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Post by Dreams on Nov 24, 2020 19:33:43 GMT -5
He DRAGGED them.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 24, 2020 19:39:45 GMT -5
TWEET OF THE DECADE, right THERE!
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Nov 24, 2020 19:41:13 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about artists actually complaining about not being nominated for/winning awards though. Let the media and stans fight for you. It comes across as entitled and narcissistic.
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Post by when the pawn... on Nov 24, 2020 19:47:56 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about artists actually complaining about not being nominated for/winning awards though. Let the media and stans fight for you. It comes across as entitled and narcissistic. Kinda agree. As far as a particular artist getting snubbed, especially one who has been nominated many times before (and won several awards), it happens. To be clear, I do think he was majorly snubbed. He released an album that got a ton of acclaim and was one of the biggest of the year. That album spawned, perhaps, the biggest song of the year. But the Grammys have always been tripping over themselves to make one wrong decision after another so he'd probably be better off rolling his eyes, shining the many trophies he has won this year, preparing for the Super Bowl, and collecting his next paycheck. IMO I do think the Grammys are corrupt (as well as tasteless lol) but I don't know that The Weeknd's snub inherently proves it. The bigger issue, that I haven't seen get much attention, is that no rap artists got nominated for AOTY (unless we're counting Post Malone, which...) despite absolutely dominating the year.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 19:48:03 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about artists actually complaining about not being nominated for/winning awards though. Let the media and stans fight for you. It comes across as entitled and narcissistic. yup and if a woman did this everyone would be calling them names and dragging them for complaining. I was already on his side but now I'm just 🤷🏽♀️
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 24, 2020 19:52:12 GMT -5
Ariana dragged them 2 years ago..
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Post by PGriffin on Nov 24, 2020 19:53:38 GMT -5
Why is he writing to the Grammys? Should this be directed to his label/management who submitted him in the pop categories? Can the voters choose to switch the category of a submission??
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 19:54:05 GMT -5
Ariana dragged them 2 years ago.. do you mean when she skipped attending because they wouldn't let her perform what she wanted to perform?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:56:40 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about artists actually complaining about not being nominated for/winning awards though. Let the media and stans fight for you. It comes across as entitled and narcissistic. idk, normally I'd agree with this, but if what TMZ is saying is true then Weeknd was 100% in the right for calling them out on this one. tl;dr Grammy said 'it's us or the Super Bowl'. Weeknd and his team negotiated to be able to perform at both, but talks got testy and now it's strongly suspected that Weeknd booking the Super Bowl cost him nominations. It's not clear why the Grammys would feel threatened by the idea of Abel performing at both, but a full snub essentially means Grammys have no 'reason' to invite him to perform now.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 24, 2020 19:57:15 GMT -5
TMZ said that supposedly they forced him to decide between performing at the Superbowl (NBC broadcast) or with them (CBS broadcast) and the snub was a result.
I am inclined to believe there is some truth. The nominations are clearly not based simply on who got the most votes. Yummy would not be more voted for than Blinding Lights, and certainly not this Black Pumas artist.
This is why I won't be watching nor really ever taking them serious in subsequent years. Grammys were always more a miss than hit, the Deborah Dugan scandal last year showed they're shady af with internal affairs, and this also just highlights (along with numerous other past incidents) they are shady af with the whole validity of this all in general. Why should they be taken seriously at all?
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 19:57:28 GMT -5
Why is he writing to the Grammys? Should this be directed to his label/management who submitted him in the pop categories? Can the voters choose to switch the category of a submission?? yes. if the genre committee figures the album is more pop than the genre, they can toss it that way. changes is not r&b tho and isn't listed as such even on streaming services so idk what he's on. Taylor's album is considered "alternative" by her camp & streaming services but they submitted to pop because that's what it really is. Bieber's album is at best a somewhat r&b-inspired pop record.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 19:58:22 GMT -5
yikes @ the Grammy vs. Super Bowl thing. if that's true, fuck the Recording Academy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:59:26 GMT -5
And you know what, Weeknd made the right choice. Even as problematic as the NFL has been the past few years, the halftime show is definitively a better move for one's career and legacy* than one night at the Grammys.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 20:01:21 GMT -5
TMZ said that supposedly they forced him to decide between performing at the Superbowl (NBC broadcast) or with them (CBS broadcast) and the snub was a result. I forgot the SB is on NBC this year. The different network explains it.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 24, 2020 20:01:48 GMT -5
Also, the fact they really thought they'd snub him in every single category and completely get away with it lets me know just how out of touch they are.
Love Beyonce, but her being the most nominated artist also in 2020 is just the icing on the cake to them being out of touch.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 24, 2020 20:02:19 GMT -5
Harvey Mason Jr has proven to be quite the sloppy follow-up to Neil Portnow (and the woman in between the two, who blasted TRA, too).
The Recording Academy seriously needs a huge, fat, massive overhaul.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 24, 2020 20:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 20:04:12 GMT -5
yes? this is about the producers not letting her perform what she wanted to perform / had prepared. your point?
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Post by Choco on Nov 24, 2020 20:06:10 GMT -5
Considering he already has a Grammy the choice between performing there or at the Super Bowl is almost laughably easy.
Not that it should have been a choice at all. Fuck the Recording Academy.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 24, 2020 20:06:17 GMT -5
and this one was when the Grammy's invited late Mac Miller's family to the show and then gave the award to Cardi B...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 20:08:00 GMT -5
yes? this is about the producers not letting her perform what she wanted to perform / had prepared. your point? I think Soundclock genuinely thought you were asking for clarity's sake, not trying to check you on anything Meanwhile I just remembered how salty I was that we didn't get to see that dress on the red carpet. You know me, always focused on the really important things.
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 24, 2020 20:08:04 GMT -5
TMZ said that supposedly they forced him to decide between performing at the Superbowl (NBC broadcast) or with them (CBS broadcast) and the snub was a result. I forgot the SB is on NBC this year. The different network explains it. It's on CBS this year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 20:18:21 GMT -5
The Grammys have always had messiness and shady practices within them, they are just coming to light in more recent years
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Post by Ty on Nov 24, 2020 20:24:25 GMT -5
I'm done with Grammy fetishizing the idea of diversity by nominating anything by Beyonce and John Legend because that's the only two black artists they know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 20:28:56 GMT -5
I'm honestly most frustrated at how this all makes it impossible for me to be truly happy for Dua, who 100% deserved her shine this year. When the process is so visibly rigged it makes everyone else's successes within that process feel hollow and that sucks.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 24, 2020 20:33:00 GMT -5
I'm done with Grammy fetishizing the idea of diversity by nominating anything by Beyonce and John Legend because that's the only two black artists they know. Lmao this exactly, they are tokens at this point, and even then Beyonce straight up was robbed of AOTY in 2015 when she actually deserved it to that album that clearly didn't have the comparable impact or legacy. It's just a joke at this point. Taking this seriously in 2020 is absurd.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Nov 24, 2020 20:41:56 GMT -5
Done with them. Never watching the show again. Last shred of credibility gone. Poof. Hope it was worth it, NARAS!
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Post by nickd on Nov 24, 2020 20:58:00 GMT -5
Why is he writing to the Grammys? Should this be directed to his label/management who submitted him in the pop categories? Can the voters choose to switch the category of a submission?? The committee can I think, yes.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Nov 24, 2020 21:00:14 GMT -5
Of note: After Christopher Cross' sweep of the 4 general awards in 1980, he was never even nominated for a Grammy again. Billie Eilish repeated the feat in 2020, but has outdone Cross by being nominated in 2021.
That's not true though... Cross was also nominated for many awards on the following year after his sweep, including Record and Song of the Year for his #01 song "Arthur's Theme"
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:06:21 GMT -5
Wow, the ultimatum thing makes the Grammy's look like even more of a embarrassment than they did before. "Lose the biggest performance of your life or we won't nominate you!!!"
Complete bullshit. More industry people need to speak up on this.
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