Billboard Hot 100: 06/05/2021

[nathanalbright]

May 22, 2021 22:03:22 GMT -5 s9983 said:

Butter isn't a bad song and their US popularity rise over the years is definitely amazing, but let's not lie to ourselves here. If website sales were banned they would NOT go #1. Allowing the same set of fans to buy 50+ copies EACH is the most ridiculous and broken billboard flaw ever. In an effort to prove that sales really aren't dead they're allowing some of the most blatant fraud seen in the last few years. It is NOT an accurate representation of music consumption from the audience and that's the whole point of the billboard charts

I think a lot of people (myself included) are with you there.  It feels sometimes like Billboard wants the clout of the army so much for themselves that they turn a blind eye to blatant fraud.

[gikem]

May 22, 2021 22:03:22 GMT -5 s9983 said:

Butter isn't a bad song and their US popularity rise over the years is definitely amazing, but let's not lie to ourselves here. If website sales were banned they would NOT go #1. Allowing the same set of fans to buy 50+ copies EACH is the most ridiculous and broken billboard flaw ever. In an effort to prove that sales really aren't dead they're allowing some of the most blatant fraud seen in the last few years. It is NOT an accurate representation of music consumption from the audience and that's the whole point of the billboard charts

Not to mention they've had multiple opportunities over the past year to get rid of them - they could have easily announced getting rid of D2C/physical sales for song charts last month after Dynamite finally exited (and if it were up to me, I'd shift them over to the Digital Song Sales chart and convert that into a general Song Sales chart). Instead, I guess Billboard is more interested in getting engagement from fans so that they can keep making coin.

At least Rolling Stone is still an option, and I doubt they'll debut at #1 over there.

[fridayteenage]

Spotify day 1
Brutal 2.85
Traitor 2.71

Needy 2.997
Nasa 2.95

The 1 4.18
Exile 3.83

Hmm, at least based on that measurement we can't count on t10 album tracks. Well, 2 #1s for a debuting teenager is amazing.

[grandeflipper]

May 22, 2021 17:51:08 GMT -5 mgkjn11 said:

Also why do BTS stans and Army care so much about how popular they are in the United States. It doesn’t really make sense since they’re not American acts. It’s like Americans worrying about if the NFL is the biggest sport in Europe but just glossing over their impact in America and vice versa with the Europeans worrying if soccer is the biggest sport in the United States. I doubt they’ll ever be as big as American acts here in the US (Post Malone, Drake, Grande, Swift, even Olivia now) but there is no doubt they’re the biggest things to ever come out of Asia/Japan

BTS stans and Army want BTS to be popular in the United States because that is what BTS themselves want. They grew up idolizing US artists and being able to penetrate the US market and "make it" here is everything to them. The fans know they want it and will clearly do anything and everything to make it happen. It only matters to Army because it matters to the boys. And also it's more money--if you're a musical act, why would you NOT want to make it in the music industry here? I've never heard or seen any musical artist NOT want to be popular in the US. Have you?

[lurker2]

May 22, 2021 23:48:19 GMT -5 grandeflipper said:

I've never heard or seen any musical artist NOT want to be popular in the US. Have you?

The way some artists do their rollouts, it makes me wonder.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Anyway, let’s talk about how Lil Nas X just revolutionized live on tv performance and is responsible for the best two songs of 2021.

[whales10268]

May 23, 2021 0:19:30 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Anyway, let’s talk about how Lil Nas X just disgraced live on tv performance and is responsible for the worst two songs of 2021.

Fixed.

[iwin]

Damn the filteration percentage really fucks bts. Armys need to get better at streaming

[atg]

May 22, 2021 4:56:53 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

May 21, 2021 23:55:35 GMT -5 atg said:

So Levitating was really the Hotline Bling of the weekly charts…

Not really, the closest thing I can come up with to compare to Levitating is Ellie Goulding's Lights, which got blocked from #1 on its 34th week by Whistle in 2012. But that was more of the result of a slow climb, rather than a resurgence.

Don't look now, but the next Levitating might already be here. Forever After All, which peaked and debuted at #2 in November, is on track to post a 20% gain in points in its 30th week on the charts. If FAA continues its resurgence, it might become the best comparison to Levitating.

Man how did I forget Forever After All hit #2? That is still unbelievable to me and I’m happy did Luke did that but it completely left my mind.

[meg]

May 23, 2021 0:42:18 GMT -5 iwin said:

Damn the filteration percentage really f**ks bts. Armys need to get better at streaming

Army are good at streaming on spotify. There never was this much of filtered streams. No one will tell me it's not removed on purpose so "someone else" would be on top. Spotify is sketchy the same way billboard is.

[iwin]

May 23, 2021 1:25:07 GMT -5 meg said:

May 23, 2021 0:42:18 GMT -5 iwin said:

Damn the filteration percentage really f**ks bts. Armys need to get better at streaming

Army are good at streaming on spotify. There never was this much of filtered streams. No one will tell me it's not removed on purpose so "someone else" would be on top. Spotify is sketchy the same way billboard is.

Yea like our max was filtering was black swan with 40% but that had low playisting. Dynamite had 38% filtering. Its absurd that suddenly we have a 47% filtering rate when we didn't do anything other than what we already do

[Anticonformity]

May 23, 2021 0:19:30 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Anyway, let’s talk about how Lil Nas X just revolutionized live on tv performance and is responsible for the best two songs of 2021.

Talk to me anytime about this!

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 05/21/21

Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR
1(=) good 4 u 4,974,833 (+1,673,776)
2(debut) brutal 2,849,969
3(+3) deja vu 2,794,828 (+1,587,358)
4(debut) traitor 2,709,147
5(debut) enough for you 2,366,217
6(debut) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 2,296,296
7(debut) happier 2,279,399
8(+8) drivers license 2,117,944 (+1,399,094)
9(debut) jealousy, jealous 1,994,138
11(debut) favorite crime 1,886,343
12(debut) hope ur ok 1,818,132
Total Streams: 28,087,246

Others:
10(debut) BTS - Butter 1,917,442
13(-11) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,677,322 (+54,855)
14(-10) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,425,920 (+77,535)
15(-12) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 1,376,605 (-62,086)
16(-9) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,225,918 (+39,114)
17(-12) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 1,172,154 (-64,363)
18(-9) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,155,588 (+61,248)
19(-9) Justin Bieber - Peaches 1,022,926 (+35,931)
20(-12) J. Cole - a m a r i 993,441 (-101,099)
21(debut) Polo G - GANG GANG 927,521
22(-10) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 853,997 (+32,586)
23(-9) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 770,598 (+45,930)
24(-6) Drake - Wants and Needs 767,808 (+52,030)
25(-10) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 765,767 (+42,024)
26(-15) J. Cole - i n t e r l u d e 747,492 (-107,654)
27(-10) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 729,027 (+11,254)
28(-15) J. Cole - 9 5 . s o u t h 718,328 (-70,463)
29(debut) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 709,239
30(-4) Nicki Minaj - Seeing Green 687,447 (+109,129)
31(-12) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 662,596 (-4,856)
32(-9) Cardi B - Up 646,592 (+24,535)
33(-8) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 620,959 (+27,470)
34(-10) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 615,841 (+14,287)
35(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Saturday 615,716
36(-16) J. Cole - l e t . g o . m y . h a n d 586,437 (-59,043)
37(-15) J. Cole - 1 0 0 . m i l ‘ 582,543 (-55,589)
38(-8) Saweetie - Best Friend 574,400 (+32,495)
39(-18) J. Cole - a p p l y i n g . p r e s s u r e 574,335 (-65,304)
40(-12) Kali Uchis - telepatía 566,640 (+4,489)
42(-8) Lil Tecca - Never Left 541,775 (+24,206)
43(-5) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 530,313 (+35,837)
45(re-entry) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 518,210
47(-20) J. Cole - t h e . c l i m b . b a c k 515,044 (-50,115)
48(-2) Joyner Lucas, Lil Baby - Ramen & OJ 514,763 (+69,243)
49(-9) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 511,718 (+30,743)
50(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Good Day 511,435
51(debut) City Girls - Twerkulator 511,096
52(-21) Billie Eilish - Your Power 510,256 (-28,709)
53(-2) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 503,781 (+77,963)
55(-14) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 489,700 (+13,921)
56(-19) Migos - Straightenin 482,511 (-15,612)
57(-18) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 482,039 (-3,916)
58(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Choker 475,697
60(-17) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 467,566 (+13,369)
63(debut) Twenty One Pilots - The Outside 462,646
64(debut) Dream - Mask 457,123
66(-21) Lil Tjay - Headshot 455,043 (+8,943)
67(debut) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - 24 Hours 448,552
68(-19) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 448,211 (+12,762)
71(-29) Luke Combs - Forever After All 422,270 (-43,578)
73(-19) Pooh Shiesty - Back in Blood 413,556 (-3,667)
75(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Mulberry Street 403,357
76(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Never Take It 402,184
77(-18) Travis Scott, HVME - Goosebumps 397,405 (+23,917)
79(-21) StarBoi3 - Dick 392,553 (+15,058)
80(-18) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 390,675 (+26,675)
81(-25) Justin Bieber - Hold On 386,825 (+851)
82(-25) Cico P - Tampa 385,056 (+4,704)
83(debut) Anne-Marie, Niall Horan - Our Song 383,580
85(-24) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 373,532 (+8,863)
86(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Formidable 372,470
87(-17) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 371,424 (+26,974)
88(debut) Twenty One Pilots - No Chances 370,982
93(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Bounce Man 356,293
94(debut) Galantis - Heartbreak Anthem 356,244
96(-36) Internet Money - His & Hers 351,764 (-15,392)
97(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Redecorate 350,658
98(-32) Tion Wayne, Russ Millions - Body (Remix) 349,321 (-1,906)
99(-28) Surf Curse - Freaks 347,940 (+3,889)

104(-36) AURORA - Runaway 339,606 (-7,839)
107(-20) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 332,782 (+20,419)
110(-28) Dua Lipa - We're Good 328,685 (+5,065)
114(debut) Marshmello - Leave Before You Leave Me 325,195
115(-15) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 319,607 (+32,562)
116(-36) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 319,430 (-8,217)
118(-21) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 314,612 (+22,187)
120(debut) 42 Dugg - Maybach 311,411
121(-26) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 305,799 (+9,980)
130(-40) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 295,272 (-8,380)
133(-9) Olivia Rodrigo - All I Want 294,693 (+43,546)
134(-42) Tiësto - The Business 294,223 (-6,397)
137(debut) Pooh Shiesty - Switch It Up 287,727
139(-33) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 283,925 (+8,848)
144(debut) BTS - Butter (Instrumental) 278,673
146(-12) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 273,368 (+30,001)
149(-34) Mitski - Washing Machine Heart 270,121 (+3,072)
150(debut) Lil Baby - We Win (Space Jam: A New Legacy) 267,971
155(-32) Rod Wave - Richer 259,981 (+2,950)
157(-39) Don Toliver - What You Need 258,074 (-6,655)
158(-20) Gera MX, Christian Nodal - Botella Tras Botella 256,059 (+15,084)
159(re-entry) Riton, Nightcrawlers - Friday 254,485
164(-42) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 250,691 (-7,127)
172(-35) Paramore - Misery Business 244,559 (+1,740)
176(re-entry) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 241,926
181(-41) Ashnikko Princess Nokia - Slumber Party 238,992 (-1,383)
182(-57) MARINA - Bubblegum Bitch 238,711 (-11,062)
189(-25) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 236,926 (+1,740)
191(re-entry) Jake Owen - Made for You 236,635

Total Streams for Twenty One Pilots - Scaled and Icy: 4,839,648
Total Streams for Butter: 2,196,115
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 989,373

Biggest Gains (50K+): 4 Da Gang, Ramen & OJ, Seeing Green, Wants and Needs, MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name), RAPSTAR, Kiss Me More, drivers license, deja vu, good 4 u

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Both Lil Nas X performances are really good. Even though I've cooled down on MONTERO since it's release, the performance should go down as one of the best in SNL's history.

[nathanalbright]

That's a lot of shady streams being taken away? Were people trying to VPN into the US to boost that stream count?

[pokepikalem]

May 23, 2021 2:13:42 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

That's a lot of shady streams being taken away? Were people trying to VPN into the US to boost that stream count?

I think maybe ARMY left their laptops on while sleeping.

[fengyu]

May 22, 2021 23:21:23 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

Spotify day 1
Brutal 2.85
Traitor 2.71

Needy 2.997
Nasa 2.95

The 1 4.18
Exile 3.83

Hmm, at least based on that measurement we can't count on t10 album tracks. Well, 2 #1s for a debuting teenager is amazing.

sorry i don't understand what you're trying to get at here?

[iamsorare]

May 23, 2021 1:52:20 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Both Lil Nas X performances are really good. Even though I've cooled down on MONTERO since it's release, the performance should go down as one of the best in SNL's history.

I didn't know that SNL allow lip-sync ...and he tried too hard to be controversial with the fake d*** slip at the end of Montero.imagine how tired we are...

[jthentic]

Bruh, lil Nas performance was OK @ best but has improved (not talkin abt live vocals, it's non-existent 💀) compared to those previous awful award show performances. You consider dat one of the best the show has seen? Seriously? Lmao, ppl need to tone down on over-praise.

[thegreatdivine]

SOUR isn't holding on as well as I'd hoped it would on Apple Music :(

US Apple Music (30 hours ago):

#1. “good 4 u” (=)
#3. “traitor” (+4)
#4. “deja vu” (=)
#5. “brutal” (+4)
#7. “enough for you” (+4)
#9. “1 step forward, 3 steps back” (+3)
#11. “happier” (+4)
#13. “jealousy, jealousy” (+8)
#14. “favorite crime” (+11)
#15. “drivers license” (+4)
#17. “hope ur ok” (+9)

US Apple Music (right now):

#1. “good 4 u” (=)
#4. “deja vu” (=)
#5. “traitor” (-2)
#7. “brutal” (-2)
#8. “enough for you” (-1)
#10. “happier” (+1)
#11. “1 step forward, 3 steps back” (-2)
#14. “drivers license” (+1)
#18. “favorite crime” (+4)
#20. “jealousy, jealousy” (-7)
#24. “hope ur ok” (-7)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 23, 2021 4:35:59 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Bruh, lil Nas performance was OK @ best but has improved (not talkin abt live vocals, it's non-existent 💀) compared to those previous awful award show performances. You consider dat one of the best the show has seen? Seriously? Lmao, ppl need to tone down on over-praise.

I'm talking about talk-shows and live TV performances like SNL, not the big award show performances that have a bigger stage and budget. Performances for TV shows are routinely hampered by the small stage, audio issues, and aren't usually that interesting to watch - choreography, backgrounds, and lighting is limited given the stage obviously. 

Of the recent SNL performances, the only ones that I really remember being interesting was Frank Ocean purely for his vocal performance, Halsey being able to create a mural while performing Eastside was different, and Kanye's performance of BLACK SKKKNHEAD for the lighting and energy. I would put LNX among the better ones recently.

[ZERO]

May 23, 2021 4:16:56 GMT -5 iamsorare said:

I didn't know that SNL allow lip-sync

There is none

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Lmao y'all really do not know anything about the history of SNL if this is the first time there's been lip syncing

[kiddo1994]

lol, big FILTER is normal for stanbases..
7 Rings did 8M/14M right
and ROM did 6M/10M
same BIG Filter for Taylor as well

[Groovy]

May 23, 2021 6:28:57 GMT -5 ZERO said:

May 23, 2021 4:16:56 GMT -5 iamsorare said:

I didn't know that SNL allow lip-sync

There is none

[jenglisbe]

May 23, 2021 1:52:20 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Even though I've cooled down on MONTERO since it's release, the performance should go down as one of the best in SNL's history.

Why? I mean I get that we haven't seen that from LGBT+ on SNL, but apart from that angle I don't see anything particularly special/great about the performance. The majority of performers have given better vocals, and artists from Janet Jackson and more have given better choreography and such.

May 23, 2021 5:40:01 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

May 23, 2021 4:35:59 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Bruh, lil Nas performance was OK @ best but has improved (not talkin abt live vocals, it's non-existent 💀) compared to those previous awful award show performances. You consider dat one of the best the show has seen? Seriously? Lmao, ppl need to tone down on over-praise.

I'm talking about talk-shows and live TV performances like SNL, not the big award show performances that have a bigger stage and budget. Performances for TV shows are routinely hampered by the small stage, audio issues, and aren't usually that interesting to watch - choreography, backgrounds, and lighting is limited given the stage obviously. 

Of the recent SNL performances, the only ones that I really remember being interesting was Frank Ocean purely for his vocal performance, Halsey being able to create a mural while performing Eastside was different, and Kanye's performance of BLACK SKKKNHEAD for the lighting and energy. I would put LNX among the better ones recently.

Your first post said one of the best in SNL's history, it didn't clarify that to mean recently.

[meg]

May 23, 2021 2:13:42 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

That's a lot of shady streams being taken away? Were people trying to VPN into the US to boost that stream count?

Army knows how to stream. They know how streams, sales and radio works better than any fandom out there. But you know what's shady?

This

In the own home country, where they just had the biggest streaming day for any act and are #1 on every korean chart. Even Bieber is higher than her in Korea.

Also


BTS had more than 1M streams in India yesterday and they also #1 in all those countries.

Spotify removed just enough streams so she still could be #1 on Global Spotify. She is definition of industry plant.
And Spotify US? In all countries it was really big jump at least 30% difference from Dynamite. But in the US only 4.9%? It's just no realistic.



They also still didn't updated streams for Butter and it shows >1000. It's been more than a day. You know all of this is shady but since she is your precious darling and you clearly don't like BTS, you will say nothing. 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

*sigh*

[Groovy]

Hot take: Butter will be this year’s Despacito, it probably won’t get as many weeks as the latter here but I can see it being a huge sensation for the summer.

[kiddo1994]

^it needs to reach the GP first before it has a chance to be Despacito
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