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Post by iamsorare on Nov 1, 2021 18:31:31 GMT -5
NTK never underperformed... it was YR that always looked weak. It's radio run has given it a long life tho. But tbh if they had gone from KMM to NTK diectly, Woman would have probably reached top 10 by now too. you right is a hit. It's still top 20 on hot 100 and it's still rising on pop radio..and it's not only radio cause it went viral on tiktok now and it had big increase on streaming too
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Post by Choco on Nov 1, 2021 18:57:42 GMT -5
NTK never underperformed... it was YR that always looked weak. It's radio run has given it a long life tho. But tbh if they had gone from KMM to NTK diectly, Woman would have probably reached top 10 by now too. you right is a hit. It's still top 20 on hot 100 and it's still rising on pop radio..and it's not only radio cause it went viral on tiktok now and it had big increase on streaming too Yeah. But for a while there it was lagging well below Kiss Me More, Need to Know, Ain't Shit and even Woman and I think Get Into It on streaming. It's a hit but I do think something else would have done even better. Moot point tho. Her album is packed full of hits and she's rising to superstardom faster than any other female this year not named Olivia Rodrigo.
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Nov 1, 2021 19:05:34 GMT -5
Predictions for the trajectory of the current top 10 songs:
1. Easy On Me - Keeps dropping for a few weeks, stabilizes around 5th place for a while, MAYBE longevity? 2. Stay - Will have a VERY slow descent, 25+ weeks in t10 for sure 3. Industry Baby - Medium speed descent, maybe 25+ weeks t10 4. Fancy Like - This is gonna fall HARD then stabilize around 20th exclusively b/c of country fans 5. Bad Habits - About to start dropping rather quickly 6. Way 2 Sexy - Watch it go 7-8-9-10 lol 7. Shivers - Like I said before, I see this peaking around 5th and having a long stay due to radio 8. Good 4 U - Will continue its gracefully slow decline 9. Need To Know - Top 3 within a couple months, big hit 10. Levitating - It doesn't look like we're getting a lot of new songs in the t10 for a while, so this'll probably make it to week 45 or so
I didn't think this would fit in the predictions thread b/c those seem to be primarily for predicting the next week's chart
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Post by golfradio on Nov 1, 2021 21:34:53 GMT -5
Adele's 'Easy on Me' Rules Hot 100 for Second Week, Doja Cat's 'Need to Know' Hits Top 10 By Gary Trust 11/1/2021 Adele's "Easy on Me" rules the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart for a second week. Plus, Doja Cat's "Need to Know" rises from No. 11 to No. 9 on the Hot 100, becoming her fourth top 10 entry. The Hot 100 blends all-genre U.S. streaming (official audio and official video), radio airplay, and sales data. All charts (dated Nov. 6) will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Nov. 2). For all chart news, you can follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram. "Easy on Me," released at 7 p.m. ET Oct. 14 on Columbia Records, drew 61.5 million radio airplay audience impressions (down 4%) and 31.8 million U.S. streams (down 41%) and sold 23,100 downloads (down 69%) in the Oct. 22-28 tracking week, according to MRC Data. The ballad leads the Streaming Songs chart for a second week; drops to No. 3 after a week atop Digital Song Sales; and keeps at its No. 4 best on Radio Songs (down in audience in the Oct. 22-28 tracking frame, after multiple chains gave it concentrated play Oct. 14-15, helping lead to its record arrival on the airplay ranking). Adele's 'Easy on Me' Joins Elite List of Biggest Hot 100 No. 1s of Last 30 Years A week earlier, the song vaulted 68-1 on the Oct. 30-dated Hot 100, following its first full week of tracking. Notably, all five of Adele's Hot 100 No. 1s have led for multiple weeks, as "Easy on Me" follows "Rolling in the Deep" (seven, 2011), "Someone Like You" (five, 2011), "Set Fire to the Rain" (two, 2012) and "Hello" (10, 2015-16). Adele spends her 26th cumulative week atop the chart (thus, the equivalent of six total months at the summit). Dating to her first week at No. 1 (May 21, 2011), Adele ties Rihanna for the most weeks atop the chart among women in that span; overall, they trail only Drake (52) and Justin Bieber (32). The Kid LAROI and Bieber's "Stay" keeps at No. 2 on the Hot 100, after seven weeks at No. 1, as it rules Radio Songs for a seventh week (90.8 million, up 1%). "Stay" concurrently crowns the Pop Airplay chart for a 10th week, becoming just the 15th song to reign for double-digit weeks since the survey began in October 1992, among exactly 400 total toppers. It's the first title to achieve the feat since Post Malone's "Circles" (10 weeks, November 2019-February 2020). Lil Nas X and Jack Harlow's "Industry Baby" repeats at No. 3 on the Hot 100, two weeks after it led, as it logs a 10th week atop both the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts, which use the same multi-metric methodology as the Hot 100. Walker Hayes' "Fancy Like" is steady at No. 4 on the Hot 100, after reaching No. 3, as (like whipped cream atop an Applebee's Oreo Shake) it leads the multi-metric Hot Country Songs chart for the 16th week. Ed Sheeran's "Bad Habits" is stationary at No. 5 on the Hot 100, after hitting No. 2; Drake's "Way 2 Sexy," featuring Future and Young Thug, holds at No. 6, following its No. 1 entrance in September; Sheeran's "Shivers" pushes 9-7 for a new high; and Olivia Rodrigo's "Good 4 U" drops 7-8, after it dominated in its debut week in May. Doja Cat's "Need to Know" ascends to the Hot 100's top 10, rising 11-9. The track holds at No. 10 on Streaming Songs (13.2 million, down 2%), climbs 14-12 on Radio Songs (44.1 million, up 14%), and stays at No. 35 on Digital Song Sales (2,600, up 1%). Doja Cat collects her fourth Hot 100 top 10, after "Say So," featuring Nicki Minaj, ruled for a week in May 2020; Ariana Grande's "34+35," featuring Doja Cat and Megan Thee Stallion," reached No. 2 in January; and "Kiss Me More," featuring SZA, hit No. 3 this July. Her two latest top 10s are from her album Planet Her, which debuted as her second top 10 on the Billboard 200 (at its No. 2 peak) in July; the set has spent its first 18 weeks on the chart in the top 10, jumping 7-3 on the latest list. Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Dua Lipa's "Levitating" dips 8-10, after hitting No. 2. It adds its 41st week in the top 10, the second-longest such run in the chart's history. The Weeknd's "Blinding Lights" leads with 57 weeks in the top 10 (February 2020-April 2021). Again, for all chart news, you can follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram and all charts (dated Nov. 6), including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh on Billboard.com tomorrow (Nov. 2).
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Post by imbondz on Nov 1, 2021 22:05:06 GMT -5
Is Levitating guaranteed to be the #1 song of the year?
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Post by felipe on Nov 1, 2021 22:30:06 GMT -5
Is Levitating guaranteed to be the #1 song of the year? What is possibly challenging it? Good 4 U?
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Post by kimberly on Nov 1, 2021 22:32:36 GMT -5
Is Levitating guaranteed to be the #1 song of the year? yes it's been pretty much locked since July, and is only getting further ahead of "Save Your Tears," "Blinding Lights," "Mood," and "Leave the Door Open" each week. "good 4 u" is likely to pass "LTDO" but it's definitely not catching up to "Levitating" at this pace.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 1, 2021 22:38:54 GMT -5
Elton's album boosts Cold Heart into the Top 15:
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 2, 2021 1:38:07 GMT -5
10. Levitating - It doesn't look like we're getting a lot of new songs in the t10 for a while, so this'll probably make it to week 45 or so It's already #10 on a super slow week. So 42 or 43 weeks max.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 2, 2021 4:32:10 GMT -5
Notable Gains: #35. NEIKED x Mae Muller x Polo G - Better Days (+22) #64. Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots (+10) #64. Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't (+11) #67. Michael Ray - Whiskey And Rain (+14) #68. Kane Brown - One Mississippi (+12) #85. Lady A - Like a Lady (+14)
Notable Losses: #45. Young Thug with Drake and Travis Scott - Bubbly (-25) #54. Elvie Shane - My Boy (-17) #62. Lil Durk - Pissed Me Off (-23)
Re-entries: #97. Doja Cat - Ain't Shit #98. Oliver Tree - Life Goes On #99. H.E.R. feat. Chris Brown - Come Through #100. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Nevada
Notable Dropouts: deja vu (29 weeks) Leave Before You Love Me (22 weeks) Late at Night (20 weeks) Yonaguni (20 weeks) You Time (12 weeks)
Biggest Gain in Sales: Let's Go Brandon (Loza Alexander) Biggest Gain in Streaming: Better Days Biggest Gain in Airplay: Cold Heart (PNAU Remix)
Gained in Points: #7. Ed Sheeran - Shivers (+2) *new peak* #9. Doja Cat - Need to Know (+2) *new peak* #11. WizKid feat. Justin Bieber and Tems - Essence (+1) #13. Glass Animals - Heat Waves (+1) #14. Måneskin - Beggin' (+1) *new peak* #15. Elton John and Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) (+6) *new peak* #16. Doja Cat and The Weeknd - You Right (=) #18. Jason Aldean and Carrie Underwood - If I Didn't Have You (+5) #19. Olivia Rodrigo - traitor (+3) #23. THE ANXIETY: WILLOW and Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot (+9) *new peak* #29. Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT (-1) #30. Farruko - Pepas (-1) #31. CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) (=) #33. Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever (-3) #34. MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha (-1) #36. Jordan Davis feat. Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt (-2) #37. Justin Bieber - Ghost (+1) #38. Loza Alexander - Let's Go Brandon (+7) *new peak* #39. Luke Combs - Cold As You (+2) *new peak* #41. Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave (-1) #43. Dustin Lynch feat. Lauren Alaina or MacKenzie Porter - Thinking 'Bout You (+8) *new peak* #46. Normani feat. Cardi B - Wild Side (+1) #50. Baby Keem feat. Kendrick Lamar - family ties (+2) #56. Blxst and Tyga feat. Ty Dolla $ign - Chosen (+7) *new peak* #58. Kenny Chesney - Knowing You (+6) *new peak* #70. Eslabon Armado and DannyLux - Jugaste y Sufrí (+7) #74. Jon Pardi - Tequila Little Time (+9) *new peak* #77. 42 Dugg feat. Future - Maybach (+8) #80. Kanye West feat. Travis Scott and Baby Keem - Praise God (+9) #82. Jimmie Allen and Brad Paisley - Freedom Was a Highway (+2) *new peak* #83. Giveon - For Tonight (+5) *new peak* #92. Grupo Firme - Ya Superame (=) #93. Jonas Brothers - Who's In Your Head (+3) *new peak*
I don't know what's worse: the fact we have two stupid anti-vaxx songs on the charts in the Top 40 (...just out of very morbid curiosity: how many anti-vax songs have charted this year?) or the fact Life Goes On is back
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 2, 2021 5:04:02 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10. 41 Levitating 23 good 4 u 17 Bad Habits 16 Stay 13 Industry Baby 8 Fancy Like 8 Way 2 Sexy 3 Shivers 1 Need to Know
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 2, 2021 5:05:27 GMT -5
(Billboard apparently doesn't count 34+35) They are inconsistent and confused. Mess. Thankfully, they corrected themselves.
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Post by iamsorare on Nov 2, 2021 5:34:08 GMT -5
They are inconsistent and confused. Mess. Thankfully, they corrected themselves. I hate that they made 'say so' a collab song just because nicki minaj remix pushed it to #1. It was a solo hit... Need to know doesn't need a remix with another rapper.. it needs to be her first legit solo top 10 hit
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Post by spiritboy on Nov 2, 2021 7:11:25 GMT -5
Who would've believed if someone said Elton would have a smash hit single in 2021? A well deserved success for a brilliant song.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 2, 2021 7:27:28 GMT -5
Thankfully, they corrected themselves. I hate that they made 'say so' a collab song just because nicki minaj remix push it to #1. It was a solo hit... Need to know doesn't need a remix with another rapper.. it needs to be her first legit solo top 10 hit I don't consider Say So to be a collab, the same way I don't view Savage Love as a BTS song or Perfect as a duet. Most reasonable people remember the original versions of these songs today over the versions of these songs that took it to #1 and was popular for a short period of time. Heck, Perfect was still going to #1 even if Beyonce wasn't on it. It's only the crazy fanbases of Nicki, BTS, and Beyonce that care so much about the credit.
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Post by korbel16 on Nov 2, 2021 7:38:51 GMT -5
Damn really wished drivers license had the same legs as Good 4 U’s chart run (besides being blocked for 9 weeks by butter).
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Post by firefox on Nov 2, 2021 7:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 2, 2021 7:50:12 GMT -5
Damn really wished drivers license had the same legs as Good 4 U’s chart run (besides being blocked for 9 weeks by butter). G4u only really lost 7 weeks to Butter. By the time we got to the 8th and 9th weeks, people forget that G4u was on the decline and Stay was released. G4u was never really the #1 song, at least in my opinion, at any point after Stay's release.
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Post by firefox on Nov 2, 2021 7:51:19 GMT -5
"If I Didn't Love You" is holding very well. I hoped that it will crack the top 10 soon. Also, Carrie Underwood's last song to reach the top 10 was her duet with Randy Travis' 1988 song "I Told You So", peaked at #9 in 2009.
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Post by joshtheking on Nov 2, 2021 8:32:15 GMT -5
I'm surprised Wild Side has lasted this long. Good for Normani
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Post by Darkest Hour on Nov 2, 2021 9:01:18 GMT -5
"If I Didn't Love You" is holding very well. I hoped that it will crack the top 10 soon. It's already peaked at country radio. The only way this might hit a new peak is Jason Aldean's album release on November 12th.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 2, 2021 9:47:28 GMT -5
This chart is so damn dumb. What was the formula that was logical in their head?? Billboard 200: Drake | | | | Adele | | | Certified Lover Boy | #1 | 74,000 | | 25 | #18 | 21,000 | Scorpion | #76 | 11,000 | | 21 | #36 | 16,000 | Take Care | #89 | 11,000 | | 19 | #186 | 7,000 | Views | #111 | 9,000 | | | | | Nothing Was the Same | #151 | 8,000 | | | | | More Life | #160 | 8,000 | | | | | | | 121,000 units | | | | 44,000 units |
Hot 100: Drake | | Points | Share of Points | | Adele | | Points | Share of Points | Way 2 Sexy | #6 | 198 | 70% | | Easy On Me | #1 | 383 | 100% | Knife Talk | #22 | 120 | 70% | | | | | | Girls Want Girls | #26 | 111 | 70% | | | | | | Bubbly | #45 | 76 | 15% | | | | | | Fair Trade | #52 | 68 | 70% | | | | | | No Friends In The Industry | #91 | 42 | 100% | | | | | | In the Bible | #94 | 40 | 70% | | | | | | | | | 429.3 points | | | | | 383 points |
Drake was 3x bigger on Billboard 200 and bigger on Hot 100 this week.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 2, 2021 10:14:05 GMT -5
It's been a known thing that Billboard's Artist 100 chart, as well as the discontinued Social 50 Chart and the new Hot Trending Songs Chart, are all utterly meaningless and useless.
The Artist 100 Chart uses a formula that prioritizes pure sales over everything else. Adele is ranked higher than Drake this week simply because she sold more pure sale units than Drake. Drake could have occupied the entire Billboard 200 top 10 with strictly streaming units and it wouldn't have mattered. As long as Adele sold more pure sale units, the #1 spot would have still gone to her. Go figure.
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Post by algo on Nov 2, 2021 10:15:52 GMT -5
never forget the week olivia rodrigo had 11 songs charting, most in the top 50, and the #2 album of the week and still wasn't considered the biggest artist of that week
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 2, 2021 10:18:20 GMT -5
To be fair, though, it didn’t feel like Drake was the biggest artist this week. It felt to me like either Adele or Elton was the biggest artist this week, but then again, not much really happened.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 2, 2021 10:27:29 GMT -5
It kind of gives me MKTO - “Classic” but make it 90s vibes. The duo, the one hit wonder, the song subject. Natural Selection technically weren't one hit wonders though...follow-up single "Hearts Don't Think (They Feel)!" reached number 28 in early '92. "Do Anything" was a JAM though. Wish it wasn't so forgotten. Ahh, a complete label manufactured 'top 40 hit'. The week it peaked #28. Radio - #36 Sales - N/A top 75 (even "Do Anything" was still charting at #70, 5 months after peak) Also the fact Radio Songs chart only included 2 formats at the time in 1992, Pop/Rhythmic, which would've been the only two formats to play the song. Had all formats been included it would've prob missed top 50 at radio. So in reality, it missed the top 50 at radio & sales. But alas, moderate radio push from only 2 formats caused it to be a top 40 hit. Meanwhile had it been 1-2 years earlier, pre-Soundscan, with the ultra fast inflated rotation of the charts, removing hit singles off playlists/sales reporting directly after they peaked, Radio chart only comprised of 1 format, it probably would've snuck up to being a "top 20" or even "top 10" hit due to falsely charting even higher on radio/sales charts. Interesting to see how easy it was to just inflate songs at that point compared to years following post-Soundscan. This song would've been made a top 20 hit at the least in 1990 pre-Soundscan, yet probably missed top 50 on a chart in 1999 with post-Soundscan tracking of sales/all radio formats.
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Post by Choco on Nov 2, 2021 10:27:36 GMT -5
Any Billboard chart created in the last decade or so is meaningless. None of them that I recall function well (Social, the new one, the Artist 100...)
Not sure if Streaming Songs is that recent but it's the only one that gives any sort of decent data.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Nov 2, 2021 10:50:58 GMT -5
"If I Didn't Love You" is holding very well. I hoped that it will crack the top 10 soon. Also, Carrie Underwood's last song to reach the top 10 was her duet with Randy Travis' 1988 song "I Told You So", peaked at #9 in 2009. It's unlikely though it will probably get a new peak. They have the CMAs coming up in just over a week, and you can never count out Carrie when it comes to pure sales boosts from live performances.
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Post by Gary on Nov 2, 2021 11:46:35 GMT -5
Anyone know the sales numbers for Let's Go Brandon?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 2, 2021 12:03:01 GMT -5
In regards to newer Billboard charts, there are a lot of problems with most of them but I actually quite like the Global 200 and I like them combining alt and rock into one so we dont have another Imagine Dragons/Panic scenario where one song is #1 for more than a year.
In regards to Global there are some glaring omissions in terms foreign streaming services that aren't integrated (*cough* Melon *cough*) but for the most part I think it's a good representation of the top Global songs
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