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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 22, 2021 12:40:11 GMT -5
I'm very surprised that Olivia isn't one of the Top 10 most Streamed artists of the first half of 2021, Her debut album "Sour" has been streaming like crazy so it really does surprise me to not see her Rank higher on this list. SOUR dropped at the end of May/start of June which is perhaps why she isn't in the Top 10. If she had dropped in March, I think we would be looking at a much different list True. She's also at a disadvantage because she has only released one album and that album only has 11 songs. She's been stable compared to other artists since SOUR dropped but she's also losing considerable streams every week because she doesn't really have a catalog to help out. May 21 - May 27: 283.7M May 28 - Jun. 3: 210.5M Jun. 4 - Jun. 10: 171M Jun. 11 - Jun. 17: 139.7M Jun. 18 - Jun. 24: 124.5M Jun. 25 - Jul. 1: 111.5M Jul. 2 - Jul. 8: 105M Jul. 9 - Jul. 15: 97.6M |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 22, 2021 12:43:25 GMT -5
SOUR dropped at the end of May/start of June which is perhaps why she isn't in the Top 10. If she had dropped in March, I think we would be looking at a much different list True. She's also at a disadvantage because she has only released one album and that album only has 11 songs. She's been stable compared to other artists since SOUR dropped but she's also losing considerable streams every week because she doesn't really have a catalog to help out. May 21 - May 27: 283.7M May 28 - Jun. 3: 210.5M Jun. 4 - Jun. 10: 171M Jun. 11 - Jun. 17: 139.7M Jun. 18 - Jun. 24: 124.5M Jun. 25 - Jul. 1: 111.5M Jul. 2 - Jul. 8: 105M Jul. 9 - Jul. 15: 97.6M She still garnered more than 50M on her EIGHTH week of SOUR being released. That is longevity I have yet to see matched in my chart watching lifetime |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 22, 2021 12:59:43 GMT -5
Something will inevitably replace the way we consume music however one of the things that makes streaming so appealing is that it's easy, instant access to songs and most platforms are easy to navigate. So if streaming is replaced, the medium would have to have benefits that streaming doesn't already provide. What's more likely to change is that the technology gets better rather than streaming being replaced as a whole but who knows i imagine by the time something does come around to take an edge over streaming, the musical trends will have shifted as well. i just hope that we can go back to a time where music is more than 3 minutes long rather than going backwards and songs getting increasingly shorter As I mentioned earlier, the cracks are beginning to show with streaming. This week, a 10-month old song not even on the streaming chart earned the streaming gainer. That has never happened before. In fact, that seems like something that would happen on a sales chart (which is a dying metric, go figure songs like I Hope and 10k Hours get discounted 2 weeks out of every month, and BL was its greatest gainer this past week). Only radio will still the test of time. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 22, 2021 13:00:48 GMT -5
True. She's also at a disadvantage because she has only released one album and that album only has 11 songs. She's been stable compared to other artists since SOUR dropped but she's also losing considerable streams every week because she doesn't really have a catalog to help out. May 21 - May 27: 283.7M May 28 - Jun. 3: 210.5M Jun. 4 - Jun. 10: 171M Jun. 11 - Jun. 17: 139.7M Jun. 18 - Jun. 24: 124.5M Jun. 25 - Jul. 1: 111.5M Jul. 2 - Jul. 8: 105M Jul. 9 - Jul. 15: 97.6M She still garnered more than 50M on her EIGHTH week of SOUR being released. That is longevity I have yet to see matched in my chart watching lifetime In regards to artists with only 1 project to their name? Definitely but other artists (with 2/3/4 projects in their catalog) have demonstrated stability just as good as that. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 22, 2021 13:24:25 GMT -5
Do we really believe a SOUR [Ultra Platinum Expanded for Streaming Edition] won't be forthcoming before 4thQ?
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Post by divasummer on Jul 22, 2021 13:35:20 GMT -5
i imagine by the time something does come around to take an edge over streaming, the musical trends will have shifted as well. i just hope that we can go back to a time where music is more than 3 minutes long rather than going backwards and songs getting increasingly shorter As I mentioned earlier, the cracks are beginning to show with streaming. This week, a 10-month old song not even on the streaming chart earned the streaming gainer. That has never happened before. In fact, that seems like something that would happen on a sales chart (which is a dying metric, go figure songs like I Hope and 10k Hours get discounted 2 weeks out of every month, and BL was its greatest gainer this past week). Only radio will still the test of time. Radio’s ratings have been drying up. I don’t even know anyone who still listens to it. Unless it’s satellite radio. I would think streaming will stick around. Is something like Pandora radio considered streaming? If yes than yes I think streaming will easily last as long as radio. |
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Post by jaffery on Jul 22, 2021 13:42:47 GMT -5
This'll show up tomorrow on NMF no doubt but just want to bring to light that Kid LAROI released a deluxe to his deluxe and it just adds 6 songs This has been planned for a long time. it's like a 3 part series ep before his debut album drops. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 22, 2021 14:48:09 GMT -5
F** Love 3: Still Not Over You. *sighs*
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2021 14:57:57 GMT -5
i imagine by the time something does come around to take an edge over streaming, the musical trends will have shifted as well. i just hope that we can go back to a time where music is more than 3 minutes long rather than going backwards and songs getting increasingly shorter As I mentioned earlier, the cracks are beginning to show with streaming. This week, a 10-month old song not even on the streaming chart earned the streaming gainer. That has never happened before. In fact, that seems like something that would happen on a sales chart (which is a dying metric, go figure songs like I Hope and 10k Hours get discounted 2 weeks out of every month, and BL was its greatest gainer this past week). Only radio will still the test of time. I know you posted this a few times, so I looked through the Billboard site to find streaming gainer awards - maybe I am just blind but couldn't find it |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 15:00:17 GMT -5
i am angry now so i am pulling for a Stay #1. Let me go make a playlist....
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 22, 2021 15:29:57 GMT -5
As I mentioned earlier, the cracks are beginning to show with streaming. This week, a 10-month old song not even on the streaming chart earned the streaming gainer. That has never happened before. In fact, that seems like something that would happen on a sales chart (which is a dying metric, go figure songs like I Hope and 10k Hours get discounted 2 weeks out of every month, and BL was its greatest gainer this past week). Only radio will still the test of time. I know you posted this a few times, so I looked through the Billboard site to find streaming gainer awards - maybe I am just blind but couldn't find it It is in the weekly Hot 100 chart just below the video up top, under "This week in the chart" just above the Hot 100 itself. It appears next to other weekly award gainers and debuts, including the Hot Shot one. |
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Post by kindofbiased on Jul 22, 2021 15:32:24 GMT -5
Ok so a Permission To Dance remix came out today, but from what I can tell the goal is still getting Butter to repeak and keep PTD in the top 10 instead of the other way around???
If they do get screwed over this week and lose the #1 it’ll be because of that that seems like the exact wrong goal to have
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2021 15:35:08 GMT -5
I know you posted this a few times, so I looked through the Billboard site to find streaming gainer awards - maybe I am just blind but couldn't find it It is in the weekly Hot 100 chart just below the video up top, under "This week in the chart" just above the Hot 100 itself. It appears next to other weekly award gainers and debuts, including the Hot Shot one. OK Thanks The "Pro" chart has better graphics but doesn't have that LOL that is why I missed it |
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Post by Clode on Jul 22, 2021 15:42:22 GMT -5
Any chance OTM will crack Top 50? It's gotten a bit a of push at Country radio - probably because it's close to Top 10. Will the label push harder? It's probably not that many additional airplay points from Top 40. So will G4U and DV rise and fall concurrently? Will the label to try sneak DV to #1 on Pop Radio? There is definitely a possibility that One Too Many will enter the Top 50 thanks to it's continued Gains on Country radio and I expect a Push week for that Song on Country radio so it will likely peak in the Top 40 of the Hot 100. I don't think that her Label is going to push "Deja Vu" to #1 on Pop radio and even if her label did end up pushing the Song, I still believe that her other song "Good 4 U" will keep "Deja Vu" from hitting #1. |
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Post by gikem on Jul 22, 2021 15:42:36 GMT -5
Ok so a Permission To Dance remix came out today, but from what I can tell the goal is still getting Butter to repeak and keep PTD in the top 10 instead of the other way around??? If they do get screwed over this week and lose the #1 it’ll be because of that that seems like the exact wrong goal to have Really, the only clear goal they have is to retain the #1 in any way possible. Whether that will work remains to be seen. It could be anything from them holding the entire top 2 to both songs crashing to the bottom half of the top 10 or even further. Either way, Good 4 U and Stay will remain the 2 biggest songs in the US this week and no one that isn't an Army can argue with that. |
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Post by mms82 on Jul 22, 2021 15:58:53 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 22, 2021 16:08:12 GMT -5
Any chance OTM will crack Top 50? It's gotten a bit a of push at Country radio - probably because it's close to Top 10. Will the label push harder? It's probably not that many additional airplay points from Top 40. So will G4U and DV rise and fall concurrently? Will the label to try sneak DV to #1 on Pop Radio? There is definitely a possibility that One Too Many will enter the Top 50 thanks to it's continued Gains on Country radio and I expect a Push week for that Song on Country radio so it will likely peak in the Top 40 of the Hot 100. I don't think that her Label is going to push "Deja Vu" to #1 on Pop radio and even if her label did end up pushing the Song, I still believe that her other song "Good 4 U" will keep "Deja Vu" from hitting #1. Country radio needs to be weighed a lot less on the Hot 100. No way you can justify One Too Many being the 52nd biggest song in the US last week. That said, they’ve been trying to push OTM on country radio since October. They really need to let that song go because if it hasn’t caught on by now, it’s not suddenly going to this time either. Regarding Olivia, I think it’s best they move on from deja vu, so traitor can get a proper push. |
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Post by mms82 on Jul 22, 2021 16:16:56 GMT -5
Country radio needs to be weighed a lot less on the Hot 100. No way you can justify One Too Many being the 52nd biggest song in the US last week. That said, they’ve been trying to push OTM on country radio since October. They really need to let that song go because if it hasn’t caught on by now, it’s not suddenly going to this time either. Regarding Olivia, I think it’s best they move on from deja vu, so traitor can get a proper push. What's your bias against country? It's one of the biggest genres in America, millions of people listen to it (and listen via country radio only), and honestly yeah One Too Many was probably the 52nd biggest song in America last week considering streaming gains (I presume it does way better on Amazon and Pandora that are more country friendly) and radio pickup. Also, country radio takes forever to pick up songs. It's not uncommon to have a lag time of almost a year between release and going number one. Now that country songs are charting earlier because of streaming, we're going to see lots of songs like OTM that have enough streaming and radio interest to last 20ish weeks at the bottom of the chart, then surge into the top 40 almost a year after their release as they go to the top of country radio and get the 50million+ listeners that can come with that |
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Post by bigolefreak on Jul 22, 2021 16:19:07 GMT -5
Gotta keep an eye out for Selena at midnight!
It is most likely something for her makeup brand or her new Hulu show though.
(also happy 29th birthday Selena!)
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2021 16:22:56 GMT -5
For the 'One Too Many' "fan" out there
This weeks chart positions:
Hot 100 - moves from 66 to 52 in week 31
All Genre airplay down from 43 to 44 in week 9
Hot Country Songs moves from 15 to 10 in week 44
Country Streaming - re-nters at #13 in week 9
Country airplay up from 14 to 13 in week 43
In the current country radio top 10 - the average weeks on is 31.9 weeks.
That would be the biggest songs on country radio - not the bottom - One Too Many is #13 and gaining
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 22, 2021 16:23:51 GMT -5
There is definitely a possibility that One Too Many will enter the Top 50 thanks to it's continued Gains on Country radio and I expect a Push week for that Song on Country radio so it will likely peak in the Top 40 of the Hot 100. I don't think that her Label is going to push "Deja Vu" to #1 on Pop radio and even if her label did end up pushing the Song, I still believe that her other song "Good 4 U" will keep "Deja Vu" from hitting #1. Country radio needs to be weighed a lot less on the Hot 100. No way you can justify One Too Many being the 52nd biggest song in the US last week. That said, they’ve been trying to push OTM on country radio since October. They really need to let that song go because if it hasn’t caught on by now, it’s not suddenly going to this time either. Regarding Olivia, I think it’s best they move on from deja vu, so traitor can get a proper push. Anyone who is cheering on the chart run of a song that has been on the charts for almost 90 weeks has no right to say that songs which have been on the charts for less than half (OTM) and far less than that (Deja Vu) should be discarded for others to move on from them. If people don't want to move on from songs that have been out for a few months, you of all people have no right to tell them to do so. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 22, 2021 16:26:56 GMT -5
There is definitely a possibility that One Too Many will enter the Top 50 thanks to it's continued Gains on Country radio and I expect a Push week for that Song on Country radio so it will likely peak in the Top 40 of the Hot 100. I don't think that her Label is going to push "Deja Vu" to #1 on Pop radio and even if her label did end up pushing the Song, I still believe that her other song "Good 4 U" will keep "Deja Vu" from hitting #1. Country radio needs to be weighed a lot less on the Hot 100. No way you can justify One Too Many being the 52nd biggest song in the US last week. That said, they’ve been trying to push OTM on country radio since October. They really need to let that song go because if it hasn’t caught on by now, it’s not suddenly going to this time either. Regarding Olivia, I think it’s best they move on from deja vu, so traitor can get a proper push. Jesus Christ |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 22, 2021 16:34:23 GMT -5
There is definitely a possibility that One Too Many will enter the Top 50 thanks to it's continued Gains on Country radio and I expect a Push week for that Song on Country radio so it will likely peak in the Top 40 of the Hot 100. I don't think that her Label is going to push "Deja Vu" to #1 on Pop radio and even if her label did end up pushing the Song, I still believe that her other song "Good 4 U" will keep "Deja Vu" from hitting #1. Country radio needs to be weighed a lot less on the Hot 100. No way you can justify One Too Many being the 52nd biggest song in the US last week. That said, they’ve been trying to push OTM on country radio since October. They really need to let that song go because if it hasn’t caught on by now, it’s not suddenly going to this time either. Regarding Olivia, I think it’s best they move on from deja vu, so traitor can get a proper push. You're the absolute LAST person who should be speaking on people moving on from songs, especially songs that haven't been out for up to 4 months. Just stick to posting about Blinding Lights. |
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Post by 85la on Jul 22, 2021 16:40:33 GMT -5
It is in the weekly Hot 100 chart just below the video up top, under "This week in the chart" just above the Hot 100 itself. It appears next to other weekly award gainers and debuts, including the Hot Shot one. OK Thanks The "Pro" chart has better graphics but doesn't have that LOL that is why I missed it Yeah I noticed that too, and in the individual position listing for OTM it isn't listed as the top streaming gainer either, but it is for the basic version of the chart. They really need to get it together! |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 22, 2021 16:40:55 GMT -5
Yeah, it was those of us plebians who see the basic chart that noticed it.
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Post by lyhom on Jul 22, 2021 16:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 22, 2021 16:45:08 GMT -5
Country radio needs to be weighed a lot less on the Hot 100. No way you can justify One Too Many being the 52nd biggest song in the US last week. That said, they’ve been trying to push OTM on country radio since October. They really need to let that song go because if it hasn’t caught on by now, it’s not suddenly going to this time either. Regarding Olivia, I think it’s best they move on from deja vu, so traitor can get a proper push. Anyone who is cheering on the chart run of a song that has been on the charts for almost 90 weeks has no right to say that songs which have been on the charts for less than half (OTM) and far less than that (Deja Vu) should be discarded for others to move on from them. If people don't want to move on from songs that have been out for a few months, you of all people have no right to tell them to do so. One of Olivia's songs need to be the sacrificial lamb in order for traitor to succeed. It's going to be tough to promote 3 singles successfully at once. I've only seen it done one time: Justin Bieber in early 2016 (WDYM, Sorry, and Love Yourself). |
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Jul 22, 2021 16:55:18 GMT -5
Anyone who is cheering on the chart run of a song that has been on the charts for almost 90 weeks has no right to say that songs which have been on the charts for less than half (OTM) and far less than that (Deja Vu) should be discarded for others to move on from them. If people don't want to move on from songs that have been out for a few months, you of all people have no right to tell them to do so. One of Olivia's songs need to be the sacrificial lamb in order for traitor to succeed. It's going to be tough to promote 3 singles successfully at once. I've only seen it done one time: Justin Bieber in early 2016 (WDYM, Sorry, and Love Yourself). What's the rush? They can start promoting "traitor" sometime in August or September. I'm sure Olivia's label is happy to have two hit songs getting a lot of airplay and they are not going to kill either one to push a third song. Also, who says there is a plan to push the fourth single at all? People have already streamed the whole album a lot, it might be best to move on to album #2 in 2022. |
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Post by Mayman on Jul 22, 2021 16:55:43 GMT -5
Anyone who is cheering on the chart run of a song that has been on the charts for almost 90 weeks has no right to say that songs which have been on the charts for less than half (OTM) and far less than that (Deja Vu) should be discarded for others to move on from them. If people don't want to move on from songs that have been out for a few months, you of all people have no right to tell them to do so. One of Olivia's songs need to be the sacrificial lamb in order for traitor to succeed. It's going to be tough to promote 3 singles successfully at once. I've only seen it done one time: Justin Bieber in early 2016 (WDYM, Sorry, and Love Yourself). Ariana has done it multiple times. God Is A Woman, Breathin, Thank U Next Breathin, Thank U Next, 7 Rings Thank U Next, 7 Rings, BUWYGIB |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 22, 2021 17:06:18 GMT -5
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