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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 1, 2021 9:56:35 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Jul 1, 2021 10:10:38 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 1, 2021 10:20:56 GMT -5
Pandora streams haven't really been a huge indicator for the hot 100 success like Apple and Spotify have been recently. It doesn’t matter, they’re still used and measured by Billboard. The question was about relevance, not use. |
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Post by Groovy on Jul 1, 2021 10:34:22 GMT -5
It doesn’t matter, they’re still used and measured by Billboard. The question was about relevance, not use. And my point was about use, not relevance. |
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Post by Groovy on Jul 1, 2021 10:35:43 GMT -5
I don’t think anybody noted this but this week was the first week that a song from SOUR dropped out of the Hot 100 with 1 step forwards, 3 steps back exiting.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 1, 2021 10:39:16 GMT -5
I don’t think anybody noted this but this week was the first week that a song from SOUR dropped out of the Hot 100 with 1 step forwards, 3 steps back exiting. hope ur ok dropped out the week before |
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Post by Groovy on Jul 1, 2021 10:50:20 GMT -5
I don’t think anybody noted this but this week was the first week that a song from SOUR dropped out of the Hot 100 with 1 step forwards, 3 steps back exiting. hope ur ok dropped out the week before I didn’t peep it was gone. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 1, 2021 12:09:29 GMT -5
I think it got mentioned; I remember seeing something about it at least, but it would be hard to say exactly where because it was just a little blip in the usual discussion.
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Post by musicbuff26 on Jul 1, 2021 12:50:04 GMT -5
This whole thing reminds me of when Harlem Shake had some crazy big weeks at #1 despite very clearly not being the number one song in the country. (A YouTube craze with 30 second videos is not equal to being the biggest song if no one listens to the song in full) I think that song blocked “Thrift Shop” from quite a few extra weeks at #1 too.
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Post by mms82 on Jul 1, 2021 12:52:36 GMT -5
I'll be glad when this discussion thread is closed, although I have no doubt the lingering issue will continue until Butter is no longer #1 ... The more I look at it, I'm amazed at how the Lil Baby/Lil Durk album chart thread (6/19) only got to 21 pages. Either we skipped over the issue that week, the album had very little impact, or a combination of both. I mean, we had 2 weeks (6/12 and this week) that had nothing going for it, and we still got into the upper 20s of pages. what are the updated thread stats? |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 1, 2021 12:54:39 GMT -5
This whole thing reminds me of when Harlem Shake had some crazy big weeks at #1 despite very clearly not being the number one song in the country. (A YouTube craze with 30 second videos is not equal to being the biggest song if no one listens to the song in full) I think that song blocked “Thrift Shop” from quite a few extra weeks at #1 too. And don’t forget the One More Night/Gangnam Style fiasco just before that. One More Night got the weeks at #1, even though it felt GS was the bigger song. |
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Post by musicbuff26 on Jul 1, 2021 12:59:26 GMT -5
This whole thing reminds me of when Harlem Shake had some crazy big weeks at #1 despite very clearly not being the number one song in the country. (A YouTube craze with 30 second videos is not equal to being the biggest song if no one listens to the song in full) I think that song blocked “Thrift Shop” from quite a few extra weeks at #1 too. And don’t forget the One More Night/Gangnam Style fiasco just before that. One More Night got the weeks at #1, even though it felt GS was the bigger song. What was the reason that GS missed it? I was following the charts then but don’t remember. Was it before YouTube counted or something? |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 1, 2021 13:20:20 GMT -5
And don’t forget the One More Night/Gangnam Style fiasco just before that. One More Night got the weeks at #1, even though it felt GS was the bigger song. What was the reason that GS missed it? I was following the charts then but don’t remember. Was it before YouTube counted or something? GS didn’t get #1 because streaming wasn’t included in the Hot 100 formula at the time, iirc. |
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Post by Clode on Jul 1, 2021 13:40:02 GMT -5
Had streaming been included in the Hot 100 Formula back in 2012, "Gangnam Style" would have probably ended up spending double digit weeks at #1. So yeah it just ran into really bad timing. We should be glad that streaming started counting for the Hot 100 in 2013 or else the BTS Army would probably have wanted to mass buy "Butter" until they could break PSY's record of most weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 for a K-Pop song. So yeah we all got lucky in that regard.
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Post by fridayteenage on Jul 1, 2021 14:11:19 GMT -5
Per wiki, streaming WAS counted starting March 2012.
Gangnam was #1 in sales and streams a bunch.
But Youtube was not, so Night's radio got to overpower that.
The last time a song doubled atop Streaming/Sales, but never made it to #1 overall was Cold Water, blocked by radio superpower Cheap Thrills.
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Post by Gary on Jul 1, 2021 14:37:35 GMT -5
Gangnam Style was #1 streaming for 6 weeks and sales for 6 weeks
Different weeks though
Streaming around June 2013
Digital around November 2012
1st streaming chart was January 2013 (4 months after this song was released)
For the Blinding Lights fan in the audience, Gangnam Style stayed on the streaming chart for a still record 122 weeks even still
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 1, 2021 14:41:43 GMT -5
The more I look at it, I'm amazed at how the Lil Baby/Lil Durk album chart thread (6/19) only got to 21 pages. Either we skipped over the issue that week, the album had very little impact, or a combination of both. I mean, we had 2 weeks (6/12 and this week) that had nothing going for it, and we still got into the upper 20s of pages. what are the updated thread stats? From page 13 (credit to Mayman for original list): Updated list: 1. 58 pages - 05/23/2020 (#1: Stuck with U) 2. 57 pages - 05/22/2021 (#1: Leave the Door Open) 3. 54 pages - 05/16/2020 (#1: Say So) 4. 50 pages - 06/05/2021 (#1: Butter) 5. 46 pages - 12/21/2019 (#1: All I Want For Christmas Is You) 6. 38 pages - 01/18/2020 (#1: The Box) 7. 37 pages - 04/04/2020 (#1: Blinding Lights) 8. 37 pages - 04/18/2020 (#1: Toosie Slide) 9. 37 pages - 06/27/2020 (#1: Trollz) 10. 34 pages - 01/25/2020 (#1: The Box) 11. 33 pages - 01/23/2021 (#1: Drivers License) 12. 33 pages - 06/26/2021 (#1: Butter... but we all know it should be Good 4 u?) 13. 32 pages - 12/26/2020 (#1: Willow) 14. 32 pages - 05/29/2021 (#1: Good 4 u) 15. 31 pages - 05/11/2019 (#1: Old Town Road) 16. 31 pages - 08/15/2020 (#1: Watermelon Sugar) Honorable Mention: 17. 30 pages - 10/24/2009 (#1: 3) 18. 30 pages - 03/21/2020 (#1: The Box) 19. 30 pages - 01/09/2021 (#1: Mood) 20. 30 pages - 04/10/2021 (#1: Montero) 21. 30 pages - 01/16/2021 (#1: Mood - dey's argument about Olivia's proper debut single) Last 6 weeks: 5/22/2021 - 57 pages (LTDO/Levitating fiasco) 5/29/2021 - 32 pages (Good 4 u debuts #1/J Cole album) 6/5/2021 - 50 pages (Butter debuts #1/SOUR) 6/12/2021 - 29 pages 6/19/2021 - 21 pages (Lil Baby/Lil Durk album bust) 6/26/2021 - 33 pages (continued Butter/Good 4 u controversy, multiple album flops) (7/3/2021 - 28 pages) |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 1, 2021 16:15:06 GMT -5
There's still a few hours time to get this properly to something close to 30 pages. What a mess this summer has been so far.
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Post by Groovy on Jul 1, 2021 16:39:06 GMT -5
what are the updated thread stats? 21. 30 pages - 01/16/2021 (#1: Mood - dey's argument about Olivia's proper debut single. I forgot about that idiot, all this dude did was bait people and shit stir and then play the victim when people called him out on it. |
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Post by mms82 on Jul 1, 2021 17:40:01 GMT -5
what are the updated thread stats? From page 13 (credit to Mayman for original list): Updated list: 1. 58 pages - 05/23/2020 (#1: Stuck with U) 2. 57 pages - 05/22/2021 (#1: Leave the Door Open) 3. 54 pages - 05/16/2020 (#1: Say So) 4. 50 pages - 06/05/2021 (#1: Butter) 5. 46 pages - 12/21/2019 (#1: All I Want For Christmas Is You) 6. 38 pages - 01/18/2020 (#1: The Box) 7. 37 pages - 04/04/2020 (#1: Blinding Lights) 8. 37 pages - 04/18/2020 (#1: Toosie Slide) 9. 37 pages - 06/27/2020 (#1: Trollz) 10. 34 pages - 01/25/2020 (#1: The Box) 11. 33 pages - 01/23/2021 (#1: Drivers License) 12. 33 pages - 06/26/2021 (#1: Butter... but we all know it should be Good 4 u?) 13. 32 pages - 12/26/2020 (#1: Willow) 14. 32 pages - 05/29/2021 (#1: Good 4 u) 15. 31 pages - 05/11/2019 (#1: Old Town Road) 16. 31 pages - 08/15/2020 (#1: Watermelon Sugar) Honorable Mention: 17. 30 pages - 10/24/2009 (#1: 3) 18. 30 pages - 03/21/2020 (#1: The Box) 19. 30 pages - 01/09/2021 (#1: Mood) 20. 30 pages - 04/10/2021 (#1: Montero) 21. 30 pages - 01/16/2021 (#1: Mood - dey's argument about Olivia's proper debut single) Last 6 weeks: 5/22/2021 - 57 pages (LTDO/Levitating fiasco) 5/29/2021 - 32 pages (Good 4 u debuts #1/J Cole album) 6/5/2021 - 50 pages (Butter debuts #1/SOUR) 6/12/2021 - 29 pages 6/19/2021 - 21 pages (Lil Baby/Lil Durk album bust) 6/26/2021 - 33 pages (continued Butter/Good 4 u controversy, multiple album flops) (7/3/2021 - 28 pages)Does anybody remember the 3 thread? That had to be particularly crazy to hold the record for a decade |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 1, 2021 17:50:22 GMT -5
That was way before my time but it must have been good.
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