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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2021 12:12:28 GMT -5
Early but very welcome release. This is sad. They're gonna milk this kid for every last bit of music he'd recorded till there's nothing left. I also heard that a new Juice WRLD project will be dropping this year. Smh.
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Post by Gary on Jun 23, 2021 12:14:43 GMT -5
A good thing not a bad thing.
His fans get more music. The benefactors of his estate get more money
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 23, 2021 12:19:14 GMT -5
A good thing not a bad thing. His fans get more music. The benefactors of his estate get more money So rather than argue about my stance I'd just like to plainly ask: when are post humous release bad for you? What is the line?
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Post by meg on Jun 23, 2021 12:23:07 GMT -5
Post humous releases are just gross. Nothing justify it. It's just greed and captalism at the purest form. No real fans want it. Michael Jackson is like my all time favourite artist and I never touched anything they released after his death. It just feels wrong and dirty for me.
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Post by atg on Jun 23, 2021 12:26:05 GMT -5
To be honest posthumous releases aren’t bad and I don’t mind them at all but it goes too far when the estate/label starts to piece loose unrelated demos and verses, and adding on features or long intros just to get the songs to feel ‘complete’. There’s also the re releasing or making a compilation album as soon as the artist has passed. That is just wrong on so many levels.
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Post by Gary on Jun 23, 2021 12:30:38 GMT -5
A good thing not a bad thing. His fans get more music. The benefactors of his estate get more money So rather than argue about my stance I'd just like to plainly ask: when are post humous release bad for you? What is the line? It's all good, there is no line Another benefit - new fans get to discover the music, keeping the memory alive An example that stands out for me looking at album chart history Elvis Presley (died in 1977) hit #1 for 3 weeks in 2002 with a CD of number ones.
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Post by gikem on Jun 23, 2021 12:42:46 GMT -5
I don’t mind posthumous releases when the song(s)/album in question were virtually complete by the time of the artist’s death. This includes SFTS,AFTM; while I generally wasn’t a fan of the melodic trap side Pop Smoke tried to show, it mostly came across as a complete vision and seemed convincingly like this was the direction he wanted to go in. (Legends Never Die and Circles are also good examples for this case.)
When it starts to get bad for me are cases like XXXTENTACION’s Skins, which was pretty much made up of incomplete demos that were trying to pass themselves off as complete songs. This is exactly what I’m worried about for future posthumous releases - if the song sounds incomplete or awkward and the main artist can’t give their input because they’re deceased, it shouldn’t be released into the world. Pop Smoke’s and Juice’s teams were able to get away with this last time, but I’m not giving them another pass if the quality isn’t there.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 23, 2021 12:45:10 GMT -5
So rather than argue about my stance I'd just like to plainly ask: when are post humous release bad for you? What is the line? It's all good, there is no line Another benefit - new fans get to discover the music, keeping the memory alive An example that stands out for me looking at album chart history Elvis Presley (died in 1977) hit #1 for 3 weeks in 2002 with a CD of number ones. So basically: posthumous release good because capitalism
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jun 23, 2021 12:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jun 23, 2021 12:56:50 GMT -5
An example that stands out for me looking at album chart history Elvis Presley (died in 1977) hit #1 for 3 weeks in 2002 with a CD of number ones. That's called a compilation. We are talking about albums of previously unreleased material. Try to keep up
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Post by Gary on Jun 23, 2021 12:59:08 GMT -5
It's all good, there is no line Another benefit - new fans get to discover the music, keeping the memory alive An example that stands out for me looking at album chart history Elvis Presley (died in 1977) hit #1 for 3 weeks in 2002 with a CD of number ones. So basically: posthumous release good because capitalism A quick analogy over to food. Ever eat at KFC? Colonel Sanders died in 1980 but his chicken gets posthumously released every day Do you boycott the food because the image they put out is that of a dead guy?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 23, 2021 13:00:24 GMT -5
Lmao
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 23, 2021 13:04:24 GMT -5
So basically: posthumous release good because capitalism A quick analogy over to food. Ever eat at KFC? Colonel Sanders died in 1980 but his chicken gets posthumously released every day Do you boycott the food because the image they put out is that of a dead guy? That's a false equivalence, KFC dont actually market the Colonels real name and image for their food. It's the same reason people dont but Apple Laptops because in support of Steve Jobs, they buy it because they like Apple products and/or they're in need of a suitable laptop. Not to mention, neither Apple or KFC are "posthumously releasing: anything because the laptops and burgers being sold weren't actually made by the founders themselves
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Post by meg on Jun 23, 2021 13:05:02 GMT -5
So basically: posthumous release good because capitalism A quick analogy over to food. Ever eat at KFC? Colonel Sanders died in 1980 but his chicken gets posthumously released every day Do you boycott the food because the image they put out is that of a dead guy? No offense but this anology is stupid. He was a founder of KFC so you should compare him with a record label like Columbia or something and not the actual artist. Or it doesn't make sense then.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2021 13:08:39 GMT -5
So basically: posthumous release good because capitalism A quick analogy over to food. Ever eat at KFC? Colonel Sanders died in 1980 but his chicken gets posthumously released every day Do you boycott the food because the image they put out is that of a dead guy? This is a very terrible comparison/analogy, Gary.
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Post by kimberly on Jun 23, 2021 13:14:00 GMT -5
So basically: posthumous release good because capitalism A quick analogy over to food. Ever eat at KFC? Colonel Sanders died in 1980 but his chicken gets posthumously released every day Do you boycott the food because the image they put out is that of a dead guy? mmm yes I like to eat rotten chicken prepared in 1979 by the colonel
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 23, 2021 13:14:59 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2021 13:17:23 GMT -5
Olivia's team >>>
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Post by violentdreams on Jun 23, 2021 13:23:50 GMT -5
I don’t mind posthumous releases when the song(s)/album in question were virtually complete by the time of the artist’s death. This includes SFTS,AFTM; while I generally wasn’t a fan of the melodic trap side Pop Smoke tried to show, it mostly came across as a complete vision and seemed convincingly like this was the direction he wanted to go in. (Legends Never Die and Circles are also good examples for this case.) When it starts to get bad for me are cases like XXXTENTACION’s Skins, which was pretty much made up of incomplete demos that were trying to pass themselves off as complete songs. This is exactly what I’m worried about for future posthumous releases - if the song sounds incomplete or awkward and the main artist can’t give their input because they’re deceased, it shouldn’t be released into the world. Pop Smoke’s and Juice’s teams were able to get away with this last time, but I’m not giving them another pass if the quality isn’t there. Skins was actually close to finished, it just so happens that XXXTENTACION had a low bar for what counts as finished, so a 75% complete demo for him sounded more like a 25% complete demo for any other artist. Not that I don't agree with your argument, I just thought that was a funny thing to note.
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Post by mms82 on Jun 23, 2021 13:45:32 GMT -5
I don’t mind posthumous releases when the song(s)/album in question were virtually complete by the time of the artist’s death. This includes SFTS,AFTM; while I generally wasn’t a fan of the melodic trap side Pop Smoke tried to show, it mostly came across as a complete vision and seemed convincingly like this was the direction he wanted to go in. (Legends Never Die and Circles are also good examples for this case.) When it starts to get bad for me are cases like XXXTENTACION’s Skins, which was pretty much made up of incomplete demos that were trying to pass themselves off as complete songs. This is exactly what I’m worried about for future posthumous releases - if the song sounds incomplete or awkward and the main artist can’t give their input because they’re deceased, it shouldn’t be released into the world. Pop Smoke’s and Juice’s teams were able to get away with this last time, but I’m not giving them another pass if the quality isn’t there. Skins actually was close to finished, it just so happens that XXXTENTACION had a low bar for what counts as finished, so a 75% complete demo for him sounded more like a 25% complete demo for any other artist. Not that I don't agree with your argument, I just thought that was a funny thing to note. Yeah Skins is actually decent, bad vibes forever is literally nothing but a cash grab and is aqful
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Post by Henry Suárez on Jun 23, 2021 14:15:52 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with post-humous releases if the songs/demos were done before they died, that's the case of Juice Wrld and Pop Smoke I think.
Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and many artists had greatest hits albums after they passed away, are people complaining about that too?
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Post by Groovy on Jun 23, 2021 14:29:52 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with post-humous releases if the songs/demos were done before they died, that's the case of Juice Wrld and Pop Smoke I think. Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and many artists had greatest hits albums after they passed away, are people complaining about that too? I know some people were complaining about Love Never Felt So Good because apparently MJ never wanted it released and I see why, it doesn’t sound like a song from him at all.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 23, 2021 14:42:06 GMT -5
How do we mass buy this to get Olivia the #1 on the 7/10 chart?
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Post by Henry Suárez on Jun 23, 2021 14:43:33 GMT -5
^ It sounds like a JT song lol but I think it's decent, now after MJ's death in 2009, how many albums have they released with new music, 1?
Idk what to think about the Pop Smoke new album, it seems forced imo.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jun 23, 2021 14:55:50 GMT -5
^ It sounds like a JT song lol but I think it's decent, now after MJ's death in 2009, how many albums have they released with new music, 1? Idk what to think about the Pop Smoke new album, it seems forced imo. I read somewhere that he recorded so many tracks, and/or leftovers. If it's like his debut and more, I honestly wouldn't mind because I still enjoy it.
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Post by ontopofthis on Jun 23, 2021 15:14:06 GMT -5
America has due process, so you can take your sanctimony elsewhere I didn't know user ontopofthis decided where people should take their opinions Harassing people about having people be “accountable” because of bs on blogs? Yes, you all can go somewhere with that when America has due process
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Post by ontopofthis on Jun 23, 2021 15:17:55 GMT -5
Billie isn’t canceled, I think it’s a nothing controversy. Similar to Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart’s projects have always performed well, though. Billie Eilish has not seen a big hit, or any hit really, since Bad Guy. She is not struggling because of the internet things, but her songs have been struggling for a while now. That is just overlapping with her songs not being big performers
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Post by ontopofthis on Jun 23, 2021 15:20:40 GMT -5
You are saying a bunch of nothing. Take that pretzel logic right on back to Twitter I love how you didnt respond to what I said or anything in the article. Because what you posted has NO pertinence to any due process Straight up pretzel logic
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Post by Mayman on Jun 23, 2021 15:37:18 GMT -5
Billie isn’t canceled, I think it’s a nothing controversy. Similar to Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart’s projects have always performed well, though. Billie Eilish has not seen a big hit, or any hit really, since Bad Guy. She is not struggling because of the internet things, but her songs have been struggling for a while now. That is just overlapping with her songs not being big performers Everything I Wanted and Therefore I Am are most certainly hits. They both had great longevity and performed very well on both streams and radio. I didn't realize that not going #1 means that a song is not a hit.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 23, 2021 15:41:10 GMT -5
Keep in mind this has two days' worth of updates.
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/06/23
1(+1) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 100.33(+0.44) 2(-1) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 99.84(-1.22) 3(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 96.64(-3.12) 4(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 75.66(+2.15) 5(+1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 68.71(+1.04) 6(-1) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 68.70(-1.36) 7(=) The Kid LAROI & Miley Cyrus - WITHOUT YOU (Miley Cyrus Remix) 60.36(-1.83) 8(=) Ariana Grande - pov 57.44(+0.08) 9(=) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 53.35(-0.65) 10(=) Luke Combs - Forever After All 51.68(-0.12)
13(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 47.59(+1.82)
18(=) Kali Uchis - telepatía 44.47(+1.42)
20(=) GIVĒON - Heartbreak Anniversary 41.71(+2.22) - 21(=) Jason Aldean - Blame It on You 40.25(+0.94)
22(+1) Cole Swindell - Single Saturday Night 39.16(+1.22)
42(+5) Duncan Laurence - Arcade (feat. FLETCHER) 26.66(+1.23) 47(+3) Marshmello & Jonas Brothers - Leave Before You Love Me 25.47(+1.24)
87(+5) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 16.27(+1.07)
-(-) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 7.88(+1.42) + -(-) Tate McRae X Khalid - working 6.11(+2.62)
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