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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 19, 2021 14:40:11 GMT -5
How hard is it for a single act to debut more than one song in the Hot 100 top 10 in the same week? VERY.
Not really sure why the extra large font/all caps is necessary. We know that Drake is popular, we get it. Some of us just aren't as impressed by his stats or like him as much as you do. We all need to be reminded daily until it’s the first thing we think of when we wake up and the last thing on our mind when we fall asleep. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 19, 2021 14:45:32 GMT -5
After Minutes he has no vocals on any of his songs. He primarily produces songs for other artists but sometimes credits himself as an artist on some of them. Some other producers do that as well. Obviously, he's a producer so he's a musician and an "artist" in that sense but in this instance, I mean as someone who provided vocals for considerable parts of the songs that debuted in the top 10. Yeah but just don't put him in the same category as DJ Khaled who literally isn't an artist Well, he does yell "We The Best Music Another one! DJ Khaled!" |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 15:01:58 GMT -5
How hard is it for a single act to debut more than one song in the Hot 100 top 10 in the same week? VERY.
Not really sure why the extra large font/all caps is necessary. We know that Drake is popular, we get it. Some of us just aren't as impressed by his stats or like him as much as you do. There are 10 other acts in the list apart from Drake but sure, make it about him. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 15:16:15 GMT -5
Not really sure why the extra large font/all caps is necessary. We know that Drake is popular, we get it. Some of us just aren't as impressed by his stats or like him as much as you do. We all need to be reminded daily until it’s the first thing we think of when we wake up and the last thing on our mind when we fall asleep. I post random Hot 100/Billboard 200 stats all the time in threads as I remember them. I also maintain several threads about stats on both charts. I like chart stats. It's not my fault Drake's name pops up in most of them. You can easily ignore those posts/threads if they annoy you so much. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 15:20:38 GMT -5
God bless the day Pulse users stop bitc*ing about Drake, learn to ignore posts about him they don't care for or better yet stop being surprised that one of the most successful and active acts in Hot 100 history gets mentioned from time to time in ding! ding!! ding!!! the Hot 100 threads!!!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 19, 2021 15:31:22 GMT -5
God bless the day Pulse users stop bitc*ing about Drake, learn to ignore posts about him they don't care for or better yet stop being surprised that one of the most successful and active acts in Hot 100 history gets mentioned from time to time in ding! ding!! ding!!! the Hot 100 threads!!! Look I get that you're a Drake fan and sensitive to posts about him, but they aren't all necessarily about Drake, per se. Additionally we've seen focus on BTS, Taylor Swift, and so on. It's the nature of these threads, for better or worse. A lot of these same posts would occur if it were any artist with these stats; for many people, it's not about Drake. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 15:39:10 GMT -5
God bless the day Pulse users stop bitc*ing about Drake, learn to ignore posts about him they don't care for or better yet stop being surprised that one of the most successful and active acts in Hot 100 history gets mentioned from time to time in ding! ding!! ding!!! the Hot 100 threads!!! Look I get that you're a Drake fan and sensitive to posts about him, but they aren't all necessarily about Drake, per se. Additionally we've seen focus on BTS, Taylor Swift, and so on. It's the nature of these threads, for better or worse. A lot of these same posts would occur if it were any artist with these stats; for many people, it's not about Drake. Exactly, so I wonder why whenever Drake gets brought up in any context, even if it's in posts relevant to the chart week or in stats relevant to the Hot 100, someone always has to complain about it. If anyone hates Drake or discussions about him so much then they should either learn to ignore posts about him or block the people who they feel bring up him up too much. It's exhausting seeing people complain about him being brought up. Why shouldn't he be brought up? He's active on the Hot 100 and actually has songs having an impact on said chart right now. There are lots of artists that get discussed in these threads week after week that I don't give a fu*k about. You know what I don't do? Quote the people who bring up those artists just to complain/not add anything meaningful to the discussions. I just ignore the posts and engage with the posts that I actually do care about. It's really not that hard. More of you need to learn to do that. |
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Post by kimberly on Sept 19, 2021 15:44:57 GMT -5
does Drake have a chance to debut multiple songs in the Top 10 this week? what even is the relevance of this discussion to this thread. I don't think we'll see any artist debut 2 or more songs in the Top 10 this week.
debuting multiple songs in the Top 10 is not rare, because big albums on streaming can finally make appearances with non-singles on the regular. in the last 2 years, the death of sales and recalibration of the radio several times has likely contributed to the increased frequency of such occurrences.
that is to say, yes, Drake is very impressive. but this is not a rare feat when it's happened 11 times in the last 18 months. definitely not "big fonts in bold" type of achievement. kind of like singles debuting at #1 becoming commonplace. but guess what? Drake debuted 9 songs in the Top 10 simultaneously when no one else had even held that many spots in the Top 10 before, and that is VERY HARD. in bold and 14pt. belongs in the last week's thread, though.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 19, 2021 15:48:47 GMT -5
God bless the day Pulse users stop bitc*ing about Drake, learn to ignore posts about him they don't care for or better yet stop being surprised that one of the most successful and active acts in Hot 100 history gets mentioned from time to time in ding! ding!! ding!!! the Hot 100 threads!!! I mean, you could ignore the bitching posts too. I’m sure you associate me as being some Drake-H8er yet I’ve come to the defence of his success on the Hot 100 in here a few times over the last few weeks (and a few times off Pulse too oddly enough) because people have an odd misunderstanding of what the charts represent - yet I’ve still been accused of trying to diminish his success because I choose to look at things in a large-scale way rather than cite him as the greatest artist of all time. We’re not all out to get him and we could probably all chill a bit. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 19, 2021 15:48:54 GMT -5
The more than one debut in the top 10 thing looks like it has become pretty common with big album releases actually Not really. Only 11 acts have debuted at least 2 songs in the top 10 simultaneously (if you take out DJ Khaled and Metro Boomin who technically aren't artists), it becomes 9 acts. Of those 9 names, Drake makes an appearance 6 times, J. Cole makes an appearance twice while Ed Sheeran, Travis Scott, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Lil Uzi Vert, Juice WRLD, Taylor Swift, 21 Savage and Kanye West make an appearance once. If you break it down even further, 3 of Drake's appearances aren't from album bombs. They're from him releasing 2/3 singles at the same time. Same goes for Ed Sheeran's lone appearance. Lastly, out of the 13 entries that are a result of album bombs (counting the entries for 21 Savage/Metro Boomin as 1 since both songs count for both of them and they're off a joint album), 5 entries managed to debut 2 songs in the top 10 simultaneously, 3 entries managed to debut 3 songs in the top 10 simultaneously while 4 entries managed to debut 4 songs in the top 10 simultaneously. The whole gist of all of this is that no, even for big album releases, it's not easy to debut at least 2 songs in the top 10 simultaneously. There are a lot of massive albums released from 2017-now that didn't make the list. That alone shows how hard it is to pull off. I can see why people might get the impression that your posts are about Drake though. My comment to your post was about disagreeing with how rare having multiple debuts are these days - in that it is increasingly common (nothing to do with Drake in my post) Your response to me included several Drake references. I left it there because I assumed your point was that while it is "very hard" for certain artists, it is not hard for Drake and heck some of those on your list aren't even artists so that makes Drake stand out more. You are a Drake fan, I assumed the intent, like others was to highlight Drake I moved on but suggest not taking it personally |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 15:59:14 GMT -5
Not really. Only 11 acts have debuted at least 2 songs in the top 10 simultaneously (if you take out DJ Khaled and Metro Boomin who technically aren't artists), it becomes 9 acts. Of those 9 names, Drake makes an appearance 6 times, J. Cole makes an appearance twice while Ed Sheeran, Travis Scott, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Lil Uzi Vert, Juice WRLD, Taylor Swift, 21 Savage and Kanye West make an appearance once. If you break it down even further, 3 of Drake's appearances aren't from album bombs. They're from him releasing 2/3 singles at the same time. Same goes for Ed Sheeran's lone appearance. Lastly, out of the 13 entries that are a result of album bombs (counting the entries for 21 Savage/Metro Boomin as 1 since both songs count for both of them and they're off a joint album), 5 entries managed to debut 2 songs in the top 10 simultaneously, 3 entries managed to debut 3 songs in the top 10 simultaneously while 4 entries managed to debut 4 songs in the top 10 simultaneously. The whole gist of all of this is that no, even for big album releases, it's not easy to debut at least 2 songs in the top 10 simultaneously. There are a lot of massive albums released from 2017-now that didn't make the list. That alone shows how hard it is to pull off. I can see why people might get the impression that your posts are about Drake though. My comment to your post was about disagreeing with how rare having multiple debuts are these days - in that it is increasingly common (nothing to do with Drake in my post) Your response to me included several Drake references. I left it there because I assumed your point was that while it is "very hard" for certain artists, it is not hard for Drake and heck some of those on your list aren't even artists so that makes Drake stand out more. You are a Drake fan, I assumed the intent, like others was to highlight Drake I moved on but suggest not taking it personally That's a fair enough assumption. You're wrong, though. I was going through the Wikipedia page for Hot 100 achievements looking for some random stat and I stumbled on Ed Sheeran being the first act to debut 2 songs in the top 10. The only other act mentioned was Drake and I knew that wasn't correct so I did a quick search to see all the acts who had actually done that (and was surprised that some names who I thought would make the list didn't). When I was done, I had a list (in all honestly, I was more impressed that most of the names in the list were hip-hop acts [I'm a huge hip-hop fan as you've probably guessed]) and so I decided to share the list. I broke down the list the way I did in my response to you to specify that not all the entries in the list were from album bombs (some were from multiple singles released at once) and so that made it even more rare for artists to manage 2 simultaneous top 10 debuts with albums, big release or not. That's really all that was about. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 16:05:12 GMT -5
God bless the day Pulse users stop bitc*ing about Drake, learn to ignore posts about him they don't care for or better yet stop being surprised that one of the most successful and active acts in Hot 100 history gets mentioned from time to time in ding! ding!! ding!!! the Hot 100 threads!!! I mean, you could ignore the bitching posts too. I’m sure you associate me as being some Drake-H8er yet I’ve come to the defence of his success on the Hot 100 in here a few times over the last few weeks (and a few times off Pulse too oddly enough) because people have an odd misunderstanding of what the charts represent - yet I’ve still been accused of trying to diminish his success because I choose to look at things in a large-scale way rather than cite him as the greatest artist of all time. We’re not all out to get him and we could probably all chill a bit. When have I ever called Drake the greatest artist of all time? That's a conclusion you came to all by yourself. I don't mind that people don't like him or don't like discussions about him (I feel the same way about a couple of artists myself). I'm just tired of the complaining whenever his name gets mentioned or people assuming I'm bragging on him whenever I post any stat and his name happens to make the list. I've always posted random stats, whether that's in the weekly Hot 100 threads or in any of the several other threads I update every week. It's really not that deep but some of you don't seem to get that for some reason. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 16:13:06 GMT -5
does Drake have a chance to debut multiple songs in the Top 10 this week? what even is the relevance of this discussion to this thread. I don't think we'll see any artist debut 2 or more songs in the Top 10 this week. debuting multiple songs in the Top 10 is not rare, because big albums on streaming can finally make appearances with non-singles on the regular. in the last 2 years, the death of sales and recalibration of the radio several times has likely contributed to the increased frequency of such occurrences. that is to say, yes, Drake is very impressive. but this is not a rare feat when it's happened 11 times in the last 18 months. definitely not "big fonts in bold" type of achievement. kind of like singles debuting at #1 becoming commonplace. but guess what? Drake debuted 9 songs in the Top 10 simultaneously when no one else had even held that many spots in the Top 10 before, and that is VERY HARD. in bold and 14pt. belongs in the last week's thread, though. It wouldn't have mattered when I posted this stat and you don't care that it got posted now. You care that Drake is currently being discussed and that's really all there is to it. Even in the thread for the week where he scored the 9 top 10 debuts, discussing him in that thread had people bitc*ing and moaning so there's really no good time to mention Drake's name on this forum. You'll always be met with one complaint or the other. Sorry for daring to post a stat with Drake's name in it, y'all. Back to the regularly scheduled programming. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 19, 2021 16:15:33 GMT -5
What is more noticeable to readers of this forum?
A random stat that includes Drake
or a random stat that includes Drake
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Post by lazer on Sept 19, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -5
Suddenly one becomes Meg when Drake drops something and some people didn't like it.
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Post by divasummer on Sept 19, 2021 17:10:37 GMT -5
LoL at this turning into a Drake thread.
If he sneezed on 3 num.1 songs and was the first artist to do so would that find become an important chart fact????
The stanning is for real.
Watch out BTS! Lol
Now I know what my mother was talking about when I started stanning Whitney Houston and she looked at me one day and said “I can’t stand Whitney Houston anymore”.
(She liked her prior) lol
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Post by wavey. on Sept 19, 2021 17:17:08 GMT -5
Drake.
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Post by Caviar on Sept 19, 2021 17:25:59 GMT -5
Drake is the GOAT!
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Post by iHype. on Sept 19, 2021 20:10:51 GMT -5
I like Drake.
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Post by kindofbiased on Sept 19, 2021 20:13:51 GMT -5
one time i saw a "artists first singles vs biggest hits" video that said drake's first hit was Over instead of Best I Ever Had and it made me irrationally annoyed
also i'd embrace the drake discussions for this week considering what group is dropping a song next week (even if it's a feature)
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Post by firefox on Sept 19, 2021 21:26:36 GMT -5
As of this writing, Drake has been mentioned 125 times in this thread.
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Post by nathanalbright on Sept 19, 2021 22:28:58 GMT -5
It will be far higher than that by the time this chart thread is done.
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Post by drakefanovo on Sept 19, 2021 23:26:52 GMT -5
Drake
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 19, 2021 23:27:45 GMT -5
Current Positions (8 hours later):#9 (-2). Industry Baby (with Jack Harlow) #15 (-1). That's What I Want #22 (-3). Scoop (feat. Doja Cat) #23 (-3). Dolla Sign Slime (feat. Megan Thee Stallion) #30 (-8). Dead Right Now #35 (-4). Montero (Call Me By Your Name) #39 (-6). One of Me (feat. Elton John) #49 (-10). Lost in the Citadel #50 (-8). Tales of Dominica #53 (-9). The Art of Realization #61 (-7). Sun Goes Down #63 (-8). Don't Want It #65 (-6). Am I Dreaming (feat. Miley Cyrus) #67 (-5). Void #82 (-14). Life After Salem
The album remains at #2 on US Apple Music. #8 (+1). Industry Baby (with Jack Harlow) #15 (=). That's What I Want #26 (-3). Dolla Sign Slime (feat. Megan Thee Stallion)
#27 (-5). Scoop (feat. Doja Cat) #33 (+2). Montero (Call Me By Your Name)
#40 (-10). Dead Right Now #53 (-14). One of Me (feat. Elton John)
#58 (-8). Tales of Dominica #59 (-10). Lost in the Citadel #68 (-15). The Art of Realization #71 (-10). Sun Goes Down #75 (-12). Don't Want It #82 (-17). Am I Dreaming (feat. Miley Cyrus) #87 (-20). Void #99 (-17). Life After Salem
The album remains at #2 on US Apple Music. #7 (+1). Industry Baby (with Jack Harlow) #15 (=). That's What I Want #29 (-3). Dolla Sign Slime (feat. Megan Thee Stallion) #30 (-3). Scoop (feat. Doja Cat) #33 (=). Montero (Call Me By Your Name) #44 (-4). Dead Right Now #58 (-5). One of Me (feat. Elton John) #60 (-2). Tales of Dominica #62 (-3). Lost in the Citadel #77 (-6). Sun Goes Down #79 (-11). The Art of Realization #80 (-5). Don't Want It #88 (-6). Am I Dreaming (feat. Miley Cyrus) #95 (-8). Void #108 (-9). Life After Salem
The album remains at #2 on US Apple Music.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Sept 20, 2021 8:19:34 GMT -5
lol at today's radio update
22(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 37.40 (+1.10)
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 20, 2021 8:21:04 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/09/20
1(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 96.73(+2.10)
2(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 95.71(+1.70)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 87.61(+1.38)
4(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 81.07(+0.94)
5(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 72.14(+0.81)
6(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 57.23(+1.13)
7(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 56.82(-0.70)
8(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 56.07(+0.66)
9(+1) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 54.62(+2.09)
10(-1) Doja Cat & The Weeknd - You Right 54.39(+0.50) +
11(+1) The Weeknd - Take My Breath 52.95(+2.04) +
16(=) Måneskin - Beggin 43.54(+2.16)
17(=) Scotty McCreery - You Time 41.38(+1.69) 19(+1) Jameson Rodgers - Cold Beer Calling...f/L. Combs 39.06(+1.64)
28(+7) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 31.82(+1.85)
39(+4) Drake - Way 2 Sexy (feat. Future & Young Thug) 28.36(+2.85)
49(+9) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 24.85(+2.38)
63(+8) Doja Cat - Need To Know 22.14(+2.36)
-(-) Ozuna - La Funka 10.69(+1.24)
-(-) Kali - Mmm Mmm f/Atl Jacob 2.00(+1.23) +
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Sept 20, 2021 8:51:35 GMT -5
And why was Miley’s credit added back on Without You?
31(+2) The Kid Laroi - Without You with Miley Cyrus 31.23 (+0.69)
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Post by Groovy on Sept 20, 2021 9:04:56 GMT -5
Does anyone know why a lot of songs got big decreases yesterday.
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Post by Choco on Sept 20, 2021 9:22:22 GMT -5
Tea was spilled on the last two pages.  Not looking forward to another BTS #1 but it is what it is. |
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Post by s9983 on Sept 20, 2021 9:30:20 GMT -5
Tea was spilled on the last two pages. Not looking forward to another BTS #1 but it is what it is. This is getting a little ridiculous now. Billboard is literally a joke bc they technically shouldn't have a single one if the rules were fair. Wondering when they're gonna snap back to reality |
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