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Post by kingvavis on Dec 11, 2020 20:07:27 GMT -5
Since this is the last dated week of 2020 for the Billboard charts, what are the biggest take aways from the music, the trends, the charts, and the artists this year?
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Post by π Eloquent β’ on Dec 11, 2020 20:27:53 GMT -5
I think "Rockin" is more of a threat to Mariah than "Willow" (which I don't see getting anywhere near #1). "Rockin" is ahead of Mariah on iTunes and is neck and neck on Spotify (like an 18k difference yesterday). Hopefully Mariah gets a few weeks at #1 this year regardless!
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Post by m450n on Dec 11, 2020 21:09:09 GMT -5
I think "Rockin" is more of a threat to Mariah than "Willow" (which I don't see getting anywhere near #1). "Rockin" is ahead of Mariah on iTunes and is neck and neck on Spotify (like an 18k difference yesterday). Hopefully Mariah gets a few weeks at #1 this year regardless! willow is #1 on itunes, #2 on apple music, and we havent even seen spotify #'s or radio #'s... ya'll are making bold claims.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 11, 2020 21:30:51 GMT -5
I think "Rockin" is more of a threat to Mariah than "Willow" (which I don't see getting anywhere near #1). "Rockin" is ahead of Mariah on iTunes and is neck and neck on Spotify (like an 18k difference yesterday). Hopefully Mariah gets a few weeks at #1 this year regardless! willow is #1 on itunes, #2 on apple music, and we havent even seen spotify #'s or radio #'s... ya'll are making bold claims. Its lead on iTunes isn't as big as a new Swift song usually would be. We will have to see how it holds. It needs a large total to overcome the airplay gap. We will also see how it competes with holiday songs in streaming over the weekend.
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 11, 2020 23:33:42 GMT -5
willow is #1 on itunes, #2 on apple music, and we havent even seen spotify #'s or radio #'s... ya'll are making bold claims. Its lead on iTunes isn't as big as a new Swift song usually would be. Cardigan was overshadowed by the blake/gwen duet on itunes so I fail to see the argument.
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Post by jthentic on Dec 11, 2020 23:41:32 GMT -5
Taylor is bringing back the album culture.
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Post by jthentic on Dec 11, 2020 23:45:38 GMT -5
I still don't get American obsession with Christmas songs. Why do they start listening it ~2 months before Christmas π
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Post by jodakyellow on Dec 12, 2020 0:26:53 GMT -5
I still don't get American obsession with Christmas songs. Why do they start listening it ~2 months before Christmas π
Because our society is collapsing and we need distraction
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Dec 12, 2020 1:09:45 GMT -5
Taylor is bringing back the album culture. This is the most interesting thing about folklore. The album failed to spawn a smash like past Swift records, but sold & continues to sell incredibly well. People that wouldnβt typically listen to Swift did listen to folklore. Itβs impressive. Side note, βbettyβ is Swiftβs longest charting hit on both the country genre chart & radio chart as a lead artist since 2013βs βRedβ, which I think is interesting.
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Post by Henry SuΓ‘rez on Dec 12, 2020 1:19:06 GMT -5
I still don't get American obsession with Christmas songs. Why do they start listening it ~2 months before Christmas π
I'm sure this is not something that happens only in the US, I know that in Colombia, Christmas tunes starts to play on the radio in September and in many Latin American countries, Spain, Philippines... Don't know about most european countries (UK, France, Germany, etc) but I guess they also play Christmas songs before December even begins.
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 12, 2020 2:52:29 GMT -5
Yeah the love for Christmas music is hardly an American concept. We might be a bit more into it than others, but it's not like Christmas music doesn't do exceptionally well in other Christian-popular countries.
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Post by hughster1 on Dec 12, 2020 5:01:38 GMT -5
And judging from the UK charts, they start listening to Christmas music even earlier, and consume it in even greater quantities, than do Americans.
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Post by kimberly on Dec 12, 2020 5:04:36 GMT -5
Along with I Hope being pulled from pop radio, I heard Dynamite and Be Like That also got pulled. what does "pulled from radio" even mean?? those songs are all just falling?
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Post by shayonce on Dec 12, 2020 5:20:20 GMT -5
dynamite pulled? "xenophobic US radio is banning BTS" tweet incoming..
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 12, 2020 5:20:51 GMT -5
Taylor is bringing back the album culture. Huh?
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Post by shayonce on Dec 12, 2020 5:28:57 GMT -5
Top 100 USA Apple Music -12/11 Friday- 1. Kid Cudi - Tequila Shots 2. Kid Cudi - She Knows This 3. Taylor Swift - willow 4. Kid Cudi - Another Day 5. Kid Cudi, Skepta & Pop Smoke - Show Out 6. Taylor Swift - champagne problems 7. Kid Cudi - Beautiful Trip 8. Kid Cudi - Dive 9. Taylor Swift - 'tis the damn season 10. Taylor Swift - gold rush
11. Kid Cudi - Mr. Solo Dolo III 12. Taylor Swift - no body, no crime (feat. HAIM) 13. Kid Cudi - Damaged 14. Kid Cudi - Heaven on Earth 15. Taylor Swift - tolerate it 16. Lil Baby - On Me 17. Taylor Swift - happiness 18. Kid Cudi - Sad People 19. Taylor Swift - dorothea 20. Taylor Swift - coney island (feat. The National)
21. Jack Harlow - Way Out (feat. Big Sean) 22. Taylor Swift - ivy 23. Kid Cudi - Elsie's Baby Boy (flashback) 24. Kid Cudi - Sept. 16 25. Bad Bunny & Jhay Cortez - DΓKITI 26. Megan Thee Stallion - Body 27. Kid Cudi - The Void 28. Kid Cudi & Trippie Redd - Rockstar Knights 29. Taylor Swift - evermore (feat. Bon Iver) 30. Taylor Swift - long story short
31. Taylor Swift - cowboy like me 34. Taylor Swift - marjorie 35. Kid Cudi - Lovin' Me (feat. Phoebe Bridgers) 36. Kid Cudi - The Pale Moonlight 37. Taylor Swift - closure 38. Kid Cudi - 4 da Kidz 41. Jack Harlow - Face of My City (feat. Lil Baby) 42. Kid Cudi - Lord I Know 43. Jack Harlow - Tyler Herro 50. Jack Harlow - Already Best Friends (feat. Chris Brown) 54. Jack Harlow - 21C / Delta 56. Jack Harlow - Rendezvous 64. Jack Harlow - Whats Poppin (Remix) [feat. DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne] [Bonus Track] 65. Jack Harlow - Funny Seeing You Here 76. Jack Harlow - Keep It Light 80. Jack Harlow - Same Guy (feat. Adam Levine) 82. Jack Harlow - Creme 83. Jack Harlow - Route 66 (feat. EST Gee) 88. Jack Harlow - Whats Poppin 93. Jack Harlow - Luv Is Dro (feat. Static Major & Bryson Tiller)
+ 46. Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You 77. Michael BublΓ© - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas
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Post by Normi on Dec 12, 2020 5:43:11 GMT -5
I follow other countries' charts as well and the US is way earlier with Christmas music than others
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Post by After Minutes on Dec 12, 2020 6:06:13 GMT -5
Whole Lotta Red is out
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 12, 2020 6:06:59 GMT -5
UK is the earliest though... The Spotify streams for AIWFCIY and LC are gigantic in comparison.
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Post by kacpi on Dec 12, 2020 7:01:59 GMT -5
willow debuts at #1 on US Spotify with 3.645 million streams. All tracks from evermore debut inside top 18. Cudi's highest-charting song there is "Tequila Shots" - #8 with 2.311 million streams. All songs from MOTM3: The Chosen are in the top 50.
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Post by After Minutes on Dec 12, 2020 7:04:28 GMT -5
I could absolutely see Blinding Lights falling off the charts this week if MOTM and Evermore have enough stability
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Post by firefox on Dec 12, 2020 7:15:28 GMT -5
folklore vs evermore
the 1 4,175,284 cardigan 3,937,822 exile (feat. Bon Iver) 3,829,002 willow 3,645,354 the last great american dynasty 3,348,161 champagne problems 3,247,516 my tears ricochet 3,202,928 gold rush 2,978,418 tis the damn season 2,920,096 no body, no crime (feat. HAIM) 2,864,652 august 2,840,040 mirrorball 2,831,226 tolerate it 2,702,678 seven 2,682,670 this is me trying 2,545,609 happiness 2,543,549 invisible string 2,444,041 illicit affairs 2,428,331 mad woman 2,242,921 coney island (feat. The National) 2,238,456 dorothea 2,228,502 betty 2,208,354 ivy 2,189,996 evermore (feat. Bon Iver) 2,090,498 epiphany 2,062,968 long story short 2,027,828 cowboy like me 1,989,927 peace 1,960,966 marjorie 1,882,067 closure 1,791,886 hoax 1,748,780
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 12, 2020 7:28:00 GMT -5
Great numbers for both Taylor and Kid Cudi! The "Tha Carter effect" is real for the latter
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 12, 2020 7:40:06 GMT -5
US Spotify - 12/10/2020
Taylor Swift - evermore 1(debut) - willow 3,645,354 2(debut) - champagne problems 3,247,516 3(debut) - gold rush 2,978,418 4(debut) - 'tis the damn season 2,920,096 5(debut) - no body, no count 2,864,652 6(debut) - tolerate it 2,702,678 7(debut) - happiness 2,543,549 9(debut) - coney island 2,238,456 10(debut) - dorothea 2,228,502 11(debut) - ivy 2,189,996 12(debut) - evermore 2,090,498 13(debut) - long story short 2,027,828 14(debut) - cowboy like me 1,989,927 16(debut) - marjorie 1,882,067 18(debut) - closure 1,791,886 Total Streams: 37,341,423
Kid Cudi - Man on the Moon III: The Chosen 8(debut) - Tequila Shots 2,311,348 15(debut) - She Knows This 1,978,881 17(debut) - Another Day 1,867,656 19(debut) - Show Out 1,740,521 21(debut) - Dive 1,598,355 22(debut) - Mr. Solo Dolo III 1,512,093 23(debut) - Damaged 1,469,874 24(debut) - Heaven on Earth 1,460,614 25(debut) - Sad People 1,334,868 28(debut) - Elsie's Baby Boy 1,158,218 29(debut) - The Void 1,134,938 30(debut) - Sept. 16 1,118,652 31(debut) - Lovin' Me 1,099,383 32(debut) - Rockstar Knights 1,074,905 35(debut) - The Pale Moonlight 990,624 41(debut) - 4 Da Kidz 916,103 43(debut) - Lord I Know 874,702 Total Streams (including Beautiful Trip with has 1,707,427): 25,349,162
Other: 36(+20) Jack Harlow - Way Out 964,473 (+523,206) 39(-20) Juice WRLD - Reminds Me of You 961,978 (+306,795) 50(-16) Jack Harlow - Tyler Herro 735,396 (+188,350) 58(debut) Jack Harlow - Face of My City 668,052 67(-17) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN Remix 587,935 (+128,828)
102(+44) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN 407,273 (+127,989) 130(debut) Jack Harlow - Already Best Friends
Biggest Gains (50K+): Way Out, Reminds Me Of You, Tyler Herro, WHATS POPPIN Remix, WHATS POPPIN
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Dec 12, 2020 7:43:23 GMT -5
I could absolutely see Blinding Lights falling off the charts this week if MOTM and Evermore have enough stability Blinding is predicted to be around #10 this week, I really don't think 16 songs by Taylor and Kid Cudi will be above it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 12, 2020 7:47:50 GMT -5
Taylor is bringing back the album culture. This is the most interesting thing about folklore. The album failed to spawn a smash like past Swift records, but sold & continues to sell incredibly well. People that wouldnβt typically listen to Swift did listen to folklore. Itβs impressive. Isn't its success a bit misleading because of all the gimmicks/tricks to lift sales? Where did it fall among most streamed albums of 2020?
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Post by firefox on Dec 12, 2020 7:48:29 GMT -5
I could absolutely see Blinding Lights falling off the charts this week if MOTM and Evermore have enough stability Blinding is predicted to be around #10 this week, I really don't think 16 songs by Taylor and Kid Cudi will be above it. I think that prediction for BL is for 12/19 chart. A lot of Taylor, Kid Cudi, Christmas songs could push it out.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Dec 12, 2020 7:53:39 GMT -5
Blinding is predicted to be around #10 this week, I really don't think 16 songs by Taylor and Kid Cudi will be above it. I think that prediction for BL is for 12/19 chart. A lot of Taylor, Kid Cudi, Christmas songs could push it out.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 12, 2020 7:58:02 GMT -5
Blinding is predicted to be around #10 this week, I really don't think 16 songs by Taylor and Kid Cudi will be above it. I think that prediction for BL is for 12/19 chart. A lot of Taylor, Kid Cudi, Christmas songs could push it out. It looks like only a few will top it.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 12, 2020 8:02:44 GMT -5
^If anything, holiday songs could pose a bigger threat to it. Although it still would expect BL to survive.
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