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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 24, 2020 17:17:29 GMT -5
Aside from Abel being snubbed, my biggest question mark is Cardi's team not submitting WAP. They said they're saving it for next year as a larger part of the album campaign, but... that doesn't make sense. The song can't be eligible if it was released during this eligibility period unless it's some remix or a live version. I do not see that happening in any way, shape, or form. They really dropped the ball on that. Even if the album version WAS eligible, is anyone really going to be checking for that song a year and a half after it's release? Would've been a guaranteed nomination and probably a win for both of them if they had submitted this year. So stupid. It can be eligible, as per updated rules. But it seems stupid to wait, agreed.
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Post by irice22 on Nov 24, 2020 17:17:44 GMT -5
I thought the Weeknd was going to sweep the Grammy's this year. Feels like a fluke!
Also... Coldplay had an album? Where have I been?
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Post by Caviar on Nov 24, 2020 17:28:20 GMT -5
What I'm not understanding is why The Weeknd needs to campaign hard at all behind the scenes when BL has been absolutely everywhere this entire year?? I simply cannot imagine the voters "forgetting" about his nominations while deciding who gets into Pop ESPECIALLY over Beiber. This theory further loses its value when you consider that more people than ever got AOTY noms without even getting into their genre categories! It's shameful at the total disrespect towards him. At the very least he deserved Pop Album and Pop Song. How are we even supposed to take any of these nominations seriously when there's a corrupt process behind the scenes? Harvey didn't even confirm whether or not he was shortlisted for the general categories because he know this was a total coup. Former NARAS President Deborah Dugan warned us last year this process was rigged after she got fired and I bet there's some serious KKK s**t going on within that organization the public isn't aware of.
I have no use for any of these nominations and do not plan to scrutinize other categories for simply not giving a f**k about these awards anymore. The only thing I'm looking forward to is reading the colossal drop in TV ratings the next day.
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Post by Mike on Nov 24, 2020 17:31:29 GMT -5
Well ratings for all award shows have been down SHARPLY since the pandemic started. This will be no different, but these nominations certainly aren't helping their cause either.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 24, 2020 17:32:10 GMT -5
I’m not watching. Not that I was going to anyways, but now I’m REALLY not watching,
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Post by 🌺T.A.T.I🌺 on Nov 24, 2020 17:58:15 GMT -5
The Weeknd was robbed.
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Post by nickd on Nov 24, 2020 18:08:07 GMT -5
Clearly the biggest snub is "Blinding Lights" not getting any nominations. That is truly perplexing. I don't actually think he was snubbed in the album category, though, cause the album is good but has some flaws. How many people actually vote on the Grammy nominees. I keep reading people in this thread referring to the Grammy committee as "they" as if a handful of people engineered all of this. Isn't it quite a lot of people? I'm not really sure. About 20 people apparently. variety.com/2020/music/news/grammy-harvey-mason-weeknd-snub-show-1234839208/There's thousands of people that vote for the nominated albums, and then the smaller 20 person committee looks at the 20 albums with the most votes and decides which ones they like best. I believe the 20 person committee can also push forward an album that wasn't among the top 20 vote getters if there's enough of a consensus about it being worthy.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Nov 24, 2020 18:10:34 GMT -5
I just realized that Renee Zellweger got a nomination fro Traditional Pop Vocal Album for "Judy'! Come through, Zellegend! Now that's a comeback!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 24, 2020 18:20:18 GMT -5
Well ratings for all award shows have been down SHARPLY since the pandemic started. This will be no different, but these nominations certainly aren't helping their cause either. I hope they drop by 80%.
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Post by GP on Nov 24, 2020 18:23:39 GMT -5
Well he has the Super Bowl! Jlo 2020 tease
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Post by leoapp on Nov 24, 2020 18:24:59 GMT -5
Has it ever happened before in recent years? A musician with either huge hit/huge album or both (sales-wise/critic-wise), but was totally snubbed without even getting nominated for 1 genre category?
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Post by GP on Nov 24, 2020 18:25:47 GMT -5
out of Dua, Harry & Abel, Dua was whom I least expected to remain victorious oh wow
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Post by classictvshowsfan on Nov 24, 2020 18:27:11 GMT -5
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Post by GP on Nov 24, 2020 18:27:18 GMT -5
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 24, 2020 18:30:54 GMT -5
I wish whoever made that for Dua would have put Record of the Year under Don't Start Now instead of the album.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 24, 2020 18:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 24, 2020 18:37:47 GMT -5
Might be sacrilegious to say this but...BTS wasn't snubbed. Hell, weren't they even nominated in a major Pop category? Their stans are extremely good at consistently dominating the conversation, which could explain all the noise, but like...they weren't snubbed for anything lol. It almost irks me to see all these headlines reading "BTS, The Weeknd snubbed at Grammys" when one very clearly was, and the other still snagged some love from the Academy.
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Post by when the pawn... on Nov 24, 2020 18:42:38 GMT -5
I just have to laugh. Not every category is a miss but AOTY, the biggest of all, is an embarrassing mess. Taylor Swift will win AOTY and it's a toss-up between her, Dua, Post, and Billie for R/SOTY.
Album of the Year What happened here. Taylor and Dua were expected and are deserving. Post was expected and is fine, I guess. Haim is good but feels pretty random, especially without genre recognition. Coldplay, a band of classic pop/rock, Grammy-winning material, is nominated for an album that no one knew came out (and didn't get any genre recognition). Jhene is...ok? Not the R&B act that should've gotten a lift this year, if anyone was going to. Black Pumas and Jacob Collier...idk. Taylor Swift will win but Dua Lipa should.
Record/Song of the Year Not that bad. Black Pumas and Black Parade are not among the records/songs of the year but fine. With The Weeknd and Harry absent, I wouldn't be shocked for Billie to take both, though Taylor, Dua, and Post, and maybe even Megan, will be competitive. I'd vote for "Don't Start Now" for both.
Best New Artist Actually a pretty good field. Megan Thee Stallion certainly has the cultural momentum but could split pop/hip-hop votes with Doja Cat, leaving "Grammy-friendly" Phoebe Bridgers a path to victory. I'd vote for Kaytranada but that isn't happening.
POP SOLO How "Yuumy" achieved a nomination over "Blinding Lights"...idk. Taylor vs. Dua vs. Billie. Wouldn't be the weirdest thing to see Harry surprise here or Pop Album. Unsurprisingly, I'd vote for Dua Lipa here.
POP DUO/GROUP Being Gaga's one real shot at winning, I'd love for her to take this, although I'd be happy to see BTS win as well. Of course, Taylor and Bon Iver are most likely going to win.
POP ALBUM I could theoretically see anyone other than Bieber win this, though, again, Taylor Swift is in front.
DANCE RECORDING Flume, Disclosure, and Diplo have the name recognition, although Kaytranada & Kali Uchis should win this.
DANCE ALBUM Based on name recognition, Disclosure will win. Kaytranada should.
ROCK PERFORMANCE/SONG Guessing Fiona is out in front for these? She should be. But wouldn't be shocked if Phoebe Bridgers or Brittany Howard surprised
ROCK ALBUM Guesing Michael Kiwanuka will win but I'm crossing my fingers for Sturgill Simpson.
ALTERNATIVE ALBUM Please, god, Fiona Apple.
R&B PERFORMANCE/SONG "Black Parade" is the only one nominated in both, not to mention its general field nods. It'll probably win. Chloe X Halle should win R&B Song, and
R&B ALBUM Idk...John Legend?
PROGRESSIVE R&B ALBUM Guessing after the AOTY announcement that Jhene Aiko is the frontrunner. But Chloe X Halle deserve it.
RAP PERFORMANCE "Savage" is the obvious answer. Will and should. Lil Baby would be the spoiler.
MELODIC RAP PERFORMANCE "The Box" absolutely deserves this but never doubt the recording academy's hard-on for Anderson .Paak.
RAP SONG Could be Lil Baby, Megan, or Roddy. I'd put my money on "Savage."
RAP ALBUM Honestly, probably the biggest mess of a category after AOTY even though the other rap categories look ok. Hoping for and expecting Jay Electronica to win. Where are Roddy Ricch, Lil Uzi Vert, Dababy, Lil Baby, Pop Smoke, Juice WRLD, Run the Jewels?
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Post by jodakyellow on Nov 24, 2020 18:43:01 GMT -5
Might be sacrilegious to say this but...BTS wasn't snubbed. Hell, weren't they even nominated in a major Pop category? Their stans are extremely good at consistently dominating the conversation, which could explain all the noise, but like...they weren't snubbed for anything lol. It almost irks me to see all these headlines reading "BTS, The Weeknd snubbed at Grammys" when one very clearly was, and the other still snagged some love from the Academy. Lol "Dynamite" being nominated for Pop Group Performance was more than I realistically expected from them, let alone what I think they deserved.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 24, 2020 18:46:40 GMT -5
Might be sacrilegious to say this but...BTS wasn't snubbed. Hell, weren't they even nominated in a major Pop category? Their stans are extremely good at consistently dominating the conversation, which could explain all the noise, but like...they weren't snubbed for anything lol. It almost irks me to see all these headlines reading "BTS, The Weeknd snubbed at Grammys" when one very clearly was, and the other still snagged some love from the Academy. Lol "Dynamite" being nominated for Pop Group Performance was more than I realistically expected from them, let alone what I think they deserved. Same. I was never sold on them or Blackpink getting any attention. And that's not meant as a slight against either of the two acts; the Grammys just remain a relatively local (aka, western European-centric) show, and just because stans are louder than critics doesn't mean the Academy's going to pay them any mind. Might be sacrilegious to say this but...BTS wasn't snubbed. Hell, weren't they even nominated in a major Pop category? Their stans are extremely good at consistently dominating the conversation, which could explain all the noise, but like...they weren't snubbed for anything lol. It almost irks me to see all these headlines reading "BTS, The Weeknd snubbed at Grammys" when one very clearly was, and the other still snagged some love from the Academy. I didn't even think "Dynamite" would be nominated. Over "Blinding Lights," too? I mean, it was nominated in a category that "Blinding Lights" wouldn't have been able to compete in (Pop Duo/Group), but I agree with your sentiment.
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 24, 2020 18:46:46 GMT -5
No Alicia Keys either with her strongest album in over a decade? The album was released after the deadline. Yes but no songs either when she released more than a third of the album before the deadline.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 18:48:06 GMT -5
I didn't even think "Dynamite" would be nominated. Over "Blinding Lights," too? I mean, it was nominated in a category that "Blinding Lights" wouldn't have been able to compete in (Pop Duo/Group), but I agree with your sentiment. damn I just deleted my post after realizing The Weeknd is a single person and BTS is a group lmaooo you caught me slipping
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Post by forg on Nov 24, 2020 18:51:23 GMT -5
Sad with The Weeknd snubs
Glad for H.E.R getting another GF nomination!
And my hunch that If The World Was Ending can get nominated happened!
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Post by jodakyellow on Nov 24, 2020 19:01:06 GMT -5
I downloaded that Ingrid Andress album when it came out and never got around to listening to it... after her nominations today I've listened to it twice and I'm in loveeeee
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Post by when the pawn... on Nov 24, 2020 19:01:17 GMT -5
I'm not surprised Dynamite didn't get ROTY but I do think it should have. BTS being nominated/performing (on their own) is guaranteed ratings. For the recording academy to be repeatedly oblivious to that...idk digging your own grave.
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Post by jodakyellow on Nov 24, 2020 19:06:51 GMT -5
Of note: After Christopher Cross' sweep of the 4 general awards in 1980, he never won another Grammy.
Billie Eilish repeated the feat in 2020, and can outdo Cross by being winning with just one of her 4 noms in 2021.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 24, 2020 19:07:41 GMT -5
Might be sacrilegious to say this but...BTS wasn't snubbed. Hell, weren't they even nominated in a major Pop category? Their stans are extremely good at consistently dominating the conversation, which could explain all the noise, but like...they weren't snubbed for anything lol. It almost irks me to see all these headlines reading "BTS, The Weeknd snubbed at Grammys" when one very clearly was, and the other still snagged some love from the Academy. Yeah, it's actually really screwed up how much the BTS stans took over the conversation today. Like The Weeknd was trending on Twitter and most people talking about the snubbing were BTS stans inserting the band into the conversation, "BTS and The Weeknd were so robbed!" At least BTS got something, The Weeknd got nothing.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Nov 24, 2020 19:13:20 GMT -5
Nothing BTS has done is worthy of Grammy nominations, let alone wins, but yay for cultural phenomenons?
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Post by when the pawn... on Nov 24, 2020 19:20:02 GMT -5
I don't know if this has been mentioned but, per an article on Pitchfork, Black Pumas is up for AOTY for the deluxe version of their self-titled debut. The original version was released in June 2019. After being nominated, presumably for the content of this album, for Best New Artist last year. W. T. F.
The original album (released June 21, 2019) had 10 songs. The new material on the Deluxe version (nominated for 2021 Album of the Year) is five new songs plus some live versions of the original songs plus two covers.
What is this mess?
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 24, 2020 19:31:46 GMT -5
I don't know if this has been mentioned but, per an article on Pitchfork, Black Pumas is up for AOTY for the deluxe version of their self-titled debut. The original version was released in June 2019. W. T. F. Big yikes. I love Black Pumas and am excited they’re nominated for stuff, but...how is something like this allowed to happen? Feels like such an obvious loophole to cover.
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