Billboard Hot 100: 08/28/2021

[phieaglesfan712]

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

[jaffery]

Aug 19, 2021 16:39:49 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

You mean the side project that nearly has 5b streams on Spotify and two songs with over 1b streams that was never going to be consumed as big as an ed Sheeran solo album since his demographic also consists of soccer moms, who are not hip hop fans

[gikem]

Aug 19, 2021 16:39:49 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

The difference is that that was marketed as a side project under Ed Sheeran's name, not a legitimate Ed Sheeran solo album. So Ed was able to keep his dignity intact for that reason.

[TylerG11]

Aug 19, 2021 10:54:34 GMT -5 lazer said:

I'm kinda glad he went with "equal" instead of "minus". The latter just feels like bad promo because of what the symbol represents.

I've been saying for years "minus" or "subtract" should be an acoustic or stripped back album for Ed, it's the only way it would make sense, in my opinion, without a negative connotation associated with it.

[nathanalbright]

This is true, who knows if and when that will eventually come: "Minus: The MTV Unplugged Album"

[Gary]

I am confused - which one is the "major album flop"?


weeks on title, artist peak
232 ÷ (Divide), Ed Sheeran peak 1
313 x, Ed Sheeran 1
73 No.6 Collaborations Project, Ed Sheeran 1
243 +, Ed Sheeran 5

[atg]

Aug 19, 2021 14:05:52 GMT -5 algo said:

reputation was the #1 album of 2018, it was by no means a massive flop and the final leg of taylor's career. critics disliking an album and it having mixed reception from the GP does not meet the qualifications a mi

Reputation technically was her Artpop. As a matter of fact i think Lover was her Joanne as well. Both Taylor and Gaga have never truly recovered from their first mentioned eras, despite them actually doing really well but it’s just that people market them as a flop because of the whole mixed reception and underwhelming experience of it all. I still credit their longevity to still pull out #1 hits to this day even when they blew up heavily in the mainstream around the same time back in 2008 and is something that should never be taken for granted.


If there is one thing Taylor could still do, is pull out massive sales with each album she puts out. She is to the sales world what Drake is to the streaming world so i’m not too worried if she starts becoming an albums artist.

[nathanalbright]

As long as she has singles that chart on the Hot 100 we will chat about her in threads like these, though.

[85la]

Aug 19, 2021 16:39:49 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

Since we will now be bombarded with this mistruth and flat-out lie for the next few months, go ahead and tell us your distorted view of it. How was it a flop? Lay it all out for us in plain English....

[nathanalbright]

We might be waiting for a while.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 19, 2021 16:39:49 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

Considering you also called Planet Her and every album that came out after SOUR 'a flop', I don't really see why we should take your word for this

[phieaglesfan712]

Aug 19, 2021 22:33:57 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Aug 19, 2021 16:39:49 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

Considering you also called Planet Her and every album that came out after SOUR 'a flop', I don't really see why we should take your word for this

Planet Her is not a flop (it’s going to be the #1 album this week), but pretty much all the other post-Sour album is a flop.

That said, No. 6 Collaborations failed to knock off Sicko Mode from 50 to recurrent (and it’s not like it had only 11 songs like Sour), and that alone makes it one of the biggest flops in the streaming era.

[jthentic]

Aug 19, 2021 23:00:13 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Aug 19, 2021 22:33:57 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Considering you also called Planet Her and every album that came out after SOUR 'a flop', I don't really see why we should take your word for this

Planet Her is not a flop (it’s going to be the #1 album this week), but pretty much all the other post-Sour album is a flop.

That said, No. 6 Collaborations failed to knock off Sicko Mode from 50 to recurrent (and it’s not like it had only 11 songs like Sour), and that alone makes it one of the biggest flops in the streaming era.

bruh you're really something 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[nathanalbright]

I am sure that someone could come up with a list of several hundred, if not a thousand albums, that were far bigger flops than No. 6 Collaborations.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 19, 2021 23:00:13 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Aug 19, 2021 22:33:57 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Considering you also called Planet Her and every album that came out after SOUR 'a flop', I don't really see why we should take your word for this

Planet Her is not a flop (it’s going to be the #1 album this week), but pretty much all the other post-Sour album is a flop.

That said, No. 6 Collaborations failed to knock off Sicko Mode from 50 to recurrent (and it’s not like it had only 11 songs like Sour), and that alone makes it one of the biggest flops in the streaming era.

Congrats for doubling down on your idiocy

Polo G - Hall of Fame: debuted at #1 with 143,000 units so sold. 447,000 total units sold so far

Lil Baby and Lil Durk - Voice of the Heroes: debuted with 150K Units sold, 547,000 total units sold so far

Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever: debuted with 238000 units sold, has spent 2 weeks atop the album charts, 323,000 total units sold so far, garnered critical acclaim

Doja Cat - Planet Her: debuted at #2 with 109,000 units sold. 464,000 total units so far

Bo Burnham - Inside (The Songs): despite only peaking at #7, for a comedy album it has moved 151,000 (rough estimate) while also garnering critical acclaim

Tyler, the Creator - CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST: debuted at #1 with 169,000 - one of the biggest debuts this year, total units sold with 241,000 (rough estimate), one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the year

Migos - Culture III: debuted at #2 with 130,500 sold, total units sold: 251,500 (very rough estimate)

Obviously if you compare anything to SOUR these all look like flops but at that point, that's not the artists' fault that's your own greedy perspective.

Oh and as for No. 6 Collaborations:
Debuted with 173,000 units sold, and is certified Platinum in Brazil, France, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, and the U.S., is 2x Platinum in Canada, Denmark, and the UK, and is 3x Platinum in New Zealand

I hope all of this shows why you're being laughed at

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Aug 19, 2021 16:50:40 GMT -5 jaffery said:

Aug 19, 2021 16:39:49 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

While we’re on the topic of major album flops, let’s not forget about Ed’s last album.

You mean the side project that nearly has 5b streams on Spotify and two songs with over 1b streams that was never going to be consumed as big as an ed Sheeran solo album since his demographic also consists of soccer moms, who are not hip hop fans

Not to mention the 5 or 6 top 40 hits it produced across multiple formats. Maybe it wasn’t a huge seller/streamer as an album but it had an impact with its singles. I don’t get the narrative he’s trying to push repeatedly about this.

[Choco]

Guys the block button is right there.

Do not feed into false realities.

[nathanalbright]

How many people have used it so far?

[thegreatdivine]

Aug 19, 2021 23:00:13 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Aug 19, 2021 22:33:57 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Considering you also called Planet Her and every album that came out after SOUR 'a flop', I don't really see why we should take your word for this

Planet Her is not a flop (it’s going to be the #1 album this week), but pretty much all the other post-Sour album is a flop.

That said, No. 6 Collaborations failed to knock off Sicko Mode from 50 to recurrent (and it’s not like it had only 11 songs like Sour), and that alone makes it one of the biggest flops in the streaming era.

It's like you toss all common sense out the window before giving your opinion on anything.

[nathanalbright]

How much does he have to throw away tho?

[HamedM1 💔]

Most of us probably haven't used the block button probably cause phieagles it's kinda amusing albeit sad to see what he has to say lol.

[Normi]

Isn't spreading false information on purpose also against rules? Just sayin'..

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 08/18/21

1(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 2,001,273 (-23,670)
2(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 1,634,405 (-17,137)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 1,167,995 (-11,718)
4(=) Doja Cat - Need to Know 1,152,123 (-2,850)
5(=) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 1,113,583 (-25,225)
6(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 931,631 (+2,717)
7(=) Lizzo - Rumors 842,717 (-32,947)
8(=) Sleepy Hallow - 2055 797,741 (-2,861)
9(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 788,834 (-5,341)
10(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 749,588 (-5,185)

Others:
11(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 732,736 (-6,349)
12(=) Måneskin - Beggin' 683,056 (-6,120)
13(=) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 678,385 (-1,862)
14(+2) Dua Lipa - Levitating 672,598 (-1,598)
15(=) Doja Cat - Ain't Shit 667,607 (-8,246)
16(-2) The Weeknd - Take My Breath 652,984 (-24,459)
17(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 644,685 (-7,788)
18(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 635,317 (-3,228)
19(=) Doja Cat - Woman 577,328 (+2,868)
20(=) Farruko - Pepas 545,770 (+8,762)
21(=) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 541,287 (+14,398)
22(=) Post Malone - Motley Crew 513,558 (-10,475)
24(+1) Justin Bieber - Peaches 508,651 (+1,846)
25(-1) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 504,004 (-3,076)
26(=) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 500,377 (-934)
27(=) Aventura, Bad Bunny - Volví 485,217 (-10,334)
29(=) Surf Curse - Freaks 448,931 (-141)
30(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 441,622 (+3,116)
31(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 435,364 (-664)
32(=) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 428,558 (-598)
33(+15) Sueco - Paralyzed 425,532 (+46,748)
35(-1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 421,162 (+6,098)
36(=) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 410,374 (-62)
38(-1) The Kid LAROI - NOT SOBER 402,520 (-2,276)
39(-1) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 402,276 (-2,134)
40(-1) Smiley - Over the Top 395,442 (-7,137)
41(+3) PinkPantheress - Pain 393,325 (+6,579)
44(-2) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 390,922 (-1,774)
45(-2) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 386,662 (-1,767)
48(+1) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 377,082 (+240)
50(-4) Lil Tecca - REPEAT IT 368,820 (-10,791)
52(=) Jack Harlow, Pooh Shiesty - SUVs (Black on Black) 357,799 (-2,135)
54(+1) Tai Verdes - A-O-K 344,655 (-2,943)
55(+5) PinkPantheress - Just for me 342,810 (+1,401)
56(-3) YNW Melly - Mind of Melvin 342,157 (-13,160)
57(-1) A-Wall - Loverboy 338,944 (-6,483)
58(=) Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE 338,481 (-3,737)
59(-2) DaBaby - Ball If I Want To 337,563 (-5,153)
62(+2) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 332,092 (-1,933)
63(-2) BTS - Butter 330,867 (-6,948)
68(-9) Machine Gun Kelly - papercuts 313,051 (-29,152)
75(+2) Tyler the Creator - WUSYANAME 296,973 (-384)
78(+3) Yot Club - YKWIM? 291,035 (+2,194)
81(-2) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Skate 286,667 (-4,429)
82(+1) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 283,679 (-2,625)
83(+2) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 282,584 (+3,012)
88(-1) Camila Cabello - Don't Go Yet 274,648 (-3,345)
91(-2) Billie Eilish - NDA 270,433 (-6,512)
95(+2) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 268,479 (+1,715)

102(-4) Nessa Barrett - i hope ur miserable until ur dead 261,309 (-4,080)
104(+1) Nio Garcia, J Balvin, Bad Bunny - AM Remix 259,046 (+1,160)
114(-7) BTS - Permission to Dance 247,377 (-8,778)
116(=) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY Remix 246,379 (-1,161)
117(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 245,758 (+920)
118(=) Sheff G - On Go 242,734 (-1,161)
121(-50) Blueface, Og Bobby Billions - Outside (Better Days) 239,160 (-70,701)
124(debut) Lorde - Mood Ring 237,940
126(-3) Beach House - Space Song 236,791 (+5)
128(-2) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 235,126 (-999)
141(+8) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 226,263 (+5,337)
146(-3) Dua Lipa - Love Again 222,112 (-1,272)
153(-9) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 216,116 (-6,956)
155(-15) $uicideboy$ - Materialism as a Means to an End 213,660 (-12,960)
161(+1) Blxst, Tyga - Chosen 212,197 (+1,540)
168(-22) blackbear - @ my worst 207,755 (-14,284)
169(+11) Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood - If I Didn't Love You 207,399 (+2,129)
181(=) Elle King, Miranda Lambert - Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) 204,427 (+65)
184(+3) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 203,429 (+673)
189(+7) PinkPantheress - Break It Off 201,550 (+2,980)
192(-7) Normani - Wild Side 200,967 (-2,105)
193(+5) Sub Urban, Bella Poarch - INFERNO 200,497 (+2,413)

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 681,122

[kimberly]

Aug 20, 2021 2:28:30 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

14(+2) Dua Lipa - Levitating 672,598 (-1,598)

oh no! "Levitating" is crashing HARD

[phieaglesfan712]

Aug 19, 2021 23:52:11 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Aug 19, 2021 23:00:13 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Planet Her is not a flop (it’s going to be the #1 album this week), but pretty much all the other post-Sour album is a flop.

That said, No. 6 Collaborations failed to knock off Sicko Mode from 50 to recurrent (and it’s not like it had only 11 songs like Sour), and that alone makes it one of the biggest flops in the streaming era.

Congrats for doubling down on your idiocy

Polo G - Hall of Fame: debuted at #1 with 143,000 units so sold. 447,000 total units sold so far

Lil Baby and Lil Durk - Voice of the Heroes: debuted with 150K Units sold, 547,000 total units sold so far

Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever: debuted with 238000 units sold, has spent 2 weeks atop the album charts, 323,000 total units sold so far, garnered critical acclaim

Doja Cat - Planet Her: debuted at #2 with 109,000 units sold. 464,000 total units so far

Bo Burnham - Inside (The Songs): despite only peaking at #7, for a comedy album it has moved 151,000 (rough estimate) while also garnering critical acclaim

Tyler, the Creator - CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST: debuted at #1 with 169,000 - one of the biggest debuts this year, total units sold with 241,000 (rough estimate), one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the year

Migos - Culture III: debuted at #2 with 130,500 sold, total units sold: 251,500 (very rough estimate)

Obviously if you compare anything to SOUR these all look like flops but at that point, that's not the artists' fault that's your own greedy perspective.

Oh and as for No. 6 Collaborations:
Debuted with 173,000 units sold, and is certified Platinum in Brazil, France, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, and the U.S., is 2x Platinum in Canada, Denmark, and the UK, and is 3x Platinum in New Zealand

I hope all of this shows why you're being laughed at

I'm amazed you remember all of these. With the exception of Planet Her and Happier Than Ever, I've pretty much forgotten the rest of them by the 2nd or 3rd week.

[Gary]

Aug 19, 2021 23:00:13 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Aug 19, 2021 22:33:57 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Considering you also called Planet Her and every album that came out after SOUR 'a flop', I don't really see why we should take your word for this

Planet Her is not a flop (it’s going to be the #1 album this week), but pretty much all the other post-Sour album is a flop.

That said, No. 6 Collaborations failed to knock off Sicko Mode from 50 to recurrent (and it’s not like it had only 11 songs like Sour), and that alone makes it one of the biggest flops in the streaming era.

I looked up a couple things here during the debut week of the "biggest flop of the streaming era" 7-27-2019

Sicko Mode was still #31 in streaming actually moving up from #33, that alone would have kept it charting another week

But instead of wasting time and going further into how the recurrent charts for singes work(which you won't respond to anyway) - I will stick with streaming

On a 15 track album - 5 made the streaming top 50 = not bad I would say for the "biggest flop of the streaming era"



But for your benefit - as I was trying to figure out what the connection was between Sicko Mode and Ed Sheeran and why that would be a measurement of a "flop" since we apparently measure “flops” off just the debut week (which was number one btw)



I found one a Travis Scott and Ed Sheehan connection.

LOL

The song that places #21 on streaming for that week

Antisocial, Ed Sheeran & Travis Scott

[Groovy]

If it isn’t obvious already, the radio is done with Butter, it had a huge decrease today and the callouts have been awful.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/08/20

1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 89.78(+0.03) +
2(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 87.92(-0.03)
3(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 86.62(+0.40)
4(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 81.64(-0.94)
5(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 77.47(-0.12) +
6(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 67.07(-0.53) +
7(+1) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 58.33(+2.14)
8(-1) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 57.14(-0.14)
9(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 53.44(-1.40)
10(=) GIVĒON - HEARTBREAK ANNIVERSARY 49.86(-0.05)

13(=) Doja Cat & The Weeknd - You Right 45.67(+0.74)

14(+1) Justin Moore - We Didn't Have Much 45.03(+0.73)

20(+1) The Weeknd - Take My Breath 38.65(+1.40)

27(+7) Lizzo & Cardi B - Rumors 32.89(+3.36)

-(-) Måneskin - Beggin 12.67(+0.93)

[firefox]

Glad You Exist, disappearing.
Peaches, rotting.
telepatia, passing out.
Butter, melting.
Levitating, descending.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 20, 2021 7:28:30 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Aug 19, 2021 23:52:11 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Congrats for doubling down on your idiocy

Polo G - Hall of Fame: debuted at #1 with 143,000 units so sold. 447,000 total units sold so far

Lil Baby and Lil Durk - Voice of the Heroes: debuted with 150K Units sold, 547,000 total units sold so far

Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever: debuted with 238000 units sold, has spent 2 weeks atop the album charts, 323,000 total units sold so far, garnered critical acclaim

Doja Cat - Planet Her: debuted at #2 with 109,000 units sold. 464,000 total units so far

Bo Burnham - Inside (The Songs): despite only peaking at #7, for a comedy album it has moved 151,000 (rough estimate) while also garnering critical acclaim

Tyler, the Creator - CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST: debuted at #1 with 169,000 - one of the biggest debuts this year, total units sold with 241,000 (rough estimate), one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the year

Migos - Culture III: debuted at #2 with 130,500 sold, total units sold: 251,500 (very rough estimate)

Obviously if you compare anything to SOUR these all look like flops but at that point, that's not the artists' fault that's your own greedy perspective.

Oh and as for No. 6 Collaborations:
Debuted with 173,000 units sold, and is certified Platinum in Brazil, France, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, and the U.S., is 2x Platinum in Canada, Denmark, and the UK, and is 3x Platinum in New Zealand

I hope all of this shows why you're being laughed at

I'm amazed you remember all of these. With the exception of Planet Her and Happier Than Ever, I've pretty much forgotten the rest of them by the 2nd or 3rd week.

I didnt remember any of these stats. I did the research and looked at the stats of albums released after SOUR and that spent more than 2 weeks in the top 10. It took less than 10 minutes, and it's something you couldve done before labeling everything a flop just because you havent listened to them.