Myth X
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Post by Myth X on Jan 5, 2021 9:17:43 GMT -5
Blinding Lights Radio #8 Sales #3 Streaming #22 Imagine how weak every song is in all 3 metrics for this to be #3. Its stats fit more the 8-12 region lol That's because there are still 10 christmas songs above Blinding Lights on the Streaming Songs chart and those Christmas songs have almost 0 airplay.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 5, 2021 9:20:02 GMT -5
I'm not even sure what post/points you are addressing. Addressing your post I thought the initial post was straightforwrad and non controversial maybe it isn't - so I will clarify I get it is a surprise to you and others that Christmas songs charted after Christmas. To clarify - not a surprise to me. I was not surprised, for one. I was a bit surprised how high those songs charted, and as I said in my reply (and @dey as well) that is because in the past holiday songs haven't held up this well in streams (and sales) post-Christmas Day. They also haven't remained on the chart when Christmas Day was the first day of the chart week. But we obviously discussed in this chart thread how holiday streams held up on December 26 in particular this year, and by then we all had an indication that holiday songs held on better than usual and would remain on the Hot 100.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 5, 2021 9:22:54 GMT -5
Last year, Christmas fell on a Wednesday, so there was no big days for the next hart week- hence, the drops right off the chart.
As for holiday tracks staying on the chart with Dec. 26 streaming alone- TOTC estimated 17 million or so of the total for "All I Want..." came on Christmas Day; that would leave 5.7m or so for the rest of the week.
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Post by Gary on Jan 5, 2021 9:25:37 GMT -5
Last year, Christmas fell on a Wednesday, so there was no big days for the next hart week- hence, the drops right off the chart. As for holiday tracks staying on the chart with Dec. 26 streaming alone- TOTC estimated 17 million or so of the total for "All I Want..." came on Christmas Day; that would leave 5.7m or so for the rest of the week. Billboard article from yesterday said 2/3 of the 22.7 million was on Christmas so that is about right 2/3 / 1/3 is probably the case for the other songs as well
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 5, 2021 9:32:30 GMT -5
I have nothing new to add. Then don't respond?? But how else can one show everyone they know all while making others look inferior?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 5, 2021 9:33:04 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 5, 2021 9:40:04 GMT -5
Some of us prefer actual facts instead of opinion. Gary is a robot and has never and will never share one of his own opinions. Or he's just Gary Trust undercover.
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Post by Gary on Jan 5, 2021 9:49:30 GMT -5
Makes sense that lots of Christmas songs are still charting. The chart week was December 25-January 1. If the Mariah song is any indication of the others 2/3 of the streaming activity took place on 12/25 but the other 1/3 took place after 12/25 The post that caused all the controversy that a few people (including a couple people on my block list) seem to relish in picking apart The first sentence is an opinion only The second sentence is a fact published in yesterday's article This seemed non-controversial when I posted it. I apologize to those offended.
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Post by Mayman on Jan 5, 2021 9:51:55 GMT -5
Makes sense that lots of Christmas songs are still charting. The chart week was December 25-January 1. If the Mariah song is any indication of the others 2/3 of the streaming activity took place on 12/25 but the other 1/3 took place after 12/25 The post that caused all the controversy that a few people (including a couple people on my block list) seem to relish in picking apart The first sentence is an opinion only The second sentence is a fact published in yesterday's article This seemed non-controversial when I posted it. I apologize to those offended. Lol I'm only on your block list because I blocked you first after you harassed and argued with me in my DMs! Glad to know you still click "Display post" for me ❤️
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Post by gikem on Jan 5, 2021 10:43:09 GMT -5
Gonna do something a little different here for Vacuum Week, specifically surrounding the returns and gains since there were so many of them.
Significant Dropouts All but 11 Christmas songs. The rest will be gone next week.
Losers #12 Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree (-10) #15 Jingle Bell Rock (-12) #17 A Holly Jolly Christmas (-13) #28 ITMWTOTY (-23) #29 Run Rudolph Run (-19) #39 Feliz Navidad (-33) #41 Let It Snow x3 (-33) #44 The Christmas Song (-33) #50 Underneath The Tree (-38) #89 Take Me Home For Christmas (-41)
Recurrent Returns #3 Blinding Lights #26 ROCKSTAR #30 Before You Go #31 Savage Love #33 More Than My Hometown #34 WHATS POPPIN #37 I Should Probably Go To Bed #40 Pretty Heart #42 Happy Anywhere #47 Watermelon Sugar #59 B.S. [I’m considering this a “recurrent” return as it technically went recurrent last week, but has been allowed to return despite being below #50]
Non-Recurrent Returns #73 Stay Down #76 Beers and Sunshine #79 Take You Dancing #80 What’s Your Country Song #81 Midnight Sky #83 Ain’t Always The Cowboy #87 Happy Does #95 Save Your Tears #96 SO DONE
Gains after Debut #32 Afterglow (+17) #62 Backdoor (+31) #74 Adderall (Corvette, Corvette) (+10)
Gains after Return #52 Champagne Night (+38) #58 Hole in the Bottle (+38) #63 7 Summers (+20) #69 You’re Mines Still (+16) #70 Hit Different (+20) #75 Golden (+20) #77 Back to the Streets (+10) #78 Damage (+14) #84 Put Your Records On (+16)
Continued Gains #51 You Broke Me First (+17) #55 Forever After All (+18) #56 My Ex’s Best Friend (+13) #57 Cry Baby (+10) #61 Good Time (+21) #67 Prisoner (+14)
Gains after Loss #5 Dynamite (+39) #9 I Hope (+21) #16 Kings & Queens (+25) #20 Dakiti (+14) #21 Body (+14) #23 Willow (+15)
Other Gains #2 Positions (+12) #4 Holy (+17) #6 Go Crazy (+18) #7 Laugh Now Cry Later (+18) #10 Levitating (+17) #11 Bang! (+26) #13 For the Night (+16) #14 Lemonade (+17) #18 Therefore I Am (+24) #19 34+35 (+31) #22 What You Know Bout Love (+29) #24 Better Together (+33) #25 Lonely (+28) #27 Whoopty (+25) #35 Starting Over (+31) #36 WAP (+19) #43 Holiday (+13) #45 Monster (+19) #46 Diamonds (+19) #48 On Me (+10) #49 Hawai (+14) #54 Big, Big Plans (+16) #60 Love You Like I Used To (+19)
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jan 5, 2021 11:17:14 GMT -5
gikem Great breakdown arrangement for this week - it looks really neat.
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Post by Groovy on Jan 5, 2021 11:20:24 GMT -5
I'm a little bit lost right, what is this argument about and why is Gary so disliked?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 5, 2021 11:20:49 GMT -5
Only two songs remained in the top 10 from the previous week's top 10 of the Hot 100. That should be a record low for sure.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 5, 2021 11:22:47 GMT -5
I'm a little bit lost right, what is this argument about and why is Gary so disliked? To your first question, there ultimately wasn't an argument. I don't think anyone was actually disagreeing.
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Post by gikem on Jan 5, 2021 11:22:50 GMT -5
gikem Great breakdown arrangement for this week - it looks really neat. Thanks! I was inspired somewhat by what Mark does on Billboard BREAKDOWN, especially after album bombs when everything jumps back up. He tends to use similar categorizations for the gains to what I used here.
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Post by Gary on Jan 5, 2021 11:31:12 GMT -5
I'm a little bit lost right, what is this argument about and why is Gary so disliked? I got confused too. That is why I reposted the "offending" post that started the uproar and apologized. Opinions are different for everyone, each has their own. As far as why I am so disliked, I am sure some have opinions and will weigh in anyway but I will vote for not cluttering up the thread with that stuff.
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Post by atg on Jan 5, 2021 11:47:52 GMT -5
Considering Starboy (the song) underperformed compared to the singles off BBTM, this is a nice payback Starboy underperformed?? It was a #1 hit in the US with great longevity. It's also his biggest WW hit (before BL). When it comes to all time performance on Youtube, Spotify, AM and Itunes, it's easily outperforming The Hills and CFMF. Starboy is definitely his 2nd biggest hit ‘compared to the singles off BBTM’, ofc it didn’t truly underperform but in terms of being one of abel’s greatest hits, it should’ve had way more longevity, along with the rest of the era as well
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Post by kalmanta on Jan 5, 2021 11:54:24 GMT -5
Starboy underperformed?? It was a #1 hit in the US with great longevity. It's also his biggest WW hit (before BL). When it comes to all time performance on Youtube, Spotify, AM and Itunes, it's easily outperforming The Hills and CFMF. Starboy is definitely his 2nd biggest hit ‘compared to the singles off BBTM’, ofc it didn’t truly underperform but in terms of being one of abel’s greatest hits, it should’ve had way more longevity, along with the rest of the era as well Starboy was a streaming monster, more than a radio hit. You can decide for yourself what is worth more in this day and age. I Feel It Coming had its fair share of success as well and is a fan favorite as far as I can tell. Compared to BBTM it was a pretty successful era of you ask me.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jan 5, 2021 12:18:40 GMT -5
‘compared to the singles off BBTM’, ofc it didn’t truly underperform but in terms of being one of abel’s greatest hits, it should’ve had way more longevity, along with the rest of the era as well Starboy was a streaming monster, more than a radio hit. Yeah, Starboy is still his most streamed song WW (Spotify + YouTube), with 3,5 billion streams.
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 5, 2021 12:43:00 GMT -5
Handsome Squidward:
Anyways, regarding what Abel's second biggest hit is, worldwide it's "Starboy" and in the US, it's "The Hills". This is according to data and certifications.
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Post by jodakyellow on Jan 5, 2021 13:26:16 GMT -5
Well for starters they charted this week due to streams. So we can look at the past two or so years and see That there was indeed a huge increase in Christmas song streams on Christmas Day and the day after in comparison. it was not a normal or progressive increase ss had been happening. it isn't about people play Christmas songs after Christmas Day. Of course they do. We all know that, we aren't stupid. It is about the dramatic increase THIS year for Christmas Day and the days after. I have nothing new to add. Evergreen post
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Post by firefox on Jan 5, 2021 16:55:59 GMT -5
I don't remember who it was, but someone is going to be annoyed that You Say has re-entered at #3 on the Hot Christian Songs chart. Another 40+ week run at #1 incoming. Oh my god that song returned???!!! (yeah that's me)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 17:03:32 GMT -5
Last year, Christmas fell on a Wednesday, so there was no big days for the next hart week- hence, the drops right off the chart. As for holiday tracks staying on the chart with Dec. 26 streaming alone- TOTC estimated 17 million or so of the total for "All I Want..." came on Christmas Day; that would leave 5.7m or so for the rest of the week. What I wanted to know is if those streams After Christmas Day were enough for it to chart.
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Post by Gary on Jan 5, 2021 17:43:17 GMT -5
Mariah Has Company: Holiday Streaming Data Shows Newer Classics Are Rising By Glenn Peoples 1/5/2021
Eight takeaways from a holiday season that saw new(er) songs by Kelly Clarkson, Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber climb in stature. Walk through a store in November or December, or listen to a holiday playlist, and you're likely to hear one of a handful of classics, like Andy Williams' "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year," The Ronettes' "Sleigh Ride" or Perry Como's "It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas." Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas is You" is practically a national anthem for those two months. And popular renditions of "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" and "Jingle Bell Rock" are instantly familiar even if the performers are not (Brenda Lee and Bobby Helms, respectively).
Nearly all Christmas standards possess two characteristics: if they're not time-tested hits released by major labels, they're new songs by one of a handful of artists with the marketing muscle to get attention. In any given year, a new Christmas "hit" is attained only by a few original songs by well-known artists. (Covering a standard such as, say, "Have a Holly, Jolly Christmas" might get your foot in the door, but know that Burl Ives' 1964 recording is the definitive version that's preferred by curators and programmers.) A new Christmas song must overcome listeners' desire for familiarity during a season of ritual and whether it has longevity will be battle-tested over multiple years.
Billboard performed a review on Christmas 2020's on-demand streaming data from the weeks ending Oct. 30 to Dec. 24 (weeks 44 to 51, from Nielsen Music/MRC Data), comparing them to the same weeks in 2019 to see which tracks made moves this holiday season. (Note: This is not an official Billboard chart).
Here are eight takeaways:
1. The top 10 was impenetrable. The top 10 had no turnover from 2019 to 2020, though there was some minor shuffling. While some entries were reordered, last year's top five tracks remained in the top five while the bottom five remained in the bottom five. Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas Is You" and Brenda Lee's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" were again ranked first and second, respectively. Bobby Helms' "Jingle Bell Rock" switched places -- from No. 4 in 2019 to No. 3 in 2020 -- with Andy Williams' "It's The Most Wonderful Time of the Year." Burl Ives' "Have a Holly Jolly Christmas" dropped from No. 3 to No. 5.
Top 10 Holiday Songs of 2020 (2019 Ranking) 1. Mariah Carey "All I Want for Christmas is You," 154.9 million (1) 2. Brenda Lee "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree," 135.4m (2) 3. Bobby Helms "Jingle Bell Rock," 126.5m (4) 4. Andy Williams "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year," 108.6m (5) 5. Burl Ives "Have a Holly Jolly Christmas," 89.3m (3) 6. Wham! "Last Christmas" 88.7m (6) 7. Jose Feliciano "Feliz Navidad," 86.6m (9) 8. Ronettes "Sleigh Ride" 86.1m (8) 9. Nat King Cole "The Christmas Song," 83.2m (7) 10. Perry Como "It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas," 79.2m (10)
2. A few new holiday songs rose in the ranks. Whereas a pop song can become a staple within weeks or months, a Christmas song requires a decade to become a standard. Only three songs released in the last decade have risen to such distinction — and they each ranked higher than a year ago. Kelly Clarkson's "Underneath the Tree," released in 2010, rose from No. 16 in 2019 to No. 11 in 2020 while Ariana Grande's 2014 track "Santa Tell Me" jumped from No. 30 to No. 13. Justin Bieber's 2011 "Mistletoe" rose from No. 40 to No. 29.
3. Broadcast television exposure helps -- if you can get it. First-year songs by Carrie Underwood from her album My Gift, released Sept. 25 -- "Favorite Time of the Year" at No. 38, "Hallelujah" featuring John Legend at No. 57 and "Silent Night" at No. 58 -- had help from Underwood's Christmas special on HBO Max, My Gift: A Christmas Special from Carrie Underwood. Dan + Shay's "Take Me Home for Christmas" reached No. 44 thanks in part to their performance on The Voice season finale Dec. 15. Kelly Clarkson's new track, "Under the Mistletoe" with Brett Eldridge, was No. 40 after performances on Clarkson's nationally syndicated talk show as well as The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon and The Voice.
4. Amazon had the muscle to turn two exclusive recordings into successes. Justin Bieber's new version of "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" ranked No. 34, the highest of any 2020 releases. (A younger Bieber covered the song in 2011.) Underwood's "Favorite Time of the Year," at No. 38, is also an Amazon Original (included on her new album, My Gift).
5. Even proven classics can make a big jump. In 2020, Paul McCartney’s omnipresent “Wonderful Christmas Time” jumped from No. 43 to No. 21 on a 67.9% increase in on-demand audio streams. Digital services can take some credit: at Spotify, McCartney was on 801 service-created playlists, according to Chartmetric -- a 147% gain from 324 playlists a year earlier. (Note that MRC Data figures cover only the U.S. while Chartmetric data is global.) As a point of reference, Mariah Carey peaked at 731 editorial playlists in 2020 compared to 372 in 2019 -- a 96.5% increase.
6. Early success is difficult to maintain. Jonas Brothers' peppy "Like It's Christmas" debuted as No. 14 on-demand streaming in 2019 but fell to No. 48 in 2020. Likewise, Katy Perry's 2018 track "Cozy Little Christmas" dropped from No. 29 to No. 51. To be sure, both tracks are among the few holiday tracks released in the last decade that ranked in the top 100 in 2020.
7. Indies are almost entirely shut out of the top rankings. Of the top 100 tracks of 2020, only three are owned by an indie label. Tori Kelly's cover of "Let It Snow," released on Schoolboy Records in October, at No. 99; Schoolboy has major label distribution — through Universal Music Group — but is independently owned by Scooter Braun's SB Projects. Two Vince Guaraldi tracks from A Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack were released in 1965 by Fantasy Records, now owned by Concord Music Group: "Linus and Lucy" at No. 49 and "O Tannenbaum" at No. 56.
8. New holiday music might be better off making money through purchases. While a holiday classic collects a growing amount of streaming royalties each year, new music can make money from one-time purchases and hope to have a life the following year. An avalanche of Christmas music is released each year either as a gift to fans or to capitalize on the category's popularity -- or both. Last year, Pentatonix, Meghan Trainor, Dolly Parton, Lady A, For King & Country, Matt Nathanson, The Bird and the Bee and Goo Goo Dolls were among the artists to release a full album of holiday music. If they're lucky, those albums will keep selling in the coming years.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 5, 2021 19:58:28 GMT -5
dey- likely not, though not sure off-hand what the numbers were like for No. 50 this past week. For instance, "Oh Santa!" ranked No. 76 a few weeks back, with 6.3 million streams, 10,000 sales and a similar airplay number (1 million and change) to what "All I Want..." scored this past week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 20:41:49 GMT -5
2025 is the next time Christmas Dsy falls on the last day of tracking, Course by then BB will,probably have changed rules and tracking dates a time or two!
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Post by Gary on Jan 5, 2021 20:47:57 GMT -5
Taylor Swift Tallies 44th Week Atop Artist 100 Chart By Xander Zellner 1/5/2021 Click to copy www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9506980/taylor-swift-tallies-44th-week-atop-artist-100-chart/She extends her record for the most weeks spent at No. 1. Taylor Swift furthers her record run atop the Billboard Artist 100 chart, as she tallies her 44th week at the top musical act in the U.S. (on the ranking dated Jan. 9). Swift reigns as her LPs Evermore and Folklore place at Nos. 2 and 6, respectively, on the Billboard 200. The former, which spent the previous two weeks at No. 1, earned 71,000 equivalent album units in the week ending Dec. 31, according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. The latter, which ruled for eight weeks beginning in August, earned 35,000 units in the tracking week. Evermore lead single “Willow” concurrently ranks at No. 23 on the Billboard Hot 100 and No. 4 on Hot Rock & Alternative Songs, after debuting at No. 1 on both charts three weeks ago. Plus, “No Body, No Crime,” featuring Haim, places at No. 30 on the Hot Country Songs chart, after launching at No. 2, and is now being promoted to country radio. “Willow,” being promoted to pop and adult formats, rises 16-14 on the Adult Pop Songs airplay chart and 27-24 on Pop Songs and debuts at No. 19 on Adult Contemporary (as the AC format segues back from holiday-heavy programming). Swift has tallied the most weeks at No. 1 on the Artist 100 dating to the chart’s 2014 launch. Drake ranks second with 31 weeks on top, followed by The Weeknd (20) and BTS and Ariana Grande (15 each). Among other Artist 100 chart moves, Playboi Carti re-enters at No. 2, reaching a new peak as he scores his first No. 1 album on the Billboard 200, as Whole Lotta Red opens with 100,000 units. Plus, Lil Durk lands his first week in the Artist 100’s top 10, zooming 70-8 as his The Voice vaults 46-3 in its second week on the Billboard 200 with 66,000 units in its first full tracking frame. The set debuted on the chart a week earlier with 23,000 units from just one day of activity, as it was released Dec. 24, the final day of the previous tracking week. The Artist 100 measures artist activity across key metrics of music consumption, blending album and track sales, radio airplay, streaming and social media fan interaction to provide a weekly multi-dimensional ranking of artist popularity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 21:24:13 GMT -5
How laughable is it that Blinding Lights returns at #3??? It goes from Not charting to the third biggest song on the chart. Thanks to billboard rules and allowing Christmas songs to chart.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 5, 2021 21:34:16 GMT -5
It's laughable that its number 3 at all lol
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Jan 5, 2021 21:35:50 GMT -5
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