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Post by tanooki on Jun 7, 2021 22:24:12 GMT -5
You gave the answer yourself: "Morgan Wallen got temporarily pulled from radio for saying the N word" - that is cancelling. i guess? the word cancel to refer to stuff like contracts being pulled is really fucking stupid but how is this a bad thing i also wanna know what the fuck "woke" means, who is the woke mob lol
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 7, 2021 22:35:44 GMT -5
We are the woke mob, whether you view that as a good or a bad thing. And yes, to the commenter earlier, desiring that people be held accountable for their bad deeds and to suffer some sort of punishment for their misdeeds is what is meant by canceling them. What differs is what deeds are viewed as bad ones that are worthy of negative career repercussions. Again, this is viewed from the outside. From the inside, one is simply seeking to enforce some sort of standards of decency or seek justice. It is remarkable just how often our messy conversations in here relate to differences from how things look on the inside to how they appear from the outside, whether that be stan culture, appreciation of genres, or our occasional forays into artists we wish would disappear.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 7, 2021 22:56:35 GMT -5
We are the woke mob, whether you view that as a good or a bad thing. And yes, to the commenter earlier, desiring that people be held accountable for their bad deeds and to suffer some sort of punishment for their misdeeds is what is meant by canceling them. What differs is what deeds are viewed as bad ones that are worthy of negative career repercussions. Again, this is viewed from the outside. From the inside, one is simply seeking to enforce some sort of standards of decency or seek justice. I legit have no idea what you're talking about when saying stuff like "viewed from the outside". So...are you trying to say people who do the indefensible act of calling others the n-word with a hard r shouldn't be reprimanded? I am so confused
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Post by After Minutes on Jun 7, 2021 23:22:16 GMT -5
In a sense I don't really see anything long with cancelling people as long as it isn't permanent/irreversible and/or borderline bullying. It doesn't have to change the given person's actual situation, generally speaking, more often than not it is people informing others about somebody's appalling behaviour, and that's concrete information. The given person can defend themselves and if they are, in fact, innocent, then nobody should have a problem with what a small group of easily-offended people says. On the other hand, if they are guilty, then everyone has the right to decide what's moral for them and keep supporting that person or not. If that person changes, then the fans have the right to go back to supporting them, but they may also choose not to - and both options are fine.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 7, 2021 23:40:39 GMT -5
Anyway, goals this week are to ignore Morgan Wallen and stream telepatia
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 8, 2021 0:11:24 GMT -5
^ I wouldn't say that for myself personally, but I think it's clear that others do think exactly that. They just don't happen to be here.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jun 8, 2021 1:28:43 GMT -5
THIS IS THE FUTURE THAT CANCEL CULTURE WANTS
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Post by Henry SuΓ‘rez on Jun 8, 2021 1:40:28 GMT -5
This discussion is so stupid and pointless, can we get back to chart stuff?!
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Post by tanooki on Jun 8, 2021 1:45:16 GMT -5
This discussion is so stupid and pointless, can we get back to chart stuff?! discord.gg/talkofthecharts
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 8, 2021 2:02:35 GMT -5
Morgan Wallen is a racist, end of discussion.
Because he is a white male artist with a fanbase, industry will not care, end of discussion.
We can move on.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jun 8, 2021 2:35:47 GMT -5
Anyway...Tones And I has a new single coming this week, and she has announced an upcoming album:
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Post by kimberly on Jun 8, 2021 2:52:53 GMT -5
Anyway...Tones And I has a new single coming this week, and she has announced an upcoming album: now why would they ratio her under this π©πππ
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 8, 2021 3:13:14 GMT -5
Twitter is full of nothing but cyberbullies change my mind
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Jun 8, 2021 3:54:49 GMT -5
Twitter is full of nothing but cyberbullies change my mind everyone is so mean to her on social media, it just sucks I remember her saying she started battling bad depression following her global success, saying βthe relentless bullying that follows every proud moment tears my mind in twoβ and βin the dark times of death threats and very harsh judgements from strangers I have never met, I have decided to push past it and show any artist that you can get through it maintain your sense of self. Even though I donβt see an end in sight, this is how I will live my life now.β β¦. ππ
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Post by iamsorare on Jun 8, 2021 4:03:56 GMT -5
Morgan Wallen -racist or not- is successful and his album is still selling well, people like him and radio will start playing his songs again...the members here just giving him more attention...end of story
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 8, 2021 4:04:41 GMT -5
Considering that Dance Monkey was a song about the cynicism of being an artist with a smash hit before she had one, it is perhaps unsurprising that she would find fame so unfulfilling. People are really nasty and mean, though, even if artists who point it out tend to suffer even more abuse as a result for being thin-skinned about it.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 8, 2021 4:11:50 GMT -5
Twitter is full of nothing but cyberbullies change my mind everyone is so mean to her on social media, it just sucks I remember her saying she started battling bad depression following her global success, saying βthe relentless bullying that follows every proud moment tears my mind in twoβ and βin the dark times of death threats and very harsh judgements from strangers I have never met, I have decided to push past it and show any artist that you can get through it maintain your sense of self. Even though I donβt see an end in sight, this is how I will live my life now.β β¦. ππ That is so depressing to see :/
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 8, 2021 4:23:21 GMT -5
Morgan Wallen -racist or not- is successful and his album is still selling well, people like him and radio will start playing his songs again...the members here just giving him more attention...end of story Correction: Morgan Wallen is a racist and saw a huge spike of album sales due to fellow racists spamming his material to "counteract cancel culture." Not to mention the amount of people who don't care just continuing to support him anyway. Racists like him because they identify with him and radio will probably not play him for a long time until the amount of people who know he is racist decreases. Him being racist, racists existing in mass numbers, and people who just don't care are responsible for his continued success of sales and steams. End of the real story. I can also say with 99.9% certainty that this board has absolutely nothing to do with him getting attention. The ~100 active members here don't have any impact large enough to be seen on the Billboard 200.
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Post by Push The Button on Jun 8, 2021 5:56:26 GMT -5
Twitter is full of nothing but cyberbullies change my mind I find it so interesting that we are currently examining the media landscape of the 2000s in the wake of the Framing Britney Spears documentary. Everyone seems to be under the impression that we as a society are better than we were when Britney was at the peak of her fame. That is absolutely not true. The vitriol just moved to social media.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 8, 2021 6:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 8, 2021 6:16:08 GMT -5
I mean if y'all want to support a Morgan W. in country music but who isn't racist (is pretty progressive judging by some of her tweets) and is making some of the best country music right now, you could always give this a try.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 8, 2021 6:31:57 GMT -5
Anyways, please stream Yonaguni. I promise you this is way better than telepatia, and I could even see it challenging Butter and Good 4 u for #1 down the line:
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Post by gikem on Jun 8, 2021 6:41:29 GMT -5
Based on this weekβs Hot 100 and the coming album bomb, we can expect Hell of a View, On Me, and Goosebumps to exit this week. The Good Ones and What You Know Bout Love will be close, but not quite gone just yet.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 8, 2021 6:52:51 GMT -5
Based on this weekβs Hot 100 and the coming album bomb, we can expect Hell of a View, On Me, and Goosebumps to exit this week. The Good Ones and What You Know Bout Love will be close, but not quite gone just yet. What about Wasted On You? Do you think it is going to fall off this week, or will it eek out a 20th week (at 99 or 100) before Polo G puts it to recurrency?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 8, 2021 6:54:14 GMT -5
Anyways, please stream Yonaguni. I promise you this is way better than telepatia, and I could even see it challenging Butter and Good 4 u for #1 down the line: why not stream both? we get it, u don't like telepatia for some reason.
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Post by Groovy on Jun 8, 2021 7:17:53 GMT -5
Yonaguni is alright but he definitely has better songs.
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Post by gikem on Jun 8, 2021 7:23:16 GMT -5
Based on this weekβs Hot 100 and the coming album bomb, we can expect Hell of a View, On Me, and Goosebumps to exit this week. The Good Ones and What You Know Bout Love will be close, but not quite gone just yet. What about Wasted On You? Do you think it is going to fall off this week, or will it eek out a 20th week (at 99 or 100) before Polo G puts it to recurrency? Weβll have to see if it stays on next week. However, I can see it getting a 20th week regardless, even if itβs after all those album bombs fade.
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Post by jeiboy on Jun 8, 2021 7:23:32 GMT -5
Olivia's album increased in US Spotify lol
All tracks still Top 21. It's now on its 3rd week
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Post by firefox on Jun 8, 2021 7:28:14 GMT -5
Yonaguni is alright but he definitely has better songs. I really liked DAKITI. I don't even understand the lyrics but it's one of my favorite songs this year. Breaking the barriers of language... even if you don't understand the lyrics, but you know it's a good song.
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Post by Groovy on Jun 8, 2021 7:36:37 GMT -5
Yonaguni is alright but he definitely has better songs. I really liked DAKITI. I don't even understand the lyrics but it's one of my favorite songs this year. Breaking the barriers of language... even if you don't understand the lyrics, but you know it's a good song. And thatβs not even the best song off the album, YO VISTO ASI, LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE, MALDITA POBREZA, BOOKER T and LA DROGA are all amazing tracks off that album.
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