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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 28, 2020 21:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Nov 28, 2020 21:24:07 GMT -5
The Grammys can go to hell.
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Post by andrebra on Nov 28, 2020 21:46:06 GMT -5
I don’t think Manic had much of a chance at getting nominated lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2020 23:02:50 GMT -5
Halsey should still be pressed about Without Me, not Manic (well, I suppose WM being included on Manic could justify remaining pressed). Manic was a nice album, though. well Studio 2054 is a GREAT showing from Miss Lipa It gave me the same feeling I had when Bruno's CBS special aired right after nominations were announced; a big look and fantastic timing that is sure to keep her in voters' minds for the final voting period. Putting my own fandom aside, I am objectively intrigued by Dua and whether she wins anything because she and her team have made it very clear that they are capable and willing to play the marketing/campaign game as well as - if not better than - any 'veteran' artist. Ughhhh stupid academy and their shadiness sucking the enjoyment out of it all.
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Post by GP on Nov 29, 2020 5:15:30 GMT -5
"and Manic did too", I got it last year, but Halsey is inserting herself this year when she shouldn't. and her on the last bit saying "I knwo you'll blacklist me" she's already preparing an excuse for when her next subpar release goes down the drain once again and she'll yet say, I was blacklisted!1!
There are legitimate concerns regarding Abel's situation but other than that, there people are fucking bandwagoners and I hate it.
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Post by shayonce on Nov 29, 2020 6:33:51 GMT -5
they be silent when they're nominated, mad when they're not nominated. simple as that.
after hearing black puma's Colors. I think they're very strong contender. I just heard jacob guy.. he's too different, indie for grammy's avg voters.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 29, 2020 7:00:38 GMT -5
I think the Weeknds tweet is lame. “You owe me”. Ugh. Grammy’s don’t owe anyone anything. It’s arrogant and comes across as a bad loser. Try n be gracious. Beyoncé got snubbed a bunch in the beginning too. Beyonce is not the best example here. She's been over-nominated/rewarded as it is, but she's also gotten nominations throughout her career. DC3 got nominations and wins, including "Say My Name" getting in ROTY and SOTY. "Crazy In Love" got in ROTY and won 2 genre awards. B'Day got a genre Album win, and "Irreplaceable" got a ROTY nom. It goes on from there. When are you trying to claim she got "snubbed a bunch?"
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 29, 2020 7:06:17 GMT -5
I could see them leaving The Weeknd out of one of them to prevent a Bruno-like sweep, but him not getting in anywhere is puzzling.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Nov 29, 2020 7:09:55 GMT -5
I could see them leaving The Weeknd out of one of them to prevent a Bruno-like sweep, but him not getting in anywhere is puzzling. And even then, as much as I hate sweeps, it seems weird they would deliberately leave someone out on some categories to prevent it from happening, especially someone who had such an undeniably massive year as The Weeknd.
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Post by shayonce on Nov 29, 2020 7:18:35 GMT -5
my prediction for now. ROTY - Colors (2. Everything I Wanted - 3. Black Parade ) AOTY - Folklore (2. Chilombo - 3. Future Nostalgia) SOTY - Cardigan (2. I Can't Breathe - 3. The Box/Everything I Wanted)
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 29, 2020 7:24:13 GMT -5
I could see them leaving The Weeknd out of one of them to prevent a Bruno-like sweep, but him not getting in anywhere is puzzling. And even then, as much as I hate sweeps, it seems weird they would deliberately leave someone out on some categories to prevent it from happening, especially someone who had such an undeniably massive year as The Weeknd. I only say that because of the male thing; criticism of males winning a lot (even though that isn't actually a pattern considering Adele, Swift, Musgraves, etc). Snubbing him goes a long way to ensure a woman wins these categories. It's even more apparent to me because you then have Beyonce in some of these categories for no reason (not to knock the music itself, but come the entirely of hell on!). It's also weird to me Fiona Apple has never gotten an AOTY nomination despite releasing stellar album after stellar album.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 29, 2020 7:25:27 GMT -5
they be silent when they're nominated, mad when they're not nominated. simple as that. Right. The Weeknd was apparently in talks to perform and such, so he had no issue with them...until he wasn't nominated. I don't know that Beyonce herself has criticized the Grammys, but the people around her have...but she still gets submitted to every known category. Justin Bieber has long griped about the Grammys, but he's still submitting for nominations. I say put up or shut up. If you think they're terrible, then stop submitting for nominations, stop performing, etc. Or maybe get on the board or something to see what's really going on.
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Post by Ty on Nov 29, 2020 7:36:56 GMT -5
Every snub has to be about Halsey, huh? She's like the worst part of the victimhood culture.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Nov 29, 2020 13:44:17 GMT -5
As a Black Pumas fan, I will say that re-releasing your album with a a couple new tracks, a few covers and live versions shouldn't qualify for you a second run at Album of the Year. Their material was passed over for Album the year it was originally released. Get your nominations for Colors this year and call it a day, but the Album nomination is BS.
And considering I had no idea who Jacob Collier was a week ago, I will say that Djesse Vol. 3 slaps.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 29, 2020 13:54:11 GMT -5
In the upcoming year or two, it wouldn't shock me at all to see a creators coalition of sort get formed, with intent to overhaul the entire Recording Academy. Get rid of Harvey Mason, Jr. and the entire top-tier level of the board, reconstruct the voting system (no more behind-the-curtain committees), rename categories, and try to redeem the name of the GRAMMY Award. It's one of the big four awards in the entertainment industry, and its gradual loss of merit in the eyes of its contenders is a very, very terrible look for the Academy's future. If artists don't even want the award anymore, what purpose will it serve? Stop alienating your own.
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Post by imbondz on Nov 29, 2020 17:21:23 GMT -5
I think the Weeknds tweet is lame. “You owe me”. Ugh. Grammy’s don’t owe anyone anything. It’s arrogant and comes across as a bad loser. Try n be gracious. Beyoncé got snubbed a bunch in the beginning too. Beyonce is not the best example here. She's been over-nominated/rewarded as it is, but she's also gotten nominations throughout her career. DC3 got nominations and wins, including "Say My Name" getting in ROTY and SOTY. "Crazy In Love" got in ROTY and won 2 genre awards. B'Day got a genre Album win, and "Irreplaceable" got a ROTY nom. It goes on from there. When are you trying to claim she got "snubbed a bunch?" I couldn’t think of anyone and I know people have complained about her getting snubbed for not winning best album. The Beatles hardly ever got nominated! How’s that?
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Post by shayonce on Nov 29, 2020 22:41:59 GMT -5
In the upcoming year or two, it wouldn't shock me at all to see a creators coalition of sort get formed, with intent to overhaul the entire Recording Academy. Get rid of Harvey Mason, Jr. and the entire top-tier level of the board, reconstruct the voting system (no more behind-the-curtain committees), rename categories, and try to redeem the name of the GRAMMY Award. It's one of the big four awards in the entertainment industry, and its gradual loss of merit in the eyes of its contenders is a very, very terrible look for the Academy's future. If artists don't even want the award anymore, what purpose will it serve? Stop alienating your own. "bernie sanders will be president and all guns will be destroyed, everything will be free".
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Post by myhouse911 on Nov 30, 2020 0:05:18 GMT -5
Beyonce is not the best example here. She's been over-nominated/rewarded as it is, but she's also gotten nominations throughout her career. DC3 got nominations and wins, including "Say My Name" getting in ROTY and SOTY. "Crazy In Love" got in ROTY and won 2 genre awards. B'Day got a genre Album win, and "Irreplaceable" got a ROTY nom. It goes on from there. When are you trying to claim she got "snubbed a bunch?" I couldn’t think of anyone and I know people have complained about her getting snubbed for not winning best album. The Beatles hardly ever got nominated! How’s that?Is this serious lol? The Beatles were nominated in the GF seven years in a row (65-71). 5 AOTY (all in a row), 3 ROTY, 1 SOTY and BNA.
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Post by imbondz on Nov 30, 2020 5:41:43 GMT -5
I couldn’t think of anyone and I know people have complained about her getting snubbed for not winning best album. The Beatles hardly ever got nominated! How’s that?Is this serious lol? The Beatles were nominated in the GF seven years in a row (65-71). 5 AOTY (all in a row), 3 ROTY, 1 SOTY and BNA. My bad! I thought they didn’t get a lot of Grammy love
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 30, 2020 8:30:40 GMT -5
Is this serious lol? The Beatles were nominated in the GF seven years in a row (65-71). 5 AOTY (all in a row), 3 ROTY, 1 SOTY and BNA. My bad! I thought they didn’t get a lot of Grammy love There’s a Wikipedia page for the Grammys you can check out for history with nominations. Maybe do that before posting again eh?
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Post by ddlz on Nov 30, 2020 16:23:57 GMT -5
Everything Deborah Dugan said in those memos, particularly about industry insider connections, is true. The artists who have actual buzz and great albums have been shut out of the big categories or not nominated at all, and their spots have been given to Jacob Collier, Black Pumas, H.E.R. and other industry plants. All pretense has been dropped.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 30, 2020 17:49:07 GMT -5
H.E.R. is certainly the most obvious example. Nothing against her as an artist because she's cool, but 6 general field nominations in the past 3 years is very over the top.
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Post by Rican@ on Nov 30, 2020 18:46:01 GMT -5
H.E.R. is certainly the most obvious example. Nothing against her as an artist because she's cool, but 6 general field nominations in the past 3 years is very over the top. I love HER; however, I’m even side eyeing this now. It was cute when her not album album got those nominations and a win. I was even down for last year’s nominations and thought they were more deserving than her last ones. Now, it seems like politics because nothing backs these nominations. She’s a decent to good singer and songwriter; however, she doesn’t shine anymore than her contemporaries. I’m all for Black Is King being nominated and winning Best Long Form; however, they are killing that mess with Black Parade and those ridiculous nominations. The most Beyoncé should have gotten this year was four (Savage for ROTY and Rap Song, Brown Skin Girl for Best Music Video and the one win I mentioned earlier). I don’t get this ass kissing for her right now. It’s strange.
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 30, 2020 18:49:53 GMT -5
I don't see how Beyonce would win a lot of what she's up for, which I think may only further feed the whole "GRAMMYS SNUBBED BEYONCE AGAIN" narrative that's been hot under their asses for years now.
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Post by Rican@ on Nov 30, 2020 18:52:02 GMT -5
I don't see how Beyonce would win a lot of what she's up for, which I think may only further feed the whole "GRAMMYS SNUBBED BEYONCE AGAIN" narrative that's been hot under their asses for years now. These nominations are pointless and also undeserving too.
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 30, 2020 19:03:44 GMT -5
they be silent when they're nominated, mad when they're not nominated. simple as that. Right. The Weeknd was apparently in talks to perform and such, so he had no issue with them...until he wasn't nominated. I don't know that Beyonce herself has criticized the Grammys, but the people around her have...but she still gets submitted to every known category. Justin Bieber has long griped about the Grammys, but he's still submitting for nominations. I say put up or shut up. If you think they're terrible, then stop submitting for nominations, stop performing, etc. Or maybe get on the board or something to see what's really going on. Frank Ocean did just that, unlike so many. He submitted nothing from Endless or Blonde to the Grammys and I don't think any of his one-off singles this year were submitted either.
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Post by imbondz on Dec 1, 2020 14:39:04 GMT -5
My bad! I thought they didn’t get a lot of Grammy love There’s a Wikipedia page for the Grammys you can check out for history with nominations. Maybe do that before posting again eh? Shush. Or just block me.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 1, 2020 15:27:24 GMT -5
I’m all for Black Is King being nominated and winning Best Long Form; however, they are killing that mess with Black Parade and those ridiculous nominations. The most Beyoncé should have gotten this year was four (Savage for ROTY and Rap Song, Brown Skin Girl for Best Music Video and the one win I mentioned earlier). I don’t get this ass kissing for her right now. It’s strange. This year really is puzzling as it relates to Beyonce, though maybe it's because her work tied into what was going on culturally and NARAS wanted to see supportive? Even so, give "Black Parade" a random SOTY nod and call it a day. It's just so wild to me as I can't remember any other artist sustaining their love to this extent. The Grammy love for Alicia Keys died off fairly quickly ("No One" didn't get any general field noms for instance), Ed Sheeran got shut out of general field noms for his third album, etc. When Beyonce releases her next studio album will the love continue, or will she basically be shut out as they dry up their love?
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Post by kimberly on Dec 1, 2020 16:24:34 GMT -5
Beyoncé is a celebrity to celebrities. She's who most people in the music business look up to. She and her husband have worked with so many people, own a management company, and a streaming service. They are quite literally the music industry. I'm highly doubtful that whatever Beyoncé does next will be so horrendous that it will receive no love.
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Post by when the pawn... on Dec 1, 2020 19:09:35 GMT -5
So performers should be
Billie Eilish Black Pumas Chloe x Halle Coldplay Dababy Doja Cat Dua Lipa Haim Harry Styles Fiona Apple Jacob Collier Jhene Aiko Lady Gaga Megan Thee Stallion Phoebe Bridgers Post Malone Roddy Ricch Taylor Swift
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