Billboard Hot 100: 07/03/2021

[gikem]

Jun 18, 2021 18:26:38 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

Jun 18, 2021 17:26:42 GMT -5 gikem said:

People often forget that Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone, and Hate It or Love It, all of which are great songs, were blocked from going to #1 by the same awful song, that being Candy Shop.

Do they really often forget though? I feel like I see that fact posted once per month in various places

Most people I see mentioning that fact usually only talk about BOBD getting blocked and not SUBG and HIOLI.

[nathanalbright]

I personally think SUBG is a great song, but I guess people don't feel bad about Kelly Clarkson having one fewer #1?

[phieaglesfan712]

Boulevard of Broken Dreams and Hate It or Love It were good, but I could never stand Since U Been Gone. I though Behind These Hazel Eyes was better than SUBG.

[gikem]

Jun 18, 2021 19:55:09 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

I personally think SUBG is a great song, but I guess people don't feel bad about Kelly Clarkson having one fewer #1?

I guess what baffles me is that Kelly's debut era had a #1 hit, the two albums she put out after My December each had a #1 hit, and yet the Breakaway era, her most successful period to date containing the singles we remember the most from her catalog, didn't have any #1's, despite spawning plenty of long-lasting hits. I could blame the title track's sleeper run delaying SUBG's release as a single until around the time of the album release in late 2004, but really, I'm just mad that 50 Cent had to be as undeservedly huge as he was at the time, and that Candy Shop was ever pushed as a single, let alone became a massive hit for him.

[nathanalbright]

Jun 18, 2021 20:25:26 GMT -5 gikem said:

Jun 18, 2021 19:55:09 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

I personally think SUBG is a great song, but I guess people don't feel bad about Kelly Clarkson having one fewer #1?

I guess what baffles me is that Kelly's debut era had a #1 hit, the two albums she put out after My December each had a #1 hit, and yet the Breakaway era, her most successful period to date containing the singles we remember the most from her catalog, didn't have any #1's, despite spawning plenty of long-lasting hits. I could blame the title track's sleeper run delaying SUBG's release as a single until around the time of the album release in late 2004, but really, I'm just mad that 50 Cent had to be as undeservedly huge as he was at the time, and that Candy Shop was ever pushed as a single, let alone became a massive hit for him.

Candy Shop is easy to be mad at, so that makes sense.

[Enigma.]

Jun 18, 2021 12:19:59 GMT -5 @antigonerising said:

Jun 18, 2021 0:41:05 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

The H.E.R. album came out of nowhere? Or were we too busy discussing Billboard and baking ingredients?

Not sure why no one actually answered this (well, other than not many H.E.R. fans in here apparently), but yeah, she announced it was coming literally just last week. So it is understandable that almost no one in here knew about it bc she isn't the kind of artist who can pull off a quick-release like that.

Thanks, must take a listen later this week. But yeah, not sure if that's a good strategy.

[jthentic]

Just saw 1st day Spotify nos of da new tracks, don't think there'll be much noise (possible entry for Dababy, 1/2 tracks from H.E.R)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 06/18/21

1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 2,394,726 (+32,131)
2(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,389,276 (+36,834)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 1,274,896 (-239)
4(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,213,178 (+32,329)
5(=) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 1,150,975 (-29,820)
6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,093,007 (+46,457)
7(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,046,588 (+29,873)
8(=) Drake - Wants and Needs 954,137 (+9,474)
9(+1) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 910,763 (+15,459)
10(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 897,084 (-5,480)

Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR
11(=) happier 889,452 (-5,370)
13(=) brutal 838,666 (-4,353)
16(-1) drivers license 806,371 (-4,271)
19(+3) jealousy, jealousy 687,979 (-2,474)
28(-3) enough for you 610,914 (-18,013)
32(-2) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 537,273 (-11,096)
46(-2) hope ur ok 459,307 (-10,488)
Total Streams: 10,547,643

Others:
12(=) Tyler, The Creator - LUMBERJACK 846,424 (-9,228)
14(+2) Justin Bieber - Peaches 825,714 (+39,455)
15(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 824,406 (+5,142)
17(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 744,031 (+43,948)
18(-1) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 703,938 (-2,284)
20(=) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 687,502 (-4,921)
21(=) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 664,917 (-26,136)
22(debut) DaBaby - Ball If I Want To 655,719
23(+1) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 653,282 (+7,620)
24(+4) Migos - Having Our Way 636,976 (+69,299)
25(-7) Doja Cat - Need to Know 635,849 (-69,369)
26(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 632,547 (+20,614)
27(-4) BTS - Butter 621,538 (-37,439)
29(-2) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 552,121 (-16,558)
30(+2) Saweetie - Best Friend 547,819 (+7,568)
31(+11) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 546,256 (+47,691)
33(-2) Cardi B - Up 533,885 (-8,974)
35(=) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 525,886 (+9,475)
36(+1) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 510,542 (-3,713)
37(-1) Cochise, $NOT - Tell Em 504,980 (-10,107)
38(=) Kali Uchis - telepatía 494,955 (-13,651)
39(+4) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 487,419 (+8,880)
40(-7) Lorde - Solar Power 486,745 (-50,382)
41(-12) Polo G - No Return 481,544 (-67,609)
42(-3) Polo G - GANG GANG 477,560 (-29,818)
43(-9) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 471,608 (-48,516)
44(+1) Luke Combs - Forever After All 468,989 (+10,770)
45(-5) Billie Eilish - Lost Cause 464,365 (-40,274)
48(-1) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 445,044 (-4,486)
50(-4) Migos - Straightenin 436,498 (-13,275)
53(debut) Don Toliver - Drugs N Hella Melodies 417,897
55(-3) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 415,072 (+9,043)
58(=) Lil Tecca - Never Left 405,628 (+15,462)
59(+38) Migos - Modern Day 293,389 (+111,491)
61(-8) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 401,185 (-2,412)
62(+20) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 400,457 (+84,736)
64(-7) Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet 391,157 (-1,709)
65(debut) Tate McRae, Khalid - working 388,129
68(-9) Bo Burnham - All Eyes On Me 372,787 (-14,377)
69(-7) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 367,432 (-11,282)
71(-7) Surf Curse - Freaks 364,796 (+1,139)
74(debut) Isaiah Rashad - Headshots (4r Da Locals) 347,137
75(-3) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 345,171 (+11,806)
76(+14) Joyner Lucas, Lil Baby - Ramen & OJ 344,108 (+38,008)
77(-3) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 340,955 (+12,582)
82(-1) Interney Money - His & Hers 332,242 (+13,735)
87(-4) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 323,409 (+8,106)
92(-24) Polo G - Black Hearted 313,108 (-31,575)
98(+5) Trinidad Cardona - Dinero 303,518 (+17,353)

105(-16) Bo Burnham - Look Who's Inside Again 292,824 (-14,190)
108(+5) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 282,991 (+10,544)
110(+17) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 279,413 (+21,785)
112(debut) Logic - Intro 279,208
113(-11) Matt Maltese - As the World Caves In 278,078 (-10,719)
116(-16) Migos - Avalanche 274,738 (-16,557)
118(-11) StarBoi3 - Dick 273,315 (-6,937)
125(-15) Bo Burnham - Shit 265,370 (-10,084)
129(-4) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 261,654 (+217)
130(-31) Kelsea Ballerini, LANY - I Quit Drinking 261,382 (-30,928)
131(-7) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 260,153 (-1,972)
134(+39) Riton, Nightcrawlers - Friday 254,862 (+28,796)
136(debut) Wale - Angles 252,918
138(-26) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 252,005 (-21,755)
146(-18) Bo Burnham - Goodbye 247,609 (-9,706)
148(+33) Kayla Nicole - Bundles 247,419 (+25,329)
149(-35) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 246,608 (-25,670)
151(-42) Billie Eilish - Your Power 244,814 (-30,938)
160(debut) Wisin, Jhay Cortez, Anuel AA, Los Legendarios, Myke Towers - Fiel Remix 239,529
169(-8) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 233,970 (+2,617)
170(+17) Sarah Cothran - As the World Caves In 233,195 (+12,398)
172(-36) Galantis - Heartbreak Anthem 232,975 (-18,008)

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 955,956

Biggest Gains (50K+): Hats Off, Modern Day, Having Our Way

[After Minutes]

Vince Staples debuts at #194 of the spotify charts with "Law of averages". I believe that that's his first song charting on spotify, so that's good news. I could totally see the chorus catching on in tiktoks (though I know just how terrible my track record with guessing new trends happens to be) but we'll see. Nonetheless, I think that Vince might finally get a top 10 album on the 200

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 19, 2021 7:50:05 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Vince Staples debuts at #194 of the spotify charts with "Law of averages". I believe that that's his first song charting on spotify, so that's good news. I could totally see the chorus catching on in tiktoks (though I know just how terrible my track record with guessing new trends happens to be) but we'll see. Nonetheless, I think that Vince might finally get a top 10 album on the 200

Wouldn't the song he did for Black Panther count as his first? (I wasn't tracking Spotify then but Black Panther got a decent album bomb so I assume his track was streamed)

[After Minutes]

Jun 19, 2021 8:10:09 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Jun 19, 2021 7:50:05 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Vince Staples debuts at #194 of the spotify charts with "Law of averages". I believe that that's his first song charting on spotify, so that's good news. I could totally see the chorus catching on in tiktoks (though I know just how terrible my track record with guessing new trends happens to be) but we'll see. Nonetheless, I think that Vince might finally get a top 10 album on the 200

Wouldn't the song he did for Black Panther count as his first? (I wasn't tracking Spotify then but Black Panther got a decent album bomb so I assume his track was streamed)

You're right, it debuted at #25 (which would, if repeated today, put it above the likes of Megan Thee Stallion), nonetheless it got there mostly, if not exclusively due to the album performing so well

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Butter already down to #160 at Apple Music ...

[iggyamo]

Jun 19, 2021 10:19:36 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Butter already down to #160 at Apple Music ...

Transparent Soul is above it on everything except YouTube as far as streaming goes and it isn’t even on the charts yet.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 19, 2021 10:19:36 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Butter already down to #160 at Apple Music ...

Blinding Lights made its debut on the Hot 100 in December 2019, and it has been above Butter on Apple Music since June 8. Let that sink in for a moment.

[jred]

Jun 19, 2021 10:19:36 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Butter already down to #160 at Apple Music ...

And yet, supposedly, it’s just as if not more popular than Good 4 U according to Billboard.

[Gary]

Billboard actually agrees that Good 4 U is streamed more than Butter

#1 vs #19 on the last chart

[Mayman]

Jun 19, 2021 11:23:09 GMT -5 Gary said:

Billboard actually agrees that Good 4 U is streamed more than Butter

#1 vs #19 on the last chart

Why are you so dense?

[gs]

Jun 19, 2021 11:16:38 GMT -5 jred said:

Jun 19, 2021 10:19:36 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Butter already down to #160 at Apple Music ...

And yet, supposedly, it’s just as if not more popular than Good 4 U according to Billboard.

I wish more people would realize that Billboard's formula gives sales twice as much weight as it should relative to singles consumption (and/or their Billboard 200 TEA formula). With sales representing actual equivalent streams, Butter was #3 last week

[Enigma.]

Awful debut for Khalid/Tate as expected. Will not even chart this week without huge airplay support.

[Groovy]

I guess this discussion is not gonna die.

[Deleted]

Jun 18, 2021 18:26:38 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

Jun 18, 2021 17:26:42 GMT -5 gikem said:

People often forget that Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Since U Been Gone, and Hate It or Love It, all of which are great songs, were blocked from going to #1 by the same awful song, that being Candy Shop.

Do they really often forget though? I feel like I see that fact posted once per month in various places

I see BOBD and SUBG mentioned for this a lot, but I don't think I ever see anyone bring up HIOLI (probably bc someone who doesn't like that Candy Shop blocked two big rock/pop hits couldn't care less that 50 also blocked a rap song that he was featured on).

The perception of SUBG as a 'robbed' #2 is somewhat revisionist history, though. At the time, fans were actually excited about that peak because no one was expecting Kelly to get that high, especially that late into the single's run (I think it was four months in). In SUBG's CHR thread here the posters were just elated to see her at #1 on pop so hitting #2 on the Hot 100 for one week was a bonus celebration. The longevity of her singles is what was running the album sales up and I think that's what the fans cared about the most.

It was around the early 2010s when talk about 'unfair' #2 peaks started becoming more commonplace and SUBG would get thrown into that category, but that says more about how well it held up over time combined with how poorly Candy Shop aged (when #1 hits age well, people tend to complain a lot less about the songs they blocked, e.g. almost no one complains about any of the songs We Belong Together blocked that same year) than it does about anyone thinking it was unfair in 2005.

[nathanalbright]

I agree with you. Similarly, and more recently, we don't get upset that OTR blocked a lot of mediocre #2 peak songs like Me! and I Don't Care because the songs that were blocked weren't very good and OTR was a genuinely massive cultural moment. On the other hand, when a #1 song gets consigned to oblivion or ridicule, the songs tht it kept from the top spot are viewed with considerably more retrospective sympathy. And this is above and beyond any cases like with Andy Gibb and Gerry Rafferty that a song is kept from the top spot by actual corrupt shenanigans, where actual injustice is involved.

[gikem]

Jun 19, 2021 11:30:26 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Awful debut for Khalid/Tate as expected. Will not even chart this week without huge airplay support.

To be fair, it did better than I was expecting considering the song wasn’t on TTH, HHUSA, or even NMF.

[kindofbiased]

I hope this week being super slow means Drugs & Hella Melodies debuts! And if the album bombs on the 26th screw it over again we should definitely see Transparent Soul on this chart too

[phieaglesfan712]

I think the biggest mistake Kelly did with that album was make Walk Away the 5th single. In my opinion, WA had the most potential of all the singles on Breakaway, and should have really been the 2nd single (following the title track). I think WA would have had a better chance of getting #1 against Candy Shop. The selection of Behind These Hazel Eyes was a brilliant choice for the 3rd single. That was a nice summer bop!

My ranking of the singles on Breakaway (from favorite to least):

1. Behind These Hazel Eyes
2. Walk Away
3. Breakaway
4. Since You Been Gone
5. Because of You (this one should have never been released as a single, lol)

[Enyasurvivor]

Jun 19, 2021 13:29:51 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

5. Because of You (this one should have never been released as a single, lol)

Imagine having this opinion

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 19, 2021 14:00:54 GMT -5 Enyasurvivor said:

Jun 19, 2021 13:29:51 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

5. Because of You (this one should have never been released as a single, lol)

Imagine having this opinion

I just cannot stand that song. Kelly's voice is just too screechy. I will always prefer Walk Away and BTHE, but the songs probably should have been released in this order:

1. Breakaway
2. Walk Away
3. Behind These Hazel Eyes
4. Since You Been Gone
5. Because of You

[Enigma.]

Jun 19, 2021 13:13:58 GMT -5 gikem said:

Jun 19, 2021 11:30:26 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Awful debut for Khalid/Tate as expected. Will not even chart this week without huge airplay support.

To be fair, it did better than I was expecting considering the song wasn’t on TTH, HHUSA, or even NMF.

Bizarre as it is on my local NMF, wonder what's gone wrong there internationally then...

[fridayteenage]

must be an even slower week on itunes than usual. the discounted genre this week is rock and they have sweet home alabama 10, kryptonite 9, have you ever seen the rain 4, etc.

[Push The Button]

Jun 19, 2021 12:43:54 GMT -5 @antigonerising said:

Jun 18, 2021 18:26:38 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

Do they really often forget though? I feel like I see that fact posted once per month in various places

I see BOBD and SUBG mentioned for this a lot, but I don't think I ever see anyone bring up HIOLI (probably bc someone who doesn't like that Candy Shop blocked two big rock/pop hits couldn't care less that 50 also blocked a rap song that he was featured on).

The perception of SUBG as a 'robbed' #2 is somewhat revisionist history, though. At the time, fans were actually excited about that peak because no one was expecting Kelly to get that high, especially that late into the single's run (I think it was four months in). In SUBG's CHR thread here the posters were just elated to see her at #1 on pop so hitting #2 on the Hot 100 for one week was a bonus celebration. The longevity of her singles is what was running the album sales up and I think that's what the fans cared about the most.

It was around the early 2010s when talk about 'unfair' #2 peaks started becoming more commonplace and SUBG would get thrown into that category, but that says more about how well it held up over time combined with how poorly Candy Shop aged (when #1 hits age well, people tend to complain a lot less about the songs they blocked, e.g. almost no one complains about any of the songs We Belong Together blocked that same year) than it does about anyone thinking it was unfair in 2005.

It’s because we knew that a Pop song had absolutely no chance of hitting #1 on the Hot 100 at that time. Going top ten was the best that Pulse Diva stans could hope for.