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Post by inverse on Apr 9, 2020 23:58:26 GMT -5
How’s it going with 2011 and 2010 Year End? Haven’t begun working on 2010. 2011 is wildly uneven. The first month was astoundingly strong (particularly in the top 20), while the last few months were equally weak for the bottom of the chart. Holding the points per position constant throughout the year produces an inaccurate chart no matter what those points are. That's basically the issue with 2009. The beginning is obviously stronger than the end, but it seems like the very end, maybe the last 8 weeks, were all also abnormally strong from 10-20 as Forever was able to make the year end list. And even then there's some total discrepancies, like Paparazzi is right at the end and it's beating a couple songs that were strong near the start of the year like Beautiful and Viva La Vida, even though I have those with more points than Paparazzi
Also with 2011 I think there was a formula change at some point. The way I dealt with the infamous 2007 chart year with its formula change is I multiplied the points of every week after Aug 11 2007 by .75. It worked shockingly well, putting Paralyzer in its seemingly impossible #98 position and matching up very well with the results of the actual year end list
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Post by mikerivera on Apr 10, 2020 0:11:11 GMT -5
Haven’t begun working on 2010. 2011 is wildly uneven. The first month was astoundingly strong (particularly in the top 20), while the last few months were equally weak for the bottom of the chart. Holding the points per position constant throughout the year produces an inaccurate chart no matter what those points are. That's basically the issue with 2009. The beginning is obviously stronger than the end, but it seems like the very end, maybe the last 8 weeks, were all also abnormally strong from 10-20 as Forever was able to make the year end list. And even then there's some total discrepancies, like Paparazzi is right at the end and it's beating a couple songs that were strong near the start of the year like Beautiful and Viva La Vida, even though I have those with more points than Paparazzi
Also with 2011 I think there was a formula change at some point. The way I dealt with the infamous 2007 chart year with its formula change is I multiplied the points of every week after Aug 11 2007 by .75. It worked shockingly well, putting Paralyzer in its seemingly impossible #98 position and matching up very well with the results of the actual year end list
That shouldn’t be the case. I think 2007 was the last formula change until streaming was added in 2012. To quote the billboard top 10 article from the week that streaming debuted: “Additionally, the Hot 100's sales/airplay ratio has been adjusted to both accommodate the influx of additional streaming services to the chart's data pool and to slightly lessen the influence of sales, as the volume of digital downloads had increased exponentially since the chart's last formula modification in 2007.” Also, if you’re having trouble finding the exact numbers, see if Billboard still has the top 10 articles from 2009. Unless they’ve been deleted, they should be on the writer’s homepage. www.billboard.com/author/gary-trust/253 Hopefully this helps. It’s the back page which has his earliest articles, you’d have to go forward a decent amount to get to 2009, but hopefully Billboard hasn’t deleted the articles. |
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Post by mikerivera on Apr 10, 2020 0:26:52 GMT -5
As for the total points, I would but I think Rockgolf already made a thread for that, and I don’t want to steal his idea. He didn't - at least not with raw point totals (I think his uses the inverse method). It just gives you an appreciation for those "hidden" big hits - for example, I had no idea how big "Fergalicious" or "Eastside" really were without adding up their point totals Fergalicious - ~652,000 which is enough for #7 for 2007 - pretty surprising - more than "Glamorous" and "Girlfriend" which made top 10 - we wouldn't know that unless there's a column for total points though Just a thought  Appreciate the feedback. If I were to do this, it would be in a new thread. I wouldn’t want to start that until after I’ve finished with this one. Not to mention, raw points probably doesn’t do justice to years like 2013 and 2012, which both saw midyear formula changes that created a massive influx of points (2013 was particularly brutal for songs that had been carrying over from last year—songs like Locked Out of Heaven, Diamonds and especially Gangnam Style would probably have been much higher if their YouTube views had counted towards their point totals). Creating a fair and equitable system for songs in these situation while not misrepresenting real points would be a challenge. |
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Post by xtynaaguilera99 on Apr 11, 2020 15:37:21 GMT -5
How’s it going with 2011 and 2010 Year End? Haven’t begun working on 2010. 2011 is wildly uneven. The first month was astoundingly strong (particularly in the top 20), while the last few months were equally weak for the bottom of the chart. Holding the points per position constant throughout the year produces an inaccurate chart no matter what those points are. ok, thanks! When will you orientatively publish them? |
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Post by mikerivera on Apr 11, 2020 16:20:09 GMT -5
I try to pump them out every two weeks. It gives me enough time to do the list while also having a regular schedule. So 2011 should be out by next Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 7:38:46 GMT -5
Maroon 5's fantastic "Harder To Breathe" making to #83 on the 2003 Year-End while "She Hates Me" gets caught between years is such a beautiful sight. 😊
Also, given that you already shared the lists for both 2007 and 2008, was Paramore's "Misery Business" close to making any list?
Congratulations for both of you - you're doing a great job and these lists are so interesting.
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Post by inverse on Apr 12, 2020 22:45:37 GMT -5
Here's 2001, featuring Michelle Branch and who cares who else? It's possible It Wasn't Me made 2000 but I don't think so, I have it barely above Shackles and I think the 2000 cutoff is gonna be higher than the original list.
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| Hanging By A Moment
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| 21
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| Jennifer Lopez
| I'm Real
| 884831
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| Alicia Keys
| Fallin'
| 865460
| 1
| 29
| 19
| 4
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| Train
| Drops Of Jupiter
| 828563
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| 42
| 14
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| Janet Jackson
| All For You
| 770060
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| Eve f/ Gwen Stefani
| Let Me Blow Ya Mind
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| Blu Cantrell
| Hit 'Em Up Style (Oops!)
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| Staind
| It's Been Awhile
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| Dido
| Thank You
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| Joe f/ Mystikal
| Stutter
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| Where The Party At
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| Mary J. Blige
| Family Affair
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| U Remind Me
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| If You're Gone
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| Angel
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| Follow Me
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| Peaches & Cream
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| Incubus
| Drive
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| Shaggy f/ RikRok
| It Wasn't Me
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| City High
| What Would You Do?
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| Destiny's Child
| Survivor
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| Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, Mya, P!nk
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| Crazy Town
| Butterfly
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| Jennifer Lopez
| Love Don't Cost A Thing
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| Ja Rule f/ Lil' Mo, Vita
| Put It On Me
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| 10
| Destiny's Child
| Independent Women Part I
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| 13
| 8
| 29
| 50
| Ginuwine
| Differences
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| 30
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| Craig David
| Fill Me In
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| Lee Ann Womack
| I Hope You Dance
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| Missy Elliott
| Get Ur Freak On
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| 7
| 33
| 38
| Janet Jackson
| Someone To Call My Lover
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| 6
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| Ms. Jackson
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| 9
| 35
| 33
| Moby f/ Gwen Stefani
| South Side
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| O-Town
| All Or Nothing
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| 20
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| Madonna
| Don't Tell Me
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| 17
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| Usher
| U Got It Bad
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| 39
| 59
| Enya
| Only Time
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| 10
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| 3
| 40
| 42
| Destiny's Child
| Bootylicious
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| 41
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| Nelly Furtado
| I'm Like A Bird
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| 42
| 36
| K-Ci & JoJo
| Crazy
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| 70
| Nelly Furtado
| Turn Off The Light
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| 44
| 27
| Faith Hill
| The Way You Love Me
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| 45
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| Toya
| I Do!!
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| R. Kelly f/ Jay-Z
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| Dream
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| 49
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| Enrique Iglesias
| Hero
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| Ja Rule f/ Case
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| It's Over Now
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Post by inverse on Apr 12, 2020 22:48:06 GMT -5
Songs that made the official list and missed here This I Promise You - made 2000 I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me) - caught Beautiful Day - caught I Wish - made 2000 (probably) Dance With Me - made 2000 So Fresh, So Clean - #104 E.I. - caught Most Girls - made 2000 Oochie Wally - #105 Hemorrhage (In My Hands) - caught
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Post by inverse on Apr 12, 2020 23:04:03 GMT -5
Maroon 5's fantastic "Harder To Breathe" making to #83 on the 2003 Year-End while "She Hates Me" gets caught between years is such a beautiful sight. 😊 Also, given that you already shared the lists for both 2007 and 2008, was Paramore's "Misery Business" close to making any list? Congratulations for both of you - you're doing a great job and these lists are so interesting. Misery Business sadly wasn't close to either Jan-Dec list. Despite 22 weeks in 2007 only six of them were in the top 40 and the end of that year got dropped hard thanks to a formula change. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 11:02:06 GMT -5
Songs that made the official list and missed here Beautiful Day - caught So, it looks like one of my favorite songs of all time would've been caught between years in a January-December format. |
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Post by inverse on Apr 13, 2020 12:06:25 GMT -5
Songs that made the official list and missed here Beautiful Day - caught So, it looks like one of my favorite songs of all time would've been caught between years in a January-December format. Yes buuuuut we now have another Michelle Branch song so it's totally worth it sometimes sacrifices must be made |
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Post by inverse on Apr 13, 2020 12:49:49 GMT -5
On the topic of Michelle Branch I made some edits to the 2006 list. It was the first one I ever did and I didn't quite know what I was doing yet so I adjusted some songs at the start of the year, most of which I'd previously just subtracted an arbitrary number of points for. One Wish by Ray J falls to #102 after being #102 the year before. My girl Michelle has song #100 truly the best timeline. But you can maybe take that with a grain of salt it could have also been One Wish (179266), Summertime by Kenny Chesney (178450), or Miss Murder by AFI (179289) it's hard to know for sure with songs below 100
EDIT: I also realized I made a mistake wish Fresh Azimiz. It lost two weeks and falls off the list.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 12:57:12 GMT -5
So, it looks like one of my favorite songs of all time would've been caught between years in a January-December format. Yes buuuuut we now have another Michelle Branch song so it's totally worth it sometimes sacrifices must be made Sorry, but I gotta disagree. Not only did Beautiful Day miss, but It's Been Awhile (my least favorite hit of the year) made the Year-End Top 10, so while it's a shame that Michelle Branch missed, I still prefer our timeline's 2001 Year-End List. |
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Post by Myth X on Apr 13, 2020 13:46:59 GMT -5
After seeing the 2003 list is safe to say that Beyoncé would have been the Top Female Artist of 2003 over Christina Aguilera and the #2 Artist overall after 50 Cent.
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Post by 94sidekick on Apr 13, 2020 13:55:26 GMT -5
Songs that made the official list and missed here This I Promise You - made 2000 I Just Wanna Love U (Give It 2 Me) - caught Beautiful Day - caught I Wish - made 2000 (probably) Dance With Me - made 2000 So Fresh, So Clean - #104 E.I. - caught Most Girls - made 2000 Oochie Wally - #105 I'm guessing Hemorrhage (In My Hands) by Fuel also got caught between years. |
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Post by brady47 on Apr 13, 2020 15:33:00 GMT -5
Here's 2001, featuring Michelle Branch and who cares who else? It's possible It Wasn't Me made 2000 but I don't think so, I have it barely above Shackles and I think the 2000 cutoff is gonna be higher than the original list. Omg thank you for this! I'm shocked at Nelly Furtado's "I'm Like a Bird" outranking "Turn Off the Light" considering I'm Like a Bird peaked at #9 and Turn Off the Light peaked at #5 :O Great list! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 16:22:05 GMT -5
Hm...I don't know how to feel about the 2001 list. All the songs I love are still in, and while it would be a real shame to lose "So Fresh, So Clean" and "Beautiful Day", three of my bottom 10 songs of the year ("Oochie Wally", "E.I.", and "I Wish") would also get caught, so I see it more as a win - for me, at least. (I feel so sorry for @gabingston though).
As for the new entries, sure, Nickelback would make its triumphant entry on my year of birth, but given that the criminally underrated "Emotion" would make it at #83 (hm...I sense a pattern), I'm not complaining.
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Post by xtynaaguilera99 on Apr 13, 2020 16:34:29 GMT -5
Watching the 2001 Year End Chart, I would have to say that she was the Top Female Artist of that year. She ruled the Singles’ Chart with “Love Don’t Cost a Thing”, the Murder Remix of “I’m Real” and the Christina Milian-sung “Play”.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 16:36:26 GMT -5
Watching the 2001 Year End Chart, I would have to say that she was the Top Female Artist of that year. She ruled the Singles’ Chart with “Love Don’t Cost a Thing”, the Murder Remix of “I’m Real” and the Christina Milian-sung “Play”. Who is she?  |
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Post by inverse on Apr 13, 2020 17:13:01 GMT -5
Hm...I don't know how to feel about the 2001 list. All the songs I love are still in, and while it would be a real shame to lose "So Fresh, So Clean" and "Beautiful Day", three of my bottom 10 songs of the year ("Oochie Wally", "E.I.", and "I Wish") would also get caught, so I see it more as a win - for me, at least. (I feel so sorry for @gabingston though). As for the new entries, sure, Nickelback would make its triumphant entry on my year of birth, but given that the criminally underrated "Emotion" would make it at #83 (hm...I sense a pattern), I'm not complaining. I Wish might make the 2000 list.
Also how on earth is it in your bottom 10? Unless it's just because it's by R Kelly which is fair and valid
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 17:36:05 GMT -5
Hm...I don't know how to feel about the 2001 list. All the songs I love are still in, and while it would be a real shame to lose "So Fresh, So Clean" and "Beautiful Day", three of my bottom 10 songs of the year ("Oochie Wally", "E.I.", and "I Wish") would also get caught, so I see it more as a win - for me, at least. (I feel so sorry for @gabingston though). As for the new entries, sure, Nickelback would make its triumphant entry on my year of birth, but given that the criminally underrated "Emotion" would make it at #83 (hm...I sense a pattern), I'm not complaining. I Wish might make the 2000 list.
Also how on earth is it in your bottom 10? Unless it's just because it's by R Kelly which is fair and valid
Yeah, I should have put a 'potentially' in there. To be fair, I ranked it at #91 when I was doing the Year-End rankdown (so it's only my tenth least favorite), and I was hesitating between it, "Crazy", and "Put It On Me" (the artist did influence my choice, admittedly). Fortunately, I wrote a little commentary on the reveal thread, so I'll just share it here: 91. I Wish: For me, it only won over "Fiesta" because it sounds decent and has a pretty great chorus with momentum. Everyone already said what had to be said about this - it's R. Kelly asking us to feel sympathy for him with regard to his struggles as a famous artist, and while this concept could have worked well under anyone else, R. Kelly makes it sound rather hypocritical, I guess, given all the accusations that came forth against him and the fact that people are giving him a hard time for a very good reason. However, I will say that the line ' How did I become the leader of a billion men?' is pretty excellent and does imply at some of the more messed up aspects of fandom culture, which only grew worse with the advance of social media. |
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Post by xtynaaguilera99 on Apr 14, 2020 4:57:19 GMT -5
Watching the 2001 Year End Chart, I would have to say that she was the Top Female Artist of that year. She ruled the Singles’ Chart with “Love Don’t Cost a Thing”, the Murder Remix of “I’m Real” and the Christina Milian-sung “Play”. Who is she? I wrote this comment very quickly, but I guess it was understandable enough for everyone to guess who I was referring to 😂 |
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Post by inverse on Apr 14, 2020 16:49:24 GMT -5
Here's the 2000 chart. Bizarrely there's the exact same 5 repeaters with no additions or subtractions. There's a slight change that I Knew I Loved You would have made the 1999 list but I'm 99% sure it wouldn't. The 90's charts are more unfamiliar territory for me still. Also I'm pretty sure Smooth would be top 10 twice !HYPE!
Sorry aprettyoddmusicbox...
1
| 1
| Faith Hill
| Breathe
| 1114993
| 2
| 45
| 19
| 2
| 3
| Santana f/ The Product G&B
| Maria Maria
| 958187
| 1
| 26
| 18
| 3
| 4
| Joe
| I Wanna Know
| 881678
| 4
| 44
| 16
| 4
| 5
| Vertical Horizon
| Everything You Want
| 881569
| 1
| 41
| 19
| 5
| 9
| Matchbox Twenty
| Bent
| 857768
| 1
| 35
| 14
| 6
| 6
| Destiny's Child
| Say My Name
| 852466
| 1
| 31
| 11
| 7
| 8
| Lonestar
| Amazed
| 806482
| 1
| 34
| 12
| 8
| 2
| Santana f/ Rob Thomas
| Smooth
| 795392
| 1
| 36
| 13
| 9
| 15
| 3 Doors Down
| Kryptonite
| 769513
| 3
| 39
| 18
| 10
| 10
| Toni Braxton
| He Wasn't Man Enough
| 742498
| 2
| 37
| 6
| 11
| 7
| Savage Garden
| I Knew I Loved You
| 691804
| 1
| 23
| 13
| 12
| 13
| Destiny's Child
| Jumpin', Jumpin'
| 671838
| 3
| 32
| 16
| 13
| 12
| Aaliyah
| Try Again
| 671078
| 1
| 32
| 15
| 14
| 17
| Madonna
| Music
| 666411
| 1
| 21
| 12
| 15
| 11
| Creed
| Higher
| 651692
| 7
| 41
| 6
| 16
| 14
| Sisqo
| Thong Song
| 635409
| 3
| 28
| 13
| 17
| 16
| P!nk
| There You Go
| 596869
| 7
| 32
| 7
| 18
| 18
| Janet Jackson
| Doesn't Really Matter
| 583573
| 1
| 24
| 12
| 19
| 36
| Creed
| With Arms Wide Open
| 566786
| 1
| 34
| 14
| 20
| 21
| 'NSYNC
| Bye Bye Bye
| 566554
| 4
| 23
| 12
| 21
| 25
| Sisqo
| Incomplete
| 566149
| 1
| 26
| 13
| 22
| 22
| Marc Anthony
| You Sang To Me
| 557420
| 2
| 32
| 6
| 23
| 26
| Macy Gray
| I Try
| 519963
| 5
| 27
| 9
| 24
| 19
| Christina Aguilera
| What A Girl Wants
| 519755
| 1
| 19
| 7
| 25
| 29
| Nelly
| Country Grammar (Hot Sh!t)
| 512295
| 7
| 34
| 5
| 26
| 27
| 'NSYNC
| It's Gonna Be Me
| 501802
| 1
| 25
| 11
| 27
| 24
| Montell Jordan
| Get It On Tonite
| 487717
| 4
| 22
| 12
| 28
| 41
| Faith Hill
| The Way You Love Me
| 477016
| 7
| 35
| 7
| 29
| 97
| Destiny's Child
| Independent Women Part I
| 459493
| 1
| 15
| 9
| 30
| 31
| Backstreet Boys
| Show Me The Meaning Of Being Lonely
| 448005
| 6
| 24
| 8
| 31
| 33
| BBMak
| Back Here
| 438394
| 13
| 31
| 0
| 32
| 28
| Celine Dion
| That's The Way It Is
| 437067
| 6
| 21
| 9
| 33
| 38
| Christina Aguilera
| Come On Over Baby (All I Want Is You)
| 425142
| 1
| 21
| 8
| 34
| 34
| Sonique
| It Feels So Good
| 421264
| 8
| 24
| 3
| 35
| 52
| P!nk
| Most Girls
| 420987
| 4
| 21
| 9
| 36
| 72
| Mya
| Case Of The Ex
| 420844
| 2
| 20
| 9
| 37
| 35
| Nine Days
| Absolutely (Story Of A Girl)
| 416224
| 6
| 27
| 7
| 38
| 39
| Ruff Endz
| No More
| 409144
| 5
| 26
| 6
| 39
| 20
| Brian McKnight
| Back At One
| 402414
| 2
| 19
| 7
| 40
| 23
| Marc Anthony
| I Need To Know
| 401150
| 6
| 24
| 6
| 41
| 37
| Enrique Iglesias
| Be With You
| 396460
| 1
| 20
| 10
| 42
| 30
| Blaque
| Bring It All To Me
| 387706
| 5
| 19
| 8
| 43
| 32
| Missy Elliott f/ Eve, Nas, Q-Tip
| Hot Boyz
| 358780
| 5
| 16
| 8
| 44
| 42
| Christina Aguilera
| I Turn To You
| 349906
| 3
| 22
| 4
| 45
| 43
| Third Eye Blind
| Never Let You Go
| 334938
| 14
| 22
| 0
| 46
| 44
| LeAnn Rimes
| I Need You
| 330664
| 11
| 25
| 0
| 47
| 40
| Blink-182
| All The Small Things
| 329890
| 6
| 19
| 5
| 48
| 46
| Jagged Edge
| Let's Get Married
| 327069
| 11
| 24
| 0
| 49
| 50
| Sting f/ Cheb Mami
| Desert Rose
| 317918
| 17
| 26
| 0
| 50
| 51
| Eminem
| The Real Slim Shady
| 315952
| 4
| 19
| 7
| 51
| 53
| Next
| Wifey
| 315825
| 7
| 21
| 3
| 52
| 57
| 98 Degrees
| Give Me Just One Night (Una Noche)
| 315216
| 2
| 20
| 5
| 53
| 98
| Samantha Mumba
| Gotta Tell You
| 311781
| 4
| 17
| 9
| 54
| 45
| Mariah Carey f/ Joe, 98 Degrees
| Thank God I Found You
| 307139
| 1
| 17
| 4
| 55
| '01
| 'NSYNC
| This I Promise You
| 293960
| 5
| 14
| 8
| 56
| 89
| Debelah Morgan
| Dance With Me
| 292545
| 10
| 23
| 1
| 57
| 54
| Everclear
| Wonderful
| 290491
| 11
| 21
| 0
| 58
| 55
| Britney Spears
| Oops!... I Did It Again
| 289402
| 9
| 20
| 3
| 59
| 69
| Erykah Badu
| Bag Lady
| 285908
| 6
| 20
| 4
| 60
| 49
| Eiffel 65
| Blue (Da Ba Dee)
| 281597
| 6
| 17
| 4
| 61
| 59
| Red Hot Chili Peppers
| Otherside
| 279277
| 14
| 22
| 0
| 62
| 68
| Mystikal
| Shake Ya Ass
| 278522
| 13
| 20
| 0
| 63
| 66
| soulDecision f/ Thrust
| Faded
| 269334
| 22
| 24
| 0
| 64
| 60
| Jay-Z f/ UGK
| Big Pimpin'
| 260670
| 18
| 20
| 0
| 65
| 86
| Kandi
| Don't Think I'm Not
| 260483
| 24
| 22
| 0
| 66
| 61
| Son By Four
| A Puro Dolor
| 258400
| 26
| 26
| 0
| 67
| 48
| Smash Mouth
| Then The Morning Comes
| 255604
| 11
| 17
| 0
| 68
| 63
| Avant
| Separated
| 251560
| 23
| 20
| 0
| 69
| 58
| Filter
| Take A Picture
| 243634
| 12
| 15
| 0
| 70
| 64
| Carl Thomas
| I Wish
| 240356
| 20
| 20
| 0
| 71
| X
| Ja Rule f/ Christina Milian
| Between Me And You
| 234386
| 11
| 16
| 0
| 72
| 67
| Kid Rock
| Only God Knows Why
| 232338
| 19
| 20
| 0
| 73
| 71
| DMX
| Party Up (Up In Here)
| 232050
| 27
| 21
| 0
| 74
| X
| Vertical Horizon
| You're A God
| 227360
| 23
| 19
| 0
| 75
| 73
| Dr. Dre f/ Eminem
| Forgot About Dre
| 221419
| 25
| 20
| 0
| 76
| 74
| Jo Dee Messina
| That's The Way
| 221222
| 25
| 20
| 0
| 77
| 75
| Westlife
| Swear It Again
| 220035
| 20
| 20
| 0
| 78
| '01
| Dream
| He Loves U Not
| 219862
| 2
| 14
| 3
| 79
| 62
| Jagged Edge
| He Can't Love U
| 219268
| 15
| 17
| 0
| 80
| X
| Barenaked Ladies
| Pinch Me
| 218767
| 15
| 17
| 0
| 81
| 76
| Dr. Dre f/ Snoop Dogg
| The Next Episode
| 216419
| 23
| 20
| 0
| 82
| X
| Backstreet Boys
| Shape Of My Heart
| 215109
| 9
| 12
| 3
| 83
| 47
| Whitney Houston
| My Love Is Your Love
| 212465
| 4
| 11
| 5
| 84
| 77
| Britney Spears
| From The Bottom Of My Broken Heart
| 209767
| 14
| 20
| 0
| 85
| 78
| Savage Garden
| Crash And Burn
| 208906
| 24
| 20
| 0
| 86
| 79
| Chad Brock
| Yes!
| 208078
| 22
| 20
| 0
| 87
| 94
| Lil Bow Wow f/ Xscape
| Bounce With Me
| 207610
| 20
| 19
| 0
| 88
| 80
| George Strait
| The Best Day
| 206500
| 31
| 20
| 0
| 89
| 81
| Donnell Jones
| Where I Wanna Be
| 205800
| 29
| 20
| 0
| 90
| 82
| Toby Keith
| How Do You Like Me Now?!
| 204800
| 31
| 20
| 0
| 91
| X
| Travis Tritt
| Best Of Intentions
| 201150
| 27
| 20
| 0
| 92
| 84
| Goo Goo Dolls
| Broadway
| 200811
| 24
| 20
| 0
| 93
| X
| Ricky Martin
| She Bangs
| 200694
| 12
| 13
| 0
| 94
| 85
| Da Brat f/ Tyrese
| What'Chu Like
| 197200
| 26
| 20
| 0
| 95
| '01
| R. Kelly
| I Wish
| 197158
| 15
| 14
| 0
| 96
| X
| Profyle
| Liar
| 195864
| 14
| 16
| 0
| 97
| 87
| Lee Ann Womack
| I Hope You Dance
| 194350
| 32
| 20
| 0
| 98
| 88
| Alice Deejay
| Better Off Alone
| 189500
| 27
| 20
| 0
| 99
| 90
| Lonestar
| What About Now
| 189200
| 30
| 20
| 0
| 100
| 91
| Sammie
| I Like It
| 188439
| 24
| 20
| 0
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Post by inverse on Apr 14, 2020 17:00:57 GMT -5
Not entirely sure what would make the 1999 list that missed here. I Wanna Love You Forever and U Know What's Up for sure. Waiting For Tonight has a small chance.
As for the songs that were just too weak I have I Don't Wanna at #102 and Shackles at #104
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Post by xtynaaguilera99 on Apr 14, 2020 17:04:27 GMT -5
I’ll never forget how Americans treated Oops!... I Did It Again.
A WASTED #1 hit for Mrs. Spears.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 17:12:42 GMT -5
"Smooth" making the top 10 twice would be so fitting for one of the biggest and most iconic songs of all time 😍
Glad to see "Kryptonite" by 3 Doors Down making to the Year-End top 10 as well. As for "I Wish", I don't mind it making it, especially since all of my favorite hits from 2000 would still be in. However, I really hope "Waiting For Tonight" doesn't get caught between years. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Additional comments: I find it a funny coincidence how "He Loves U Not" and "He Can't Love U" are back to back given how their titles are so similar. 😄
Also, the infamous "She Bangs" making the Year-End would make it such an easy punching bag for worst lists. Still better than "Oochie Wally", regardless.
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Post by 94sidekick on Apr 14, 2020 17:56:32 GMT -5
I'm going to assume that Ludacris's first hit "What's Your Fantasy" would've been caught between 2000 and 2001 as it peaked in December of 2000.
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Post by inverse on Apr 19, 2020 19:28:11 GMT -5
Is 2011 coming along ok?
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Post by mikerivera on Apr 19, 2020 23:03:59 GMT -5
Yeah sorry, I have the numbers mostly done, but my professors decided to pile me up with way too much work over the past week. It’s the closing stretch of classes, so I can’t say it’s unexpected. When I can find an open 3 hours to publish the list, I will.
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Post by xtynaaguilera99 on Apr 20, 2020 3:43:19 GMT -5
What is the next one coming up from you? |
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