Billboard Hot 100: 02/27/2021

[Gary]

Is #76 even considered popular?

[inverse]

Feb 23, 2021 7:06:10 GMT -5 samo🦕 said:

Feb 23, 2021 6:49:52 GMT -5 inverse said:

I mean he didn’t say anything misogynistic

...

it's the

& for the females have a video where you're half naked or acting like a slut in it

for me

it's the

I guess she didn't "69" enough Billboard & radio people!

for me

it's the

Especially if her WAP ain't as good as she thinks it is!

for me

I see your point...

[atg]

Feb 23, 2021 14:29:56 GMT -5 Gary said:

Is #76 even considered popular?

I mean in context, its the 76th most popular song out of trillions of songs in the entire history of the US this week. I think that’s a big deal don’t you think?

[firefox]

I assume Love Story won't survive another week.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Yeah. Quite likely. But it would probably manage to re-enter whenever Fearless (Taylor's version) is released.

[wavey.]

It's popular in the metrics that made it #76, BUT I get you saying it cause YOU don't like it.

[andrebra]

It literally has nothing to do with the fact about whether I like it or not, I simply think it’s dumb how a song can be charting at all when it’s being driven by one metric (a metric it’s not even that high on tbh) that doesn’t even really revolve around consumers willingly consuming it. I really don’t see how that’s such a controversial thing to say, especially when people make the same argument all the time. This forum really is one of the most toxic places for the most stupid and select reasons. If you really had that much of a problem with what I posted, you could have just not replied. But whatever, I’m out ✌️

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Feb 23, 2021 21:02:55 GMT -5 andrebra said:

It literally has nothing to do with the fact about whether I like it or not, I simply think it’s dumb how a song can be charting at all when it’s being driven by one metric (a metric it’s not even that high on tbh) that doesn’t even really revolve around consumers willingly consuming it. I really don’t see how that’s such a controversial thing to say, especially when people make the same argument all the time. This forum really is one of the most toxic places for the most stupid and select reasons. If you really had that much of a problem with what I posted, you could have just not replied. But whatever, I’m out ✌️

like I said, I get your point, but no one cares about the #76 position. The bigger "problem" is Go Crazy, a radio driven song that is #8 currently, but it's #50 on streaming and nowhere to be found on digital chart.

[jayhawk1117]

Yeah that's tea. How a song in 2021 can nearly top the chart, it's predicted to make top 5 I think, based off of Airplay alone is a mess

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

The way I see it, music continues to become more segmented (for better or for worse, it’s its own conversation) through streaming and even digital sales, so songs that are doing well are doing so with specific demographics but don’t always have general audience consumption. Radio is still much more broad in its overall audience, particularly when you have songs doing well on several formats, so those songs are going to have a greater showing on charts that measure all of them together - such as the Hot 100.

The Hot 100 might be an all-in-one chart but it has its limitations and I think this is another one. For what it’s meant to do, including radio is essential because songs doing well on radio only are still being consumed by large numbers of people. It should count, even if it isn’t active listening because people who only listen to music through the radio still count. If you want to know what people are actively seeking out and listening to on purpose, streaming is probably the best bet. But even then, it’s limited because not everyone streams music and there are still dedicated music fans who listen to music in other ways who aren’t included.

I really think people expecting to Hot 100 to answer their prayers for an accurate measurement are never going to be satisfied because there are more variables than ever when determining what should go into it and how much. But there are enough charts out there to find one that will suit what you think is an accurate measure based on what you consider valuable.

[lazer]

But nowadays radio seems to play whatever song they want without the audience's approval. Midnight Sky had high positive rate among the audience but radio decides to drop it like a rock. Some songs have extremely low streams but also extremely high in radio airplay. Radio also plays songs that were past their peak such as Put Your Records On. At this point Driver's License should've been the #1 song, not Go Crazy.

[lurker2]

Feb 24, 2021 11:36:24 GMT -5 lazer said:

But nowadays radio seems to play whatever song they want without the audience's approval. Midnight Sky had high positive rate among the audience but radio decides to drop it like a rock. Some songs have extremely low streams but also extremely high in radio airplay. Radio also plays songs that were past their peak such as Put Your Records On. At this point Driver's License should've been the #1 song, not Go Crazy.

Driver's Lisence is surging, though. I'd bet it beats Go Crazy within two weeks, max. If anything, the PYROs and Fallings of the world are shows of radio being good - songs that are popular with the public get on radio, even if it misses the surge. If only they were better songs lol.

[suzcruz7]

I was gonna say PYRO is definitely setting up to be my 2021 version of Falling this year lol.  But idk I think that song's streaming merited the radio at least a little more.

I don't think radio should be completely excluded from the formula, I just think it should be cut down since the decision-making for what gets airplay is so concentrated in the hands of so few people. Now if we were to decentralize radio significantly...

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Feb 24, 2021 13:00:28 GMT -5 suzcruz7 said:

I was gonna say PYRO is definitely setting up to be my 2021 version of Falling this year lol.  But idk I think that song's streaming merited the radio at least a little more.

don't say that

if PYRO is 2021's Falling, then it'll hit #1 and we cant handle that

[s9983]

Feb 23, 2021 19:08:57 GMT -5 firefox said:

I assume Love Story won't survive another week.

It will survive another week . Think it will fall out in it's 3rd week though. Prolly a re-entry when fearless taylors version is dropped though

[g8erboi]

"Falling" was so good though. Y’all need to stop hating!

[Groovy]

Feb 24, 2021 17:59:59 GMT -5 g8erboi said:

"Falling" was so good though. Y’all need to stop hating!

Falling is not a good song, Trevor Daniel's vocals are cringy and I think it's a bit overproduced that being said, in a way I do like the song. 

[g8erboi]

I mean it’s not a masterpiece or anything, but I just thought it was a nice change of pace for radio back in the summer. There was a nice juxtaposition with it being sandwiched in between upbeat songs like "Say So" and "Adore You" on radio playlists during the time.

Unfortunately my local station stopped playing it for good as soon as it went recurrent lmao.

Edit: I just saw it now has over 1B steams on Spotify lol. It totally deserved its radio peaks imo.

[Limited Edition]

I can't stand Falling

[kimberly]

"Falling" by Harry Styles deserved "Falling" by Trevor Daniel's success

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Feb 24, 2021 18:08:57 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Feb 24, 2021 17:59:59 GMT -5 g8erboi said:

"Falling" was so good though. Y’all need to stop hating!

Falling is not a good song, Trevor Daniel's vocals are cringy and I think it's a bit overproduced that being said, in a way I do like the song. 

someone described him as shitty Swae Lee and it makes so much sense

His vocals are horrific

[chartfreak]

Feb 23, 2021 13:58:13 GMT -5 andrebra said:

Feb 23, 2021 12:52:40 GMT -5 Gary said:

What position should it be?

it shouldn't have one lol? i guarantee if i’d ask 20 of my closest friends if they’ve heard of it, they would say no. it has zero streaming and sales presence. the formula is broken.

I haven't even heard some of the songs in the top 10!

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

Feb 23, 2021 3:37:40 GMT -5 at40fansince1984 said:

OK I've been following the Top 100 longer than all of you were sperm in your dads nut sack or maybe test tube & even the worst 80's & 90's music is better than today's auto-tune buried deep in various sound effect mumble rap sh!t called music!!

Are you sure about it?







+ a good majority of the Chicago and Miami bass songs from the time.

Even my least favorite song from the current top 10, "Go Crazy", is objectively better than all these. Take off the rose-tinted glasses!
And yes, trap (or 'mumble rap') can be uninspired and generic sometimes, but that literally applies to all genres. If you seriously think songs like "The Box", "WAP", "ROCKSTAR", and "WHAT'S POPPIN" are worse than the examples above...well... 

[jthentic]

Dafuq, there was a track called short dick man? lmao

[Gary]

As with everything. Comes down to personal taste.

I like some of those songs

[chingaling]

Feb 25, 2021 10:11:45 GMT -5 Gary said:

As with everything. Comes down to personal taste.

I like some of those songs

Absolutely. I think "Everything I do (I do it for you)", in spite of being somehow corny, is a great ballad and represents its time. I don't see how it's awful and of course I think it's much better than "What's poppin"

[gikem]

Everything I Do is a bad song, but I do feel it’s a little overhated these days. I think if it wasn’t the biggest hit of 1991 (and thus one of the biggest hits of all time), it wouldn’t get as much flack as it does.

In terms of awful adult contemporary schlock, I’d argue One More Try, Because I Love You (The Postman Song), Place in This World, and From a Distance are all much worse, and that’s just from the 1991 YE. Don’t get me started on 1990.

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

Feb 25, 2021 10:08:38 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Dafuq, there was a track called short dick man? lmao

Not only that, but it peaked at #14 on the Hot 100, and was a #1 hit in Italy and France.

Even more hilarious, the track was infamously performed - completely uncensored - at a Brazilian family friendly show.

[jthentic]

Feb 25, 2021 10:32:34 GMT -5 Lost In Musical Reverie said:

Feb 25, 2021 10:08:38 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Dafuq, there was a track called short dick man? lmao

Not only that, but it peaked at #14 on the Hot 100, and was a #1 hit in Italy and France.

Even more hilarious, the track was infamously performed - completely uncensored - at a Brazilian family friendly show.

Dead 😂😂

[chingaling]

Short dick man was ahead of its time, not sonically since it fits the US dance music of the early 90s but for its content... nowadays it's common to see very vulgar songs flooding the charts but 27 years ago it wasn't something common. I think it was one of the first (if not the first, outside hip hop community) to be that explicit. An edited version called "Short short man" was played by the radios.

And on top of that, it was a humorous song, not to be taken seriously.