Billboard Hot 100: 12/26/2020

[joesuda]

Dec 12, 2020 7:58:02 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 12, 2020 7:48:29 GMT -5 firefox said:

I think that prediction for BL is for 12/19 chart. A lot of Taylor, Kid Cudi, Christmas songs could push it out.

It looks like only a few will top it.

We have to also account for the fact that BL is declining in Radio. I do not know the exact point breakdown, but it will come down to BLs radio performance. 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Dec 12, 2020 7:47:50 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 12, 2020 1:09:45 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

This is the most interesting thing about folklore. The album failed to spawn a smash like past Swift records, but sold & continues to sell incredibly well. People that wouldn’t typically listen to Swift did listen to folklore. It’s impressive.

Isn't its success a bit misleading because of all the gimmicks/tricks to lift sales? Where did it fall among most streamed albums of 2020?

That's only for sales. For audio streaming, it does have over a billion song US audio streams (one of thirty albums) according to HITS, which is something that, for example, Future Nostalgia, to an album released before it have yet to accomplish this year. It actually has slightly more streams than Morgan Whallen's If I Know Me.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify Christmas Songs Update - 12/11/20:

26(-24) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 1,169,960 (+76,742)
27(-26) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 1,163,182 (+51,271)
33(-30) Bobby Helm - Jingle Bell Rock 1,163,182 (+171,873)
34(-30) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 1,016,832 (+74,262)
37(-31) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 964,095 (+55,640)
38(-31) Wham! - Last Christmas 963,556 (+67,982)
44(-32) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 872,317 (+51,905)
49(-34) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 752,772 (+51,297)
53(-33) Burl Ives - A Holly Holly Christmas 689,303 (+34,439)
56(-30) Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 672,741 (+73,608)
59(-36) José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 646,307 (+41,393)
61(-37) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song 636,958 (+33,400)
62(-33) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 626,144 (+45,366)
63(-33) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 617,321 (+41,130)
65(-34) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 597,972 (+31,530)
69(-37) Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas 571,726 (+21,072)
72(-33) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 526,385 (+25,467)
74(-32) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas 514,220 (+26,576)
78(-39) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 486,866 (+26,238)
84(-26) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 455,773 (+23,413)
86(-23) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 444,228 (+22,010)
89(-23) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 438,539 (+23,442)
91(-36) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 437,827 (+21,846)
96(-28) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 420,737 (+19,427)

104(-27) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 391,783 (+13,273)
124(-28) Mykola Dmytrovych Leontovych, John Williams - Carol of the Bells 350,296 (+19,429)
125(-26) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 345,653 (+20,925)
129(-31) Nat King Cole - Joy to the World 340,267 (+15,422)
132(-29) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 330,492 (+10,911)
137(-26) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 324,885 (+17,712)
139(-26) Eartha Kitt, Henri Rene & His Orchestra - Santa Baby 324,742 (+19,375)
140(-21) Bing Crosby - Winter Wonderland 324,518 (+24,324)
142(-32) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 323,663 (+13,288)
150(-32) Donny Hathaway - This Christmas 310,109 (+9,844)
159(-19) Judy Garland - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 299,852 (+18,085)
156(-22) Brett Eldredge - Baby, It's Cold Outside 300,749 (+13,196)
161(-23) Dean Martin - Silver Bells 298,197 (+15,543)
162(-37) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 298,081 (+991)
164(-27) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe and Holly 296,667 (+12,120)
177(-22) The Beach Boys, Mark Linett, Sweet, Larry Walsh - Little Saint Nick 285,193 (+13,257)
200(-18) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus 265,304 (+12,352)

Biggest Gains (50K+): Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! [Frank Sinatra], Underneath the Tree, It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas [Michael Bublé], Last Christmas, Santa Tell Me, It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year, Jingle Bell Rock, All I Want for Christmas is You, Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree

[spiritboy]

Madonna mentioned Kid Cudi's album in her latest tweet, it means nothing but might make a few curious fans like me to check his album out. Never listened to any of his albums though.

[firefox]

Dec 12, 2020 8:13:24 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Spotify Christmas Songs Update - 12/11/20:

26(-24) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 1,169,960 (+76,742)
27(-26) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 1,163,182 (+51,271)

wow we almost had Brenda Lee at number one on Spotify. I think she will be the oldest artist to top US Spotify if ever. 

[amid]

Holy shit Cudi had a phenomenal debut on Spotify and appears to be doing amazing on Apple Music too. Why did he have to release on the same as Taylor :(

[Groovy]

willow debut on the radio today.

[nak]

TOTC said Willow mah be #2. So wtf is #1. AIWFCIY? Or Mood

[Groovy]

This week is gonna be one of the most hectic weeks on the charts, Christmas and an album all in one week, most of the songs are gonna drop off or take a major step back.

[Fears in the Fire]

Dec 12, 2020 9:37:18 GMT -5 nak said:

TOTC said Willow mah be #2. So wtf is #1. AIWFCIY? Or Mood

Gotta be AIWFCIY

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Dec 12, 2020 9:37:18 GMT -5 nak said:

TOTC said Willow mah be #2. So wtf is #1. AIWFCIY? Or Mood

based on EARLY TOTC prediction, AIWFCIY is #1 with 320 points, and willow at #2 with 300. I'm 100% sure Taylor's team will do something about it, since it's really close.

[fridayteenage]

based on kworb biggest peaking days on us spotify for female led songs
Ari/thank you next 4.2
Tay/the 1 4.2
Ari/7 rings 4.0 (almost)
Tay/cardigan 3.9
Tay/exile 3.8
Tay/look what you made me do 3.8
Tay/willow 3.6
Tay/me 3.6
Ari/break up 3.5
Tay/last great american dynasty 3.3
Tay/champagne problems 3.2
Tay/my tears ricochet 3.2
Cardi/wap 3.0

[areyoureadytojump]

Dec 12, 2020 5:04:36 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Dec 11, 2020 10:20:14 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Along with I Hope being pulled from pop radio, I heard Dynamite and Be Like That also got pulled.

what does "pulled from radio" even mean?? those songs are all just falling?

Yes, this started when GaGa fans said that Rain On Me was "pulled" from radio. The label just stopped promoting it.

Pulled, to me, means taken off the radio.

Rain On me charted for weeks and weeks after.

People need to start saying "Promotion has ended."

[owenlovesmusic]

Cudi doing numbers! Fuck you Taylor Swift!

[fridayteenage]

Guess Chromatica was pulled after the first month.

[jenglisbe]

Dec 12, 2020 10:14:18 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Dec 12, 2020 5:04:36 GMT -5 kimberly said:

what does "pulled from radio" even mean?? those songs are all just falling?

Yes, this started when GaGa fans said that Rain On Me was "pulled" from radio. The label just stopped promoting it.

Pulled, to me, means taken off the radio.

Rain On me charted for weeks and weeks after.

People need to start saying "Promotion has ended."

Yeah that Kesha song being pulled after that school shooting is more appropriate for "pulled from radio."

[areyoureadytojump]

^Yes! Thanks.

And maybe horrible first singles that chart for 2-3 weeks and then the label moves onto the better 2nd single.

Bieber's Yummy.

And that one horrible Ariana Grade 1st single...

EDIT:

Focus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_(Ariana_Grande_song)

[HolidayGuy]

friday- and then pushed around VMAs time and with the release of the "911 video." .

[shaz196]

Cudi about to pull off one of the greatest comebacks ever, wow.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Dec 12, 2020 10:24:57 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

^Yes! Thanks.

And maybe horrible first singles that chart for 2-3 weeks and then the label moves onto the better 2nd single.

Bieber's Yummy.

And that one horrible Ariana Grade 1st single...

EDIT:

Focus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_(Ariana_Grande_song)

Flopcus actually didn't manage to make it on Dangerous Woman in the US, but did get added to deluxe edition in Japan.

[dovahduck]

Dec 12, 2020 11:18:12 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Cudi about to pull off one of the greatest comebacks ever, wow.

If only Taylor would've waited just one more week to release. Our man deserves to have a #1 album.

[fridayteenage]

Dec 12, 2020 11:55:36 GMT -5 dovahduck said:

Dec 12, 2020 11:18:12 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Cudi about to pull off one of the greatest comebacks ever, wow.

If only Taylor would've waited just one more week to release. Our man deserves to have a #1 album.

Well no one likes to celebrate their birthday a week late.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Dec 12, 2020 10:14:18 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Dec 12, 2020 5:04:36 GMT -5 kimberly said:

what does "pulled from radio" even mean?? those songs are all just falling?

Yes, this started when GaGa fans said that Rain On Me was "pulled" from radio. The label just stopped promoting it.

Pulled, to me, means taken off the radio.

Rain On me charted for weeks and weeks after.

People need to start saying "Promotion has ended."

I don’t remember Gaga stans saying that. My first memory was more recent than that. I forget the song though but it sounded pretty dramatic.

[thegreatdivine]

Dec 12, 2020 8:12:12 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Dec 12, 2020 7:47:50 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Isn't its success a bit misleading because of all the gimmicks/tricks to lift sales? Where did it fall among most streamed albums of 2020?

That's only for sales. For audio streaming, it does have over a billion song US audio streams (one of thirty albums) according to HITS, which is something that, for example, Future Nostalgia, to an album released before it have yet to accomplish this year. It actually has slightly more streams than Morgan Whallen's If I Know Me.

I wish HDD had a YTD chart for overall activity for artists and not just albums. It'd be nice to get some sort of preview of the most consumed acts in the US before Nielsen eventually publishes their year-end report.

[spoons]

Dec 11, 2020 13:58:09 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

the charts are such a joke right now

thank u for reciprocating my feelings. 2020 wasnt a bad year for pop music but i still hate it because i literally stopped checking the billboard charts this year. So irrelevant. I only get billboard news from here now.

[jenglisbe]

Dec 12, 2020 11:18:12 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Cudi about to pull off one of the greatest comebacks ever, wow.

I like Cudi but lol at this hyperbole.

[strongerq]

Dec 12, 2020 13:20:15 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I wish HDD had a YTD chart for overall activity for artists and not just albums. It'd be nice to get some sort of preview of the most consumed acts in the US before Nielsen eventually publishes their year-end report.

Well Rolling Stone gives the 500 most streamed artists every week (Audio Strams). ~350+ artists have charted each week of 2020. Here are top 100:

Note: There is a problem with credits. Example Juice WRLD apears under these credits "Juice WRLD", "benny blanco, Juice WRLD", "Juice WRLD & Trippie Redd" ...

I only count the ones where the artist appears first like #1 & #3. #2 is not counted. The problem appears when "Juice WRLD & Trippie Redd" is no longer top 500 so those streams are lost in thin air (they don't go to only "Juice WRLD").

But anyways this should give a rough picture. The only artists that will advance in the list are big pure sellers like Taylor Swift. Nielsen measures Video Streaming the same way as Billboard, so safe to say those numbers are so low they are almost irrelevant.

#	Artist	ODAS
1	Drake	5.1783 B
2	Juice Wrld	4.6804 B
3	Youngboy Never Broke Again	4.2529 B
4	Lil Uzi Vert	3.8546 B
5	Lil Baby	3.8114 B
6	Post Malone	3.7508 B
7	Taylor Swift	3.3403 B
8	Pop Smoke	3.324 B
9	DaBaby	3.1288 B
10	The Weeknd	3.1224 B
11	Eminem	2.6828 B
12	Future	2.6355 B
13	Rod Wave	2.5553 B
14	Roddy Ricch	2.4607 B
15	Billie Eilish	2.4197 B
16	Luke Combs	2.3875 B
17	Travis Scott	2.2013 B
18	XXXTentacion	2.0588 B
19	Ariana Grande	1.9809 B
20	A Boogie wit da Hoodie	1.9567 B
21	Trippie Redd	1.8867 B
22	Bad Bunny	1.8704 B
23	Justin Bieber	1.8326 B
24	Chris Brown	1.8175 B
25	Kanye West	1.7885 B
26	Polo G	1.741 B
27	Lil Wayne	1.7371 B
28	Mac Miller	1.6795 B
29	Gunna	1.6488 B
30	Morgan Wallen	1.6209 B
31	J. Cole	1.6203 B
32	The Beatles	1.5874 B
33	Megan Thee Stallion	1.5628 B
34	Jhené Aiko	1.5352 B
35	Harry Styles	1.5269 B
36	Moneybagg Yo	1.4886 B
37	Kevin Gates	1.4642 B
38	Ed Sheeran	1.4267 B
39	BTS	1.3911 B
40	Khalid	1.3808 B
41	Kendrick Lamar	1.3353 B
42	Young Thug	1.2789 B
43	Beyonce	1.2665 B
44	Lil Durk	1.2644 B
45	Halsey	1.258 B
46	YNW Melly	1.2532 B
47	21 Savage	1.2054 B
48	NF	1.2035 B
49	Maroon 5	1.1665 B
50	Kodak Black	1.1663 B
51	Rihanna	1.1658 B
52	Doja Cat	1.1398 B
53	Tory Lanez	1.1316 B
54	Luke Bryan	1.131 B
55	Imagine Dragons	1.0908 B
56	Dua Lipa	1.0812 B
57	NLE Choppa	1.0641 B
58	Lil Peep	1.0559 B
59	Lady Gaga	1.044 B
60	Florida Georgia Line	1.0242 B
61	Lewis Capaldi	1.0207 B
62	Frank Ocean	1.0109 B
63	Meek Mill	998.1 M
64	Fleetwood Mac	997.8 M
65	Thomas Rhett	985.8 M
66	Kane Brown	984.9 M
67	Queen	977.8 M
68	Cardi B	967.7 M
69	Machine Gun Kelly	853.8 M
70	One Direction	964.8 M
71	$uicideBoy$	952.2 M
72	Blake Shelton	924.5 M
73	Panic! at the Disco	910.6 M
74	Sam Hunt	906.5 M
75	Chris Stapleton	901.3 M
76	Bruno Mars	895.7 M
77	Migos	884.7 M
78	Lil Mosey	882.6 M
79	twenty one pilots	880.7 M
80	Dan + Shay	729.4 M
81	Kehlani	871.6 M
82	Sam Smith	852.8 M
83	Russ	868.1 M
84	Tyler, The Creator	865.5 M
85	Kenny Chesney	865 M
86	Logic	858.6 M
87	Summer Walker	826.6 M
88	Blackbear	851.5 M
89	Metro Boomin	302.1 M
90	Lil Tjay	846.5 M
91	DJ Khaled	841.9 M
92	Shawn Mendes	708.1 M
93	Nicki Minaj	822.6 M
94	Selena Gomez	778.9 M
95	H.E.R	802.2 M
96	2Pac	791.9 M
97	Don Toliver	787.5 M
98	George Strait	784.6 M
99	Joji	782.7 M
100	Eagles	768.6 M

[shaz196]

Dec 12, 2020 13:28:49 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 12, 2020 11:18:12 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Cudi about to pull off one of the greatest comebacks ever, wow.

I like Cudi but lol at this hyperbole.

Hyperbole how? His last solo albums peaked at #11 and #36 on the bb200 respectively. To go from that to potentially 175k sps and 200 million streams first week is one of the biggest comebacks in my book.

[gikem]

^I get the feeling it's because of those who were introduced (or reintroduced) to him thanks to THE SCOTTS and that Eminem collab, plus features from more significant names than in the past on this project.

[thegreatdivine]

strongerq omg, thanks! You just had that lying around?! Appreciate it.