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Post by rainygirl on Aug 10, 2020 15:50:17 GMT -5
Yeah so with how this whole situation is shaping out I really wouldn't be surprised if MYH blocked WAP from #1 this week with the Barbz' 100k million sales magically appearing out of nowhere you cannot hold over sales for the next week from the previous week . But fret not Barbz, I predict 3 or 4 number ones in their future before 2020 is over . I wish all these fans brought this energy to voting in the elections |
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Post by Myth X on Aug 10, 2020 16:00:15 GMT -5
Poor thing. Maybe he will think twice about better things to spend all that money in the future. |
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Post by levitating on Aug 10, 2020 16:02:16 GMT -5
so now that the new rules are in place will fan bases still be able to manipulate #1’s?
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Post by Choco on Aug 10, 2020 16:03:50 GMT -5
Has Ferg actually confirmed that had he didn’t send his numbers ? Or is this another QC storyline ? And no the payola thing isn’t going away 😂😂...t but Barbz really are not on a moral high ground anyways when it comes to charting Ferg hasn't confirmed anything. For all I know he probably thought the song was released this week cause he waited till after the tracking week to release merch. But i did see a tweet that made sense, Ferg's website apparently got 66k of the 80k sales while Nicki's website got 14k (apparently her website was crashing a ton and refunding purchases so Barbz confided in Ferg) and only Nicki's website numbers were sent to Billboard. This whole thing just seems so funny. This is a narrative created by the same people that claim that they had 80k preorders because obviously the real numbers were much lower. Either these sales do not exist or they were filtered out for being fraudulent. What would Ferg win by not reporting? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 16:09:04 GMT -5
Harry Styles possibly could get a number one !! just one week after Taylor !! Has there ever been a back-to-back number one from two exes ? hm. |
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 10, 2020 16:11:47 GMT -5
Ferg hasn't confirmed anything. For all I know he probably thought the song was released this week cause he waited till after the tracking week to release merch. But i did see a tweet that made sense, Ferg's website apparently got 66k of the 80k sales while Nicki's website got 14k (apparently her website was crashing a ton and refunding purchases so Barbz confided in Ferg) and only Nicki's website numbers were sent to Billboard. This whole thing just seems so funny. This is a narrative created by the same people that claim that they had 80k preorders because obviously the real numbers were much lower. Either these sales do not exist or they were filtered out for being fraudulent. What would Ferg win by not reporting? that’s kinda what I think too . All these stories are coming from the same QC account However I say again , we can’t blame artists for taking advantage of a broken system. Billboard needs to clean this up |
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Post by Choco on Aug 10, 2020 16:14:23 GMT -5
I don't necessarily fault any of the artists for potentially taking advantage of a loophole. Charts are game.
But the idea that Asap Ferg would not report sales, and deprive himself of his first top 10 hit? It doesn't make sense to me. It was a bigger deal for him vs Nicki who has countless top 10 hits already.
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 10, 2020 16:16:06 GMT -5
I don't necessarily fault any of the artists for potentially taking advantage of a loophole. Charts are game. But the idea that Asap Ferg would not report sales, and deprive himself of his first top 10 hit? It doesn't make sense to me. It was a bigger deal for him vs Nicki who has countless top 10 hits already. spot on!’ Makes zero sense whatsoever but I guess that’s the story they want to believe |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2020 16:21:55 GMT -5
Conspiracy theorists gotta conspire, after all.
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Post by saucecan7 on Aug 10, 2020 16:24:31 GMT -5
barbz on twitter r unironically saying that cardi and atlantic payed ferg to not send his website sales to billboard to stop nicki from getting her third #1
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Post by Choco on Aug 10, 2020 16:28:38 GMT -5
barbz on twitter r unironically saying that cardi and atlantic payed ferg to not send his website sales to billboard to stop nicki from getting her third #1 uh Cardi's got some deep pockets because she recently had to pay for: 1. Airplay 2. Spotify playlisting 3. Streams on Apple Music 4. Youtube views 5. Asap Ferg's lifetime supply of weed to prevent Nicki from another #1. If only her check to 6ix9ine had cleared before they got Trollz to #1, we could have been saved. |
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 10, 2020 16:30:46 GMT -5
barbz on twitter r unironically saying that cardi and atlantic payed ferg to not send his website sales to billboard to stop nicki from getting her third #1 uh ً😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣. I’m dying !!! |
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 10, 2020 16:32:22 GMT -5
barbz on twitter r unironically saying that cardi and atlantic payed ferg to not send his website sales to billboard to stop nicki from getting her third #1 uh Cardi's got some deep pockets because she recently had to pay for: 1. Airplay 2. Spotify playlisting 3. Streams on Apple Music 4. Youtube views 5. Asap Ferg's lifetime supply of weed to prevent Nicki from another #1. If only her check to 6ix9ine had cleared before they got Trollz to #1, we could have been saved. stop I can’t breathe 😂😂😂😅😅 can’t make this stuff up. So basically it’s everyone else’s fault |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Aug 10, 2020 16:33:18 GMT -5
I love r/Popheads, as it is the community that introduced me to albums like E•MO•TION and After Laughter, but the amount of users calling “Watermelon Sugar” a TikTok hit hurts my brain
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Post by m450n on Aug 10, 2020 16:36:35 GMT -5
Ferg hasn't confirmed anything. For all I know he probably thought the song was released this week cause he waited till after the tracking week to release merch. But i did see a tweet that made sense, Ferg's website apparently got 66k of the 80k sales while Nicki's website got 14k (apparently her website was crashing a ton and refunding purchases so Barbz confided in Ferg) and only Nicki's website numbers were sent to Billboard. This whole thing just seems so funny. This is a narrative created by the same people that claim that they had 80k preorders because obviously the real numbers were much lower. Either these sales do not exist or they were filtered out for being fraudulent. What would Ferg win by not reporting? I mean the website literally reports 66k website sales if you pay attention to the emails. I dont see why the Barbz would lie about that part when it is public record. If you buy a song it shows you your order number. I have no clue what happened, you are asking the wrong person. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2020 16:40:17 GMT -5
It is completely baffling that no one on Ferg's label or management team would be on top of sales on an hourly basis if there was any chance it was going to be a big hit.
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Post by dovahduck on Aug 10, 2020 16:41:27 GMT -5
Poor thing. Maybe he will think twice about better things to spend all that money in the future. I literally just bought a 2006 Dodge Charger (in great condition) for $1200. I don't how people can be this irresponsible with money. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Aug 10, 2020 16:47:16 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10
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Post by annoymous1 on Aug 10, 2020 16:48:31 GMT -5
The Weeknd having the most weeks(w/BL) in the top 10 as he should!
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Post by renfield75 on Aug 10, 2020 17:06:03 GMT -5
It seems like he's a really nice guy. I'm not mad at him and I understand why his label pushed this song so hard this week. I just don't like what is happening in this whole situation. Let's hope that Billboard adjusts its rules and maybe even the chart formula. I hear ya !! I also wish the 4 singles per order thing goes away . It is after all still a form of ‘bundling’ . Billboard is playing catch up with all the schemes , stans using VPN , creating multiple iTunes accounts , buying different Visa cards etc etc . It’s mind boggling what you read the fans are doing on Twitter . Not sure billboard will ever be able to close all these loopholes They won't, because there will always be loopholes. Fans and labels have been manipulating the charts since they began. Through the payola scandals of the 50s, the fraudulent sales and airplay reports into the Neilsen/SoundScan era, the 49 cent singles and suppression tricks in the 90s, multiple purchases on iTunes, ticket bundles, vinyl bundles, streaming parties...people will always find ways to juice numbers. It's just part of how it works. As soon as Billboard seems to eliminate one tactic another rears its head. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2020 17:08:23 GMT -5
As long as there is clout to be gained by chasing hits, there will be people looking to exploit loopholes for that clout.
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 10, 2020 17:09:14 GMT -5
I hear ya !! I also wish the 4 singles per order thing goes away . It is after all still a form of ‘bundling’ . Billboard is playing catch up with all the schemes , stans using VPN , creating multiple iTunes accounts , buying different Visa cards etc etc . It’s mind boggling what you read the fans are doing on Twitter . Not sure billboard will ever be able to close all these loopholes They won't, because there will always be loopholes. Fans and labels have been manipulating the charts since they began. Through the payola scandals of the 50s, the fraudulent sales and airplay reports into the Neilsen/SoundScan era, the 49 cent singles and suppression tricks in the 90s, multiple purchases on iTunes, ticket bundles, vinyl bundles, streaming parties...people will always find ways to juice numbers. It's just part of how it works. As soon as Billboard seems to eliminate one tactic another rears its head. yup yup and yup . There will always be something like you said . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 17:14:46 GMT -5
Poor thing. Maybe he will think twice about better things to spend all that money in the future. I literally just bought a 2006 Dodge Charger (in great condition) for $1200. I don't how people can be this irresponsible with money. off topic but what a deal?? wth |
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Post by kimberly on Aug 10, 2020 17:19:39 GMT -5
there are loopholes in the presidential elections in this country so it's unreasonable to hope billboard will one day manage to get rid of theirs imo lol
there will always be artists, and even more so labels, who will go the extra mile to cheat the system
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Post by cahramel on Aug 10, 2020 17:23:29 GMT -5
This is a narrative created by the same people that claim that they had 80k preorders because obviously the real numbers were much lower. Either these sales do not exist or they were filtered out for being fraudulent. What would Ferg win by not reporting? I mean the website literally reports 66k website sales if you pay attention to the emails. I dont see why the Barbz would lie about that part when it is public record. If you buy a song it shows you your order number. I have no clue what happened, you are asking the wrong person. Maybe the order number to Move Ya Hips started in a higher number already. |
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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Aug 10, 2020 17:36:49 GMT -5
I would just like to state, for the record, that in December after 'Fine Line' just came out, I asked what are the odds of Watermelon Sugar becoming a hit, to which everyone replied with no's all around. Lmao and here we are. Wild
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Post by Myth X on Aug 10, 2020 17:40:35 GMT -5
barbz on twitter r unironically saying that cardi and atlantic payed ferg to not send his website sales to billboard to stop nicki from getting her third #1 uh I'm screaming  |
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 10, 2020 18:00:03 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10 Blinding Lights 25 Rockstar 15 Roses 10 Whats Poppin 7 Watermelon Sugar 5 Blueberry Faygo 4 Cardigan 2 Go Crazy 2 Savage Love 2 My Future 1 Here comes 40 weeks for BL! |
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Post by 85la on Aug 10, 2020 18:04:16 GMT -5
I would just like to state, for the record, that in December after 'Fine Line' just came out, I asked what are the odds of Watermelon Sugar becoming a hit, to which everyone replied with no's all around. Lmao and here we are. Wild I just haven't been impressed with his solo work so far, in fact for me I like his music the least out of all the 1D members. Let's also not pretend that WS is a completely organic #1 either, with all the bundling and discounting and new videos... it's fall next week should be pretty substantial, at least to #4 probably. I think Billie's debut is the most impressive, no tricks or gimmicks, solid opening streaming and sales with no mass bundling that I'm aware of, and even picking up some decent airplay with no radio deal. Just solid reputation and quality of music. If you have to buy someone's reputation, they probably ain't got much of one! |
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