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Post by shayonce on Nov 24, 2020 23:00:04 GMT -5
looking at weeknd's history. he got 1 pop nomination in 2015 for "Can't Feel My Face". and nothing for Starboy album's song. so he's snubbed again. clearly industry voter, especially pop voters don't support him. that's all.
and even for R&B, he might be too pop, too mainstream. starboy got nothing from R&B other than album.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 24, 2020 23:12:41 GMT -5
Is it weird that, if Justin Bieber hadn’t been nominated as much as he was, the whole thing would look less suspect to me? I think that’s what throws me off ultimately. I could see a Weeknd snub as much as I could have seen a snub by any artist favoured for nominations, but it’s what made it in place of the snubs that makes me question them. I’d even be less questioning if Bob Dylan got in in place of Coldplay for Album.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 23:14:20 GMT -5
You think Yummy genuinely got more votes than Blinding Lights? lol I don't think many vote in Pop during the first round, so why would I think otherwise? Do you think NBC is still broadcasting the Super Bowl? Regardless of the number of them, pop voters go for familiarity 99.9% of the time, so the biggest pop hit of the year being entirely missing from that field is a mystery however you look at it. Also, think back to the post I made earlier re: it being possible for Weeknd to have lacked the # of votes due to behind the scenes politics. That post was made before anyone thought the SB was part of the conversation, and tbh it seems that I might have been more on the money with that post than I realized. I was only wrong about it being a label problem and not a NARAS/committee problem. Your theory and the 'Grammys blackballed The Weeknd' theory can certainly co-exist with each other; maybe the Grammy execs 'encouraged' a certain number of voters to not vote for him (or to vote for other people, as this would essentially be a vote against him). Depending on when The Weeknd's team and the Grammys execs were negotiating, voting was still open - TMZ's sources claim that "The Weeknd's team was in talks for weeks" with the Grammy peeps which does potentially line the end of the voting period up with the time frame in which the NFL typically locks in its halftime headliner. Someone pointed out other years where a SB performer got nominated in the same year, but I don't know if voting was still open when those performer were confirmed to be the halftime performer (or for that matter, if any of them had contact with the Grammys beforehand regarding it). Also all but one of those shows were 6+ years ago so it's entirely possible that the Grammys are bothered now for reasons that did not exist then. I certainly wouldn't doubt that Weeknd's team is behind this story being fed to TMZ, but TMZ (much as I hate to say this) is not wrong a lot these days. So I'm trying to think of reasons the Grammys would try to issue such an ultimatum given that there isn't a network conflict, and the only two things I can think of are a) award show ratings have taken a huge hit this year and they don't want to risk increasing whatever drop in ratings they are already bound to get by having even a small 'overlap' with another show's lineup; and/or b) Weeknd's team was so aggressive or rude that it rubbed the execs the wrong way when they might have otherwise not cared.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 23:39:10 GMT -5
looking at weeknd's history. he got 1 pop nomination in 2015 for "Can't Feel My Face". and nothing for Starboy album's song. so he's snubbed again. clearly industry voter, especially pop voters don't support him. that's all. and even for R&B, he might be too pop, too mainstream. starboy got nothing from R&B other than album. idk, I feel like CFMF might give even more support to the 'Weeknd was blackballed' theory. That proves that he can pull in pop (and GF) votes if he has a big enough hit, and Blinding Lights is huger in 2020 than CFMF was in 2014. Did Weeknd/Republic actually submit to pop, or was he moved there? That could make a difference too. He normally submitted his album to urban contemporary but the change of that category to 'progressive r&b' this year might have thrown things off for the album. Still, I have a very hard time believing voters would have overlooked BL in pop solo without a little active prodding to do so.
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 24, 2020 23:43:15 GMT -5
Literally a year ago, the biggest solo hit and 3rd biggest song on the year end Hot 100, after Old Town Road and Sunflower, was also mysteriously missing from Pop/GF. Maybe the Weeknd just isn't loved enough in Pop like we think. Who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 23:46:13 GMT -5
Literally a year ago, the biggest solo hit and 3rd biggest song on the year end Hot 100, after Old Town Road and Sunflower, was also mysteriously missing from Pop/GF. Maybe the Weeknd just isn't loved enough in Pop like we think. Who knows. Nah the Grammy committee just has always been lowkey shady and its just coming to light Without Me deserved noms last year, Blinding Lights + The Weeknd's whole album deserved it Halsey didn't even have Manic out by last year's deadline so thats another story so she only really got snubbed for the one song Abel got snubbed for his entire album basically which is infinitely worse since the album has be critically and commercially huge, which essentially should have basically guaranteed it a spot in multiple categories There is no doubting about any of that
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 24, 2020 23:59:00 GMT -5
Literally a year ago, the biggest solo hit and 3rd biggest song on the year end Hot 100, after Old Town Road and Sunflower, was also mysteriously missing from Pop/GF. Maybe the Weeknd just isn't loved enough in Pop like we think. Who knows. Nah the Grammy committee just has always been lowkey shady and its just coming to light Without Me deserved noms last year, Blinding Lights + The Weeknd's whole album deserved it Halsey didn't even have Manic out by last year's deadline so thats another story so she only really got snubbed for the one song Abel got snubbed for his entire album basically which is infinitely worse since the album has be critically and commercially huge, which essentially should have basically guaranteed it a spot in multiple categories There is no doubting about any of that Blinding Lights imo should have received at least 3 nominations (Record/Song/Pop Solo). I could say 4 and include Music Video, but tbh I don't pay enough attention to that category, plus it has a panel and it's not typically very mainstream. However, After Hours was hit or miss in Pop Album i think (I did personally predict it to hit, though) and thus also hit or miss in AOTY. I think most people that I have seen post online prior to the nominations considered Blinding Lights to basically be the album, hence why I considered the ablum to be hit or miss. The Grammys should create a committee for every genre. Then hopefully we wouldn't see things like Yummy and Changes getting in instead of critically and commercially superior work.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Nov 25, 2020 0:26:18 GMT -5
Done with them. Never watching the show again. Last shred of credibility gone. Poof. Hope it was worth it, NARAS! That they, a group of rich people, lost your viewership? I know you are addressing them directly, but...totally!
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Post by nickd on Nov 25, 2020 0:28:27 GMT -5
When did I say they all couldnt. I didnt. I said not many vote in the first round, which as per previous years feedback and info, is correct. What does the amount of voters even have to do with him being snubbed though? Can't Feel My Face was nominated in the category, despite being a smaller hit and when he was a newer artist. Also whether it's 10 or 10,000 voters absolutely nobody is thinking of "Yummy" before "Blinding Lights" when recapping the Pop songs of the year. Especially not anyone specifically involved in the music industry. Like... The number of voters matters because if it takes only 5 votes to get into a category it's a lot easier to use your connections to get people to vote for your artist's albums than if you need 500 votes to get into a category. And if only a very small percentage of those eligible vote in the first round due to being apathetic, then they're less likely to resist having their minds changed based on principle if changing their minds (or even just getting off their asses and voting) means there's something in it for them.
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Post by shayonce on Nov 25, 2020 1:01:31 GMT -5
I just can't see the scenario weeknd was in top 20 most voted in general and failed to get nominations. at least for blinding lights.
you know.. everyone was like weeknd will be nominated, most easy pick for nomination. and because of that he was not on 1st pick for everyone. they all thought he would get nominated and choose the others. lol it can happen.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 25, 2020 1:04:35 GMT -5
What does the amount of voters even have to do with him being snubbed though? Can't Feel My Face was nominated in the category, despite being a smaller hit and when he was a newer artist. Also whether it's 10 or 10,000 voters absolutely nobody is thinking of "Yummy" before "Blinding Lights" when recapping the Pop songs of the year. Especially not anyone specifically involved in the music industry. Like... The number of voters matters because if it takes only 5 votes to get into a category it's a lot easier to use your connections to get people to vote for your artist's albums than if you need 500 votes to get into a category. And if only a very small percentage of those eligible vote in the first round due to being apathetic, then they're less likely to resist having their minds changed based on principle if changing their minds (or even just getting off their asses and voting) means there's something in it for them. Okay and if Bieber got there due to connections with ~hundreds~ of voters (albeit missing all general categories in the process, and somehow getting less votes than Black Pumas with these strong connections), you also have Doja Cat who got nominated over The Weeknd. You aren’t convincing me Doja Cat, who has a total of 1 hit has more connections or was thought of before The Weeknd when it came to nominating music the past year lol. The majority consensus is rightfully that this was deliberately done.
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 25, 2020 1:16:42 GMT -5
The number of voters matters because if it takes only 5 votes to get into a category it's a lot easier to use your connections to get people to vote for your artist's albums than if you need 500 votes to get into a category. And if only a very small percentage of those eligible vote in the first round due to being apathetic, then they're less likely to resist having their minds changed based on principle if changing their minds (or even just getting off their asses and voting) means there's something in it for them. Okay and if Bieber got there due to connections with ~hundreds~ of voters (albeit missing all general categories in the process, and getting less votes than Black Pumas with these strong connections), you also have Doja Cat who got nominated over The Weeknd. You aren’t convincing me Doja Cat, who has a total of 1 hit has more connections or was thought of before The Weeknd when it came to nominating music the past year lol. The majority consensus is rightfully that this was deliberately done. What are you going on about now with comparing votes for Bieber and Black Pumas? The BRP decided the Black Pumas got in the GF, not a straight vote. No one is going to convince you of anything it seems. If the Weeknd was deliberately not nominated for the GF, that is on the BRP - assuming he was top 20 in each of the three categories. That is their duty to select nominees after all. If he was deliberately left out of the Pop field, that is on the voters for not voting for him.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Nov 25, 2020 1:23:17 GMT -5
So asides the fact it seems that the GF nominations were pulled out of a bag with random names, and the obvious Weeknd snub, here are some other thoughts.
- I am shocked that The Chicks did not score a single nomination - especially for Best Country Album when it arguably was the most acclaimed country album that came out in 2020.
- I am shocked that Maren Morris only scored 1 nomination. I do not know who she pissed off, but from getting 4-5 nominations a ceremony to only 1/ceremony is quite off.
- How the hell did Run the Jewels not score a single nomination?
- Happy that Ingrid Andress scored 3-nominations, given how she has been fading in the country scene I figured Grammy nominations were completely out of the picture.
- Love that Mickey finally got a nomination. Fuck the CMAs & ACMs & all of country, a Solo Performance nomination at the Grammys >>>>> any of those awards or radio succes.
- How the hell did Beyonce score the most nominations this year..? Am I missing something?
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 25, 2020 1:33:00 GMT -5
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Post by iHype. on Nov 25, 2020 1:40:06 GMT -5
Okay and if Bieber got there due to connections with ~hundreds~ of voters (albeit missing all general categories in the process, and getting less votes than Black Pumas with these strong connections), you also have Doja Cat who got nominated over The Weeknd. You aren’t convincing me Doja Cat, who has a total of 1 hit has more connections or was thought of before The Weeknd when it came to nominating music the past year lol. The majority consensus is rightfully that this was deliberately done. What are you going on about now with comparing votes for Bieber and Black Pumas? The BRP decided the Black Pumas got in the GF, not a straight vote. No one is going to convince you of anything it seems. If the Weeknd was deliberately not nominated for the GF, that is on the BRP - assuming he was top 20 in each of the three categories. That is their duty to select nominees after all. If he was deliberately left out of the Pop field, that is on the voters for not voting for him. Okay, and you don't see the issue/clear politics with them leaving him out of SOTY/ROTY and putting someone like Black Pumas? Lol. And are you also going to claim Black Pumas got enough votes to make the top 20.... but not Blinding Lights. You're also convinced that there is absolutely nothing out of place that was done with these nominations when 98% of the people who laid eyes on these lists called out the nonsense lol.
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 25, 2020 1:41:10 GMT -5
So asides the fact it seems that the GF nominations were pulled out of a bag with random names, and the obvious Weeknd snub, here are some other thoughts.
- I am shocked that The Chicks did not score a single nomination - especially for Best Country Album when it arguably was the most acclaimed country album that came out in 2020.
- I am shocked that Maren Morris only scored 1 nomination. I do not know who she pissed off, but from getting 4-5 nominations a ceremony to only 1/ceremony is quite off.
- How the hell did Run the Jewels not score a single nomination?
- Happy that Ingrid Andress scored 3-nominations, given how she has been fading in the country scene I figured Grammy nominations were completely out of the picture.
- Love that Mickey finally got a nomination. f**k the CMAs & ACMs & all of country, a Solo Performance nomination at the Grammys >>>>> any of those awards or radio succes.
- How the hell did Beyonce score the most nominations this year..? Am I missing something?
*The Chicks (who I wish got in) were not the most acclaimed album. Metacritic scores: Ashley McBryde and Brandy Clark both had an 83, Miranda Lambert had the same as them with an 82. *Maren, who must have the same industry voters that Luke Combs has for the ACM/CMA's since they don't f**k with her anymore at the grammys, and they didn't f**k with him this year. *RTJ4 is confusing to me, but they have only ever been nominated once, so I guess it shouldn't be too surprising? *Ingrid is actually gaining traction on the country scene. *Really happy for Mickey, it's too bad she didn't get into Country Song as well. *Beyonce is Beyonce haha.
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 25, 2020 1:49:57 GMT -5
What are you going on about now with comparing votes for Bieber and Black Pumas? The BRP decided the Black Pumas got in the GF, not a straight vote. No one is going to convince you of anything it seems. If the Weeknd was deliberately not nominated for the GF, that is on the BRP - assuming he was top 20 in each of the three categories. That is their duty to select nominees after all. If he was deliberately left out of the Pop field, that is on the voters for not voting for him. Okay, and you don't see the issue/clear politics with them leaving him out of SOTY/ROTY and putting someone like Black Pumas? Lol. And are you also going to claim Black Pumas got enough votes to make the top 20.... but not Blinding Lights. You're also convinced that there is absolutely nothing out of place that was done with these nominations it seems. You are exhausting. Whether I have an issue or not with the 8 they select of the 20 they get to see is really a moot point. It's the BRP's job to select 8 nominees. Yes, I am going to claim the Black Pumas got enough votes to make the top 20 since they are nominated and that is as they claim, how you get nominated for a GF award. I don't know if Blinding Lights got enough votes or not, I would think it's possible, but since he didn't make it into Pop Solo, and there are many more categories that receive votes it shouldn't be that unbelievable that after the FIRST ROUND OF VOTING WHERE ONLY A FRACTION OF THE MEMBERS VOTE that any song could miss. Facts are more important than feelings. As far as we know, the grammys are following their own set of rules. Nothing is out of place in the GF as far as I'm concerned. Blinding Lights could have had the most votes in ROTY, and the majority decided they didn't want it in. Nothing wrong with that as per their own guidelines.
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Post by shayonce on Nov 25, 2020 1:52:22 GMT -5
Beyonce's nomination is coming from 3 different projects and 4 different filed. R&B/Rap/Visual Media + General. her nominees for savage remix and Black is king was expected by many. only shocking is Black Parade getting ROTY/SOTY and both.
but after all. this is Grammy. they always have many random, non chart hit in general. 5 out of 8 AOTY nominee were not in most people's prediction. jp sax song, black pumas song nominated is also random. only reason people put h.e.r on list was just because she was new grammy darling. BP nomination is no different than all those random picks from committee.
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Post by shayonce on Nov 25, 2020 1:55:34 GMT -5
committee do secret voting after discussion. it's not just discussion on table and done. it's possible BL was in top20 shortlist but after secret voting it didn't make the top 8 or whatever method they're using. it's snub indeed but saying it's the corruption, rigged is.. another thing.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 25, 2020 1:59:40 GMT -5
I don't like If the World was Ennding getting a SOTY nom but I at least understand why. They wanted one song that was tied to the quarantine so regardless of quality, I do think it was representative of the landscape.
At least they didnt give it to Stuck with U
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 2:09:02 GMT -5
Grammy still has the hype because their name is Grammy, musically they have been dead for years. This year, where are: Lewis Capaldi, Saint Jhn, Tones and I, The Weeknd obviously, Sufjan Stevens, Arizona Zervas(should be pop record and record of the year, not that lazy Cardigan), KEM, Stokley, Toni Braxton(had some terrific Urban music compared to extremely overrated Beyonce), Killers(not Coldplay softies). Generally very weak year for music and Grammy makes it even more pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 2:23:27 GMT -5
Those “Yummy” nominations might just be the most perplexing of the entire bunch. In a popularity category - Yummy has over 500 million views on Youtube, it is actually better song than radio charts showed and his pink hair only should receive few nominations...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 2:27:52 GMT -5
The Weeknd's snub has to be the biggest I've ever seen, when has an artist this popular ever been shut out this bad? I don't understand. The album and Blinding Lights were huge and they had good critical success as well. Makes no sense why they didn't give him any nominations. It's difficult when smaller artists don't make the cut but that makes sense, the Grammy's cutting off the biggest act of the year does not. Abel must've pissed someone off at the Recording Academy or something, cuz this makes no goddamn sense. "In Your Eyes" should have received something at least.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 2:29:51 GMT -5
I think Grammys should give Bob Dylan The Best New Artist nomination next year...
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 25, 2020 3:35:11 GMT -5
I think Grammys should give Bob Dylan The Best New Artist nomination next year... Your funny.
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Post by blanksnake17 on Nov 25, 2020 4:00:59 GMT -5
Grammy still has the hype because their name is Grammy, musically they have been dead for years. This year, where are: Lewis Capaldi, Saint Jhn, Tones and I, The Weeknd obviously, Sufjan Stevens, Arizona Zervas(should be pop record and record of the year, not that lazy Cardigan), KEM, Stokley, Toni Braxton(had some terrific Urban music compared to extremely overrated Beyonce), Killers(not Coldplay softies). Generally very weak year for music and Grammy makes it even more pathetic. I know you didn’t just say Dance Monkey and Roxanne are better than Beyoncé and Cardigan... I don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse take
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 25, 2020 4:25:37 GMT -5
Generally very weak year for music and Grammy makes it even more pathetic. Generally a weak year for music? You mean a year that had Taylor, Dua, Weeknd, Fiona Apple, Phoebe Bridgers, Rina, and so SO much more?
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Nov 25, 2020 4:51:51 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS Recording Academy Chief Harvey Mason Jr. Responds to The Weeknd’s ‘The Grammys Remain Corrupt’ Tweet
By Paul Grein 11/25/2020 The controversy over The Weeknd’s failure to receive a single nomination in the 63rd annual Grammy Awards has threatened to overshadow the nominations themselves. Many saw The Weeknd’s instant classic single “Blinding Lights” as a front-runner, maybe the front-runner, to win record of the year. It wasn’t even nominated in that category—or for song of the year, best pop solo performance or best music video, other categories in which it was entered. Some people in The Weeknd’s camp went to the press with an angry missive that stated: “There were many conversations between the Grammys and The Weeknd team about his performance slated for the 2021 Grammys. There was an ultimatum given resulting in a struggle over him also playing the Super Bowl that went on for some time and [it] was eventually agreed upon that he would perform at both events. The Grammys had their nomination ballots as of Oct. 12 and had all these convos with The Weeknd team in the past month and today on Nov. 24, The Weeknd had not one nomination and is now completely ignored by the Grammys. This was the year that they were supposed to rise up. What is the process and where is the transparency?” That’s pretty blunt, but it’s nothing compared to a tweet from The Weeknd himself: “The Grammys remain corrupt. You owe me, my fans and the industry transparency.” Asked for a response, Harvey Mason Jr., the Recording Academy’s chair and interim president/CEO, supplied a statement to Billboard that read in part, “We understand that The Weeknd is disappointed at not being nominated. I was surprised and can empathize with what he’s feeling. His music this year was excellent…We were thrilled when we found out he would be performing at the upcoming Super Bowl and we would have loved to have him also perform on the Grammy stage the weekend before …To be clear, voting in all categories ended well before The Weeknd’s performance at the Super Bowl was announced, so in no way could it have affected the nomination process.” Told, through a publicist, that a fairly tepid statement wasn’t going to quell this controversy, Mason got on the phone with Billboard for a brief Q&A. Kid Cudi, Scooter Braun, Tinashe & More Express Frustration Over The Weeknd's 2021 Grammys Snub First, a few clarifications. First-round Grammy voting did indeed end on Oct. 12, the date cited in the missive from The Weeknd’s camp. The Nominations Review Committee met to determine the nods in the Big Four categories—album, record and song of the year plus best new artist -- on Oct. 27-28. The announcement of The Weeknd’s Super Bowl headlining gig was made public on Nov. 12. The Recording Academy declined to say whether “Blinding Lights” was among the top 20 vote-getters from rank-and-file voting members in the record and/or song of the year categories, or whether The Weeknd’s album After Hours was among the top 20 vote-getters in album of the year. If they were, those entries would have been presented to the Nominations Review Committee. If they weren’t, they would not have been (per an Academy explanation of their process). The Academy has never divulged who is on the initial lists from which the committee picks the final nominees, despite calls for greater transparency. The Academy revealed that The Weeknd’s camp entered After Hours in the best progressive R&B album category, the new name for best urban contemporary album, where The Weeknd won two of his three Grammys to date. In the Grammy screening process, the album was moved to the best pop vocal album category. The Grammys have the prerogative to move recordings to the categories where they think they fit best, though that particular move may have cost The Weeknd a nomination. His past Grammy history shows his strength in the urban contemporary (now progressive R&B) category. Also, that category is much less congested. It had 77 entries this year, compared to 186 for best pop vocal album. Nominations in the pop field are not reviewed by a committee, so The Weeknd’s failure to receive nominations for best pop solo performance for “Blinding Lights,” best pop duo/group performance for “In Your Eyes” (featuring Doja Cat) and best pop vocal album for After Hours is simply due to the fact that these titles didn’t get enough support from rank-and-file voting members. The best music video category, where “Blinding Lights” also failed to be nominated, is committee-reviewed. Grammys 2021: The Biggest Snubs and Surprises The Weeknd isn’t the Grammy nomination magnet you might imagine him to be. He has received 10 nominations over the years, but just eight for his own recordings. The other two are for featured roles on recordings by Wiz Khalifa and Beyoncé. He received seven nominations for his 2015 blockbuster Beauty Behind the Madness, but just one for its follow-up, Starboy, and none for his 2018 EP My Dear Melancholy. The Weeknd opened the MTV Video Music Awards on Aug. 30 with a performance of “Blinding Lights” atop a New York skyscraper. It was one of the most captivating awards show performances in memory. In a story at the time, I wrote “Top that, Grammys.” It looks as if the Grammys won’t even have the chance to try. The scuttlebutt is that the Grammys’ relationship with The Weeknd became strained when he was planning to perform on both the Grammys and the Super Bowl. And that the Grammys retaliated by denying him any nominations.
No. First of all, the Super Bowl performance is [one week] after our show, so at no time would we be upset if he were to perform on the Super Bowl…Our show producer, Ben Winston, and CBS had some preliminary conversations. We would have loved to have him on our stage. I think he was working toward that happening. Do you know The Weeknd?I do not. He used a strong word in characterizing the Grammys—“corrupt.” Your reaction to that?It saddened me. I try to empathize with where that came from, but it was difficult to hear. I can understand he’s disappointed [at being shut out]. Everybody at the academy understands that he’s disappointed. I was personally surprised that he was not nominated. This omission of “Blinding Lights” isn’t quite as egregious as when Prince’s “When Doves Cry” wasn’t nominated for record of the year in 1984, but it’s up there. “Blinding Lights” is a great record, a smash hit, impeccably crafted. It seemed to have everything that the Grammys historically have been about. I thought it was the front-runner to win record of the year.I thought it had a shot [at winning] as well. Have you reached out to him to try to talk to him today?I have, yes. I have not spoken to Abel [Tesfaye, The Weeknd’s birth name], but I have spoken to his representatives and his label. What did you tell them?I think it’s probably best that I keep that conversation between the two of us. We had a couple phone calls. Did you ask to speak to Abel?No, I did not. You’ve been nominated for five Grammys as a songwriter or producer and have lost them all, so you know what it’s like to have a disappointing experience with the Grammys.I can imagine what he’s feeling, but I don’t pretend to put myself on the level of The Weeknd as one of the biggest artists in our industry. But I can imagine that he’s disappointed. Might he still perform on the show?The Weeknd has always been someone that the Academy has respected. I think a decision of that magnitude as far as the show would be made by Ben Winston. We’ve had him on the show [twice] in the past, and he’s always done incredible performances for us. www.billboard.com/articles/news/awards/9489869/recording-academy-harvey-mason-jr-responds-the-weeknd-the-grammys-tweet/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3axhmtxyD-n3bgGVcxlhCQLUqfb88fGC2eTM1FZzdP7EEJealawM-rjq0
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Nov 25, 2020 5:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by Keelzit on Nov 25, 2020 5:51:19 GMT -5
Weeknd is a fave of mine but I don't understand why artists of his caliber even bother putting their work up for evaluation. Awards mean absolutely nothing. Never had and never will. And even if they did why would anyone who makes music for the love of making music even want to voluntarily be pitted against other people who do the exact same thing? Competition when it comes to art is a concept I'll never be able to come around to.
With that being said,
1. Why is Beyonce nominated for songs she released 2 summers ago? Shouldn't they be eligible for last year's awards? Nevertheless I wish she gets zero wins. Her recent music has been nothing but boring sonicwise. 2. fka twigs is the true AOTY winner but from the options given I want Taylor to get it so we get a speech where she drags Scooter Braun live on tv 3. speaking of Scooter Braun and the fan fictions going around that he bought nominations for Bieber's abysmal 2020 releases.. ok. So what? Whoever runs the Grammys should get all the blame for accepting his bribe. 4. Say So is the only song that matters on the categories it's nominated in.
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