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Post by whales10268 on Jun 7, 2021 8:01:28 GMT -5
I wish he’d never said the N word, the only point I’m trying to make is that the punishment will never be enough for some people. I just like his music and I understand if this incident makes people not Wanna listen to him. But it will not be enjoyable for me to hear this stuff every time his name is brought up or he releases a single or album for the rest of his career, which I feel is likely to happen. i'm not going to continue flooding this thread, but you can't get mad when you stan a problematic artist and people talk about their problematic behavior. if you have an issue with other people discussing his use of slurs while conversing about him, that is on YOU and you can take that up with God I don’t Stan anyone, I just like great songs like “sand in my boots”. |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jun 7, 2021 8:42:27 GMT -5
where did i say that? i said the only damage his career hit was getting his radio taken away, but that does nothing when his (seemingly large) fanbase was still streaming and buying away. his singles fell off prematurely, but his album still being top 5 lets everyone know that what he did didn't affect his success as an artist and everything you've posted leads me to believe you couldn't care less about what repercussions he has/should've been met with and you're just waiting for it to be over I wish he’d never said the N word, the only point I’m trying to make is that the punishment will never be enough for some people. I just like his music and I understand if this incident makes people not Wanna listen to him. But it will not be enjoyable for me to hear this stuff every time his name is brought up or he releases a single or album for the rest of his career, which I feel is likely to happen. I mean, he brought it to himself. He was the one being a drunken mess getting himself into trouble, which already soured his name to many (remember the SNL controversy where he was removed from the line-up after partying maskless). Then, after being forgiven, this incident happens, and with Mickey Guyton hinting he's used the slur before, the backlash was deserved, and unless he seriously works on improving himself - and as dremolus said, actively fight against racial injustice, people have the right to associate him with it. If you like his music, that's your prerogative, but you have to accept he won't be well-liked in most music circles. I have several artists I love who are hated here, and unlike Wallen, for no proper reason outside disdain for their music. Finally, as others have mentioned, because of the intrinsically racist nature of the country industry and its demographic, his career wasn't nearly as affected as it could have been for a 27-year-old artist in any other genre - the album's massive success is proof. Sadly, he is going to be fine in the long-term. |
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 7, 2021 8:53:11 GMT -5
Im confused why people talk about Nashville being racist when it’s run by progressives.
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Post by rainygirl on Jun 7, 2021 8:59:51 GMT -5
I wish he’d never said the N word, the only point I’m trying to make is that the punishment will never be enough for some people. I just like his music and I understand if this incident makes people not Wanna listen to him. But it will not be enjoyable for me to hear this stuff every time his name is brought up or he releases a single or album for the rest of his career, which I feel is likely to happen. I mean, he brought it to himself. He was the one being a drunken mess getting himself into trouble, which already soured his name to many (remember the SNL controversy where he was removed from the line-up after partying maskless). Then, after being forgiven, this incident happens, and with Mickey Guyton hinting he's used the slur before, the backlash was deserved, and unless he seriously works on improving himself - and as dremolus said, actively fight against racial injustice, people have the right to associate him with it. If you like his music, that's your prerogative, but you have to accept he won't be well-liked in most music circles. I have several artists I love who are hated here, and unlike Wallen, for no proper reason outside disdain for their music. Finally, as others have mentioned, because of the intrinsically racist nature of the country industry and its demographic, his career wasn't nearly as affected as it could have been for a 27-year-old artist in any other genre - the album's massive success is proof. Sadly, he is going to be fine in the long-term. this person is simply trolling at this point and basking in the attention . Please ignore him/her |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 7, 2021 9:23:50 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 7, 2021 10:04:53 GMT -5
Im confused why people talk about Nashville being racist when it’s run by progressives. With a music industry that tends to cater to conservatives. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 7, 2021 10:25:01 GMT -5
I don’t Stan anyone, I just like great songs like “sand in my boots”. If Morgan's team was smart, they should let go of Wasted On You, and push Sand In My Boots as the next single. |
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Post by Kris on Jun 7, 2021 10:57:29 GMT -5
If we eliminated every person in the music industry that did something stupid drunk you wouldn't have many artists left. Fact of the matter is he got caught doing it. Here's hoping he learned from all the backlash he got and has rehabilitated himself to be better so he/we can move on from this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 11:18:55 GMT -5
The remix of Peaches, which replaces Daniel Caesar and Giveon with Usher, Snoop Dogg, and Ludacris, is out now on Apple Music. Should be available elsewhere soon. This is going to be as useless as Life is good Remix. I like the remix better than the original, but I (mostly) agree from a pure chart perspective. It reminds me of the 90s r&b/hip-hop remixes where the main artist would be reduced to hook singer on their own song, and several rappers would hop on in place of the verses. Pop isn't going to touch this and Justin fans aren't going to gravitate to it since he's not on it nearly as much. This could maybe do something for him on urban/r&b airplay though (where he's currently stalled in the teens), either a new peak or at least an extended run there. Depends on how much that matters to him or his label. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 7, 2021 11:42:17 GMT -5
US Spotify - 06/06/21
1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 2,742,190 (-386,908)
2(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 1,437,805 (-174,617)
3(+1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,321,141 (-176,775)
4(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 1,292,553 (-142,805)
5(-2) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 1,176,915 (-356,574)
6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,058,534 (-143,525)
7(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 1,045,962 (-101,805)
8(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - brutal 1,041,617 (-120,982)
9(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,012,813 (-121,020)
10(=) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 1,000,497 (-92,469)
Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR
12(=) drivers license 935,205 (-103,784)
14(+1) enough for you 791,866 (-80,411)
15(+1) jealousy, jealous 789,721 (-76,683)
18(+1) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 703,625 (-75,017)
25(+1) hope ur ok 599,591 (-59,218)
Total Streams: 12,380,632
Others:
11(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 951,768 (-121,372)
13(+1) Justin Bieber - Peaches 838,830 (-119,591)
16(-3) Billie Eilish - Lost Cause 786,785 (-237,646)
17(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 725,984 (-80,277)
19(-1) BTS - Butter 697,777 (-87,839)
20(+2) Drake - Wants and Needs 656,145 (-69,164)
21(-1) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 651,985 (-103,188)
22(-1) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 642,026 (-83,376)
23(=) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 617,647 (-105,799)
24(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 613,314 (-81,835)
26(-1) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 598,308 (-88,662)
27(=) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 571,685 (-86,515)
28(=) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 558,389 (-87,098)
29(=) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 543,515 (-86,187)
30(+3) Cochise, $NOT - Tell Em 542,477 (-27,426)
31(=) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 538,153 (-61,027)
32(=) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 530,622 (-59,282)
33(+3) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 499,798 (-56,567)
34(=) Saweetie - Best Friend 498,164 (-70,874)
35(+4) Kali Uchis - telepatía 484,377 (-46,304)
37(-2) Cardi B - Up 480,253 (-78,229)
38(+3) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 478,577 (-27,033)
39(-1) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 473,709 (-66,701)
41(-11) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Voice of the Heroes 442,181 (-178,369)
42(=) Luke Combs - Forever After All 438,775 (-50,856)
44(+2) Lil Tecca - Never Left 422,120 (-42,923)
47(+1) Polo G - GANG GANG 410,686 (-40,130)
48(-1) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 401,065 (-50,541)
49(+1) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 399,147 (-33,821)
51(+2) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 368,829 (-54,390)
54(-3) J. Cole - a m a r i 365,629 (-67,111)
55(-1) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 363,335 (-45,319)
58(-2) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 341,658 (-52,904)
60(+4) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 333,136 (-32,396)
61(-12) John Mayer - Last Train Home 330,663 (-119,787)
62(=) Justin Bieber - Hold On 330,234 (-54,376)
63(+8) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 325,486 (-31,455)
65(+14) Surf Curse - Freaks 323,484 (-17,246)
67(=) Billie Eilish - Your Power 319,315 (-42,366)
68(+1) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 318,152 (-42,625)
72(-2) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 312,812 (-47,627)
75(+12) Matt Maltese - As the World Caves In 310,419 (-13,069)
78(=) Dua Lipa - We're Good 304,710 (-37,985)
79(+3) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 298,742 (-37,274)
81(-18) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Still Runnin 295,414 (-86,597)
84(-3) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 290,705 (-46,929)
87(-26) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - 2040 289,011 (-99,068)
89(-4) Joyner Lucas, Lil Baby - Ramen & OJ 286,935 (-46,732)
91(-23) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Up the Side 278,921 (-82,489)
95(-5) Migos - Straightenin 273,297 (-47,467)
96(+4) StarBoi3 - Dick 267,951 (-33,064)
97(-2) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 267,564 (-45,426)
100(-28) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Who I Want 261,823 (-89,250)
104(+1) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 257,549 (-34,507)
108(+7) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 248,980 (-33,533)
116(+2) Cico P - Tampa 245,783 (-33,234)
121(+5) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 241,395 (-31,657)
124(-7) Nicki Minaj - Seeing Green 237,052 (-33,645)
127(-21) Eminem - Killer Remix 233,993 (-56,887)
128(+16) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 233,973 (-18,510)
129(+24) SoFaygo - Knock Knock 233,449 (-11,128)
130(+28) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 233,277 (-7,296)
131(+5) Paramore - Misery Business 231,977 (-27,612)
136(+5) Internet Money - His & Hers 230,049 (-25,259)
137(-3) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 229,800 (-31,175)
143(+30) Mitski - Washing Machine Heart 224,908 (-5,133)
158(+2) Juice WRLD - 734 212,037 (-27,684)
160(-54) blackbear - u love u 211,819 (-69,065)
162(-10) City Girls - Twerkulator 210,535 (-34,202)
165(-52) Calvin Harris - By Your Side 208,920 (-73,748)
167(-3) Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave 208,002 (-27,897)
170(-5) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 206,876 (-28,817)
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 938,800
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Post by tanooki on Jun 7, 2021 12:18:13 GMT -5
Cuz you know it’s true lol there's no such thing as a woke mob or cancel culture or whatever the f**k, Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word and his punishment was getting the #1 album of 2021 so far ( #1 by a pretty good margin, too). All there is are people suffering the consequences of their actions and they don't even get punished half the time (those sales for Morgan Wallen were INSANE). In fact, here's the iTunes US estimate for Feb. 4, 2021: #1. Morgan Wallen - More Than My Hometown - 2,515 #2. Tom MacDonald - Fake Woke - 2,212 #3. Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You - 2,074 #4. Morgan Wallen - Whiskey Glasses - 1,890 #5. Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers - 1,624 #6. Morgan Wallen - Sand In My Boots - 1,561 #7. Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license - 1,185 #8. Morgan Wallen - Chasin' You - 1,169 #9. Justin Bieber - Anyone - 987 #10. Morgan Wallen - Up Down (feat. Florida Georgia Line) - 930 #11. The Weeknd - Blinding Lights - 914 #12. CJ - Whoopty - 837 #13. Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) - 719 #14. Nate Dogg & Warren G - Regulate - 714 #15. Ed Sheeran - Afterglow - 710 #16. Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - 687 #17. Morgan Wallen - Somebody’s Problem - 681 #18. AJR - Bang! - 647 #19. Louis Tomlinson - Defenceless - 618 #20. Morgan Wallen - This Bar - 611 A total of 5,063 sales in one day (just whats in the top 20 and just singles lmao). Wallen was doing fine, better than he had ever done before. Your idea of cancel culture isn't real. |
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Post by gikem on Jun 7, 2021 12:26:37 GMT -5
^Lol, I forgot all that happened around the time Tom MacDonald was ruling iTunes en route to his first Hot 100 entry. That was a rough time to follow that platform.
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Post by shaz196 on Jun 7, 2021 12:32:38 GMT -5
Lorde is finally dropping music again!
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 7, 2021 12:40:47 GMT -5
I really like that a rich celebrity making fractionally less money than usual is considered suffering.
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Post by Groovy on Jun 7, 2021 12:42:36 GMT -5
^Lol, I forgot all that happened around the time Tom MacDonald was ruling iTunes en route to his first Hot 100 entry. That was a rough time to follow that platform. And it's happening all over again today. |
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Post by tanooki on Jun 7, 2021 12:42:46 GMT -5
I really like that a rich celebrity making fractionally less money than usual is considered suffering. Morgan Wallen definitely made more money after the controversy than before |
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Post by ontopofthis on Jun 7, 2021 13:56:31 GMT -5
Reaching number one on iTunes is nothing special nowadays when that is the equivalent of a 1,000 or so sales
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 7, 2021 14:40:15 GMT -5
Cuz you know it’s true lol there's no such thing as a woke mob or cancel culture or whatever the f**k, Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word and his punishment was getting the #1 album of 2021 so far ( #1 by a pretty good margin, too). All there is are people suffering the consequences of their actions and they don't even get punished half the time (those sales for Morgan Wallen were INSANE). In fact, here's the iTunes US estimate for Feb. 4, 2021: #1. Morgan Wallen - More Than My Hometown - 2,515 #2. Tom MacDonald - Fake Woke - 2,212 #3. Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You - 2,074 #4. Morgan Wallen - Whiskey Glasses - 1,890 #5. Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers - 1,624 #6. Morgan Wallen - Sand In My Boots - 1,561 #7. Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license - 1,185 #8. Morgan Wallen - Chasin' You - 1,169 #9. Justin Bieber - Anyone - 987 #10. Morgan Wallen - Up Down (feat. Florida Georgia Line) - 930 #11. The Weeknd - Blinding Lights - 914 #12. CJ - Whoopty - 837 #13. Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) - 719 #14. Nate Dogg & Warren G - Regulate - 714 #15. Ed Sheeran - Afterglow - 710 #16. Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - 687 #17. Morgan Wallen - Somebody’s Problem - 681 #18. AJR - Bang! - 647 #19. Louis Tomlinson - Defenceless - 618 #20. Morgan Wallen - This Bar - 611 A total of 5,063 sales in one day (just whats in the top 20 and just singles lmao). Wallen was doing fine, better than he had ever done before. Your idea of cancel culture isn't real. It may be exaggerated often but of course it exists lol. Morgan is a failed cancellation but they for sure tried. |
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Post by Groovy on Jun 7, 2021 15:12:56 GMT -5
Lorde’s comeback number 1 hit confirmed for July 3rd.
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Post by degen on Jun 7, 2021 15:37:56 GMT -5
This is going to be as useless as Life is good Remix. I like the remix better than the original, but I (mostly) agree from a pure chart perspective. It reminds me of the 90s r&b/hip-hop remixes where the main artist would be reduced to hook singer on their own song, and several rappers would hop on in place of the verses. Pop isn't going to touch this and Justin fans aren't going to gravitate to it since he's not on it nearly as much. This could maybe do something for him on urban/r&b airplay though (where he's currently stalled in the teens), either a new peak or at least an extended run there. Depends on how much that matters to him or his label. If there’s any remix to not be mad about it’s this one. The song already hit #1, so at least this doesn’t feel like a cheap chart trick. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 7, 2021 16:33:49 GMT -5
So far for BTS:
H100 #1s 4
Streaming #1s 0 (or even #2)
That's definitely a feat.
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Post by tanooki on Jun 7, 2021 18:41:49 GMT -5
there's no such thing as a woke mob or cancel culture or whatever the f**k, Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word and his punishment was getting the #1 album of 2021 so far ( #1 by a pretty good margin, too). All there is are people suffering the consequences of their actions and they don't even get punished half the time (those sales for Morgan Wallen were INSANE). In fact, here's the iTunes US estimate for Feb. 4, 2021: #1. Morgan Wallen - More Than My Hometown - 2,515 #2. Tom MacDonald - Fake Woke - 2,212 #3. Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You - 2,074 #4. Morgan Wallen - Whiskey Glasses - 1,890 #5. Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers - 1,624 #6. Morgan Wallen - Sand In My Boots - 1,561 #7. Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license - 1,185 #8. Morgan Wallen - Chasin' You - 1,169 #9. Justin Bieber - Anyone - 987 #10. Morgan Wallen - Up Down (feat. Florida Georgia Line) - 930 #11. The Weeknd - Blinding Lights - 914 #12. CJ - Whoopty - 837 #13. Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) - 719 #14. Nate Dogg & Warren G - Regulate - 714 #15. Ed Sheeran - Afterglow - 710 #16. Salt-N-Pepa - Push It - 687 #17. Morgan Wallen - Somebody’s Problem - 681 #18. AJR - Bang! - 647 #19. Louis Tomlinson - Defenceless - 618 #20. Morgan Wallen - This Bar - 611 A total of 5,063 sales in one day (just whats in the top 20 and just singles lmao). Wallen was doing fine, better than he had ever done before. Your idea of cancel culture isn't real. It may be exaggerated often but of course it exists lol. Morgan is a failed cancellation but they for sure tried. how does it exist then. tell me. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 7, 2021 19:01:57 GMT -5
You gave the answer yourself: "Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word" - that is cancelling.
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Post by lazer on Jun 7, 2021 20:04:44 GMT -5
LMAO we went from BTS stans to Morgan Wallen. I love you Pulse.
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 7, 2021 20:15:30 GMT -5
You gave the answer yourself: "Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word" - that is cancelling. I relate cancelling with a career that is destroyed. He was basically reprimanded. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 7, 2021 20:32:31 GMT -5
If his album wasn’t the biggest of the year even before the incident. He would have been gone longer.
People like the music obviously so the demand is there. From a label and radio standpoint, Money talks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 20:46:12 GMT -5
I thought we learned from Trump what happens when we excuse certain demographics bad behavior and pacify their bulls**t and racism but then again some of yall fit the Trump voter profile never mind.
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Post by jthentic on Jun 7, 2021 21:09:46 GMT -5
^Lol, I forgot all that happened around the time Tom MacDonald was ruling iTunes en route to his first Hot 100 entry. That was a rough time to follow that platform. I guess u haven't been been following the platform 😂😂😂. He's another trash dis week projected to do 22k |
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Post by gikem on Jun 7, 2021 21:13:56 GMT -5
^Lol, I forgot all that happened around the time Tom MacDonald was ruling iTunes en route to his first Hot 100 entry. That was a rough time to follow that platform. U haven't been been following the platform I see 😂😂😂. He's another trash dis week projected to do 22k I absolutely have been following it for a while, and yes, I'm aware he has another song topping iTunes right now. I was referring more to the lethal combination of Tom MacDonald's first "smash" and all the Morgan Wallen tracks rising after the incident back in early February of this year. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 7, 2021 21:39:52 GMT -5
You gave the answer yourself: "Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word" - that is cancelling. So wanting people to be punished and held accountable for the shitty things they do is "cancelling" them 🙄🙄🙄 |
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