Billboard Hot 100: 01/16/2021

[thegreatdivine]

R&B could have a solid 2021. Summer Walker, Ella Mai, H.E.R., SZA and Snoh Aalegra should be dropping albums this year. dvsn, Gallant and Giveon are also set to drop albums as well. I'm sure many more R&B singers will drop music too.

Genres usually fall behind when the best and biggest acts fail to drop new music in any given year. Rap and R&B should dominate 2021.

[fengyu]

hm spotifycharts seems especially slow today

[strongerq]

Jan 6, 2021 23:51:51 GMT -5 code said:

Its 2021 and I still don't know how certifications work

Well it is simple, for RIAA it is like this:

For albums:

1 pure sale = 10 track sales = 1,500 On-Demand Streams (Audio/Video)

For songs:

1 song sale = 150 On-Demand Streams (Audio/Video)

For RIAA unlike Billboard it doesn't matter weather the streams are paid or free. On-Demand means programmed streams from services like Pandora don't count.

Also only officially uploaded videos count for certification purposes. So no UGC (user generated content), only videos uploaded to the artist channel or the record label/movie company channel.

And ofc RIAA is U.S.A. only.

This is all you need to know for RIAA certifications.

Jan 7, 2021 0:07:24 GMT -5 @dey said:

Jan 7, 2021 0:03:55 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

I'm also not sure what platinum actually means now. It used to be "1 million copies sold."

And a ton easier to achieve than In the past.  

If you mean for singles, the award is literally called DIGITAL Single Award. So it is pointless to compare to previous decades. That award is meant for this era and the future.

Also Diamond Single =/= Diamond Album   

- I have seen comparisons like this... please don't.

But if you meant for albums it is easier to get, thanks to streaming. Well

The best selling album in the streaming era (2015-) is '25'. But that is mostly thanks to big pure sales, so i will ignore it (11.7M BB units). The second biggest album is 'Views' which sits at 6.7M Album Untis (using Billbaord/Nielsen formula, RIAA should be higher but not by much - because the albums isn't big on video streaming).

The third biggest one is 'beerbongs & bentleys' sitting at 6M.

Only 8 albums have crossed the 5M mark in the Streaming Era. (using Billboard/Nielsen units formula)

Should i point out how many albums sold 5M + each year in other decades, should i point out how many albums reached Diamond status within a year or two back in the days.

I don't think it will be neccessary. It is harder to get album certifications now, everyone knows it.

tl;dr: The Digital Single Award is meant for this era, so don't compare with previous eras. Regarding albums it is a lot harder to get higher certificaions.

[gikem]

Jan 7, 2021 8:04:19 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jan 7, 2021 7:16:46 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

If R&B is making a comeback, hopefully we also leave dirtbags like Tory Lanez and Chris Brown in the past

Tory Lanez hasn't scored any proper hits as a lead artist since 2015/2016 with Say It & Luv. I don't think anyone has to worry about seeing him high on the charts unless he's lucky and scores anothee feature placement on a song that does well like he did with the Whats Poppin Remix last year.

Chris Brown won't be going anywhere anytime soon, so you might as well get used to it. No Guidance (2019/2020), Go Crazy (2020/2021). He's due for another hit later this year.

I think the difference comes in their fanbases. Tory got popular as a Drake/Weeknd knockoff whose music wasn’t nearly as interesting as either of those artists, so it’s no surprise that his fanbase eventually moved on from his solo material in favor of the more interesting artists he was ripping off, especially after the Megan incident came to light. He still (somehow) has a die-hard fanbase, to be sure, but it’s not as big as it was before.

Meanwhile, Chris Brown has had a large and intensely loyal fanbase since his debut, so he was able to come out of the Rihanna incident without too much of a problem. Sure, his career has been largely focused on collaborations recently (even Back to Sleep, his last true solo hit in 2016, was only able to make the YE thanks to the Usher/Wale remix), but he has the organic following to justify his success. I used to get angry at his continued success throughout the 2010s, but nowadays I’m more exasperated.

[dovahduck]

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jan 7, 2021 3:19:23 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Not reg Hot100 but has anyone seen the latest BB Hot rock & alt chart? After Taylor's album bomb sent good older tracks to recurrent, it's filled with ass music. On top of that Taylor's tracks are hardly rock/alt 🙃

The revamp of the genre charts might be the biggest blunder they’ve ever made. I get what they were going for but it really does not work.

[GP]

Jan 7, 2021 7:16:46 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

If R&B is making a comeback, hopefully we also leave dirtbags like Tory Lanez and Chris Brown in the past

didn't Tory just release something to absolutely no buzz?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/01/07

1(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 134.92(+0.03)

2(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 124.38(+0.19)
3(=) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 114.92(-0.51)
4(=) Ariana Grande - positions 112.41(+0.16)
5(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 98.25(+0.27)
6(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 95.01(+0.34)
7(=) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 93.29(-1.00)
8(=) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 90.93(-0.88)
9(=) AJR - Bang! 79.80(-0.42)
10(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 73.07(+0.32)

12(+1) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 64.38(+0.66)

23(+1) Ariana Grande - 34+35 45.26(+1.26)

36(+1) Ed Sheeran - Afterglow 38.37(+0.52)

41(+1) Saweetie - Back to the Streets (feat. Jhené Aiko) 35.52(+0.56)

64(+1) Machine Gun Kelly & blackbear - my ex's best friend 25.57(+0.54)

98(+3) CJ - Whoopty 17.39(+0.59)

-(-) Justin Bieber - Anyone 15.32(+2.92)

-(-) Wisin - Mi Nina f/Myke Towers 14.96(+0.64)

-(-) M. Turizo/r. Alejandro/towers - La Nota 13.25(+0.40)

-(-) Black Eyed Peas & Shakira - GIRL LIKE ME 12.00(+0.57)

-(-) Ozuna - Despeinada f/Camilo 11.04(+1.06) +

-(-) Peach Tree Rascals - Mariposa 8.37(+0.45)

-(-) Cage The Elephant - Skin And Bones (Mix 2020) 6.73(+0.41)

[starlord]

 Hopefully tomorrow would be Big singles Friday!!!!! 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jan 7, 2021 9:12:38 GMT -5 GP said:

Jan 7, 2021 7:16:46 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

If R&B is making a comeback, hopefully we also leave dirtbags like Tory Lanez and Chris Brown in the past

didn't Tory just release something to absolutely no buzz?

He released DAYSTAR aka "I didn't do it": The Album

[TakeMe]

Is this due to that .69 discount? He must know he doesn’t have that power for a top debut anymore.

[Mayman]

Jan 7, 2021 10:26:09 GMT -5 TakeMe said:

Is this due to that .69 discount? He must know he doesn’t have that power for a top debut anymore.

I think that figure includes streams as well.

[gikem]

Jan 7, 2021 10:07:45 GMT -5 starlord said:

 Hopefully tomorrow would be Big singles Friday!!!!! 

Can't believe ZAYN is doing a DaBaby cover /j

[Groovy]

Do you guys think Zayn will make any sort of an impact on the charts.

[Choco]

Jan 7, 2021 10:26:09 GMT -5 TakeMe said:

Is this due to that .69 discount? He must know he doesn’t have that power for a top debut anymore.

Might be total SPS with streaming included, due to the use of the word "units". But who knows for sure.

[dovahduck]

Don't tell me right-wingers raided Spotify HQ too 😔

[dovahduck]

Nah but for real, I want my update. 😡

[Groovy]

Since the Spotify charts aren’t out, lets just assume that Good Days is still at 1 since it accumulated 2M streams.

[jthentic]

Jan 7, 2021 10:50:20 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Do you guys think Zayn will make any sort of an impact on the charts.

Probably @ the bottom, similar to his last single without a radio deal

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Jan 7, 2021 0:08:02 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jan 7, 2021 0:05:18 GMT -5 @dey said:

I think that a chart should be about that chart and only that chart.  

there's tons of changes need in the overall industry do we list them all on a weekly chart?  What's the connection? None.

right now the info on the hot 100 is a permanent record of that song for That week.  that info doesn't change. Position, writers, label etc.  An RIAA listed cert is probably outdated within weeks.  It therefore serves no purpose as anyone looking at an old chsrt is getting false outdated misleading info.

go ahead and change all the music problems in the world, just leave them off the charts.

I honestly don't know or particularly care about what you're rambling on about, but okay.

Don't clutter up the charts with stuff not about the chart.

[iHype.]

Sounds like an upcoming hit hopefully

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Jan 7, 2021 8:26:13 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Jan 7, 2021 0:07:24 GMT -5 @dey said:

And a ton easier to achieve than In the past.  

Should i point out how many albums sold 5M + each year in other decades, should i point out how many albums reached Diamond status within a year or two back in the days.

I don't think it will be neccessary. It is harder to get album certifications now, everyone knows it.

Yep definitely wanna see that list of albums awarded diamond within a year of release...

in fact the majority of those albums on the list took a decade(S) or more.

[jodakyellow]

Jan 7, 2021 10:43:19 GMT -5 gikem said:

Jan 7, 2021 10:07:45 GMT -5 starlord said:

The self-awareness jumped out with this title

[Groovy]

Jan 7, 2021 11:38:49 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Since the Spotify charts aren’t out, lets just assume that Good Days is still at 1 since it accumulated 2M streams.

I was off by a 1M but let's just pretend. 

[gikem]

Save Your Tears returns to #161 on Spotify US. Let's see if it gets more traction in the coming days.

[Deleted]

Jan 7, 2021 8:26:13 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Jan 6, 2021 23:51:51 GMT -5 code said:

Its 2021 and I still don't know how certifications work

Well it is simple, for RIAA it is like this:

For albums:

1 pure sale = 10 track sales = 1,500 On-Demand Streams (Audio/Video)

For songs:

1 song sale = 150 On-Demand Streams (Audio/Video)

For RIAA unlike Billboard it doesn't matter weather the streams are paid or free. On-Demand means programmed streams from services like Pandora don't count.

Also only officially uploaded videos count for certification purposes. So no UGC (user generated content), only videos uploaded to the artist channel or the record label/movie company channel.

And ofc RIAA is U.S.A. only.

This is all you need to know for RIAA certifications.

Jan 7, 2021 0:07:24 GMT -5 @dey said:

And a ton easier to achieve than In the past.  

If you mean for singles, the award is literally called DIGITAL Single Award. So it is pointless to compare to previous decades. That award is meant for this era and the future.

Also Diamond Single =/= Diamond Album   

- I have seen comparisons like this... please don't.

But if you meant for albums it is easier to get, thanks to streaming. Well

The best selling album in the streaming era (2015-) is '25'. But that is mostly thanks to big pure sales, so i will ignore it (11.7M BB units). The second biggest album is 'Views' which sits at 6.7M Album Untis (using Billbaord/Nielsen formula, RIAA should be higher but not by much - because the albums isn't big on video streaming).

The third biggest one is 'beerbongs & bentleys' sitting at 6M.

Only 8 albums have crossed the 5M mark in the Streaming Era. (using Billboard/Nielsen units formula)

Should i point out how many albums sold 5M + each year in other decades, should i point out how many albums reached Diamond status within a year or two back in the days.

I don't think it will be neccessary. It is harder to get album certifications now, everyone knows it.

tl;dr: The Digital Single Award is meant for this era, so don't compare with previous eras. Regarding albums it is a lot harder to get higher certificaions.

I meant certifications in general, I never mentioned singles or albums, nor diamond.

[strongerq]

Jan 7, 2021 12:47:03 GMT -5 @dey said:

Jan 7, 2021 8:26:13 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Should i point out how many albums sold 5M + each year in other decades, should i point out how many albums reached Diamond status within a year or two back in the days.

I don't think it will be neccessary. It is harder to get album certifications now, everyone knows it.

Yep definitely wanna see that list of albums awarded diamond within a year of release...

in fact the majority of those albums on the list took a decade(S) or more.

Well...

From 2015-now only 2 albums have sold 4M+ in a tracking year: Views (4M) & 25 (8M)

1993-1999 = 28 albums

2000-2005 = 23 albums

Albums selling 500k in 5th week was reality for big albums back in the day, now lmfao

Here are some i wont bother anymore:

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}

[strongerq]

Jan 7, 2021 13:15:16 GMT -5 @dey said:

I meant certifications in general, I never mentioned singles or albums, nor diamond.

Well that is why i wrote it like that.

Album certifications are harder to get now compared to 90s/80s.

Singles certifications didn't even exist then in this form.

So ofcourse there are 10k songs getting certified now compared to almost none in the 80s.

That is why i said don't compare Single certifications to Album certifications.

The award is called Digital Single Award.

[Enigma.]

Jan 7, 2021 8:37:13 GMT -5 dovahduck said:

It also re-entered the Spotify charts. Hope it's a hit and finally makes radio drop BL.

EDIT, oh it was already said on the previous page.

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Jan 7, 2021 13:21:11 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Jan 7, 2021 13:15:16 GMT -5 @dey said:

I meant certifications in general, I never mentioned singles or albums, nor diamond.

Well that is why i wrote it like that.

Album certifications are harder to get now compared to 90s/80s.

Singles certifications didn't even exist then in this form.

So ofcourse there are 10k songs getting certified now compared to almost none in the 80s.

That is why i said don't compare Single certifications to Album certifications.

The award is called Digital Single Award.

It is most certainly not harder nowadays for an album to get an RIAA cert.  gold is ridiculously low and easy.

you keep seeming to need to attach numbers like 4m  or 8m or diamond.  I'm not talking about multiple cents, but the simple fact of getting certified.

as well music and the world existed before the 1990s.  In fact about half of chart history for the hot 100.  Yes I realize RIAA didn't start in 1958.