Billboard Hot 100: 12/19/2020

[Henry Suárez]

I heard Wonder last week and was just thinking how Shawn is getting so stale and insipid, it seems I wasn't the only one, looking at these posts.

and it must be worrying for his team to see how fast Pop dropped Wonder and even more alarming, Hot AC.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

AIWFCIY already in the top 10 of Apple Music.

[Deleted]

Dec 5, 2020 20:46:19 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Dec 5, 2020 18:08:16 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

Lol you're not gonna mention it got to #213 after vaulting 299 spots?

I think 24KGoldn has a shot at mild pop stardom. "Mood" being massive provides a nice launchpad, and "Coco" has appeal at both pop & rhythmic and has a catchy hook + DaBaby, whose had multiple pop radio top 10s this year. If it can keep climbing on streaming, I see potential

Even though i like his music since Valentino days i don't think he's reaching stardom. Just look at his social media accounts, #1 song in the country didn't propell him to even 10% of lil nas' following (which he got). Same goes with Iann dior, whom general rap audience treat as an industry plant. This is one of those cases where song's a hit but artist? not so much

So, are we gonna have a 24kGoldn One-Hit Wonderland episode in 2033?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Dec 5, 2020 22:10:26 GMT -5 @gabingston said:

Dec 5, 2020 20:46:19 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Even though i like his music since Valentino days i don't think he's reaching stardom. Just look at his social media accounts, #1 song in the country didn't propell him to even 10% of lil nas' following (which he got). Same goes with Iann dior, whom general rap audience treat as an industry plant. This is one of those cases where song's a hit but artist? not so much

So, are we gonna have a 24kGoldn One-Hit Wonderland episode in 2033?

Shooting the gun a little early, aren't we? 

He's never gonna have another Mood but Lil Nas X will never have another Old Town Road. And he already had hits outside the U.S. He's going to have another hit, just meet likely not in the top 10 or Top 20

[jthentic]

On the other news, dick downed in dallas is still #2 while shawn x camila is squirming around #20 on iTunes (~20ish on YT trending while YFN lucci is #8 after 2 days). Curr. Shawn's #2 on iTunes album chart below Carrie underwood's 2 month old album & #5 on applem album chart (falling) while YFN lucci is #2 strong 😅. 2020 is bonkers.
Btw who dafu* is YFN lucci? 😂😂

[SPRΞΞ]

personally, i dont find any sex appeal in Shawn Mendes, and sometimes when the music gets stale, you can at least fall back on your looks. Maybe this is his Witness era.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Shawn and Camila should just do a Netflix rom com together if their music is floundering this bad. Do a Weet Side Short musical, only this time the girl can't sing 

[Raccoon]

wonder is not bad. There are some really good tracks. I don’t think he should go the JT route tho. He’s always been suited for more of a John Mayer like trajectory, don’t we think?

[degen]

Megan’s “Body” is getting a lot of noise, any chances it will be in the top 10 this week after debuting at #12? I noticed its streams are steadily increasing too.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I think the problem with Shawn’s image is that he (or his team/label, let’s be real) seems to want him to be taken seriously as an artist but doesn’t seem willing or able to do anything that would get him there. And maybe he’s not at that point yet where he could get there. As nice a guy as he seems, his relationship with Camila might be the most exciting or interesting experience of his life and all he really has to pull inspiration from to write about - only, who cares? I get the impression he’s probably not particularly assertive as pop stars go so he might not be in control of a lot of what he does. I feel like if this era flops, his next one might be a rebrand of him that might be the predictable sexy/grown-up era everyone seems to want/expect. Only, I wonder if he could pull that off either.

[m450n]

Dec 5, 2020 11:06:30 GMT -5 firefox said:

I just hope that "Oh Santa" doesn't enter the Hot 100 because I'm satisfied that it peaked at #100, making it for me the most famous song that peaked at #100 on Hot 100. And not all artist have a song (or a Christmas song) peaking at #1 and #100.

Boss Btch peaked at #100 too and is fighting for most famous song that peaked at #100

[iHype.]

Dec 6, 2020 1:32:04 GMT -5 m450n said:

Dec 5, 2020 11:06:30 GMT -5 firefox said:

I just hope that "Oh Santa" doesn't enter the Hot 100 because I'm satisfied that it peaked at #100, making it for me the most famous song that peaked at #100 on Hot 100. And not all artist have a song (or a Christmas song) peaking at #1 and #100.

Boss Btch peaked at #100 too and is fighting for most famous song that peaked at #100

iCarly would like to have a word with y’all on the "most famous" #100 peaking song (and no, she has nothing to do with my now realized coincidental username choice lmao).

[TakeMe]

Dec 5, 2020 21:39:15 GMT -5 Henry Suárez said:

I heard Wonder last week and was just thinking how Shawn is getting so stale and insipid, it seems I wasn't the only one, looking at these posts.

and it must be worrying for his team to see how fast Pop dropped Wonder and even more alarming, Hot AC.

His music been stale n insipid since his inception, y’all just now catching on

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

No bundles is really making things interesting

A Listers that previously got to the summit comfortably are floundering

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Dec 6, 2020 1:21:40 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

I think the problem with Shawn’s image is that he (or his team/label, let’s be real) seems to want him to be taken seriously as an artist but doesn’t seem willing or able to do anything that would get him there. And maybe he’s not at that point yet where he could get there. As nice a guy as he seems, his relationship with Camila might be the most exciting or interesting experience of his life and all he really has to pull inspiration from to write about - only, who cares? I get the impression he’s probably not particularly assertive as pop stars go so he might not be in control of a lot of what he does. I feel like if this era flops, his next one might be a rebrand of him that might be the predictable sexy/grown-up era everyone seems to want/expect. Only, I wonder if he could pull that off either.

I think it also has to do with the fact it's been 6 years since he got big and there's been no discernable change in sound or even voice. Using Bieber as an example, whether you like the music or not - his sound and voice has changed over the past few years. And yeah, he still has no personality or charisma but at least up until Changes, individual albums sounded different from each other. And Mendes isn't in an Adele mold where his instrumentation, writing, or voice is so unique that it's awkward whenever he goes out of his comfort zone.

Who is Shawn Mendes beyond a hot guy who plays love songs on his guitar?

[iamsorare]

He needs to cut his hair..that's the biggest problem,the hair.the male katy perry

[sirskimask]

Dec 5, 2020 18:08:16 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

Dec 5, 2020 2:21:42 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

The 24k/DaBaby track is #213 on AM according to Kworb so obviously no one is interested in 24k in larger scale.

Lol you're not gonna mention it got to #213 after vaulting 299 spots?

I think 24KGoldn has a shot at mild pop stardom. "Mood" being massive provides a nice launchpad, and "Coco" has appeal at both pop & rhythmic and has a catchy hook + DaBaby, whose had multiple pop radio top 10s this year. If it can keep climbing on streaming, I see potential

Just wanted to add that City of Angels should've been a hit 

[iggyamo]

I just saw that Marvin Divide song pop off on Spotify, is this a bought streams thing, because it seems like both something that came from nowhere and something that would only be popular in Canada. It’s just a Loud Luxury rip-off except with some kind of creepy sub text.

[firefox]

SORRY FOR THIS RANDOM POST, I JUST NEEDED TO ASK THIS:

Does anyone know a site where I can track the total streams of an artist on Spotify? Chartmasters.org Spotify streaming tool was the one I used before but now it has subscriptions, and I need to pay to see it. It's like nothing is free nowadays. Thank you.

[iamsorare]

Dec 6, 2020 5:54:52 GMT -5 firefox said:

SORRY FOR THIS RANDOM POST, I JUST NEEDED TO ASK THIS:

Does anyone know a site where I can track the total streams of an artist on Spotify? Chartmasters.org Spotify streaming tool was the one I used before but now it has subscriptions, and I need to pay to see it. It's like nothing is free nowadays. Thank you.

you can still use chartsmasters.it has free option ..just make an account

[firefox]

Dec 6, 2020 6:00:37 GMT -5 iamsorare said:

Dec 6, 2020 5:54:52 GMT -5 firefox said:

SORRY FOR THIS RANDOM POST, I JUST NEEDED TO ASK THIS:

Does anyone know a site where I can track the total streams of an artist on Spotify? Chartmasters.org Spotify streaming tool was the one I used before but now it has subscriptions, and I need to pay to see it. It's like nothing is free nowadays. Thank you.

you can still use chartsmasters.it has free option ..just make an account

yeah but it only gives me 3 daily limited searches, I just remember using it unlimited 😅. btw thank you for replying.

[jenglisbe]

Dec 5, 2020 20:16:37 GMT -5 Choco said:

I think Shawn is struggling because the music is bad this time around.

The idea that there is only enough airplay for one white guy and Harry stole it this year is the same argument that people try to make about Cardi taking Nicki's place and imo it's just not true. There are other reasons.

Well and that argument holds more weight with black women than with white men. There is always room for more than one white man. (I'm not saying I like it, just reporting reality.)

[Choco]

Dec 6, 2020 6:42:26 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 5, 2020 20:16:37 GMT -5 Choco said:

I think Shawn is struggling because the music is bad this time around.

The idea that there is only enough airplay for one white guy and Harry stole it this year is the same argument that people try to make about Cardi taking Nicki's place and imo it's just not true. There are other reasons.

Well and that argument holds more weight with black women than with white men. There is always room for more than one white man. (I'm not saying I like it, just reporting reality.)

I mean racism and sexism are real but the notion that Cardi killed Nicki's solo hitmaker days has always been weird to me when in reality it was just a combination of Nicki being 10+ years into her career, abandoning the more pop friendly sound she used to have and her audience not quite moving from iTunes to streaming. Cardi and Megan have done well this year without hurting each other's success and you could even throw Doja although her big major hit is... a pop song so maybe put her in with an asterisk.

I don't think people suddenly see one black female rapper and decide that's enough.

Same with white pop guys. Ed, Lewis Capaldi, Bieber, Shawn all had top three hits last year, and Harry debuted a big #1 album on his way to two radio hits. Shawn just happens to have the least interesting narrative of them all, and he ditched the pop friendly upbeat sound for "In my Blood" stuff but forgetting everything that made that one work at all.

[Enigma.]

Nicki has constantly been among the top 10 most streamed female artists on Spotify - mostly thanks to features (especially Tusa but regardless.)

[Choco]

Dec 6, 2020 6:52:28 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Nicki has constantly been among the top 10 most streamed female artists on Spotify - mostly thanks to features (especially Tusa but regardless.)

Yeah I'm not saying she's struggling per se, just that she's nowhere near the level of domination she had (which is relatively normal for anyone who's been a successful hitmaker for so long). But I do remember people saying Cardi "killed" her solo career and it's always been a stupid narrative imo.

[Enigma.]

Yes, I agree

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Okay there's way too many Goddamn Christmas songs on the Spotify charts so I'm gonna make separate posts from now on

Literally every Christmas song - with the exception of the Brett Eldredge cover of 'Baby, It's Cold Outside' - increased by 50K+ today

Christmas Songs:
1(=) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 1,495,884 (+311,436)
2(=) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 1,419,135 (+315,858)
3(+1) Bobby Helm - Jingle Bell Rock 1,302,847 (+310,127)
4(+4) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 1,238,991 (+297,169)
5(=) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 1,204,438 (+248,604)
6(+1) Wham! - Last Christmas 1,198,422 (+253,082)
7(+5) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 1,103,407 (+229,717)
9(+11) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 936,236 (+204,170)
15(+16) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 796,693 (+188,159)
16(+19) José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 790,804 (+195,303)
17(+17) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 788,426 (+189,680)
18(+11) Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 778,072 (+154,790)
19(+13) Burl Ives - A Holly Holly Christmas 771,726 (+168,405)
22(+16) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 733,275 (+152,257)
24(+16) Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas 718,684 (+153,431)
25(+16) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song 718,412 (+159,569)
33(+17) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 642,986 (+149,211)
36(+14) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas 623,966 (+136,318)
42(+21) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 547,677 (+108,665)
44(+29) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 521,730 (+112,654)
49(+33) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 508,637 (+119,642)
53(+31) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 496,263 (+119,642)
54(+29) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 490,646 (+102,878)
55(+33) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 489,332 (+109,410)
63(+33) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 446,080 (+89,814)
76(+67) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 396,437 (+92,198)
77(+17) Brett Eldredge - Baby, It's Cold Outside 396,009 (+36,663)
78(+76) Mykola Dmytrovych Leontovych, John Williams - Carol of the Bells 393,095 (+96,954)
83(+61) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 378,989 (+74,778)
85(+68) Nat King Cole - Joy to the World 375,673 (+79,153)
86(+86) Eartha Kitt, Henri Rene & His Orchestra - Santa Baby 374,234 (+93,081)
87(+78) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 374,217 (+87,355)
90(+59) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 370,294 (+72,227)
91(+93) Bing Crosby - Winter Wonderland 366,167 (+96,172)
94(+83) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 362,126 (+87,641)
100(+82) Donny Hathaway - This Christmas 345,260 (+73,354)

105(re-entry) Dean Martin - Silver Bells 339,039
109(re-entry) Judy Garland - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 333,029
112(+83) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe and Holly 326,589 (+66,713)
126(re-entry) The Beach Boys, Mark Linett, Sweet, Larry Walsh - Little Saint Nick 309,020
130(re-entry) Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas 306,556
131(re-entry) Louis Armstrong, The Commanders - Cool Yule 305,197
133(re-entry) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus 304,221
136(re-entry) Jonas Brothers - Like It's Christmas 301,452
147(debut) Idina Menzel - Baby It's Cold Outside 291,206
149(re-entry) *NSYNC - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays 290,887
155(re-entry) Carpenters - Sleigh Ride 284,907
156(re-entry) Burl Ives - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 284,870
161(debut) Ariana Grande, Liz Gillies - Santa Baby 281,212
165(re-entry) Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas is Here 276,300
172(debut) Stevie Wonder - What Christmas Means To Me 272,887
173(debut) Pentatonix - Amazing Grace (My Chains Are Gone) 272,537
175(re-entry) Thurl Ravenscroft - You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch 271,803
179(debut) Kylie Mingoque - Santa Baby 268,910
180(debut) Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters - Mele Kalikimaka 268,373
189(debut) Sam Smith - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 263,823
193(re-entry) Taylor Swift - Christmas Tree Farm 261,865
197(debut) Gwen Stefani - You Make It Feel Like Christmas 258,367

[Verisimilitude]

OMG Kylie Minogue charting on US Spotify bat1990

I love this time of the year so much, especially for charts

[daysintheeast]

the difference between AM and Spotify rn is actually crazy

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 12/05/2020

1(=) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 1,495,884 (+311,436)
2(=) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 1,419,135 (+315,858)
3(+1) Bobby Helm - Jingle Bell Rock 1,302,847 (+310,127)
4(+4) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 1,238,991 (+297,169)
5(=) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 1,204,438 (+248,604)
6(+1) Wham! - Last Christmas 1,198,422 (+253,082)
7(+5) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 1,103,407 (+229,717)
8(-5) Bad Bunny, Jhay Cortez - DÁKITI 1,074,858 (-16,495)
9(+11) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 936,236 (+204,170)
10(=) Internet Money - Lemonade 931,169 (+12,715)

Top 10 Without the Christmas Songs:

1 Bad Bunny, Jhay Cortez - DÁKITI 1,074,858
2 Internet Money - Lemonade 931,169
3 Ariana Grande - positions 909,656
4 24kGoldn - Mood 908,001
5 Ariana Grande - 34+35 883,173
6 Megan Thee Stallion - Body 834,406
7 Cardi B - WAP 767,043
8 Marvin Divine - Barely Legal 737,521
9 Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 725,333
10 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 712,285

Other:
11(-5) Ariana Grande - positions 909,656 (-38,198)
12(-1) 24kGoldn - Mood 908,001 (+5,324)
13(-4) Ariana Grande - 34+35 883,173 (-57,694)
14(-1) Megan Thee Stallion - Body 834,406 (-12,609)
21(debut) Marvin Divine - Barely Legal 2021 737,521
23(-6) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 725,333 (-42,804)
26(-10) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 712,285 (-69,623)
28(-5) CJ - Whoopty 697,950 (+11,213)
29(-7) Lil Nas X - HOLIDAY 692,234 (+810)
30(-6) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 686,582 (+2,234)
31(-16) Shawn Mendes - Monster 674,605 (-119,611)
32(-18) Juice WRLD - Real Sh*t 670,449 (-127,586)
34(-7) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 629,877 (+1,562)
37(-16) Lil Baby - Errbody 616,610 (-118,991)
39(-3) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 581,194 (-6,063)
41(-4) Bad Bunny, ROSALÍA - LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE 556,119 (-29,819)
45(-20) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 518,530 (-159,511)
46(-1) Jack Harlow - Tyler Herro 517,838 (+1,155)
47(-5) Ariana Grande - pov 517,428 (-40,337)
57(-1) Dua Lipa - Levitating 466,966 (+11,681)
59(-7) Miley Cyrus - Prisoner 461,993 (-16,410)
60(-9) The Kid LAROI - SO DONE 460,163 (-26,736)
64(-6) DaBaby - PRACTICE 444,940 (-6,479)
65(-4) Lil Baby - On Me 434,126 (-9,487)
67(-8) Bad Bunny - TE MUDASTE 427,245 (-23,135)
70(-8) Justin Bieber - Lonely 416,690 (-25,834)
71(-11) Tate McRae - you broke me first 411,234 (-34,316)
72(-3) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 403,755 (-14,551)
73(-2) Justin Bieber - Holy 403,343 (-11,960)
74(+4) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 400,562 (+1,272)
82(-3) Luke Combs - Forever After All 390,171 (-8,411)
84(-58) Shawn Mendes - Teach Me How to Love 378,678 (-274,193)
92(-11) Clairo - Sofia 364,764 (-32,775)
96(-21) Trey Lewis - Dicked Down in Dallas 357,347 (-45,391)
97(-7) DDG - Moonwalking in Calabasas 352,748 (-17,338)
99(+3) King Von - Took Her to the O 347,909 (+1,991)

106(+1) Pop Smoke - Hello 338,347 (+2,015)
111(-13) Ashnikko - Daisy 327,362 (-21,419)
145(-9) CORPSE, Savage Ga$p - E-GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE! 291,409 (-17,503)
153(+23) KAROL G - BICHOTA 286,205 (+11,040)
158(+13) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 282,650 (+860)