Billboard Hot 100: 08/28/2021

[tanooki]

Aug 24, 2021 0:39:19 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Do we know what its amazon sales were? iTunes isn't the only place such a song is going to be sold, after all. And seeing as I could very easily find right-wing sources praising the song as a stand for liberty against the Chinese government, it's not hard to figure out the "something" that accounts for its selective viral appeal.

go show me where conservatives are promoting this song, PLEASE i would love to see it


Amazon is not the source, its not even top 100

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 24, 2021 0:39:19 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Do we know what its amazon sales were? iTunes isn't the only place such a song is going to be sold, after all. And seeing as I could very easily find right-wing sources praising the song as a stand for liberty against the Chinese government, it's not hard to figure out the "something" that accounts for its selective viral appeal.

There is no widespread appeal amongst right-wing sources because if there was, videos for this song wouldn't have less than 5000 views! There is no virality with this and if there's one thing we can count on conservative grifters is that they will show up and go viral easily (just compare how long it takes conservative talking heads to build an audience on YouTube compared to progressive channels). Aaron Lewis had several TV performances, Tom Macdonald has his YouTube audience, this guy is just really rich and probably bought the position.

[nathanalbright]

Here goes:

new.milneroffroad.com/newvid/miles-guo-dance-7-remix/

m.dragonrest.net/lagu/mp3/miles-guo-dance-7-remix

gnews.org/1291139/

Have it, y'all.

[Naos]

At least with BTS, it was by fans. This is just seemingly just some rich dude buying his way to giving his propaganda more attention.

[nathanalbright]

If the general radio and streaming climate were stronger, and if sales was stronger across the board, a song would need a lot more points to chart, and thus the sell 10k+ copies to get a one-week position on the Hot 100 model would be less attractive.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 24, 2021 0:49:12 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Here goes:

new.milneroffroad.com/newvid/miles-guo-dance-7-remix/

m.dragonrest.net/lagu/mp3/miles-guo-dance-7-remix

gnews.org/1291139/

Have it, y'all.

Your first two links aren't even articles about this song, they're just gateway links to the video which just shows it has 3.2K views. That amount of views wouldn't even be viral in 2010, let alone 2021.

Your third link isn't a real news source! It's literally a site run by the Miles Guo, it's basically a promo for this "song"

[nathanalbright]

If you want a more critical source about the nature of the appeal of Miles, there is always this one:

www.thedailybeast.com/trumpworld-app-is-bankrolled-by-fugitive-chinese-billionaire


And this app is driving some of the news stories I have seen pumping him up as an anti-Chinese critic:


notmainstreamnews.us/summary-of-todays-gettr-video-from-mr-miles-guo/

Edit:  Honestly, I would never have known of the song apart from the outrage about it, and it would appear that whatever promotion the song has comes from Miles himself, through websites and apps he controls.  I do not disagree that this is astroturfed, I'm just saying that there is at least a small and genuine group of people that is responsive to such appeals, even if they aren't widely known by the general public.   10,000 or 20,000 is hardly a large number in a nation of more than 300 million people.    

[tanooki]

Do you have any articles promoting his music the same way Aaron Lewis and Tom Macdonald were promoted? He's a Chinese billionaire, of course he has some articles about him, but that Daily Beast article you provided has zero mention of Dance 7. Idk what you're getting at here lmao, why can't you just accept that Billboard fucked up

[iamsorare]

I think this will be the peak but we will see

.. shocking that ''need to know'' didn't have a new peak this week...

[After Minutes]

Billboard cannot verify any of this and that's the problem. We know and they know that the song's success isn't legitimate, but they can't prove it. It got on the charts using only tools offered by billboard itself, and taking it off would not only be very arbitrary, but it could spark a whole controversy, like with OTR, but this time it'd be even bigger, since the Qarmy have actual media behind them.
All that they can do, and definitely should do is change the system and reduce the impact of sales. There was this discussion about how searches for a song or mentions on social media or whatever could count on the charts, and while that isn't dumb at first, it could be just as easily manipulated.

[kimberly]

"Dance 7" is left off the Hot 100 on the website (would have been No. 88 but is absent entirely):



"5500 Degrees" re-enters at No. 100 instead:

[firefox]

Aug 24, 2021 4:25:07 GMT -5 kimberly said:

"Dance 7" is left off the Hot 100 on the website (would have been No. 88 but is absent entirely):



"5500 Degrees" re-enters at No. 100 instead:

Maybe Billboard realized it should not enter at all

[dremolus - solarpunk]

So much for Billboard doesn't make mistakes

[firefox]

It also doesn't appear on Digital Song Sales on the website too. Rumors is now #2.

[firefox]

[firefox]

So it's official. "Dance 7" by Miles Guo is the first song to debut and drop off the Hot 100 in the same week.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Notable Gains:
#16. WizKid feat. Justin Bieber and Tems - Essence (+28)
#33. Farruko - Pepas (+19)
#47. Justin Moore - We Didn't Have Much (+11)
#68. Doja Cat - Woman (+16)
#80. Yung Bleu, Chris Brown, and 2 Chainz - Baddest (+10)

Notable Losses:
#39. Nelly and Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit (-12)
#45. Aventura and Bad Bunny - Volví (-23)
#59. Doja Cat - Ain't Shit (-12)
#66. BTS - Permissions to Dance (-11)
#82. Jack Harlow and Pooh Shiesty - SUVs (Black on Black) (-15)
#83. Migos - Straightenin (-11)
#90. J. Cole feat. Morray and 21 Savage - m y . l i f e (-17)
#99. Lil Tecca feat. Gunna - REPEAT IT (-19)

Re-entries:
#75. Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh)

Biggest Gain in Airplay: STAY
Biggest Gain in Streaming and Sales: Essence

Notable Dropouts:
my ex's best friend (52 weeks)
telepatía (25 weeks)
happier (12 weeks)
NDA (5 weeks)

Gained in Points:
#2. Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits (+1) *new peak*
#7. Lil Nas X feat. Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY (+1)
#12. Walker Hayes - Fancy Like (+3) *new peak*
#17. Doja Cat and The Weeknd - You Right (-1)
#20. Doja Cat - Need to Know (=)
#22. Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist (-1)
#27. Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit (+2)
#29. Olivia Rodrigo - traitor (+4)
#30. Luke Bryan - Waves (+4) *new peak*
#31. Silk Sonic (Bruno Mars and Anderson .Paak) - Skate (+4)
#35. MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha (+5)
#37. Lainey Wilson - Things a Man Oughta Know (+2) *new peak*
#38. Duncan Laurence - Arcade (+3)9 *new peak*
#42. Måneskin - Beggin' (+8)
#43. Thomas Rhett - Country Again (=)
#44. Ryan Hurd with Maren Morris - Chasing After You (+5) *new peak*
#49. BIA feat. Nicki Minaj - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY (-4)
#50. Jameson Rodgers feat. Luke Combs - Cold Beer Calling My Name *new peak*
#51. Sleepy Hallow - 2055 (+2) *new peak*
#55. Tai Verdes - A-O-K (+7) *new peak*
#57. Normani feat. Cardi B - Wild Side (+3)
#58. Dua Lipa - Love Again (+5) *new peak*
#62. Kane Brown and blackbear - Memory (+2)
#63. Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave (+6) *new peak*
#64. Camila Cabello - Don't Go Yet (+2)
#70. Elvie Shane - My Boy (=)
#71. Capella Grey - Gyalis (+7) *new peak*
#72. Lee Brice - Memory I Don't Mess With (+2) *new peak*
#73. H.E.R. feat. Chris Brown - Come Through (-2)
#74. Scotty McCreery - You Time (+7) *new peak*
#76. Jordan Davis feat. Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt (+6) *new peak*
#77. Luke Combs - Cold As You (-1)
#87. Kenny Chesney - Knowing You (+6) *new peak*

Notable Olivia News:
favorite crime as held on for 13 weeks, a record for a non-promoted deep cut

Notable Doja News: 
Galactic Overlord Amala now has 6 songs on the charts, the most since the debut week of Planet her

[forg]

Fate with Billboard semi restored lol

[kacpe3]

Fun fact: While they removed Dance 7 from the Hot 100, it still made the Global charts at #171

[Groovy]

Welp, time to accept that Fancy Like is going to be a top 10 hit.

[ZERO]

Aug 23, 2021 16:47:07 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

How many streams did the Aaron Lewis song get during its debut week? Or was that all sales too?

"One" also drew 4 million U.S. streams in the tracking week.

[ZERO]

By the way, we're not done with the shenanigans: like previously mentioned, the song still notched a spot at #171 on the Global 200, above "Chasing After You".

Outside of that, some weirdness regarding Levitating's credit: DaBaby is missing on the website (despite the attached image being the remix's single art), yet present on the top 10 reveal image.

[bbdenney94]

Aug 24, 2021 0:56:40 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

I'm just saying that there is at least a small and genuine group of people that is responsive to such appeals, even if they aren't widely known by the general public.   10,000 or 20,000 is hardly a large number in a nation of more than 300 million people.    

They removed it today.

It’ll be a hilarious piece of chart trivia to look back on. Love to see billionaires take an L.

[phieaglesfan712]

Aug 24, 2021 4:55:42 GMT -5 firefox said:

So it's official. "Dance 7" by Miles Guo is the first song to debut and drop off the Hot 100 in the same week.

It wouldn't be the first time Billboard made a mistake, and it's fitting that it comes on the 6th anniversary of Lana's High by the Beach dropping from 7 to 51 on its debut week: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6664035/omi-cheerleader-no-1-return-hot-100-lana-del-rey-debut

UPDATED Aug. 18, 2:15 p.m.: This story has been updated to reflect new chart data, which was reprocessed by Nielsen Music following the story's original Monday posting. As a result, Lana Del Rey's "High By the Beach" debuts at No. 51 on the Billboard Hot 100 instead of No. 7. On Digital Songs, it debuts at No. 10 instead of No. 1, with 67,000 sold, instead of 248,000, as originally reported. The information below has been updated to reflect corrected data.

[gikem]

Aug 24, 2021 6:44:36 GMT -5 bbdenney94 said:

Aug 24, 2021 0:56:40 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

I'm just saying that there is at least a small and genuine group of people that is responsive to such appeals, even if they aren't widely known by the general public.   10,000 or 20,000 is hardly a large number in a nation of more than 300 million people.    

They removed it today.

It’ll be a hilarious piece of chart trivia to look back on. Love to see billionaires take an L.

It’s certainly up there with the time in the 1970s that a song charted on the Bubbling Under that apparently didn’t exist, but was eventually “discovered” decades later.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Aug 24, 2021 0:34:19 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

I don't have a problem with it because I care a lot more about a #1 hit that is astroturfed into a YE spot than I do about a song that hits #88 or #90 that hardly anyone knows about nor will remember about after it inevitably drops off the charts next week.

That shouldn’t matter. It should be about the principle. If the #88 spot can be bought* and you’re okay with it, who’s to say the same can’t happen with a higher position? If it happens anywhere, you should care because the integrity of the chart includes all 100 positions.

* I don’t know anything about the issue of the song in question so I won’t comment or speculate about whether it’s legitimate or not.

Edit: it wasn’t.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

It looks like Tombstone got the Radio Songs' Hot 100 exception to prevent it from going recurrent since it managed to get a bullet there but didn't in the Hot 100 itself.

[phieaglesfan712]

Aug 24, 2021 8:39:03 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

It looks like Tombstone got the Radio Songs' Hot 100 exception to prevent it from going recurrent since it managed to get a bullet there but didn't in the Hot 100 itself.

I think Tombstone avoiding recurrency is due to the release of the deluxe edition of SoulFly. Although Tombstone is falling on radio, it has been in the Top 40 on AM all week, rising up to #29 on the platform today. I think it will get a 22nd week on the chart, but unless radio picks it back up, it should go recurrent after that.

[earth]

Dance7 kinda bangs if I'm being honest I'm not upset