Young Cannibals	#1	6	17	299,770
28	Bust a Move	Young MC	#7	4	23	298,980
29	Batdance	Prince	#1	6	18	296,770
30	Buffalo Stance	Neneh Cherry	#3	6	24	293,800
31	If I Could Turn Back Time	Cher	#3	5	23	293,630
32	Rock On	Michael Damien	#1	5	21	292,910
33	Real Love	Jody Watley	#2	6	18	287,540
34	Hangin' Tough	New Kids on the Block	#1	6	17	286,950
35	Once Bitten, Twice Shy	Great White	#5	5	26	282,160
36	Love Shack	The B-52s	#3	6	18	280,670
37	Wild Thing	Tone Loc	#2	6	20	280,650
38	Every Little Step	Bobby Brown	#3	6	21	277,900
39	(It's Just) The Way That You Love Me	Paula Abdul	#4	6	15	276,600
40	When I'm With You	Sheriff	#1	5	15	275,330
41	Satisfied	Richard Marx	#1	5	15	273,400
42	So Alive	Love and Rockets	#3	6	20	270,290
43	Express Yourself	Madonna	#2	5	16	266,600
44	I Like It	Dino	#7	4	25	263,540
45	My Heart Can't Tell You No	Rod Stewart	#4	5	21	262,350
46	Soldier of Love	Donny Osmond	#2	6	18	260,990
47	Another Day in Paradise	Phil Collins	#1 (2 weeks)	6	9	260,710
48	Don't Know Much	Linda Ronstadt & Aaron Neville	#2	6	14	259,540
49	Cherish	Madonna	#2	5	15	257,080
50	Back to Life (However Do You Want Me)	Soul II Soul	#4	7	15	255,750
51	The Lover in Me	Sheena Easton	#2	5	16	255,430
52	Sowing the Seeds of Love	Tears For Fears	#2	5	15	250,220
53	You Got It (The Right Stuff)	New Kids on the Block	#3	5	19	248,320
54	18 and Life	Skid Row	#4	5	20	247,380
55	Born to Be My Baby	Bon Jovi	#3	5	14	246,800
56	Second Chance	.38 Special	#6	4	21	242,650
57	Funky Cold Medina	Tone Loc	#3	5	18	238,130
58	Lovesong	The Cure	#2	4	17	232,960
59	Miss You Like Crazy	Natalie Cole	#7	4	19	232,280
60	Secret Rendezvous	Karyn White	#6	3	21	230,010
61	Angel Eyes	The Jeff Healey Band	#5	4	22	229,890
62	Two Hearts	Phil Collins	#1 (2 weeks)	5	11	226,750
63	Cover Girl	New Kids on the Block	#2	4	16	225,490
64	Patience	Guns N' Roses	#4	5	18	223,500
65	Angelia	Richard Marx	#4	4	13	219,720
66	Shower Me With Your Love	Surface	#5	4	19	218,500
67	Stand	R.E.M.	#6	4	19	214,060
68	Roni	Bobby Brown	#3	4	17	212,140
69	After All	Cher & Peter Cetera	#6	4	20	211,950
70	Lay Your Hands on Me	Bon Jovi	#7	4	16	205,770
71	Love in an Elevator	Aerosmith	#5	3	16	205,040
72	When the Children Cry	White Lion	#3	4	14	200,660
73	Close My Eyes Forever	Lita Ford & Ozzy Osbourne	#8	4	25	199,580
74	Paradise City	Guns N' Roses	#5	3	17	199,050
75	Dreamin'	Vanessa Williams	#8	2	20	197,700
76	It's No Crime	Babyface	#7	4	18	195,980
77	Thinking of You	Sa-Fire	#12		24	194,610
78	Rock Wit'cha	Bobby Brown	#7	3	19	193,570
79	This Time I Know it's For Real	Donna Summer	#7	3	17	193,140
80	Don't Rush Me	Taylor Dayne	#2	5	11	191,440
81	With Every Beat of My Heart	Taylor Dayne	#5	4	11	190,060
82	The End of Innocence	Don Henley	#8	2	14	189,610
83	Heaven Help Me	Deon Estus & George Michael	#5	2	16	188,900
84	What You Don't Know	Exposé	#8	3	15	188,830
85	Surrender to Me	Ann Wilson & Robin Zander	#6	2	17	186,600
86	What I Am	Eddie Brickell & The New Bohemians	#7	3	13	186,480
87	Armageddon It	Def Leppard	#3	5	11	186,090
88	Keep On Movin'	Soul II Soul	#11		20	185,740
89	My Prerogative*	Bobby Brown	#1	3	13	184,590
90	She Wants to Dance With Me	Rick Astley	#6	3	15	184,340
91	Poison	Alice Cooper	#7	3	15	181,360
92	I Drove All Night	Cyndi Lauper	#6	2	15	180,110
93	When I Looked At Him	Exposé	#10	1	20	179,240
94	Friends	Jody Watley ft. Eric B & Rakim	#9	2	18	179,070
95	Don't Close Your Eyes	Kix	#11		17	178,930
96	Where Are You Now	Synch	#10	1	24	175,010
97	You Got It	Roy Orbison	#9	1	18	173,700
98	Dr. Feelgood	Motley Crue	#6	2	16	173,100
99	Walk the Dinosaur	Was (Not Was)	#7	3	16	171,580
100	Cry	Waterfront	#10	2	17	170,980

[mikerivera]

Songs that missed

Made 1988:
-Baby, I Love You/Freebird
-Giving You the Best That I Got
-Every Rose Has its Thorn
-How Can I Fall
-I Don't Want Your Love
-Look Away
-Waiting For a Star to Fall
-Walk on Water
-Welcome to the Jungle

Caught Between Years
-All This Time
-I Remember Holding You
-I Wanna Have Some Fun
-In Your Room
-Smooth Criminal
-The Promise
-The Way You Love Me

[phieaglesfan712]

Songs 79-82 were the best stretch of the list. I’m glad that Don’t Rush Me made the list, and didn’t get caught between years.

[mikerivera]

The next closest 10

Rank	Song	Artist	Points
101	Living in Sin	Bon Jovi	169,430
102	Room to Move	Animotion	167,650
103	The Way You Love Me	Karyn White	167,120
104	Crazy About Her	Rod Stewart	166,880
105	Everlasting Love	Howard Jones	163,940
106	Every Rose Has its Thorn*	Poison	163,780
107	Didn’t I (Blow Your Mind)	New Kids on the Block	162,990
108	I Wanna Have Some Fun	Samantha Fox	162,350
109	Superwoman	Karyn White	161,900
110	Pump Up the Jam	Technotronic ft. Felly	160,410

[gikem]

If you want to know just how bad this stretch of time was for pop music, just look at Milli Vanilli very nearly getting all 4 of their singles in the top 20 of this new YE (and would likely achieve that if BIOTR's 1990 weeks had been counted).

Also, 10 more songs have been added to the playlist to represent 1989.

[inverse]

WALK THE DINOSAURRRR

Between that and the massive glow up at #1 I feel a bit less bad about Smooth Criminal missing.

Also what is going on with Bust a move how does a #7 peak get above #3’s with longer runs and more weeks top 10

[mikerivera]

I knew someone would ask about that. Bust a Move’s posted stats really don’t do justice to the chart run it had, which was very ahead of its time. It may not have peaked high, but it stuck around in the top 40 for longer than any song I can think of at the time. It entered the top 40 in August of 89, and didn’t leave until January of the following year. It’s entire run lasted 39 weeks, with 20 in the top 40. It was an outlier at the time, but a sign of things to come as we entered the 90s.

[korbel16]

Not milli van*lli that huge 💀💀

[inverse]

Also question for the like four or five of you guys who actually look at this thread, when I make the decade end list should I just use the raw points or do a multiplier to balance everything out? The start of the decade was unquestionably stronger with much longer runs but it's not so unbalanced that each year wouldn't get at least a couple songs in the top 100. For the multiplier I was thinking

1960-62 x.9
1968-69 X.95

which seems like it would be pretty good for balance

[phieaglesfan712]

I like the .9x multiplier for 1960-62, but keep 1963-1969 raw points.

[mikerivera]

Aug 11, 2021 20:13:05 GMT -5 inverse said:

Also question for the like four or five of you guys who actually look at this thread, when I make the decade end list should I just use the raw points or do a multiplier to balance everything out? The start of the decade was unquestionably stronger with much longer runs but it's not so unbalanced that each year wouldn't get at least a couple songs in the top 100. For the multiplier I was thinking

1960-62 x.9
1968-69 X.95

which seems like it would be pretty good for balance

Idk if you just saw the thread I made for the 80s decade end, but I would say use a multiplier. I don’t think the 60s are quite as uneven as the 80s, but still, you want it to be as reflective of the decade as a whole, not just one part of the decade. Otherwise, there’s no point in combining it. 

Also, this is just my opinion, but an ascending multiplier is usually better for balancing things out than a flat multiplier. The latter means there’s no extra distance between songs, which is what leads to lopsided results like the 90s decade chart having 40 songs from 90 and 91.