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Post by sergf13 on Jun 14, 2021 15:56:15 GMT -5
^^Butter had more than triple the weekly global music video views than Good 4 U according to YouTube. YouTube is considered ad-supported. Billboard also filters out a lot of YouTube views, and not all views are ad-supported. If you have YouTube premium then you are contributing in premium streams. |
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Post by rimetm on Jun 14, 2021 15:56:44 GMT -5
One thing: Butter’s streams for the Global 200 don’t include programmed streams. Last week, that constituted 600,000 of its US total, so it’s probably 500,000-700,000 this week. D2C Sales also don’t count to the chart: we don’t know exactly how many there were this week, but its effective sales total is estimated to be below 30,000. In addition, and most critically, the formula for the Global charts favors streaming in a more revenue-reflective rate than the Hot 100, so Good 4 U’s able to press its streaming advantage further.
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Post by sergf13 on Jun 14, 2021 16:00:57 GMT -5
One thing: Butter’s streams for the Global 200 don’t include programmed streams. Last week, that constituted 600,000 of its US total, so it’s probably 500,000-700,000 this week. D2C Sales also don’t count to the chart: we don’t know exactly how many there were this week, but its effective sales total is estimated to be below 30,000. In addition, and most critically, the formula for the Global charts favors streaming in a more revenue-reflective rate than the Hot 100, so Good 4 U’s able to press its streaming advantage further. If we estimate 25k sales from the US, that would be around 121.5M streams and 61.6k sales on the global chart for butter. g4u was #1 with 109.5M streams and 17.6k sales. |
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Post by Choco on Jun 14, 2021 16:02:18 GMT -5
If the Global charts do measure some stuff differently from the Hot 100, then it makes sense I guess. I thought the formula was the same across all three charts, which is why I thought Hot 100 + GlobalExclUS = Global Chart.
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Post by sergf13 on Jun 14, 2021 16:15:34 GMT -5
According to my calculations, for butter to lose the #1 spot it needed to have less than 70% of it's streams be premium. In the US alone, the premium stream rate is over 70%.
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Post by rimetm on Jun 14, 2021 16:45:19 GMT -5
According to my calculations, for butter to lose the #1 spot it needed to have less than 70% of it's streams be premium. In the US alone, the premium stream rate is over 70%. That is indeed the case and then some. Based off of YouTube and Spotify revenue statistics, I estimate Butter to have approximately 15% of its streams as premium outside of the US, with the country added in bringing the percentage up to just 16%. In contrast, Good 4 U's split gives it about 44% of its streams being premium outside of the US, with the country added in upping that to 61%. Modeling it out, those circumstances are apt to provide clear cut results matching the announcement:  |
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Post by Groovy on Jun 14, 2021 18:29:25 GMT -5
FWIW, good 4 u overtook Butter on the Global 200.
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 14, 2021 19:41:28 GMT -5
Serious question? Would Butter still be #1 if it had, say only like 5 million AI?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 14, 2021 21:55:04 GMT -5
BTS fans should go for the record of Old Town Road :kii: they should. They've found such a massive loophole that literally anything can be accomplished with the right number of fans willing to spend $5 a week. That's really all it is. Have every fan buy 5 different versions a week, for $5. Would you spend $5 a week to get your fav to #1 knowing that it has a 90% chance? Of course. Again, such a massive loophole, I bet Taylor will take advantage to prevent any sort of Me! situation again. And honestly Katy should take advantage to give herself a better chance at even charting, lol. |
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Post by sergf13 on Jun 14, 2021 22:08:07 GMT -5
BTS fans should go for the record of Old Town Road  they should. They've found such a massive loophole that literally anything can be accomplished with the right number of fans willing to spend $5 a week. That's really all it is. Have every fan buy 5 different versions a week, for $5. Would you spend $5 a week to get your fav to #1 knowing that it has a 90% chance? Of course. Again, such a massive loophole, I bet Taylor will take advantage to prevent any sort of Me! situation again. And honestly Katy should take advantage to give herself a better chance at even charting, lol. Taylor already has taken advantage of this, and will definitely continue to do so. Both cardigan and willow went #1 from this exact method. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 14, 2021 22:08:43 GMT -5
If Tom McDonald can chart, surely Katy has enough stans left to massbuy her way into a Hot 100 entry, right?
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Post by sergf13 on Jun 14, 2021 22:11:35 GMT -5
Serious question? Would Butter still be #1 if it had, say only like 5 million AI? If AI was completely removed from every song on the chart, Butter would still be #1. Even if Butter just had all of it's radio removed, it would still most likely have a paper-thin lead on g4u. So, yes 5M AI would still be enough for #1. |
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Post by Groovy on Jun 14, 2021 22:18:23 GMT -5
So far The Good Ones, Hell of a View and On Me went recurrent.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 14, 2021 23:31:02 GMT -5
Anyone know if One Too Many survived recurrency yet again?
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Post by Naos on Jun 15, 2021 0:10:02 GMT -5
Anyone know if One Too Many survived recurrency yet again? Yes, it's on its 26th week. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 15, 2021 0:18:03 GMT -5
What a saga that is. It's like a minor key variation of the Blinding Lights one, a testament to surviving El Perdon-style against the odds week after week in the lower reaches of the chart  . |
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Post by Naos on Jun 15, 2021 0:18:57 GMT -5
"Last Train Home" by John Mayer debuts at #1 on the Bubbling Under Hot 100.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 15, 2021 0:26:26 GMT -5
"Last Train Home" by John Mayer debuts at #1 on the Bubbling Under Hot 100. Do we have any news about Transparent Soul yet? I actually like that one. |
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Post by Naos on Jun 15, 2021 0:30:56 GMT -5
Notable gains:
#21 - Voice of the Heroes (+60)
#51 - Blame It On You (+12)
#53 - Todo de Ti (+13)
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Post by Naos on Jun 15, 2021 0:31:47 GMT -5
"Last Train Home" by John Mayer debuts at #1 on the Bubbling Under Hot 100. Do we have any news about Transparent Soul yet? I actually like that one. Is #2 on Bubbling Under. |
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Post by inverse on Jun 15, 2021 0:42:18 GMT -5
What a saga that is. It's like a minor key variation of the Blinding Lights one, a testament to surviving El Perdon-style against the odds week after week in the lower reaches of the chart . Difference is that it was fun to watch Blinding Lights and El Perdon because they weren't thuddingly terrible
Honestly even Talk You Out Of It looks like Chris Stapleton is comparison
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 15, 2021 1:01:12 GMT -5
Do we have any news about Transparent Soul yet? I actually like that one. Is #2 on Bubbling Under. Those are two of the redemption tours I want to see happen this summer, but it can't happen unless they actually hit the charts. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 15, 2021 4:46:27 GMT -5
Notable Gains:
#21. Lil Baby and Lil Durk - Voice of the Heroes (+60)
#51. Jason Aldean - Blame It On You (+12)
#53. Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti (+13)
Notable Losses:
#26. Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime (-10)
#35. Olivia Rodrigo - brutal (-16)
#41. SpotemGottem feat. Pooh Shiesty or DaBaby - Beat Box (-12)
#42. Machine Gun Kelly feat. blackbear - my ex's best friend (-11)
#44. Mooski - Track Star (-12)
#47. J. Cole feat. Morray and 21 Savage - m y . l i f e (-19)
#48. Pooh Shiesty feat. Lil Durk - Back in Blood (-13)
#54. Olivia Rodrigo - enough for you (-27)
#57. Olivia Rodrigo - jealousy, jealousy (-15)
#62. Sam Hunt - Breaking Up Was Easy in the 90s (-13)
#64. J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l (-19)
#65. Olivia Rodrigo - 1 step forward, 3 steps back (-27)
#66. Young Thug and Gunna - Ski (-11)
#74. Jake Owen - Made for You (-17)
#75. Billie Eilish - Your Power (-15)
#76. Coi Leray feat. Lil Durk - No More Parties (-17)
#77. Dua Lipa - We're Good (-23)
#81. Blake Shelton - Minimum Wage (-12)
#82. Trippie Redd and Playboi Carti - Miss the Rage (-24)
#84. Olivia Rodrigo - hope ur ok (-32)
#85. Morray - Quicksand (-12)
#88. Polo G and Lil Wayne - GANG GANG (-27)
#89. Chase Rice feat. Florida Georgia Line - Drinkin' Beer. Talkin' God. Amen.
#92. Cochise and $NOT - Tell Em (-28)
#93. 42 Dugg and Roddy Ricch - 4 Da Gang (-19)
#94. Rod Wave - Tombstone (-15)
#95. Drake - What's Next (-19)
#100. Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne, and Drake - Seeing Green (-33)
No re-entries today
Biggest Airplay Gain: good 4 u
Biggest Sales Gain: Astronaut in the Ocean
Biggest Streaming Gain: Voice of the Heroes
Notable Dropouts: The Good Ones, Hell of a View, On Me, Goosebumps (HVME Remix), Hello, Pick Up Your Feelings, The Business, Drankin N Smokin, Hold On, Wasted on You
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jun 15, 2021 5:26:35 GMT -5
What a saga that is. It's like a minor key variation of the Blinding Lights one, a testament to surviving El Perdon-style against the odds week after week in the lower reaches of the chart . Difference is that it was fun to watch Blinding Lights and El Perdon because they weren't thuddingly terrible
Honestly even Talk You Out Of It looks like Chris Stapleton is comparison
Let's not go too far. "One Too Many" is a pretty mid song, but at least it isn't an unsettling version of "Versace On The Floor" with the woman being described as a 'grown man's dream' and the narrators wanting to 'talk her out' of her dress. |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Jun 15, 2021 5:49:45 GMT -5
JAZMINE WAS 1 WEEK AWAY FROM 20 WEEKS, YOU MONSTER
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Post by jebsib on Jun 15, 2021 6:37:52 GMT -5
Don't they usually do the "Song of the Summer" thing right after Memorial Day?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 15, 2021 7:23:21 GMT -5
Hot 100 longevity leaders - peak outside top 50 30 El Perdon (Forgiveness), Nicky Jam & Enrique Iglesias 29 HeadBand, B.o.B Featuring 2 Chainz 27 The Rockafeller Skank, Fatboy Slim 26 Madness, Muse 26 One Too Many, Keith Urban Duet With P!nkMadness peaked at 45 |
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Post by Gary on Jun 15, 2021 7:29:35 GMT -5
Apologies - other database errors also - repost ina few minutes
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Post by Gary on Jun 15, 2021 7:35:51 GMT -5
Longevity outside top 50 - updated
30 El Perdon (Forgiveness), Nicky Jam & Enrique Iglesias
29 HeadBand, B.o.B Featuring 2 Chainz
27 The Rockafeller Skank, Fatboy Slim
26 Talk You Out Of It, Florida Georgia Line
26 One Too Many, Keith Urban Duet With P!nk
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 15, 2021 9:12:36 GMT -5
Oldest songs to chart in the Top 15 - updated
79 Blinding Lights, The Weeknd (#15, 6/19/2021)
75 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons (#13, 2/21/2014)
Also, keep in mind that BL, in its 79th week, charted higher than all 16 songs on the Lil Baby & Lil Durk album. Let that sink in for a moment.
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